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Mets Reportedly Expect Pete Alonso To Sign Elsewhere

By Darragh McDonald | January 16, 2025 at 1:45pm CDT

The Mets and Pete Alonso have been in a staredown for a while but it seems the club is blinking. Andy Martino of SNY reports that they now expect him to sign elsewhere, with today’s agreement with Jesse Winker part of a plan to spread money around to various alternatives. Earlier today, Will Sammon and Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reported that Alonso’s market was heating up, with the Blue Jays and Mets involved, as well as a third unidentified team.

Alonso and the Mets have clearly had mutual interest in reaching a new deal for a long time, but without the ability to agree on a price point. The club reportedly offered him a seven-year, $158MM extension in the summer of 2023, but a deal didn’t get done. Since then, there have been changes on both sides of the negotiations. The Mets hired David Stearns to replace Billy Eppler atop their baseball operations department in September of 2023, with Alonso then hiring Scott Boras the following month.

During the 2024 season, the sides generally expressed admiration for each other but never seemed to make much effort to get an extension done. Alonso turned down a qualifying offer and became a free agent. Though he was connected to various teams in recent months, he never seemed to get a deal to his liking. Alonso’s camp reportedly pivoted to a short-term deal, pitching the Mets a three-year pact with opt-outs. The Mets seemed to be somewhat amenable to this framework but a gap on the money still prevented a deal from coming together.

In recent weeks, the Mets have also been connected to players like Winker, Anthony Santander, Alex Verdugo, Tanner Scott, Luis Arráez and Tim Hill. They also reportedly offered Teoscar Hernández a two-year deal before he returned to the Dodgers on a three-year pact.

Martino’s report compares the Mets’ current plans to those of the Yankees after missing out on Juan Soto, spreading money around to various players as opposed to one big splash. After Soto went to the Mets, the Yankees gave out deals to Max Fried and Paul Goldschmidt, as well as trading for Devin Williams and Cody Bellinger. They could have done some of those moves in conjunction with Soto but perhaps were more aggressive in those areas since they hadn’t tied up their resources with the one mega deal.

The Winker signing alone doesn’t stop the Mets from bringing back Alonso, as the two coexisted on the roster in 2024, with Alonso the regular at first as Winker spent time in the outfield corners and designated hitter slot. But there has been some reporting that the club wants to use some internal options at the corners. Mark Vientos was the regular third baseman last year and had a breakout year at the plate, but with subpar defensive metrics. He could perhaps move over to first, while the Mets use Brett Baty, Ronny Mauricio and Luisangel Acuña to cover third base.

Perhaps things will change in the coming days but it now seems possible that the Mets are indeed prepared to walk away from Alonso. The earlier reporting from The Athletic indicated the Mets were in talks with various players and didn’t want the stalled Alonso negotiations to get in their way. While Winker doesn’t strictly block the path for Alonso to come back to Queens, it does seem to signal that the Mets are prepared to move on.

If it does indeed come to pass, it will be a surprisingly lackluster end to the Mets-Alonso relationship. He was a homegrown star with some New York roots and come up through the club’s system after being selected in the second round of the 2016 draft. He debuted with a big splash in 2019, hitting 53 home runs and also winning the home run derby. That campaign is now widely viewed as the juiced ball season, but Alonso continued to be a big homer threat in subsequent years.

Alonso now has 226 home runs over the past six seasons, second only to Aaron Judge in that time. He won another derby title in 2021 and was a staple of the club over their recent history, not having played less than 152 games in any full season.

During that time, the Mets went from a punchline to a powerhouse. While they were previously known for having middling budgets and results, Steve Cohen purchased the club ahead of the 2021 season and made them one of the top spenders in the league. They have made the playoffs in two of the past three years, with Alonso playing the hero last year. He hit four home runs in 13 playoff games just a few months ago, including the series-flipping homer off Williams to get the Mets past the Brewers and out of the Wild Card round.

But his star power in the media and general public seemed to outpace his popularity in today’s analytically-inclined front offices. While the home run power has been real, Alonso’s other contributions have been muted. His walk rates have been decent but not outstanding, he’s not a burner on the basepaths and his defense hasn’t been well regarded. His overall offense has also declined. While he hit .261/.349/.535 for a 137 wRC+ through 2022, he slashed just .229/.324/.480 for a 121 wRC+. FanGraphs considered him to be worth 2.1 wins above replacement last year, a solid but not elite number. There were 119 position players who were at 2.2 fWAR or higher last year.

It therefore seemed possible from the start of the offseason that Alonso would find his offers lacking in free agency. As part of MLBTR’s annual Top 50 list, we considered predicting Alonso for a deal along the lines of the three years and $80MM that Bellinger got from the Cubs last year after he lingered in free agency into February. We backed down from that prediction, putting 5/$125MM on Alonso, but it now appears he may well end up getting something like that deal. It just might be somewhere other than Queens.

It’s a bit of a surprising pivot, as the Mets have not been shy about spending since Cohen bought the team. While Stearns was in Milwaukee, he never spent a lot of money on first basemen, but he never had the resources he now has. Despite the deeper bank account, it still seems as though Stearns would prefer to invest in ways he considers wise. The club also didn’t play at the top of the starting pitching market, not signing guys like Fried or Corbin Burnes, instead taking risks on guys like Frankie Montas and Clay Holmes. Montas is coming off a down year while Holmes will be trying to pivot from the bullpen to the rotation.

All this will seemingly leave Alonso looking elsewhere for his next gig, with Toronto one possibility. The Jays already have a first baseman in Vladimir Guerrero Jr. but it doesn’t appear as though the plan would be to trade him. Per the reporting from The Athletic, the plan would be for Guerrero and Alonso to share first base and DH, with Guerrero occasionally crossing the diamond to play third base. Though the article from The Athletic says the Jays would “prefer” to hang onto Guerrero, Rosenthal made an appearance on Foul Territory and more emphatically shot down the possibility of Guerrero being traded.

Though the fit would be a bit awkward, the Jays could use the power. Toronto’s offense was close to league average last year, but a lot of that was thanks to having a walk rate that was bested by only six other teams. In the home run department, they were actually one the worst clubs, ahead of just the Marlins, Rays, Nationals and White Sox.

They don’t really have a strict designated hitter, which perhaps provides a path for Alonso and Guerrero to share a lineup. Justin Turner was their primary DH for the first half of last year but he was traded to the Mariners at the deadline. It would make it a bit harder for the club to rest someone like George Springer, but it seems the Jays have some openness to it regardless. Guerrero taking the hot corner could allow greater flexibility, though he only has 104 innings there over the past five seasons. Most of that came late last year as the Jays were playing out the string on a lost season. It’s unclear how much willingness they have to put Guerrero there in meaningful games.

Financially, it seems the club still has powder dry. They reportedly had a strong offer on the table for Burnes as of a few weeks ago, before he signed with the Diamondbacks. Since then, they signed Jeff Hoffman to a three-year, $33MM deal, but that is surely well shy of what they were willing to pay Burnes.

