The Yankees and right-hander Walker Buehler have “some mutual interest” in each other, according to MLB Network’s Jon Morosi. New York joins the Braves and Athletics as teams already publicly linked to Buehler in the first few weeks of free agency.
The added wrinkle of the Yankees’ pursuit, of course, is that Buehler delivered some of the best moments of his career against the Bronx Bombers during this year’s World Series. Buehler tossed five shutout innings in the Dodgers’ 4-2 win over the Yankees in Game 3, and followed up that strong start by getting the save in the scoreless ninth inning of Game 5, as Buehler threw the final pitches that sealed the Dodgers’ championship.
Those clutch performances (and four more innings of shutout ball against the Mets in Game 3 of the NLCS) helped bring a happy ending to an otherwise difficult season for the 30-year-old righty. Buehler missed all of 2023 recovering from his second Tommy John surgery, and returned to post a 5.38 ERA over 16 starts and 75 1/3 innings for Los Angeles during the regular season. Pretty much all of Buehler’s secondary numbers and metrics were down from his career norms, including an 18.6% strikeout rate that ranked only in the 16th percentile of all pitchers.
It isn’t uncommon for any pitcher returning from a TJ procedure to initially struggle against big league hitters, even if Buehler has the extra baggage of both his 2022 surgery and the surgery he underwent soon after being drafted by the Dodgers in 2015. Nathan Eovaldi and Daniel Hudson are two of the more prominent examples of pitchers who continued to have success after returning from two Tommy John surgeries, but obviously there’s some risk attached to Buehler going forward, even if the upside is clearly also present.
MLBTR projected Buehler to sign a one-year, $15MM deal this offseason, with the reasoning that he would seek out a pillow contract for 2025 and then quickly return to the market next winter after (hopefully) posting some front-of-the-rotation numbers. Any number of teams could potentially be fits for Buehler on such a short-term deal, though presumably he would prefer pitching for a contender.
New York fits that description, and the Yankees are at least monitoring the free agent pitching market given reports noting their interest in Corbin Burnes, Max Fried, Blake Snell, and Sean Manaea. The Bombers have the resources to broadly check in on basically any free agent at least out of due diligence, and the perception is that the club is prioritizing re-signing Juan Soto before any other bigger-ticket offseason business.
Signing Buehler to a one-year deal might not necessarily count as “bigger-ticket” in comparison to those other frontline pitchers who will command hefty multi-year contracts. Any additions to the rotation, however, would seemingly necessitate a trade since the Yankees already have six rotation candidates on the roster in Gerrit Cole, Carlos Rodon, Clarke Schmidt, Nestor Cortes, Marcus Stroman, and reigning AL Rookie of the Year Luis Gil. Cortes or Stroman are the likeliest trade candidates if New York does indeed add another starter, and moving pitching could allow the Yankees to address other needs in the lineup or bullpen.
7 man rotation, problem solved.
Feels like Cortez or Stroman could be traded if they get Buehler. Cortez would net something hopefully useful. Stroman would net a Little Caesars Pizza.
…with no toppings
They have to pay down the contract to get crazy bread
The best kind is without toppings… I’m all in.
Joe – CorteS is the better pitcher, but it’s his contract year. Stroman would be more appealing to teams as he has 2 years remaining, provided he is partially subsidized.
Dude I don’t think stroman is appealing to anyone. He was awful for most of last season, insanely hittable and he’s getting 18 mil next season. Here’s the kicker, he has another 18 mil option that triggers based on innings pitched for 26. Very poisony
Stroman is only good in the first half.
No team that fancies itself a contender is going into the season with only five starters, though. The Dodgers used 40 pitchers in 2024!!!
Stroman had better stats. How is it that a guy with 2 major surgeries, with poor numbers, though he had a couple good moments in the WS, is considered a better option? Hmmm. Some guys get all the breaks and opportunities to rebound, while others are ready to be cast off the minute they have 1 down year. I wonder why? What’s the difference between them…
That’s the sloppiest attempt at race baiting I’ve read in a while
@DaSaint
and how many appearances did Stroman make in the world series? Actually how many appearances did he make in the playoffs? Cortes came off injury and got appearances while stroman i dont recall even throwing a warmup pitch for the entire month.
