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Jays Notes: Bichette, Garcia, Votto

By Anthony Franco | July 19, 2024 at 11:06pm CDT

Bo Bichette exited tonight’s game after six innings. The Blue Jays shortstop came up limping out of the batter’s box after hitting a line drive to right field. Toronto announced that Bichette suffered a right calf injury. Manager John Schneider said postgame that he was headed for an MRI (link via Keegan Matheson of MLB.com).

A strain in the same calf sent Bichette to the injured list last month. The 26-year-old infielder returned after a minimal stint. Tonight’s evident setback could send him back to the shelf. Even a minimal IL stay would keep him out through the July 30 trade deadline.

With the Jays plummeting out of playoff contention, Bichette and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. have been the subject of some trade speculation. GM Ross Atkins shot down the chance of moving either player last month, but the Jays have fallen more definitely from the postseason fringe since then. Mark Feinsand of MLB.com reported last week that Toronto was still more focused on moving impending free agents. Bichette is under contract for $16.5MM next season and will hit free agency after the ’25 campaign.

This summer would be an inopportune time to deal Bichette even if the Jays listen to offers on more controllable players. This has been by far the most challenging season of his career. He’s hitting .222/.275/.320 over 331 trips to the plate. Bichette has four longballs after reaching the 20-homer threshold in three consecutive seasons. He might now be headed for his second IL stint in as many months.

In more positive injury news, the Jays welcomed Yimi García back from the 15-day injured list before today’s game. The veteran reliever missed a month with ulnar neuritis in his elbow. García is one of six impending free agents on the Toronto roster and has a strong chance to move before the deadline. The right-hander owns a 2.57 ERA through 28 innings. García is running a personal-best 34.6% strikeout rate while generating swinging strikes on 13.4% of his offerings. He’s playing on a $6MM salary and should be a target for contenders seeking a setup option.

Justin Turner is another of the rentals whom the Jays could look to move this month. Dealing Turner would open the designated hitter spot. That’d theoretically open an opportunity for Joey Votto. Unfortunately, the former MVP’s homecoming with the Jays has been sidetracked by injuries. Votto hurt his right ankle during Spring Training and has spent the season on the Triple-A injured list. He was set to begin his stint for Triple-A Buffalo tonight before tweaking his ankle during pre-game work (relayed on X by Kaitlyn McGrath of the Athletic). He’ll be reevaluated tomorrow.

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52 Comments

  1. Mtog

    1 year ago

    For the love of god please fire Atkins already!

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    • MagRupe

      1 year ago

      Yes. Because we all know GM’s control when players get hurt.

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      • bigdaddyt

        1 year ago

        Sure doesn’t but you know what he controls one of the worst offences in the league, worst bullpen and bottom 5 farm teams. Looks like Ross doesn’t do much of anything but hand out a lot $$$$$

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        • CleaverGreene

          1 year ago

          That Springer contract was atrocious.

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        • MagRupe

          11 months ago

          WHAT? It’s easy to evaluate contracts in hindsight.. At the time, no one thought springer’s contract was an overpay and it was seen as a coup that we even got him.

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      • Mtog

        1 year ago

        If you think their struggles are because they’re hurt, you’re dreaming. This team was not set up for success from the start. Granted, injuries have taken away a couple wins, but they would still be bottom 10 team.
        No depth in AAA is a big reason for the lack of wins and that is on a GM.

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        • MagRupe

          11 months ago

          The article was on Bichette’s injury.

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      • its_happening

        1 year ago

        GMs control an offseason where they forgot they needed more hitting. They also have control over hiring better scouts and drafting.

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  2. Blackpink in the area

    1 year ago

    Bichette is certainly a guy that could have more trade value a year from now. But if he has a sub 700 OPS at this time next year he’s going to have no trade value at all.

    Toronto should blow it all up. They need the prospects and they have too many soon to be free agents.

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      More value in his walk year? That’s up for debate.