It’s theoretically possible that signing Alonso could give the Jays some cover for the event they can’t sign Guerrero, an impending free agent, to an extension. But it seems highly likely that Alonso will be securing a deal with the ability to opt out after 2025, meaning he would only stick around for 2026 if he has a down year. They would likely prefer to have Guerrero locked up long term, since he’s significantly younger than Alonso, while seeing Pete walk away earlier.

There are surely other clubs in the mix as well. Alonso has been connected to the Giants, Red Sox and Angels in recent weeks. Teams like the Tigers, Athletics and Mariners make sense as speculative fits. Since Alonso rejected a QO, the Mets will receive a draft pick after the fourth round if he signs elsewhere. The penalty for the signing club will depend on their revenue-sharing status and whether they paid the competitive balance tax last year. Perhaps we will have clarity soon as the staring contest with the Mets appears to be ending.

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  1. tom brunanskys black sock

    6 months ago

    This is the kind of spin you see a day or two before you see “Pete Alonso re-signs with Mets”.

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    • phenomenalajs

      6 months ago

      Yes, a Winker signing is not something that would preclude signing the Polar Bear. Bregman, maybe, not Winker.

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      • YourDreamGM

        6 months ago

        Neither would. Cohen won’t be denied.

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      • thebirds

        6 months ago

        Soto was a dramatic overpay. Everyone knows it and now they will let a cheaper option walk. I’ll give it 2 years and Mets fans will demand Cohen sells the team.

        He’s becoming the MLB version of Jerry Jones when he thinks he is Steinbrenner. lol.

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      • toptimrubies

        6 months ago

        @thebirds

        Sure Soto was an overpay but that’s what it was going to take and Cohen can afford it without blinking.

        Nobody will be demanding Cohen sells the team. With his money and willingness to spend paired with Stearns, that team is going to be in great shape.

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      • thebirds

        6 months ago

        Never said he was using other people money? Said he was an overpay and you agreed. But where you are wrong is that they are “going to be in great shape”. Unless you mean making the payoffs every once in a while? He’s is and has been trying to buy a WS for years not. How has that worked out?

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      • SalaryCapMyth

        6 months ago

        @178- Who did you hate to say it too? A room full of people who already felt the same way? =D

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      • ChuckyNJ

        6 months ago

        This ain’t an NFL blog!

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      • toptimrubies

        6 months ago

        lol at “trying to buy a WS for years.”

        They’ve had four seasons under Cohen. He’s just getting started turning the org around.

        Rangers “bought” a WS just two seasons ago. It can work.

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      • Dogbone

        6 months ago

        Pete is going to be a gross overpay too, for whoever ponies up over two years.

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      • JohnnyUtahSmells

        6 months ago

        THEBIRDS
        Easily one of the most fascile nonsensical analogies made on
        This has nothing to do with Cohen, he’s deferring to his POBO so you’re statement is utter nonsense.

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      • Benjamin101677

        6 months ago

        The problem is they got Soto than to dare haven’t added the starting pitcher: bullpen arms or other offense to go with what they spent. As of today the Mets on paper aren’t a team that really scares people. There are alot of questions with this team. As of today there is debate if they are even the best team in the division let alone the league

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      • JohnnyUtahSmells

        6 months ago

        Ben thats total nonsense.,
        We were the best team in baseball for 4-5 months last season and now have a healthy Senga and signed Manaea,, added Juan Soto and have a top 7 projected bullpen even if we don’t add anyone else so wtf are you talking about.

        I’m not sure where you think we could’ve improved, maybe by handicapping our future flexibility by signing a SP for 8 years? No thanks

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      • LETS GO METS/JETS/KNICKS

        6 months ago

        You’re delusional

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      • thebirds

        6 months ago

        Yeah so did the Dodgers. But Cohen can’t figure it out hence that’s why he is the Jerry Jones of the MLB.

        And for the record four years means “multiple years”. Not sure why that had to be explained to you?

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      • toptimrubies

        6 months ago

        goodbye incel troll.

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      • KnicksFanCavsFan

        6 months ago

        @178

        I’ve never heard of a hitter hitting in FRONT of a batter effecting their batting average. RBI’s sure but they’re no protection by hitting in front of you.

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      • Blue Baron

        6 months ago

        178iq: Who’s AJ?

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      • 'Tang It

        6 months ago

        I don’t believe in that rotation at all

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      • larkraxm

        6 months ago

        Not if you are buying Clay Holmes and Frankie Montas. What Cohen and Mets fans will learn is that just spending isn’t enough. It matters who you spend the money on. Comparing the moves the Rangers made to bringing in the OMG guy and converting a failed reliever into a starter is a false equivalency. Paying Clay Holmes and Montas more money doesn’t make them better pitchers.

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      • Benjamin101677

        6 months ago

        The mets 2024 season came down to the last day of the season; You can’t expect Lindor to be as hot as he was in 2024; there are many questions about the Mets. The mid to back end of the mets rotation is that strong. The Mets line up doesn’t give anyone fear factor at this moment with whom they have.

        At this moment I wouldn’t put the Mets as a fearful team or even the division favorite. Off season not over yet; but they got Soto than haven’t added the pieces around him needed for a championship run.

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      • Grimace LFGM

        6 months ago

        @thebirds that’s someone who’s sipping Cohen haterade excessively. There isn’t a team in baseball that wouldn’t want the partnership of Stearns and Cohen

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      • JohnnyUtahSmells

        6 months ago

        “The mets 2024 season came down to the last day of the season”
        Ok. Great. They were still the best team in baseball for over 4 months.

        “You cant expect Lindor to be as hot as he was in 2024”.
        You don’t know that. You can’t prove that. That’s an opinion.

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      • Enrico Pallazzo

        6 months ago

        Yup. Even on a two year deal his contract is not going to age well and everyone knows it. That’s why the Angels will probably sign him to a 5-7 year deal.

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      • dpsmith22

        6 months ago

        you obviously should stick to basketball, baseball is not your thing….
        pitchers pitch differently when runners are on base. of course it matters..

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      • robw5555

        6 months ago

        They wont demand he sell the team after they got Soto. Their pitching doenst look great, but that can be said about many teams.

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      • MLB Top 100 Commenter

        6 months ago

        The birds

        I think the Mets are only the third best team in their division and maybe fifth or sixth in the National League. I also think that less than five percent of Mets fans will be asking Cohen to sell even if the team only makes the post-season only fifty percent of the time. He has made the team better. It is their starting pitching and not the lack of a polar bear that makes them weaker than Los Angeles, Philadelphia, Atlanta and San Diego and more comparable to Arizona, Chicago and Cincinnati when I project won-loss records for 2025.

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    • rct

      6 months ago

      It’s Martino. Take him with a grain of salt.

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      • dugmet

        6 months ago

        This is a rumor site.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      6 months ago

      Waiting for the report about the mystery team!