Says alot doesnt it.
Flyby mostly it says he sucked and didn’t deserve to pitch.
If you look at his monthly splits he was atrocious every single month besides may. He looks cooked
Stroman is getting over 18 million this year. I think he is going to be pitching somewhere no matter what. I guess when the Yankees traded Jordan Montgomery with even better numbers you asked the same thing.
@DaSaint Great point. One is 6’2, the other is only 5’8
Da – You must be new around here. Some here crap on players for no good reason. Look no further than Sox fans who wanted Sale gone and STILL support the trade. He’s quite tall so it’s not a height thing.
Stroman would bring back more, provided he is partially subsidized.
Joe – Or it says they wanted the extra lefty to pitch to guys like Freeman ;o)
I agree with you that stroman didn’t pitch well 2nd half but anyone could use the same argument throwing blame on Boone after all Gil was a good pitcher for the yankees last year he had nothing against KC, very little against cleveland and got a opposed against the dodgers. Now with that said he probably should have been used more than clarke schmidt. But this article is about stroman and cortes. Just saying
Dmac – Gil didn’t pitch for the Yankees last year, he didn’t pitch for any MLB team.
@Fever He means last season, perhaps? As in 2024…since the season is over.
I never mentioned race, but it appears that you went straight to that as a differentiator of opportunity. The guy has a 10 year career, with a winning record AND a sub 3.80 ERA and folks like you aren’t even acknowledging that. Instead, you see 1 off year and are ready to move on. Now I’m not saying that they couldn’t or shouldn’t, but what I am saying is that the other guy also had a bad year, but is being given the absolute benefit of the doubt that he’ll get better.
And I see this all the time. Some guys with marginal talents, either as a player or coach or manager are given opportunity after opportunity, while others are on a very short leash.
And the Yankees didn’t win the WS, did they? Does that mean they made the right decision? That’s subjective. For a good part of the season, Stroman was the most dependable starter in the rotation. If he didn’t get those wins, would they have made it to the WS?
The Yankees have proven themselves not to be the most adept at making pitching decisions, at least from a managerial perspective. The Dodgers did well, but what would the chatting universe/talking heads have said if Buehler had blown either appearance in the WS. Many would have said bad decision, right?
The guy had 6 straight years of ERA under 3.90. Sure, 2024 was his worst year from an ERA perspective since 2018. So, sure, he had a ‘bad’ year. But what was Buehler’s ERA? Hmmm.
Yeah, the guy who is 5′-8″ has a career ERA of 3.72. I guess that sucks! SMH.
Agree. The guy had an off year, but he ended the year with a winning record and an elevated ERA. We call that an off year. Typically, the pundits would say that since this is the final year of his deal, he’ll pitch better, and that would be the standard thinking.
A rotation that starts with Cole, Gil, and Rondon is a good place to start. Having choices for #4 and #5 isn’t a bad thing, with Cortes, Stroman and Schmidt.
Walker Buehlers upside years are a lot better than Stroman. Stroman is going to make over 18 million this year. Buehler will not. It’s got a lot more to do with value then the crap your insinuating. Stroman will be over 110 million earnings in his career after this year. Thats with him being one of the few that sat out the Covid year like he was an immune deficient 90 year old.Hes had plenty of opportunities and will still get plenty of opportunities.
Which Buehler will you be getting? The 2019 and 2021 version or the 2020, 2022 or 2024 version?
I’m not saying that he did not have a couple good years (playing on better teams than Stroman), but what I am saying is that the consistency is not there. Much like with Rodon, he’s not consistent. Stro-Man may not be flashy, but other than last season, he’s been consistent. A consistent SUB 3.80 CAREER ERA and a winning record. He’s certainly not a #1, #2, or #3 starter, but is Buehler?
