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Posey: Giants Pursuing Shortstops

By Darragh McDonald | November 5, 2024 at 3:22pm CDT

With the 2024 baseball season now complete and the offseason kicking off, the industry is currently buzzing at the general managers meetings in San Antonio. New Giants president of baseball operations Buster Posey spoke with members of the media and said the club is looking for a shortstop, per Shayna Rubin of the San Francisco Chronicle on X. Posey mentioned that Tyler Fitzgerald performed well in 2024 but can play other positions. Prospect Marco Luciano is seemingly ticketed for an outfield role for now, with the club hoping that can help him focus on taking a step forward at the plate.

It’s a bit surprising to see Posey be so frank in discussing a club need, as club executives are normally more cagy and vague in their statements, but it’s not a shock that he has identified this part of the roster as a target.

Brandon Crawford was a fixture at shortstop for the Giants from 2010 to through 2023, but his performance tailed off at the end of that stretch and the Giants didn’t bring him back for 2024. While Crawford got a bench job with the Cardinals this year, the Giants didn’t find an immediate replacement for him.

The aforementioned Fitzgerald got most of the playing time there this year and performed well at the plate. His 31.7% strikeout rate was on the high side but he hit 15 home runs in just 341 plate appearances, leading to a .280/.334/.497 batting line and 132 wRC+.

His defense was another story, however, as the advanced metrics weren’t keen on his work at short. Outs Above Average gave him a grade of -4 for his 594 innings at the spot while Defensive Runs Saved had him at -6. As Posey mentioned, Fitzgerald played other positions, spending some time in the outfield as well as at the three non-shortstop infield spots. Both OAA and DRS were more fond of his work at those other positions, so there’s logic in having him get bumped into a regular gig somewhere else or a super utility role.

As for Luciano, he has been considered a potential long-term solution at short for a while now but hasn’t cemented himself at the big league level. He has hit just .217/.286/.304 in the majors so far, in a small sample of just 126 plate appearances. His Triple-A performance hasn’t been great either, with a .243/.370/.386 line and 95 wRC+ at that level over the past two seasons.

His glovework has also been an issue and this isn’t the first time that the club has talked about moving him off shortstop. In September, manager Bob Melvin talked about Luciano getting more work at second base to finish the season, which was followed by then-president of baseball operations Farhan Zaidi talking about Luciano getting some work in the outfield.

It seems the organization now plans to stick with that latter path. Luciano doesn’t yet have any official game action in the outfield, majors or minors, so there may be a learning curve for a while. But given how demanding the shortstop position can be, it’s possible that lining up on the grass could help him unlock his offensive potential at some point.

He hit well through the lower levels of the minors and up through Double-A, spending plenty of time on top prospect lists during that rise. Baseball America considered him the #12 prospect in the whole league as recently as 2021, giving him a 60 grade for his hitting and a 70 for his power on the 20-80 scouting scale. Getting Luciano back on track in the batter’s box is understandably a priority for the Giants, even if he won’t be in the shortstop position.

With the club viewing both Fitzgerald and Luciano as ticketed for other spots, pursuing an external shortstop candidate is a logical offseason goal. The free agent market has one clear top candidate in Willy Adames. There’s also Ha-Seong Kim, but he recently underwent shoulder surgery and has an uncertain return timeline. Padres president of baseball operations A.J. Preller recently gave a vague “May, June, July” answer about Kim getting back on the field.

The Giants could sign Kim and then keep Fitzgerald at short until the shoulder issue is resolved, but signing Adames is a more straightforward solution. Playing for the Rays and Brewers, Adames already has 150 career home runs, a .248/.322/.444 batting line and 109 wRC+. He just finished a season wherein he stole 21 bases, hit 32 long balls and slashed .251/.331/.462 for a 119 wRC+.

Defensively, Adames has received strong reviews in his career but is coming off a down year. He was credited with 10 fielding errors in 2024, despite having only seven over 2022 and 2023 combined. His -16 DRS for the year was dreadful but he’s still at +4 in his career, even when factoring that in. OAA had him at exactly league average this year but had him at +16 in 2023 and +10 the year before that.

It would be odd for Adames to suddenly experience a steep drop in his fielding abilities at the age of 28, so perhaps clubs will view his 2024 glovework as an odd aberration. Either way, Adames is the clear top shortstop available and MLBTR recently predicted him for a six-year, $160MM contract as part of our annual Top 50 Free Agents post. All four contributors to that post predicted Adames would indeed sign with the Giants, which doesn’t necessarily mean it’s a slam dunk to happen. However, it does reflect that Adames and the Giants are a logical pairing, for the reasons laid out above.