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      • Blackpink in the area

        1 year ago

        He currently has a 600 OPS. His career OPS is 800. If he has an 800 OPS next year at this time he’s probably more valuable than if he has a 600 OPS today unless you really really believe he will bounce back.

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        • its_happening

          1 year ago

          Bo is in the final year before free agency in 2025. That is a big deal. Unless Bo has a 900+ OPS the Jays will not have leverage.

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        • Blackpink in the area

          1 year ago

          He also makes 17 million in 2025 which is a lot to pay for a guy with a 600 OPS who is performing like a barely above replacement level player.

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        • merrilld

          1 year ago

          It’s not my opinion. I am just reporting what I read in the Athletic by a guy who talks to GMs.

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    • merrilld

      1 year ago

      I have read that rival GMs value him the same even with the down year. I think it was Bowden in The Athletic.

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  3. dano62

    1 year ago

    I’d say Bichette is gone by the winter meetings; Kikuchi Jansen & Y Garcia could bring some greatly needed prospects to the system now.

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  4. JayRyder

    1 year ago

    Votto HOFer ? I don’t think so. All the stats say yes to a degree. But playing in one of the livest ballparks of that era. Helping his power numbers. And walking a ton I don’t think necessitate the freaking Hall Of Fame. He was born that during his playing career. Other than lasting a long time.

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    • 14thor

      1 year ago

      Jay Do you hear yourself?

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    • danumd87 2

      1 year ago

      What language was that?

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    • mp9

      1 year ago

      Clearly your not a baseball guy i supposed your’e a Troll.

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      Jay I agree with you 100% that Votto shouldn’t touch the Hall of Fame. He’s the shining of example of why the defense is willing to walk a player knowing it won’t hurt them. Thus, walks are overvalued by today’s metrics.

      However, because of today’s metrics and the slow destruction of the game of baseball, Joey Votto is now a Hall of Famer. Based on what is considered “valuable”, his walking and patience plus the ballparks and inferior talent within that NL Central has pushed Votto’s numbers strong enough to reach Cooperstown.

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    • MVottoP76

      1 year ago

      Votto IS a HOFer period

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      • its_happening

        1 year ago

        Yes. He will be.

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  5. 14thor

    1 year ago

    Joey Votto will replace Justin Turner as the oldest position player in the league.

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  6. Waldo29

    1 year ago

    Quick poll: Who else agrees with me that Votto is a Hall of Famer?

    (Yes – I know the comment section may devolve into an annoying argument but hey, let’s give it a shot lol)

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    • Waldo29

      1 year ago

      If you vote yes, like this comment.

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      • Waldo29

        1 year ago

        If you vote no, like this comment.

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      • Bucket Number Six

        1 year ago

        So is Goldy.

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    • rmullig2

      1 year ago

      Career WAR of 64.5 and OPS of .920, I would say yes but the process is so screwed up now.

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    • wayler

      1 year ago

      He’s from Toronto — so yes for sure. Does that count?

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      It’s not that simple. Votto is a Hall of Famer based on today’s standards and the recent inductees. Should he be? No. It would be shocking if he’s not in on the first ballot.

      Reply
  7. CC Ryder

    1 year ago

    Looking at OBP alone I think he eventually gets in

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    • octavian8

      1 year ago

      As a RedsFan watching Votto all those years my opinion is a majority of those walks were due to teams pitching around him. He didn’t have anyone near his talent batting behind him. He was an elite hitter who refused to swing at pitches out of the zone.

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      • CleaverGreene

        1 year ago

        The ability to differentiate strikes from balls while playing at a GG caliber and putting up BA and Slugging numbers makes you a HoF.

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      Votto is a Hall of Famer based on today’s standards.

      Reply
  8. Shady1771

    1 year ago

    Are these injuries with Votto real or is he just stalling so he doesn’t have to join the Jays for this fiasco of a season! I certainly wouldn’t blame him!

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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      Day to day turned 4 months.

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  9. CTS4

    1 year ago

    3 things….Get Rid of shapiro, his useless GM the lackie atkins and GET RID of the HR jacket….Only winning teams deserve it…..