So why can’t Stroman rebound back to his norms? Why is it that of the two, only Buehler can return to form? That’s my point. One gets the benefit of the doubt regarding returning to a career norm, while the other doesn’t seem to be able to get that benefit.
Dog – Last season would make a lot more sense than last year, unless he’s posting from the future. Haha!
At the end of May Stroman had a 2.60 ERA and not a soul was talking about him in a negative light. I had just seen him shut down the Padres and hold the Giants to 1 ER in 7 IP in successive starts. Yankees fans at those games were really happy about how Stroman was pitching. Especially with his fractured rib injury in 2023.
Then in that June 6th game against the Twins at Yankee Stadium he seemed to tweak something in his side in the 4th and was not the same for the rest of the season.
And they would still have to pay $5
Dave Dombrowski is sipping martini’s this offseason again I have a feeling. Guy has 1 foot out the door. We need rotation depth!!!!!!
It’s not even December yet. Most of these players aren’t signing for a month or two.
Dumbrowski thinks we only need a few minor adjustments. How about opening your eyes. Legitimate closer. Right handed outfielder with power. Rotation Help!!.
Johnny – His payroll is basically maxed out already. But Trader Dave will make a solid trade or two, always does.
Johnny Devil —
It’s too bad the Phillies don’t have anyone the Giants might want. Well, they do but THOSE are the ones the aren’t gonna trade.
This article is about the Yankees and Walker Buehler, not the Phillies.
you mean a team in competition with the yankees that could potentially sign him away from said yankees or at the minimum increase the price of Walker Buehler that the yankees would have to consider paying out?
Sounds like It is fitting just like if someone mentioned the mets or the a’s or the blue jays or the dodgers etc etc. Otherwise why mention Corbin Burnes, Sean Manea, etc etc in the artcle as neither have to do with the yankees and walker buehler.
That’s where I had him landing in the contest.
Come on AA go ahead and pull the trigger. Buehler,Sale, Lopez, Schwellenbach looks good and with Strider returning mid season, could look even better.
Are you sure Sale will last the whole season this time without getting injured? He was injured the three years before he came to the Braves and this postseason as well.
@troll You can never be sure, you just hope for the best
Absolutely. Point is you can never have enough pitching
@Troll — …with an average of 189 IP/season the 8 seasons prior to that. Let’s leave that out.
But even if that’s remotely true being a high-risk, high-reward SP, compare him to someone like deGrom making 38.33M AAV over the next 3 seasons vs. Sale’s 20M AAV over the next 2 seasons (with team option). Shorter deal and almost half AAV per season than what DeGrom is guaranteed.
Oh, I like him a lot. I miss having him, definitely, he’s just starting to age and you can never have enough pitching
C’mon Arte hit the button.
Arte dumped money on Harvey and Syndergaard. I could see this (Buehler).
(Insert team here) is interested in Buehler
Right ! He’s gonna blow past 15 mil ! Prob more like 4/80 and his post season success has little to do with his next contract as he was already a beast !
And in that game against the Mets he set a post season record for baserunners without giving up a run lol
No one is giving him 4 years, let alone 80 million lol.
“No one is giving him 4″…Buehler’s market seems surprisingly robust. After the season he had I figured he’d try to score a 1 year opt-out deal, but now I’m not so sure.
I guess I still think he’ll try to reestablish his front of rotation status with a multi year, first year opt out situation.
How about 2/25 with an opt out.
He gets more guaranteed money (than a pillow contract that he is looking for), has a chance to opt out if he performs, stay another year if he needs it.
A team either gets a little overpaid #5 innings eater or a below the market #3. On a 2 year max deal, not a lot of capital to tie up.
I think most thought he was hoping for 1/5 with incentives type of deal at end of season but the Playoffs must have stirred some “he has a shot to be a 2/3 guy again” conversations.
Maybe 1/25
30 yo missed all of 23, 71 innings in 24 at 5.37 ERA. Pretty sure 1/25 is not going to be an option.