      Go, Sacramento A’s!

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      • mlb fan

        6 months ago

        “Report about the mystery team”…Teams have wised up to the shady tactics of Scott Boras and this year’s “mystery team” is located in S. Korea or Japan.

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        • Tomas7

          6 months ago

          He’s has to get rid of Boras, unfortunately Pete didn’t learn from his teammates experience, Micheal Conforto and Boras. I hope he gets signed by someone and hope it’s with the Mets. I don’t want have to drive to Sacramento and watch Pete play for the A’s—could this be the so-called mystery team lol?

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    • Seamaholic

      6 months ago

      No, it’s what you expect to see a day before he signs elsewhere. The Mets never wanted him back. I don’t know how else to say it.

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      You poor souls. Alonso is not coming back to the Mets. A 30 yo with one skill, a .459 SLG, who’s below average at everything else and is visibly and statistically in steep decline.

      To top it off he has a completely unrealistic opinion of his talents and is greedy, to boot.

      Only Billy Eppler, in the lowest possible tier of GMs, was willing to offer Alonso a 6/$137.5m extension. Now that the Mets have a GM who didn’t even (correctly) bring back Chris Carter for $8.1m the year after he hit 41 HR, Alonos’s only getting into Citi with a ticket.

      Only the Rockies or Angels can save Pete now.

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      • Seamaholic

        6 months ago

        Rockies have zero place to play Pete. Angels seem like a good bet, along with the Giants.

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    • bigjonliljon

      6 months ago

      Could be. Probably.
      But an expensive deal, be it a long or short term with high annual averages, that can easily go sideways awfully fast. I wouldn’t touch him at the numbers being mentioned. Let him rot on the FA vine until spring training and then swoop in with a $15M yearly deal. Maybe 2 years with a team option for 3rd year. Or let him sit on Boras’s couch all winter.

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    • rondon

      6 months ago

      I’ll bet he’d take that 2024 offer now.

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    • Grimace LFGM

      6 months ago

      I thought the same exact thing

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  2. DarrenDreifortsContract

    6 months ago

    1 year/5 million prove yourself deal with the Dodgers.

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    • Casey "Cash" Considerations

      6 months ago

      where would he play?

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      • CarverAndrews

        6 months ago

        The Dodgers would probably play him as a ute… ; )

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      • YourDreamGM

        6 months ago

        On the Dodgers new 2nd team obviously. Gonna be like the dr league with teams that have so much talent they need more than 1 team.

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      • Longtimecoming

        6 months ago

        Minor league depth

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      • Rexhudler86

        6 months ago

        @jpauly. Good question he will sign a one year deal and fire boras. He waited to long.

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      • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

        6 months ago

        He could be the organist

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        • spliffTONE

          6 months ago

          @Logjammer D”Baggagecling: No way. They already have the best organist in the game

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        • freddiemeetgibby

          6 months ago

          Dieter rules!!!

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        • Tomas7

          6 months ago

          True

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        • N Boylston St Parker

          6 months ago

          NO WAY! Dieter Ruehle Is the best in the business

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        • Logjammer D"Baggagecling

          6 months ago

          Okay then. He can be a beer vendor and a hot dog vender at the very top of Dodgers Stadium.

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    • RoastGobot

      6 months ago

      40 years deferred

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    • slund24

      6 months ago

      That wouldnt be smart at all. If he was willing to do only a 1 year deal I’m sure several teams would be in on his services and will to pay $20+m. Its paying that price for several years is what is keeping teams away. If Pete doesnt have a great season hes back on the market next year 1 year older and a lot less likely to sign for what he can get this year.

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    • Gwynning

      6 months ago

      Same prove it deal, but with my Pads. Dodgers roster is full, although they (hypothetically) will find room for Roki (if he’s not a Pad like we think he will be!)

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    • Redwolves3

      6 months ago

      Dream on! No way Alonso takes Freeman’s place at 1B & DH is locked up with Ohtani & Dodgers wouldn’t even consider giving Alonso $5M to sit on bench & PH

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  3. RunDMC

    6 months ago

    Wait…TOR? They trading Vlad Jr to NYM or having him DH for his swan song? Not moving back to 3B – they wouldn’t.

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    • DanGrant2185

      6 months ago

      It’s sub ideal but if Alonso takes 80 games at DH and 80 at 1B, you can give Vladdy 80 at 1B, 40 at DH and 40 at 3B, on paper, and then you still have 40 DH days for Springer and whoever else. Wouldn’t be the end of the world.

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      • RunDMC

        6 months ago

        Would that be a backup for Vlad Jr’s exit, and/or be tied to an Alonso opt-out that could see TOR in 2026 without both?

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      • truthlemonade

        6 months ago

        Yeah, I also like mapping out playing time like that. If you did that, you would have more DH days for Springer, et al, because Alonso and Vladdy probably wouldn’t be starting 160 games each.

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      • Noah G

        6 months ago

        I can’t imagine Alonso would want to go somewhere he’d DH right off the bat. Not if he’s hoping to re-enter the market next year or the year after.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          6 months ago

          Funny part is while I don’t watch every Met game, living in NY I see parts of many and I think Alonso’s defense is at least average.

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        • RunDMC

          6 months ago

          He definitely was working on it last year, at least enough to justify giving him a shot at it for another few years and not have teams lowball him arguing that he’s a DH from Year 1 of a contract. Then again, he may revert in spring training kicking rocks from a pillow deal.

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        • dugmet

          6 months ago

          Oof. Pete scoops bad throws very well but every other aspect of his fielding can be pretty bad – especially tossing the ball to the pitcher on a 3-1 play at 1B.

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      • Idosteroids

        6 months ago

        Vlad has one of the worst range values in the MLB. His days at 3B is fading into the sunset.

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        • jimmertee

          6 months ago

          If a team has to play Vlad Jr at 3rd base, that means the team is not winning anything. He can’t play 3rd well, he is a liability there, and gets exposed often.

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        • Seamaholic

          6 months ago

          Eh. Infield defense is highly overvalued in the modern game. No one hits ground balls anymore, at least not on purpose.

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        • 'Tang It

          6 months ago

          Ask the red Sox

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      • Whyme

        6 months ago

        Springer DH LOL.

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    • LordD99

      6 months ago

      They can then both by having them rotate first and DH. Both are highly durable, playing 150+ games.

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      • JackStrawb

        6 months ago

        Yeah, that makes sense.

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    • YourDreamGM

      6 months ago

      Pete would dh I would guess. That’s if they want Vlad back and want to keep clubhouse. If they want to f over Vlad year from free agency they make him dh.

      Trade would be smart and very possible. Extend or trade.

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    • Fever Pitch Guy

      6 months ago

      Run – He played 100 innings at 3B last year, it’s not out of the question he could platoon at 1B and 3B.

      mlb.com/news/vladimir-guerrero-jr-an-option-at-thi…

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      • die defunctorum

        6 months ago

        If I’m Vlad I want to show teams I can play both 1B and 3B in my walk year. Then the Dodgers, Mets or Yankees give him a big payday for 2026 and beyond.

