Run – The genius who asked the lefty question called him “Evaoldi” and also referenced “Comforto” so maybe it was karma for selecting such a train wreck of a question. Haha!
Oakland wouldn’t be feasible as a home for the Rays in 2024 as the schedules have been set. Teams planning to fly into Tampa Bay and then fly out to a close destination – often playing without a day off as doubleheaders are no longer scheduled – would be stuck. The Rays need to play in the eastern time zone and preferably in the south.
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The Oakland and the Tampa Bays situations remain as poor as they’ve been for the last 7-10 years. This nonsensical idea that MLB needs to expand to 2 more franchises….assuming they want to forget the AL and NL as such and have 8 divisions with 4 teams each in them is going to be a problem with 3 timezones…but more importantly: they’re looking to expand to cities that have had large growth the past 10-20 years…..which is why they expanded to Miami, Tampa Bay, Phoenix, and Denver years ago.
The problem there is: 1) Only the Denver franchise has drawn well over the years; and 2) We live in a technical world that is changing everything. Therefore, while expanding to say Nashville – a city in which people have moved to from all over America for numerous reasons – those people are not all going to sign up for season tickets. Most will go 5 times – give or take a few a season at most – to see a game live, and usually (as with the 4 previous expansion teams) will go to see the team from the market they came from live. Where technology fits in is simple – through streaming services fans living in Nashville from other areas of the country can view all their former market teams games on large monitors at home for a fraction of the cost of going to see a game live in Nashville. Through the Internet they can keep up daily with their home team, reading local newspapers/blogs and even streaming sports talk shows from their old market.
Moving to Oakland only worked out when they had WS teams. When those teams turned over the fans went back to the Giants. Point being that the idea that MLB already has 2 sick markets. LV is not going to have 2-3 million a year in attendance, nor will the Rays no matter where they play.
Expanding into 2 new markets in the continental US aren’t going to draw well. The best expansion areas would be in Mexico, Puerto Rico, and/or the Dominican Republic. People in those areas love the game and understand it better than at least 80% of Americans under the age of 50 (because they play it sunup to sundown). The problem there: Major League game prices are now expensive, with many franchises depending on business clients that can write the money off as a business expense. Mexico, Puerto Rico, and/or the Dominican Republic are not wealthy areas, so even if the average fan wanted to attend a lot of games that cost would be prohibitive. Franchises in those areas would have payrolls a fraction of what Americans small market teams have.
By not going to some sort of full revenue sharing unlike the other professional team sports, MLB is slowly strangling itself. If this next bout of expansion happens the existing franchises will share in billion dollar fees for newcomers to join, and then like caffeine/sugar or an energy drink (same thing) there will be temporary satisfaction, then the crash will come that the body/league will be sicker than before.
OMG! How in the hell do you expect to expand into these third world countries and make any profit? Cartels run EVERYTHING and would totally destroy the entire process! Nashville is not the answer either. These high concentrations of population does not usually bode well for new franchises. Charlotte,NC has been great area to put new sports franchises. Hence the Carolina Panthers in the NFL. Then fans from Tennessee, NC and SC have a central location and team to root for. Nashville isn’t known for sports, it’s known for being a hotspot for struggling country singers and such. Can’t imagine a struggling entertainment personality plunking down the money it takes to purchase tickets for one game much less season tickets. Most of your business moguls are leaving Tennessee as well because of these reasons. Charlotte would be much more feasible but considering the mentality of MLB over the past 20-30 years, they will find the least profitable area to try and expand. If we did these things in the real world we would be fired within 30 days.
The NFL and NBA can expand to smaller markets because they have pretty much total revenue sharing and some sort of salary cap to assure teams in them can be competitive.
When MLB expands into those markets it’ll be a novelty for a few years. Then local fans will realize that they bring in revenue like Tampa Bay, Oakland, and Cincinnati. They can kvetch about the owner being “cheap”, but no one is in business to lose money. Next step: They’ll be complaining about using tax dollars to build a ML park for a 2nd rate team.
MLB is hanging itself due to lack of revenue sharing.
If the Rays need a home for a couple of years, Hoover Alabama has a spare AA ballpark that’s in good condition. It holds about 11,000 but could be expanded to at least 20,000-25,000 pretty easily. It’s also in the southeast, so scheduling and travel wouldn’t be much affected.
Yandy has started exactly three games at 3B over the past two years, all in 2023, and had horrible defensive metrics the last time he played there regularly in 2022. The M’s need help at the position but still hard to picture them signing him and using him there in his age 33 season.
Eovaldi is a RHP, unless he is hard at work over the off-season.
Never say never.
Run – The genius who asked the lefty question called him “Evaoldi” and also referenced “Comforto” so maybe it was karma for selecting such a train wreck of a question. Haha!
Oakland wouldn’t be feasible as a home for the Rays in 2024 as the schedules have been set. Teams planning to fly into Tampa Bay and then fly out to a close destination – often playing without a day off as doubleheaders are no longer scheduled – would be stuck. The Rays need to play in the eastern time zone and preferably in the south.