    The Nightmare continues…..!!

    1
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    • its_happening

      1 year ago

      But when they re-introduced the homer jacket they start having fun losing more games and slipping further below .500!

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  10. its_happening

    1 year ago

    Bo shouldn’t have been a deadline trade candidate anyway. Not with the season he’s had.

    First the knee last year and now the calf. Bet a lot of teams look at him as a second baseman. Bo’s value is sinking. Jays have two options here; trade him in the offseason for an underwhelming returning (because of the red flags mentioned), or make him Mr Blue Jay and extend him – with the idea that he plays 2B the rest of his career. If healthy, Bo would be a great 2B.

    Then the Jays would need to land a shortstop. Easier said than done.

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  11. Blue Baron

    1 year ago

    If they move Turner, why not also dump Votto? Pretty sure he’s an impending FA as well.

    I can’t imagine they would keep him around just for a non-baseball reason like him being from Toronto.

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    • KamKid

      1 year ago

      There is no reason for Votto to play on the Jays. Especially if they are trying to duck under the CBT. They should only dump as much salary as needed to get under and then retain all the rest in their trades no matter what direction they are taking. Selecting Votto works against that goal even if only somewhat. Still good for the team to give him a place to work on his goal of getting back to the majors, but that’s likely to be with another team.

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      • Blue Baron

        1 year ago

        He’s no different than any other player. No team should give him anything unless his performance shows he has earned it.

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  12. LordD99

    1 year ago

    Is Bichette the new Tim Anderson?

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    • KamKid

      1 year ago

      Hmm. That’s an interesting thought. What do you think is behind Anderson’s downturn? Both are very aggressive, make a lot of contact, and lean on high BABIPs to carry their success. With Bo, the interesting thing is that a part of the narrative was his bat speed that allowed him to hit the ball hard to all fields. That has certainly been the perception by the eye test when he’s good. But the bat tracking data that came out this year shows he’s well below average in bat speed and fast swing percentage. But we don’t have historical bat tracking data so it’s hard to point to that. Still, the quality of contact, batted ball data (not pulling anything, spike in ground balls), coupled with other athletic decline like sprint speed and lateral range hint that he’s not as fast twitched as before. Some of these things started showing up last year. But he was only 25 then. He’s only 26 now. I’d always worried about a long term extension for him because I thought he was a candidate for earlier and sudden decline because he’s very much a raw tools over skill player, but I wouldn’t have thought by 26. By 29 or 30 like Anderson is what I though early decline might be for his profile. He had a knee issue last year and has had calf issues this year and I wonder if he was dealing with those for a longer period before they put him out of action. I suspect he’s still got it in him to turn it around. But Tim Anderson is the cautionary tale for why an extension or long term free agent contract is risky with him.

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      • Blue Baron

        1 year ago

        I believe there’s nothing more to Anderson’s downturn beyond the extreme difficulty of playing and staying at the MLB level and him no longer being able to do it at 31.

        This happens to every player sooner or later. A select few make it to 35, 40, and beyond, but many flame out before they even reach 25 or 30.

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      • JoeBrady

        1 year ago

        You have to wonder how long these high BABIPs are sustainable. Bo’s been at .350 for about five years, and that’s supposed to be unsustainable. Now he’s at .266.

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        • KamKid

          1 year ago

          I think he earned those high BABIPs. This year isn’t just a change in fortunes, it’s a change in the underlying performance.

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  13. AToweringFlyBall

    1 year ago

    MLBJaysRumors

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  14. rememberthecoop

    1 year ago

    I wouldn’t move him. #1 they’d be selling low, which would limit the return and #2 he’s going into his walk year. You watch, he will have a monster season in 25. And the Jays are still in “win now” mode.

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    • Blue Baron

      1 year ago

      The Jays are really in “win when?” mode, lol.

      Reply
  15. NoSaint

    1 year ago

    @Blue Baron

    It depends on what they get back in trades. If it’s not MLB ready or near MLB ready pieces then they are not in win now mode.

    Reply

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