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        • Anthony maresca

          6 months ago

          Yankees are not going to go near Vladdy for the years and price tag. They have Rice waiting in the wings and maybe Japanese stud who is a lefty along with Bellinger whom I believe will be their future 1B. OF will be Dominguez, Jones and Judge with Pieria their 4th OF off bench.

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    • Pete Cruise

      6 months ago

      Vlad stated last season that he would want to play 3rd. Bring in Alonzo, Vlad plays 3rd. Bring in Bregman, Vlad stays at first. This ownership group has to just make up their minds on what they are going to do.

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      • 'Tang It

        6 months ago

        It has less to do with the team making up their mind and more to do with whether anyone wants to go there.

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    • Digdugler

      6 months ago

      It makes no sense. Every Toronto move makes no sense!!!!!

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  4. longjuansilvers

    6 months ago

    Massive mistake. Should’ve been a met for life.

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    • thecheddahbob

      6 months ago

      Absolutely not. 1 tool power hitters turn into Pumpkins by age 32. There isn’t a single guy with his profile who signed a big deal that didn’t become historically bad (see Chris Davis and Ryan Howard). Pete struck out 180 times last year, after striking out 128 times both in 21 and 22. His bat speed is falling off and he’s going to be a paperweight within 2 years

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      • rct

        6 months ago

        Chris Davis needed adderall (and previously had several below average years under his belt prior to the contract) and Howard tore his Achilles and was the worst defender in the entire league. Not sure how they compare to Alonso.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 months ago

          Offensively the comp works. Alonso’s toolset doesn’t age well. He’s significantly better than Howard defensively, but he’s still just a mediocre 1st baseman with tremendous power. The power is what ages poorly.

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      • Joe It All

        6 months ago

        Completely agree with you. Adam Dunn hit over 400 HRs in his career but his last few years were sad. When Alonso drops off it will be steep and you’ll barely remember the player he used to be.

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          @Joe It All Fun Facts:

          Adam Dunn unaccountably played the field in the NL for his first 11 seasons instead of being dealt to DH in the AL Result? His dWAR for those 11 years was negative 21.8.

          His last 10 years in baseball he put up a negative 24.8 dWAR and a 23.3 offensive WAR while hitting 344 HR. He was so bad in the field he was a net negative despite teh HRZZZ.

          Dunn’s negative -5.2 dWAR with the Nats in 2009 appears to be an MLB record.

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      • Noah G

        6 months ago

        Having a homegrown star to root for their whole career is worth more than a championship.

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        • Casor_Greener

          6 months ago

          @Noah

          epic troll! LOL

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        • marinersfan1977

          6 months ago

          what kind of Loserville take is that?

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        • JohnnyUtahSmells

          6 months ago

          NOAH: Having a homegrown star to root for their whole career is worth more than a championship.
          L M A O

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        • Seamaholic

          6 months ago

          Sorry to say no one cares about that. And if you do, you are probably a loser franchise.

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          @Noah G It’s too bad, then, that Alonso stopped being a star no later than 2022.

          Was he one, though, after 2019?

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      • Big whiffa

        6 months ago

        Power and hitting are two separate tools. So he’s got atleast two. And he’s was better than Davis was. Dude had a career year heading into free agency and was mediocre at best the rest of the time

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      • JackStrawb

        6 months ago

        Let Chris Carter be Alonso fans cautionary tale.

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      • kabphillie

        6 months ago

        As a Phillies fan, Ryan Howard was the first comp I thought of with this Alonso negotiations. All power, nothing else. Howard was a hero for a few years but that faded quickly when his bat disappeared.

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          A far better hitter than Alonso, Howard wasn’t even in visible decline as of his age 29 season, but he was still toast after age 31.

          Durable, 1st, 2nd, and 3rd finishes for MVP, he was done two years after a 145 OPS+.

          Ruben Amaro Jr’s monster extension for Howard, something like 9 years close to $200m was one of the key reasons Amaro would be fired. Deservedly so. One of the worst GMs in baseball, had no truck with ‘advanced’ stats and openly despised Moneyball.

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        • CarverAndrews

          6 months ago

          I won’t argue that the extension was premature, but let us not forget that the Achilles tear basically took him away from his game. Once a guy like him loses some of that awesome ability to plant and drive the ball, the rest of it falls away and he was never even close to being the same hitter.

          And that injury occurred just as the extension kicked in. Without the crippling injury, we would have seen a far more gradual decline.

          And while Ruben wasn’t the greatest GM around, he was hardly as bad as his devoted haters believe. He was more a symbol of how Phillies ownership operated at that time…basically he is a smart but flawed baseball guy with a bit too much ego, but overall a decent bloke.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 months ago

          Also the shift destroyed him. Teams started shifted him drastically and he it just ate up his hits.

          Prime Howard would destroy in this no-shift era.

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        • CarverAndrews

          6 months ago

          Agreed – the shift was a huge factor. But even with all of that, the Achilles just destroyed what he had left. I know that you saw it, but a lot of fans don’t realize how damned good that he was…he could have had a monstrous 7-10 year prime as a hitter, and it was cut short. He also was not a bad defender overall at first; great scoops and decent fielder with enough range except for the oopsie throwing issues. The leg issues exacerbated the defensive limitations as well.

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    • YourDreamGM

      6 months ago

      Should have taken the $ Pete

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  5. IloveMACfootball

    6 months ago

    Don’t screw this up Cohen. Stop bragging about how much money you have if you won’t pay Alonzo. You’re a phony.

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    • YourDreamGM

      6 months ago

      He didn’t get that $ by being a idiot. If Pete wants too much it’s too much. Someone else will take Cohen $

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    • 86mets

      6 months ago

      Seriously dude? Yes, he has money. Doesn’t mean he’s going to spend it recklessly. He dodged a bullet when Alonso foolishly declined the offer two years ago. He is a one trick pony who is probably already in decline. Stearns is absolutely right to stick with a 3 year offer. Any more is wasted money.

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    • Jesse Chavez enthusiast

      6 months ago

      Lol, I never thought I’d be defending the Mets but I don’t think it would be smart to give out a long term contract to basically a one-tool player. Most likely in a couple of seasons he will be moving to DH anyway

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    • dugmet

      6 months ago

      Mets and Cohen have offered Pete fair contract terms.

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      • VonPurpleHayes

        6 months ago

        Have they? It’s crazy how many people are taking billionaire Cohen’s side here. Mets haven’t offered anything more than 3 years to a guy who has been a franchise player. I’d absolutely be insulted. I agree that it’s smart by the Mets, but from the player standpoint, I don’t think Alonso got a fair deal.

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        • Ma4170

          6 months ago

          Well, they offered 7/158 last year. I don’t know what they offered this year, but if it was 3/90, that’s more than fair for his recent production.

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        • Buckner

          6 months ago

          Agents want players to get paid for what they DID.