Try 754 Ks over 713 innings with a 3.27 era. 1/25 is way closer than 2/25
I think he’s gonna get 3 or 4 years. If he were to sign for 2 yrs he ll almost certainly have an opt out after first and it ll be higher AAV probably $18-20M.
I think he ll get 3 yrs with a team or mutual option on a 4th yr.
Unless Buehler has serious concerns he only has like another 6 year window in MLB, I think it is more likely he takes the highest 2 year AAV. A bet on himself mentality. If he can have an above average 2025 then He can ask for 4 or 5 year deal at an ambitious total $ spread over probably more likely 4 years.
Coming off injury he had to kind of experiment what he could still do in terms of velocity and his best out pitches. I think his results the second half of the season are a better guide of what his reults could be the next 4 years
If I am a GM I’d give him an aggressive 2 year deal maybe with a 3rd year option. 10 plus teams will have serious interest I believe and teams with a better expected chance of the playoffs will have an edge.
He would be a very good investment for HOU (and many other teams) as this is probably their last year where they are Division winner favorites for say the next five years – possibly missing the playoffs every now and then. Springer, Correa gone Bregman gone for 2025 probably, Tucker the next
The Last Rodeo of a Core of players drafted around a 100 loss team
See Palesox fans there is a chance.
Big – if previous years history of being really good (while ignoring missing all of 23 with 2nd TJ and horrible 2024), why not just go sign Mike Clevinger as well?
That beastly 5.08 ERA and 5.54 FIP.
Wtf is wrong with this site. In the middle of editing my comment and an ad pops up that makes my comment that is open and all other comments disappear.
Here is the freaking edit. 5.38 ERA and 5.54 FIP.
He hasn’t pitched exceptionally well since 2021. Between the dominance he showed early in career and his postseason performance, seems like he’s got a lot of interest. I’m a little leery. But seems he has a lot of interest.
It requires some eye testing. He basically spent this season relearning how to pitch, with some pretty bad results early on. He said himself he expected to get cut from the roster, but the Dodgers stuck with him, and the results improved, quite a bit. He’s always been a competitor, he just needs to find the right pitch mix to be effective without his previously overwhelming heater. He’s getting there, even if his season stats don’t show it. This is why teams are interested
Buehler’s last 8 starts after he returned in August resulted in a 4.93 ERA and 5.04 FIP.. Better than his early season starts, but far from good.
His K% stayed at 18% but his BB% skyrocketed from 6% to over 10% in August and September.
The eye test confirmed the stats. Beuhler was bad.
In the post season he got spanked by the Padres and then had a 4 inning “start” against the Mets who had just 1 LHB in the lineup. Then he faced the Yankees and he had a great, 5 inning start and a 1 inning save. A save in which he faced Volpe, Wells, and Verdugo, 3 batters from the bottom of the Yankees lineup with a combined 88 OPS+.
Overall a 3.60 ERA in the playoffs.
The playoffs did not erase the eye test and stats from the regular season.
Nothing needs to be erased, because teams are far more interested in what they can project for the future, and the clearly emerging market for his services defies your analysis.
The reality is still that he hasn’t been an exceptional pitcher since 2021. Yes he’s coming back from injury and very well could get back to close to what he once was.
As of now though signing him to a large multi year deal would be high risk/reward. Of course he’s going to have interest though. The question is how long of a deal he gets. Seems to me any short deal he gets player options. Longer deals could be team options. I’d guess a 2-3 yr deal with opt outs is what he ll sign.
Nobody is expecting him to score a large multi year contract. The point is his contract won’t be based on the pitching line from 2024. If that was the case, he’d probably end up with a minor league contract and an invitation to spring training.
@Blue I’m kind of confused as to what you are trying to dispute here then. Think most of these comments agree there’s uside ans teams are interested in that. But there is also a reason for teams to be cautious.
I’m disputing the idea that his contract will be based on his pitching line from 2024, a year he spent regaining his command and finding an effective pitch mix. It will be based on whether teams believe he showed signs of doing both. The fact that he seems poised to receive multiple offers for major league contracts suggests the teams believe he has. Not sure what part of this wasn’t clear.