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The Oakland and the Tampa Bays situations remain as poor as they’ve been for the last 7-10 years. This nonsensical idea that MLB needs to expand to 2 more franchises….assuming they want to forget the AL and NL as such and have 8 divisions with 4 teams each in them is going to be a problem with 3 timezones…but more importantly: they’re looking to expand to cities that have had large growth the past 10-20 years…..which is why they expanded to Miami, Tampa Bay, Phoenix, and Denver years ago.
The problem there is: 1) Only the Denver franchise has drawn well over the years; and 2) We live in a technical world that is changing everything. Therefore, while expanding to say Nashville – a city in which people have moved to from all over America for numerous reasons – those people are not all going to sign up for season tickets. Most will go 5 times – give or take a few a season at most – to see a game live, and usually (as with the 4 previous expansion teams) will go to see the team from the market they came from live. Where technology fits in is simple – through streaming services fans living in Nashville from other areas of the country can view all their former market teams games on large monitors at home for a fraction of the cost of going to see a game live in Nashville. Through the Internet they can keep up daily with their home team, reading local newspapers/blogs and even streaming sports talk shows from their old market.
Moving to Oakland only worked out when they had WS teams. When those teams turned over the fans went back to the Giants. Point being that the idea that MLB already has 2 sick markets. LV is not going to have 2-3 million a year in attendance, nor will the Rays no matter where they play.
Expanding into 2 new markets in the continental US aren’t going to draw well. The best expansion areas would be in Mexico, Puerto Rico, and/or the Dominican Republic. People in those areas love the game and understand it better than at least 80% of Americans under the age of 50 (because they play it sunup to sundown). The problem there: Major League game prices are now expensive, with many franchises depending on business clients that can write the money off as a business expense. Mexico, Puerto Rico, and/or the Dominican Republic are not wealthy areas, so even if the average fan wanted to attend a lot of games that cost would be prohibitive. Franchises in those areas would have payrolls a fraction of what Americans small market teams have.
By not going to some sort of full revenue sharing unlike the other professional team sports, MLB is slowly strangling itself. If this next bout of expansion happens the existing franchises will share in billion dollar fees for newcomers to join, and then like caffeine/sugar or an energy drink (same thing) there will be temporary satisfaction, then the crash will come that the body/league will be sicker than before.
Can you condense that to less than 300 words.?
TL/DR expansion is bad idea with A’s and Rays situation and only areas that make sense for a team are in poor countries.
FletcherFan & hoof hearted;
LOL
You kids would have to be able to think, and comprehend more than 2 sentences.
and you would think that anyone would take the time to read all that.lol skip-
OMG! How in the hell do you expect to expand into these third world countries and make any profit? Cartels run EVERYTHING and would totally destroy the entire process! Nashville is not the answer either. These high concentrations of population does not usually bode well for new franchises. Charlotte,NC has been great area to put new sports franchises. Hence the Carolina Panthers in the NFL. Then fans from Tennessee, NC and SC have a central location and team to root for. Nashville isn’t known for sports, it’s known for being a hotspot for struggling country singers and such. Can’t imagine a struggling entertainment personality plunking down the money it takes to purchase tickets for one game much less season tickets. Most of your business moguls are leaving Tennessee as well because of these reasons. Charlotte would be much more feasible but considering the mentality of MLB over the past 20-30 years, they will find the least profitable area to try and expand. If we did these things in the real world we would be fired within 30 days.
I’m in Charlotte and need baseball.
Nashville has NFL and NHL teams, so it is known for sports. Charlotte is a good option, too, but I don’t see it as obviously better than Nashville.
baseballfreak25;
The NFL and NBA can expand to smaller markets because they have pretty much total revenue sharing and some sort of salary cap to assure teams in them can be competitive.
When MLB expands into those markets it’ll be a novelty for a few years. Then local fans will realize that they bring in revenue like Tampa Bay, Oakland, and Cincinnati. They can kvetch about the owner being “cheap”, but no one is in business to lose money. Next step: They’ll be complaining about using tax dollars to build a ML park for a 2nd rate team.
MLB is hanging itself due to lack of revenue sharing.
Not sure the Charlotte Hornets ever got the memo on “assured competitiveness”
“Pretty much any sporting goods store” bha,ha,ha,ha(in the voice of pat morita-happy days)
Samuel- crib notes?
hoof hearted;
LOL
Is this the best ya got?
its what everyone is thinkng
If the Rays need a home for a couple of years, Hoover Alabama has a spare AA ballpark that’s in good condition. It holds about 11,000 but could be expanded to at least 20,000-25,000 pretty easily. It’s also in the southeast, so scheduling and travel wouldn’t be much affected.
Where would the players spend the night? Uncle Stu’s Motor Inn & Tackle
Your name is appropriate.
I’m here every night, the admission is cheap.
Yandy has started exactly three games at 3B over the past two years, all in 2023, and had horrible defensive metrics the last time he played there regularly in 2022. The M’s need help at the position but still hard to picture them signing him and using him there in his age 33 season.
It’s really hard to picture them signing Tandy since he is not a free agent, and a trade for him to play third base also doesn’t really make sense.
Yandy…stupid autocorrect.