          Owners (should) want to pay for what you can DO.

          Mets should stick to their guns here. A short term deal should be all they offer. Personally, I hope Alonso stays, he is a likeable guy, but what will be, will be. It’s a business.

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        • mlb fan

          6 months ago

          “Billionaire Cohen’s side here..I’d absolutely be insulted”…There’s lots of guys working at McDonald’s or Burger King who absolutely agree with you.

          They’d totally be “insulted” by a 3 year, high AAV($30M+/yr)offer and they’re willing to sling hamburgers & fries until they get their desired offer.

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        • JoeBrady

          6 months ago

          VonPurpleHayes
          Have they? It’s crazy how many people are taking billionaire Cohen’s side here.
          ========================
          I don’t even know how to process this. All of the owners are billionaires, so pointing out that Cohen is a billionaire seems redundant.

          I’m not sure even a single person is taking Cohen’s side. Most of the comments is that Alonso is a one-tool player that they expect to decline.

          And finally, the Mets offered him higher-than-market money, which he turned down.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 months ago

          That was last year. Not relevant. Everyone goes to Free Agency these days.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 months ago

          There’s less billionaire owners than you think, but my point wasn’t to distinguish Cohen at all.

          There are multiple posts criticizing Alonso for not taking the money. He wants the years. I’m not even saying the Mets should give it to him. But fans turning on Alonso for asking for more than a 3-yrar deal is silly.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 months ago

          Now, this take I agree with. I don’t get the fans just turning on Alonso. Not signing him? Sure. I support that decision by the Mets. His skillset is likely to decline, but bashing him for not taking a short-term deal is silly.

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        • YourDreamGM

          6 months ago

          You need some real problems. Then you wouldn’t give a rats as how they treat Pete or what he gets paid. Don’t worry life takes care of most people.

          If Pete gets 300 million or never plays baseball again it doesn’t matter to me either way. For my personal entertainment I want to see him cry like Freddie but if he gets a record deal that’s just as fine. I’m not going to worry about another grown mans $.

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        • VonPurpleHayes

          6 months ago

          Thanks for that life-changing comment.

          Of course, none of this impacts me drastically, but this is a baseball rumor site, so I figured I’d talk baseball and express baseball opinions.

          We can discuss the meaning of life in another forum.

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        • marinersfan1977

          6 months ago

          That’s the case if your agent is Scott Boras — if you have an agent that cares about the player and his future, he’d tell the player when he’s offered a great deal by his team that he should take it. Alonso should have signed that 7/158 deal. Not getting close to that this winter.

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        • batterseye

          6 months ago

          Yeah, and here lies the problem. The remuneration structure isn’t fit for purpose in the ‘modern’ baseball world.

          The structure evolved over many decades to reward players in the middle/end period of their careers, whereas analytics now recognizes the folly of paying guys as they decline when you can find similar production from guys who are much lower on the remuneration ladder and don’t have lengthy contracts.

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          Pete was never a franchise player. Never.

          Even when the juiced ball made him a star in 2019 deGrom was the real star of the Mets, being far more valuable while winning his 2nd consecutive Cy Young.

          And Squirrel was the much better rounded player, an above average 2Bman who could handle all three OF slots who put up an identical fWAR of 4.7 in 2019, with a 138 OPS+.

          Eliminate the juiced ball year and Alonso, career, doesn’t even have a .500 SLG.

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        • jimmertee

          6 months ago

          @Buckner, best comment in the whole story, I will add analytics looks back on what they did in the past and good intuitive scouting looks forward on what they will do in the future..

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          @Ma4170 It’s far too much given you can sign Flaherty + Tanner Young for that AAV, and it also blocks 3B by keeping Vientos there, the only slot left in 2025 for a young players making the minimum. It also cements for the next three years the worst corner IF defense in baseball.

          If you’re not playing young guys at the one open position on the roster, guys who rate to combine for 2 fWAR in 2025 at 3B even if they don’t improve, you’re never going to be a franchise that wins consistently.

          Even Cohen can’t sustain a team that fills every position through FA.

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        • Buckner

          6 months ago

          @jimmertee – thank you Sir.

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    • Dock_Elvis

      6 months ago

      You’re probably a person who feels like wealthy people should be ok paying $20 for Chipotle. Simply HAVING money doesn’t mean you’re obligated to spend it ridiculously.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      6 months ago

      You can’t take either side without knowing the numbers. At the beginning, I thought a three year $90 million deal would get it done, with opt-outs after the first and second year. If Pete won’t take that it is on him, but if the offer is three years $90 million with no opt-outs, I could see him waiting.

      It also adds nothing to say that Pete blew it by not making a deal a year ago, we all know that now. So what. People miscalculate a market. Even if Pete can get a two year deal at $30 million per year with an opt out after the first year and then follows it up with a deal at half that, he has only lost a third of the potential from a year ago. Those things happen and he is still set for life.

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      • Dock_Elvis

        6 months ago

        Pete should have seen that obp slide as ominous. He’s changed agencies. But someone making a crack of his salary should have been straight up with him and said he was looking like an aging power hitter. Maybe they did.

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      • Noah G

        6 months ago

        Pete is already set for life. He has made $44 million to date, and that’s not counting endorsements.

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      • marinersfan1977

        6 months ago

        they didn’t “miscalculate” the market. the writing was on the wall for Alonso and Boras — especially after last year. But Boras always feels like something team will overpay all his players. Four players got screwed last year and more this season.

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    • sheagoodbye

      6 months ago

      Fans like you who a) assume Cohen has infinite money (he doesn’t) and b) having a lot of money makes it okay to spend that money recklessly are the worst. As much as I love Pete, the Mets are under no obligation to pay him for past performance. Because we all know the cliff is coming during his next contract.

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    • JohnnyUtahSmells

      6 months ago

      Provide even one source that Cohen has been “bragging about how much money he has” and I’ll eat my hat.

      Also, you misspelled the name of the player that is written 342 times in this very article you probably didn’t read.

      Also how is he a phony? Are you suggesting he’s John Spano and not actually rich?
      Does he need to overpay Pete AlonSo before you believe he’s rich?

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  6. Salzilla

    6 months ago

    Welp, big L for the Mets. Cohen needed his Soto flex in spite of a franchise icon. Ooof. No matter how they shore this up, it’s still nasty business. Like I said in the Pete poll, Alonso deserves some blame, too, but this is moreso on the Mets.

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    • YourDreamGM

      6 months ago

      They can move someone to 1b. Trade for 1b. Not a big deal for Mets. Lots of free agent 1b next year.

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      • Salzilla

        6 months ago

        Not really the point, though?

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        • YourDreamGM

          6 months ago

          It is the point. They offered him contract he rejected he is easily replaced. He’s more of just a guy than a super star. No one cares. They got Soto now. Pete should have taken the $. Time to move on.

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        • Salzilla

          6 months ago

          Sad state of fandom there on display.