The Giants have made more recent headlines for the top free agents they didn’t sign as opposed to the ones they did. They’ve been connected to big names like Aaron Judge, Carlos Correa and Bryce Harper in past offseasons and reportedly made some strong offers. Most notably, the club and Correa agreed to a 13-year, $350MM deal two years ago, which would have solved their shortstop situation at that time. But the deal got scuttled by the medicals and Correa eventually signed with the Twins.

As such, the largest free agent contract the Giants have given out in the past five years was to Jung Hoo Lee. He got a $113MM guarantee over six years but was an exceptional case as he was coming over to North America at the young age of 25. Apart from that, in the same five-year window, the Giants haven’t given a free agent more than the four years they gave Jordan Hicks and haven’t given a guarantee larger than the $62MM to Blake Snell. The latter deal didn’t even play out in full as Snell opted out after one year.

But perhaps Posey has a goal of flipping that narrative. He recently spoke about getting the Giants back into the “memory-making business” and was reportedly instrumental in getting third baseman Matt Chapman to sign a six-year, $151MM extension, a fairly similar pact to the deal projected for Adames.

RosterResource projects the Giants for a payroll of $155MM next year, more than $50MM south of the 2024 spending. Assuming they are willing to run a similar payroll next year, there’s plenty of room to sign Adames and pursue other goals as well.

There’s also the trade market for Posey to explore, though it’s unclear if there’s a better option than Adames available. Bo Bichette of the Blue Jays has been in plenty of rumors but that club’s general manager Ross Atkins recently threw cold water on the possibility and Bichette is coming off the worst season of his career anyway. He missed time due to injury and hit just .225/.277/.322 for a wRC+ of 71, after hitting .299/.340/.487 for a 126 wRC+ in previous seasons. A deal now would be a big sell-low move for the Jays while the Giants would be taking a big gamble on a bounceback. Bichette is also just one year away from free agency and would only be a short-term solution, unless the Giants wanted to pursue a trade-and-extend path, though that would only add to the downside if Bichette can’t quite get back on track. Bichette also has mediocre defensive grades for his career, making it fair to wonder how much longer he can stick at short. Nico Hoerner was another theoretical trade possibility but he recently underwent flexor tendon surgery and has an uncertain path forward.

Posey is only just beginning his first offseason as a top front office executive, so perhaps he will take some time exploring his options before making a decision. But for now, he has shown some refreshing candor in laying out one clear priority for the winter ahead.

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43 Comments

  1. kvick11

    7 months ago

    He can have Correa.

    Reply
    • Pete'sView

      7 months ago

      Correa is still a very good ballplayer. What’s your gripe?

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      • kvick11

        7 months ago

        We have too many young middle infielders that won’t get any AB’s due to his contract.

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  2. iffster

    7 months ago

    Tigers would gladly give you Javier Baez for a cold beer. (Maybe even a warm, flat beer)

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    • Acoss1331

      7 months ago

      I’m sure the Tigers would jump on that for a bag of balls even.

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    • Rothbard

      7 months ago

      The Giants can wait and pick up Baez after he is DFA’d. However, they might need to compete with the best dumpster diving team in pro-sports history, the Tampa Rays.

      Reply
  3. jawinks

    7 months ago

    Would they really want to give up more draft picks to sign Adames after the Snell and Chapman signings last year

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    • John_In_WI

      7 months ago

      He’s a free agent, why would they have to give up draft picks?

      Reply
      • kobo77

        7 months ago

        Qualifying offers tagged to certain free agents each year…

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        • Pete'sView

          7 months ago

          To my knowledge, Nico wasn’t offered a QO.

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    • realist101

      7 months ago

      Adames is expected to sign for 5 or 6 years. I think the Giants will keep giving up picks for FA’s like Adames, who sign long-term deals. Giants spend a lot, but their only playoff appearances in the past 10 years are 2021 and 2016. They’re not in a patient mode of hoarding draft picks.

      The lost draft picks that really hurt are when the FA is only there for 1 year, like Snell. The Giants avoided that with Chapman by signing him to a long-term extension.

      Reply
  4. Mr. McNasty

    7 months ago

    Good luck.. Noond wants to play in that shole city.

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    • Josh Ua.

      7 months ago

      Yeah, sign Noond for 5/$150 mil.

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    • Pete'sView

      7 months ago

      The McNasty1 — Your ignorance doesn’t move any discussion forward.

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    • Bart Harley Jarvis

      7 months ago

      Noond is a generational talent, and I’d love to see him play SS for the Giants for years to come.

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  5. sufferforsnakes

    7 months ago

    D-Backs might have some guys available.

    Reply
  6. MPrck

    7 months ago

    Javy Baez ????

    Reply
  7. Willzsco

    7 months ago

    The Giants are going nowhere. So, it doesn’t make sense to me why they would make a big splash to get Adames. They’d be better off getting a good but not great SS and focusing on their farm system.