BTW, upside is not a great concept for understanding the contracts players are offered. For the most part, teams base their offers on the player they believe they are getting, not on the chance the player will turn out to perform a lot better than expected.
2024 is going to be a factor. It’s ot going to be the end all be all. But it happened and tape if all of his starts is or was surely analyzed by any potential suitors.
It’s no different than any other player. They ll analyze all stats, watch game tape, etc. Every bit of the players career is potentially relevant. Without his 2024 performance will be careful reviewed and what they see there will impact what he ultimately signs for.
Everything is going to be a factor, but that doesn’t change my point at all.
Look better in Toronto blue….
No one wants to go to Toronto
I do! Not to live but seems like a really cool epicenter for international activities.
I live in Toronto and there are a lot of fun things to do here. We have NBA, MLB, NHL here, great theater, just had T-Swift here for the last two weeks. Amazing food from all over the world and amazing night clubs. It is a cool world class city. Plus our dollar low right now so your money stretches here. Come visit.
My daughter lives in Toronto with her husband and two children. We love to visit. It’s a great city. Lot’s to do and see.
What “international activities” are you contemplating ?
Ellis – Love the GTA, hoping to hang off the top of the CN Tower someday.
Ok let me rephrase Toronto is wonderful place to go even to live and had great people… I love going. Now No Baseball player looking to win wants to go there… as a Red Sox fan I’m pissed Heaney is cheap now but the the Rogers are the Richest owners in all of baseball what gives….
Getting paid in $US…is like a 30% bonus.
And likely tax advantages as well on top of exchange rate. And none of it is deferred!
Best – Yeah 41% on the exchange but COL is much higher.
It doesn’t matter how cool the city is or isn’t. Players don’t want to go there.
Isn’t everything is high in Colorado?…(according to John Denver)
Yah…Canadian kooties…I’m sure that if there was a better front office….
bestone- all MLB contracts are in US$
I’ve been there a fair amount, though not recently. I was a little surprised at the cost of living. I needed a pair of jeans, and it cost me C$80 for a pair of crappy jeans, and that was about 20 years ago.
And someone from Halifax told me it costs C$10 for a red pepper?
Yes…all players are paid in $US.
But buying stuff in Toronto (like Rolex watches) in $Cdn will give you like a 40% discount…
Also, rent is paid in $Cdn….
Best – You’ve never been to Toronto have you.
About a dozen times annually since ‘85….
I’ve never been to Spain, however….but I kinda like the music…
L take
ibuititnoonecame —
Why bash a city? Tired of the ridiculously false, overused San Francisco narrative? Or Detroit? Or Chicago? Toronto is just fine.
Can you read…. Nope you can’t I bashed the team… but But the cities you listed are Greta cities ruined my liberal stupidity making them unsafe FACT
I have lost complete vision in one eye and barely can see with the other. But make fun of my dis ability that’s cool. Maybe you should nit judge so much without knowing
Too much Faux news watching is most likely why the bashing. Narratives abound there, all politically motivated.
The days of Walter Cronkite just reporting the news is long past.
It seems to be a slow time in mlb rumours….guys are looking for something to say.
Honestly, it seems that one city is much the same as the other. All have too many coffee outlets, the same restaurants, tent cities for people on the lower end of the pay scales, and other people willing to help us spend our cash. Used to be the same malls, with the same stores.
Other than the odd landmark, not sure what the difference is in most of the cities in North America….
That’s a no from me, dawg.
Good luck trading Stroman and his 18 million plus ‘26 player option without including at least 10
Higher, $15MM+
Find a trade partner for Stroman and wait for the badmouthing of the Yankees organization out the door.
Guaranteed
Maybe we can trade Sroman to the Red Sox.
We owe them for the Verdugo trade.
No thank you. Stroman is a headcase.
They better act fast because the A’s are interested in him too!
No surprise here. Probably a good gamble for the Yankees. I’m in a minority where i still think Soto is theirs to lose.