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    • 86mets

      6 months ago

      I would hardly call Alonso a franchise icon other than a couple big HR years. An icon is more Wright, Beltran, Seaver, Piazza, Hernandez, Strawberry and Gooden. The offer they made for 6/158 would have been an overpay. Kudos to Stearns for offering no more than 3 years.

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      • Salzilla

        6 months ago

        He basically carried your team for years. Come on now.

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    • Say Hey Now Kid

      6 months ago

      Salzilla, I’m with you on this. I miss baseball lifers. Pete is the one I hoped would be the lifer for my team. It’s a business though… can’t fight it

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      6 months ago

      Soto is likely going to end up in the HOF donning a Mets cap. Alonso has an outside chance. Soto has his prime years ahead of him so the flex was appropriate. Nobody is talking about David Wright anymore with Lindor onboard. I think this is what Mets fan will remember. The Mets gave Alonso the chance to forgo free agency so I don’t think this is on the Mets.

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      • rct

        6 months ago

        “Alonso has an outside chance.”

        I don’t think he does unless he hits 500 HR. He’s not even halfway there yet and the days of him hitting 40+ HR may be over.

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          6 months ago

          I was being generous. He’s only at 20 WAR. The sole HOF argument that one can make is that he reached 500+ homeruns and even then it high debatable bc none of his other stats will shine. He needs an MVP and some postseason hardware to get closer.

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      • Gwynning

        6 months ago

        Agreed, YBC. Pete’s decision was, well, Pete’s alone.

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      • Dock_Elvis

        6 months ago

        Pete Alonso right now looks like a low obp Adam Dunn.

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        • Gwynning

          6 months ago

          Ouch, Dock. I retired my bats awhile ago but that still hurt me!

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          6 months ago

          “Get back on the horse, Gwynning! See you in S.T.”

          – Joey Gallo

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        • Gwynning

          6 months ago

          We can be the 2 yoots, Mr. Gallo.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          6 months ago

          Alonso on a 2 year deal I’m ok with. But if his bat slows you’re looking at a player with a .300obp strong enough to walk into 20-25. There’s a lot of players capable of those numbers.

          Just being realistic. The aging slugger isn’t a rare phenomenon. Mets should give him a short deal with incentives. All talk either goes too low or high on him. If he plays up and shows he’s not regressing…he can trigger the incentives, or maybe get a better deal.

          I just don’t see anyone getting stupid on him. Sometimes it’s best to just stay home.

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      • MRSHOWTIME

        6 months ago

        They got 2 HOFers on the roster.

        Lindor n Soto will both go in w Mutts caps on

        Who will be the 3rd ? Is he not wearing met blue yet ?

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        • Dock_Elvis

          6 months ago

          Probably Jays blue.

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        • Salzilla

          6 months ago

          Soto is opting out in 5 years, much luck.

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      • Salzilla

        6 months ago

        It’s on both as I detailed in the last Pete thread, but it’s the Mets that are turning their backs here ultimately.

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        • JoeBrady

          6 months ago

          So the person that offered the contract is the one turning their back, and not the one that rejected it?

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        • Salzilla

          6 months ago

          That contract is old news at this point. You can’t base new negotiations on past offers.

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        • Flyby

          6 months ago

          your right … so using any 1b comps from the past are out the door and this offseason the highest 1b contract is 3 / 60 and walker was worth more the last few years than alonso but being a mets fan we can be gracious and give him 3/60 with no opt outs as he was a met but in reality maybe he is worth 3/50 you know based on current comps.

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      Pete turned down a 6/137.5m extension from the Mets when it’s abundantly clear now that no one in baseball wants to come close to that figure.

      Pete could have been a Met for life, and got greedy. Cohen was more than generous when Eppler was here, but Pete was, yes, greedy.

      Greed combined with a thoroughgoing ignorance of your worth is why these things happen. The Mets went the extra mile, had their hand slapped away, and moved on.

      Every bit of this is on Pete.

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      • Salzilla

        6 months ago

        And I called that out on Pete and mostly Boras steering his guys wrong, but let’s not dance around that Stearns and Cohen has his eyes and more on Vlad and treating Pete poorly here. There’s blame both ways, but the team (and y’all fans) should want one of your own back. I don’t see it for the most part and that sucks to see as a fan of baseball I’m general.

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        • YourDreamGM

          6 months ago

          Mets fans liked Pete so much that Cohen had to spend 800m to sell some freaking tickets. He’s just a guy. More than a guy at one point but gms don’t care about past stats anymore. Well the ones who signed Boegarts Bryant Baez do but ones that matter don’t. As seen by all the other 1b signings and trades only Pete and Boras think he something special.

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          If Pete was worth it I’d be with you. He’s not. His decline is as steep as it is obvious. You don’t sign one-dimensional greedhead to absurd money for his modest one skill (a .459 SLG) just because in general having a player on your team his entire career is the Platonic ideal of a baseball player.

          When it was warranted the Mets did this with Nimmo, a 29 year old 5.4 fWAR CFer, a position of great scarcity, for 8/162m.

          With Pete, he’s a 2.1 fWAR 29 year old (ie 40% of Nimmo’s value) at a position where there’s a glut of 2-win players, yet he wanted much more total money. It was ridiculous greed. He embarrassed himself badly, never mind his various buffoonery over the years hardly makes him the kind of solid citizen you want on your team until the inevitable bitter end.

          And say the Mets offered Pete about what he’s worth: 3/60m. When he continues to decline and the Mets have to let him go before he’s ready to retire, what’s the rhetoric then? “We have to sign him again because it’s good when players can play with one team their entire careers”?

          A team simply cannot operate that way.

          As for Vlad Jr, that’s been described as nothing more than touching base in at least two outlets. The Mets aren’t trading for him, especially not when the Jays asking price treats him as a solid 6 win player, which he clearly isn’t—but there’s no harm checking in when you’re never signing Alonso in any case.

          They aren’t bringing him back, when that would have been the low road, the easy road for the team to take. Good for Stearns.

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        • JoeBrady

          6 months ago

          The Mets offered Alonso more money than anyone else will. What more are they supposed to do?

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        • Salzilla

          6 months ago

          There’s absolutely zero way to predict the future and trying to do so is a fools errand. It’s also a convenient way to be cheap.

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        • Salzilla

          6 months ago

          I’ll be curious to see what they WILL do that’s for sure.

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        • YourDreamGM

          6 months ago

          I predict the future all the time.

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  7. ❤️ MuteButton

    6 months ago

    Wow, this thing got all Boras’d up!

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  8. hllywdjff

    6 months ago

    Mariners?

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    • MRSHOWTIME

      6 months ago

      They need a big bat in the big way but are cheap so it’s going to be difficult to see the fit

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      • JackStrawb

        6 months ago

        They recognize Pete’s no longer a big bat and will decline even more visibly in Seattle’s park.