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    • Pete'sView

      7 months ago

      Willzsco — Don’t be so sure.

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  8. John Bird

    7 months ago

    Refreshing to see him talk frankly about targeting a specific need instead of some pie in the sky word salad about how “we are all in on everyone”. Hopefully this indicates that their is more focus on building a solid team than wasting time by chasing after a superstar (Soto) who is not going to sign here and then trying to pivot when it doesn’t happen as happened with the previous FO.

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  9. SanDiegoTom

    7 months ago

    HSK makes a lot of sense

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    • 408inthe619

      7 months ago

      If healthy, 100 percent agree. He and Jung Hoo are apparently best buds. It’s just going to be interesting what HSK’s market will look like, especially with Boras repping him. I’m actually skeptical he plays next year, and Buster wants to see improvements year 1 of his tenure

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    • Pete'sView

      7 months ago

      SanDiegoTom — Not really. Giants need a better bat than Kim and who knows when Kim will return.

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  10. Phree4u

    7 months ago

    What about nico horner? He would fit well on that team imo.

    So since I don’t follow the Giants farm, what would you offer for him?

    Reply
    • Pete'sView

      7 months ago

      As a Giants fan, I think Nico might fit, but I’ve never seen him at SS. Have you seen him play there rather than 2b? If so, how’s his arm and glove at SS?

      Also, how long is he expected to be injured?

      Knowing that I might see some possible matches for the Cubs.

      Reply
      • Jean Matrac

        7 months ago

        Pete, Nico is an excellent fielder. I love the guy. The problem though is the injury. He had flexor tendon surgery and no one knows what the timeline is for recovery. As much as a healthy Nico would be a big plus, his health also makes him a huge gamble.

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  11. Pete'sView

    7 months ago

    Problem with Gleyber is his glove and he can’t play ss. Fitzgerald will be the Giants second baseman.

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  12. DarrenDreifortsContract

    7 months ago

    Hopefully they overpay for Adames.

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  13. Sadler

    7 months ago

    After Fitzgerald gets optioned by June, they’ll need a second baseman too.

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  14. VA/NC Orioles

    7 months ago

    An under the radar move for the Giants would be to link with O’s for Jorge Mateo. Has a cannon arm and is a good fit for that cavernous ballpark with that speed.

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    • C Yards Jeff

      7 months ago

      Agree, but hoping Os can keep him around as that utility guy backing up SS, 2b and CF.

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      • VA/NC Orioles

        7 months ago

        Definitely want the O’s to keep him as well. Would prefer they install him as everyday SS and move Gunnar to 3b. Jordan everyday 2b with Mayo and Holiday actually forcing the hand for promotion. Urias is solid UTL. Interesting that they’re potentially running it back with O’hearn and Mounty for time being.

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  15. Jean Matrac

    7 months ago

    Obvious to whom? One stated goal of the team has been to get better defensively; one reason why they extended Chapman. With their GB pitchers the last thing they need is a guy with a concrete glove. As a Giants’ fan I’d be very disappointed if they signed Torres.

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  16. GarryHarris

    7 months ago

    Javier Baez for Robbie Ray.

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    • WestVillageTiger

      7 months ago

      Tigers will welcome Robbie back…

      Reply
  17. JayRyder

    7 months ago

    There’s going to be a big trade.

    Reply
  18. Humm bumms

    7 months ago

    Adames, Snell or Burnes and Teoscar.

    Reply
  19. Joemo

    7 months ago

    Can I offer you one gently used Trevor Story?

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  20. alan.kawadler@verizon.net 2

    7 months ago

    You can have crevice story from the Red Sox. For literally nothing, and the sox may pay part of his salery.

    Reply
  21. youngliam

    7 months ago

    I like Kim for SF instead of giving Adames a long contract. It’s also a nice gesture to reunite him with Lee since they are close friends.

    Reply
  22. adshadbolt

    7 months ago

    Giants need to have a strong offseason. They need to land one of snell, fried or burnes, plus at least one other arm preferably 2 (pivetta, buhler, Boyd). Adames or Kim need to be brought in. Trade yaz and flores. If someone is willing to give a young quality arm or inf bat for doval consider it. I would be dishing out minor league deals to pitchers left and right for depth because they always seem to use and need it

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  23. Drasco0366

    7 months ago

    I still don’t understand why Luciano is considered a great prospect, tools? The only stop he has actually hit well is the rookie league and his defense at short is bad.
    I hope it works out for him and the Giants but I’ve always been a little confused.

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  24. debubba

    7 months ago

    Gabby Arias is now blocked by Rocchio. He has the defense and the pop but didn’t get a fair look from the Guards. They could trade for him cheap and stash him if they can’t find a top tier.

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