Stroman’s home/road splits indicate he was much better away from Yankee stadium. He had a 3.00 road ERA vs 5.31 home. 4 humerus allowed on the road vs 15 at home. Only word thing is he struck out about 50% fewer hitters on road. I think teams would take him if the yanks kicked in $8 mil x 2 for a couple of okish prospects.
If they can trade Stroman and Cortes, I am all for signing Buehler. Something like 3/40-45 maybe gets it done?
Yankees are petitioning mlb to allow Buehler to wear number 4077.
An obscure but not too awfully funny reference.
BlueSkies: Are you kidding? That’s not close to an obscure reference. Anyone the least bit familiar with MASH gets it right away.
Ashamed to admit I don’t get the 4077 reference?
*MASH*
Yes anyone who doesn’t remember every detail of a tv show that hasn’t aired for over forty years should hang their heads in shame.
BlueSkies: Nothing to do with shame. You have some strange ideas.
But the show airs regularly in syndication and is available on numerous streaming platforms.
It’s as much a part of American popular culture as The Honeymooners, Friends, and Seinfeld.
Thus, 4077 is not such an obscure reference that it makes you especially clever or sophisticated for using it.
Speaking of some strange ideas…
At least you acknowledge it. Good on you for self-awareness.
Why so smug? It wasn’t even like I didn’t get the reference, but apparently it was just too much for you to recognize that not everyone will, and it wasn’t particularly funny anyhow. Cripes. Are we done yet? I am.
BlueSkies: That’s nice.
No wonder they call him Hawkeye.
I like how his whole season sucked and it went to another level when it mattered most,
I think I have Walker signing with the Yankees, but they’re going to have to unload Stroman. Where Stroman would land, not sure but Yankees would have to eat at least 10 million of the 18 or so he’s owed.
Very doubtful as too many teams need pitching and Stroman at $12 -14 million avv is still decent with Yankees eating $9 million total over 2 yrs permitting his 2026 is exercised otherwise $4.5 million for 2025
Acoss – He’s owed $36.5M as he will definitely pick up the 2026 option.
Or they move him to the pen so he can’t trigger his 140 IP player option for ’26. Trading Nestor for some value would be the better move and they can rotate the fifth spot between Poteet, Warren, and a young arm.
They have higher priorities right now in resigning Soto and signing a 1B, 2B/3B, and OFer and some bullpen pieces.
YBC – BR has the innings requirement for this year, not next?
Oh nm. I misread.
YBC: Why are they so desperate to trade Cortes?
2026:$18M player option if Stroman has 140 innings pitched in 2024. The player option for 2026 has already vested.
Jazz is at 3B and Durbin at 2B so its 1B, OF, SP and bullpen arms. If Sotovreturns then scratch off OF too.
Fever,
Forgot about his option, then yeah Stroman will be hard to move. As others have said, trading Nestor is probably the better option.
Acoss: As I asked elsewhere, why are they so desperate to trade Cortes?
Blue Baron,
I can understand wanting to trade Stroman, but Nestor still has value. Only thing I can think of is maybe bring young prospects. But, yeah Nestor is still worth keeping.
They aren’t moving their ace, so not Cole, they aren’t moving their cheap controllable kids, Schmidt and Gil. Rodon with his performance so far they’d likely have to eat money to move him, he’s been OK but not lived up to his contract. Better to just hold him. Stroman has no value, he had 1 good month last season, the rest were Godawful, he’s also got a land mine in his contract, if he manages to even come close to worth the 18 mil he’s getting paid next year, he’s triggering an 18 mil option for 26,140 innings pitched needed. Nestor isn’t old, has a history of success or at least being solid. Left handed, not expensive, nearing the end of his contract. He’s easily the logical one to move if one is being moved.
Why are they anxious to trade any of them?
Yankees interested in spending 500 million plus on future commitments. It’s the offseason.
Yankee hater heard from.
Yankees are in murky waters right now. Going to overpay for aging mediocre players
Another Yankee hater heard from….