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        • PhilliesFan91

          6 months ago

          I think Alonso might end up with the Angels or Seattle. My team for him was Washington but they traded for Lowe. Maybe the rangers sign him

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    • solaris602

      6 months ago

      Mariners have the biggest need for him, but they’re not paying anybody anything these days. Best they’ll do is a short term with opt out if that. M’s crying poverty for whatever reason.

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  9. RotiniRick

    6 months ago

    Still time to change your vote in the poll

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    • Gwynning

      6 months ago

      I voted “somebody else” with about 2 other people lol

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      • Brew88

        6 months ago

        I was one of the other two that you joined

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        • Gwynning

          6 months ago

          Great minds, something… something… idk.

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  10. VA/NC Orioles

    6 months ago

    Wouldn’t mind that mystery team being the Orioles. O’s could use him and rotate 1b/dh with him. I love Mountcastle and think he’s a good team guy but he is very streaky and hasn’t shown up when it matters most.

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    • Gwynning

      6 months ago

      Trade Mounty and International dollars for…? Hit us upppppp!

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    • Niekro floater

      6 months ago

      There’s no mystery team w/bags of money, that is Boras 101. Trying to get owner’s to bid against themselves.

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  11. BrianCashmansBurner

    6 months ago

    The third unidentified team is the Dodgers who will give him 7/$210mm, but defer all the payments into $100/year installments starting in 2040

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    • MRSHOWTIME

      6 months ago

      He’s not a dodger type of player

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    • differentbears

      6 months ago

      They’d have to defer his playing time until something like 2028, since they have a full time DH and Freddie Freeman at 1B for quite sometime.

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    • SF6sparky

      6 months ago

      Looks like a couple guys misunderstood your comment

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  12. norcalblue

    6 months ago

    actually, the Mets appear NOT to be “blinking”.

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    • Gwynning

      6 months ago

      Fun fact: Mr. Met never blinks.

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  13. johncoltrane

    6 months ago

    Mets declined alonso even on a short term deal? Even after he hit a monumental postseason HR? I just dont get it. 2-3 yrs was too much to bring back a franchise icon? Unless they trade for vladdy tomorrow this makes no sense

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    • dugmet

      6 months ago

      2-3 years at what salary and what other terms and conditions?

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      • Buckner

        6 months ago

        Yes, and (nearly) double that — due to the luxury tax. I know they just busted open the bank for Soto, but this becomes VERY expensive for signing Chris Davis. I mean, Alonso.

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    • slider32

      6 months ago

      Mets appear to be looking to get Vlady in a trade or next year!

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  14. YourDreamGM

    6 months ago

    Still room for Pete if he moves drastically. Winker don’t play 1b. Pete wasn’t playing dh.

    Good news in Toronto dollars he can get close to that 158m he turned down.

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  15. pando8888

    6 months ago

    This is a Mets ploy! 100% he is a Met or they are a bunch of scumbags treating their own like crap and giving Soto a suite, premium seats and security!

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    • YourDreamGM

      6 months ago

      Soto is projected to sell tickets. Obviously if Pete did they wouldn’t have given Soto so much.

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    • stymeedone

      6 months ago

      When Pete elected FA, he became NOT one of their own. So why should the Mets treat him like he is?

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    • JohnnyUtahSmells

      6 months ago

      Pando
      Are ALL MLB teams that refuse to overpay Pete Alonso scumbags or just the Mets?

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  16. Bob Sacamano 310

    6 months ago

    Blue Jays? To DH? Man they still need some lefty hitting.

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  17. SupremeZeus

    6 months ago

    Stearns be like Pete who?

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  18. cplwhite

    6 months ago

    The 3rd team is the Dodgers ….lol

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  19. thecheddahbob

    6 months ago

    Best news would be hearing him sign elsewhere. I’ve been saying the Mets need to move him his entire career. Saying that one tool power hitters age like milk would be offensive to milk. Both Chris Davis and Ryan Howard were the most dangerous power hitters in baseball at age 29 and paperweights by age 32. When you rely on 40-60 swings for your value and your bat speed falls off, those 40-60 swings become 20-30 swings and with no other tools you’re just a giant hole in the lineup

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    • Say Hey Now Kid

      6 months ago

      Cheddahbob, are Davis and Howard good comps though? Davis only had the one elite year. Howard was not the same kind of hitter and his body broke down (not saying that can’t happen to Alonso though)

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      • JackStrawb

        6 months ago

        It’s true–Howard was a far, far better hitter. In the four seasons before their age 30 seasons.

        Howard 145 OPS, .278/379/589, 50 HR, 143 RBI
        Alonso 131 OPS, .248/.336/499, 39 HR, 108 RBI

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  20. mpwr2

    6 months ago

    That’s not the club blinking, that’s the club signaling to Alonso that he needs to lower his asking price.

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    • Trotski

      6 months ago

      Correct, the author does not know the definition of someone blinking in negotiation

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      It’s the club telling Alonso to go away.

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  21. Fernando P

    6 months ago

    Stop the silliness. I thought Uncle Steve wasn’t going to get outbid. How do you get outbid when no one else is bidding on Alonso?

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    • YourDreamGM

      6 months ago

      He didn’t get out bid

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    • DroppedThirdStrike

      6 months ago

      He can only outbid himself at this point

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    • JohnnyUtahSmells

      6 months ago

      He’s the only one bidding so please explain how he was outbid. I’ll hang up and listen thanks.

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      • Fernando P

        6 months ago

        @Johnny – I was laughing at Met fans who say Uncle Steve won’t get outbid for anyone.

        No one else bidding for Alonso and they can’t or won’t close the deal for a homegrown player. Sign him already especially after you signed Soto.

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    • User 4014041831

      6 months ago

      There will be plenty of players that will have reasons to play elsewhere where the money is almost the same, geographical location, family issues, teams with better chance to win a WS and maybe taxes issue

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  22. CarverAndrews

    6 months ago

    As a Phillies fan, I was really worried when Cohen bought the team from the bumbling Wilpons, as it had been nice to be able to rely upon their general incompetence as an organization for quite a long time.

    I still worry, as Daddy Warbucks can outspend just about anyone, but the early returns are mixed for sure. Creating a sound organization takes a lot of work, and it just might be that Cohen could end up being closer to the Jerry Jones type of ego-driven ownership rather than the professional ownership of the Dodgers.

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    • ChuckyNJ

      6 months ago

      More accurately, closer to the style of George Steinbrenner.

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    • JohnnyUtahSmells

      6 months ago

      How are the returns mixed?
      We’re in on every possible free agent for the first time since I’ve been alive, we made playoffs 2 out of last 3 years incl smacking your phils last year, we dramatically increased our prospect pool and signed Juan Soto for 15 years

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      Imagine the 2024 Mets with Cohen still playing GM and Eppler as his assistant.

      And Soto at $765m? That wasn’t Stearns’ idea.