Future MLBTR headline:
25 Teams In On Every Player in League, Dodgers Sign Every Free Agent With Deferred Money Deals and MLB Roster Exemption, A’s, Marlins, Guardians, Pirates Cut Payroll
Are you having a difficult time with the rumors part of mlbtraderumors?
This is the stock in trade of much of MLBTR. Everyone is interested in everyone. Not much in the way of actual fact based rumors
This would be a great move for them. If he can get back to form when he was healthy, he would be a fantastic addition to the rotation.
This is a signing the Mets should look at, similar to the others they did last year with Severino and Manaea. Optional second year for the player. He’d be an outstanding 4th starter in the rotation with two more to be signed or traded for (Burns/Crochet).
2/25 with an opt out
Great minds. My post above a few hours ago.
Yanks don’t need starting pitching, they won last year even with Cole out half the year.. Plan A – Soto/ Scott/ and Walker! Plan B- Adames/ Walker and Scott. Yanks will be getting younger with Volpe, Jazz for a whole year, Dominguez, and Durbin at LF and 2nd along with Wells catching
Getting Walker on a pillow contract would have zero impact on Soto. Moving Cortes or Stroman (eating at least half his contract) can net some healthy bullpen help.
What do you guys think about a Stroman for Bellinger swap?
Cubs would do that because…?
Get rid of Bellinger’s contract and get a SP, which to my understanding are both things Cubs would like to do.
Gets rid of Bellingers 2/52 remaining salary which is over pay!
Cubs might do that to if you add Peraza or Periera!
Well, either add prospects (which they will have an abundance of on the 40-man), or eat a certain portion of Stroman’s contract.
Bellinger could actually be a good fit, great defense and can play 1B and OF, kind of hedges against Dominguez or rice flopping. I believe more in jasson than ben but he looked very rough in September. To push this team to championship level there needs to be more ballplayers, guys that have a high baseball iq as much as God given talent. I think durbin could be a great find. Christian Walker would be fantastic also.
I agree with you completely, Sorinotsori.
Buehler? Buehler? Buehler?
He is negotiating for days off.
Lmao we need defense and hit for average/RISP but sure… Walker Buehler
Only 3 pitchers have returned from 2 TJ or UCL surgeries to put up a sub 4.00 ERA in 20 starts or more.
Buehler couldn’t do it in his first season. Nothing in his results points to him being able to do it going forward. In fact, they point to him regressing further.
Hudson is a reliever, not a starter. Buehler could come back and be a reliever too. Maybe even an occasionally effective one like Hudson.
How many starting pitchers have had 2 Tommy John surgeries?
158 pitchers total
3 had 3 UCL procedures – none returned to pitching
60 of those never returned to playing.
5 are still out.
57 were starting pitchers.
14 never returned to pitching
4 are still out including deGrom and Ohtani.
24 have returned as starting pitchers
13 of those 24 were converted to relief within 1-2 seasons.
15 returned as relievers.
After the 2nd UCL procedure, 3 have put up a single season of 20 plus starts, 100 plus IP, and an ERA of 4.00 or better. One did that in multiple seasons, Nathan Eovaldi the Unicorn..
Wow! I didn’t realize it was that many. Thanks for the breakdown.
Wherever walker ends up, I’m still grateful for game 5. I’m grateful for watching him pitch the games over the years.
Yankees have to pay 33 mil in each of the next 2 seasons to DJ and Stro. If they can get rid of them and only pay a total of 18 mil they should be very happy.
Ohtani is going to be the next pitcher coming off his 2nd TJS in 2025 so its going to be interesting how he does
DJ getting released once Yankees complete their roster over the winter. They will need his 40 man roster spot to make that happen
Maybe the Yankees can trade Trevino and replace him with Jansen. Would be an upgrade.
I like that move, Jansen is a great fit for the Yanks
Okay, but he has to cover 1B.
I’d expect ¾ of the league to be in talks with this guy. Perfect fit for just about every team.
Rangers should sign Buehler if they lose Eovaldi
Walker, Texas Ranger
Buehler will stay with Dodgers. He loves it there and they are obviously contenders for awhile.