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    • User 4014041831

      6 months ago

      One of the problems with NYM in the Cohen era is also they didn’t have a good GM and or too much changeover. They had tried to bring Theo Epstein in as POBO for a couple of years

      Their first year I think they didn’t want to get ripped off but they have to have the good judgement to stretch a little for an impact player especially when they have a gaping need and the timing is right

      The first year they should have paid up to get Realmuto and Springer.
      Originally I think Realmuto was asking for 200M and you saw what happened. They signed James McCann who only had 1 good year and PHI signed Realmuto

      With Springer it came down to them and TOR. He is from the CT area.
      They offered like 125M and TOR paid up to 150M.
      Springers results I think would have been better if he was not playing on astroturf over concrete.

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  23. padam

    6 months ago

    Mystery team = Reds. That’s my guess. First base is sort of open and they came into some money.

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    • Rsox

      6 months ago

      They are a definite possibility. However i think Alonso is stuck waiting for Bregman to sign so Boras could take Alonso (say Bregman signs with the Blue Jays or Cubs) to the Red Sox or Tigers as a consolation prize

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    • User 4014041831

      6 months ago

      Could be LAA, TOR, SF, MIL (Hoskins gets traded) and CIN

      Longshots DET, PIT, TB (Yandy gets traded maybe)

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      • Rsox

        6 months ago

        If the Rays trade Yandy they aren’t going to spend on Alonso, that’s not the Rays way

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        • PhilliesFan91

          6 months ago

          That’s the one thing that the rays are missing , a big power bat

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        • User 4014041831

          6 months ago

          That’s why I put it under longshots

          He is from Tampa FL.
          I thought on a short term contract they might

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    • MRSHOWTIME

      6 months ago

      Good move for the Bear to go to GABP for 1 year and feast on NL central pitching in the wonderful hitters park.

      If he somehow puts up a better slash line of .245/.339/.490 w close to 50 bombs

      Someone will offer him a multi year deal esp w QO gone

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    • Armaments216

      6 months ago

      Even if the Reds were willing to pay for a year of Alonso, which I doubt, they’d also need to give up a draft pick since they’d be signing a player who rejected a QO. And draft picks are like gold to frugal small market teams like Cincy.

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  24. It’s

    6 months ago

    4 years @80 mill seems like the perfect offer for both sides here.

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    • JohnnyUtahSmells

      6 months ago

      Thats too many years for a guy who is showing signs of decline for 2 consecutive seasons

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  25. bobbyvwannabe

    6 months ago

    Pete is making/going to make a TREMENDOUS mistake leaving the Mets. But, it’s his decision and he obviously wants his money very much so. Especially if he wants to hold on to that adorable wifey of his.

    His long term financial outlook by staying a Met for life is much greater than going to play for a bottom dweller (e.g. Angels)

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  26. Benjamin101677

    6 months ago

    If I was Alonso and going the a short contract I would not go back to the Mets. He is a known product there and if the Mets don’t want to spend for him now they won’t to spend for him later.

    Go to a new team show what you can do for an offensive with that 40 home run potential. His presence in the line up is worth more than the Mets realize.

    Let the Mets realize that without Alonso; Soto not going have that protection in the Mets lineup.

    As the Mets stand now if I was a team I would pitch around Soto make someone else come through

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    • Rsox

      6 months ago

      Soto hitting 2nd and Lindor hitting 3rd is still pretty good

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    • User 4014041831

      6 months ago

      The addition of a healthy Mauricio, Acuna and Baty (the least 2 in a part time role would be a big boost to the NYM offense)
      They will add one other semi major addition at 1B or 3B
      More likely a 1B because potentially they have better candidates for 3B in the law firm of Vientos, Baty and Mauricio and maybe Iglesias.

      One of Yandy Diaz, Arenado, Hoskins, Torkelson, Mountcastle, O’Hearn, Casas, Wade Jr

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    • Hurricane Sandy

      6 months ago

      This is not an anti-Alonso sentiment as I love the guy, but this entire regular season was about as not clutch as you can get. I work with a bunch of Mets fans and we would come in every day just completely at a loss on his performance this year and how every single day he would not come through in the clutch – not even a sac fly in a big spot, just chasing garbage.

      Sure, personally I think he was putting too much pressure on himself, but isn’t that part of the calculus? When I think of the Protection that we ultimately need to provide Juan Soto, his performance this year just didn’t convince me he’s the guy to go all out on.

      Keep in mind that our other cornerstone player, Lindor has already shown he really isn’t a middle of the order player, and he was never “himself” as a Met unless he was batting early in the lineup so we need to choose wisely who we invest in to be that guy.

      Again, I love Alonso but looking at things rationally, I’d put money on Mark Vientos and maybe even Alvarez down the line being better producers in the years to come. Just not worth a crazy investment.

      Alonso has his place in Mets lore to be sure, but when you go with Boras, this is basically what you’re asking for. I wish him the best and for his sake I hope he has us all missing him. See you on Old Timer’s Day guy!

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      • Ma4170

        6 months ago

        I dont think vientos hitting behind soto will be much fall off from pete. I do think people have begun to undervalue him though and the mets will miss that power. He was basically a lock for 40/100 and 800-850 ops until last year. Thats not as easy to find as some are implying. He may not age well from here so i dont mind them walking away, but replacing his run production is another story.

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    • kodion

      6 months ago

      Benjamin101677

      Minimal impact on Soto. His bat is elite with or without protection. Better with, of course, but you are talking about the difference between Alonzo and whoever bats behind Soto in his place, not a vacuum.

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  27. padam

    6 months ago

    This makes me happy.

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  28. Rsox

    6 months ago

    The Mets don’t “expect” Alonso to sign elsewhere as he and Boras have been camped out on Stearn’s lawn since the offseason began. They are hoping that by re-signing Winker that Boras will take the hint and shop his client elsewhere

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  29. Yanks4life22

    6 months ago

    Orioles could be a nice place for a one year rebound. Texas maybe? They love them some lumberjack type power hitters.

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  30. burn0820

    6 months ago

    How does no one see this is being leaked by the Mets get him to sign. They want him to call their bluff and he has no market, no matter what Boras says. He’s going to fold and take whatever it is they offer. Similar reports happened 2 years ago with Nimmo and then he signed

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    • Big whiffa

      6 months ago

      It’s literally what the first comment said and it has some 40 likes. Maybe read prior comments before posting ??

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  31. James Midway

    6 months ago

    They expect him to sign elsewhere? Where?

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    • Gwynning

      6 months ago

      Rent-a-Polar-Bear this season at the San Diego Zoo and Safari Park…and Petco?!?!?

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      • Brew88

        6 months ago

        Yeah, his nickname would be a fav in SD

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      • James Midway

        6 months ago

        I think he could get acquainted with the Western Metal building.

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        • Gwynning

          6 months ago

          The Higgy Bank needs a new handle…
          The Bear’s Brickhouse? Uh that’s bad, let’s call it a work in progress…

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        • Brew88

          6 months ago

          I know folks at the SD Zoo and will present ideas. could bring the real bears to Petco to play with Pete, would top Bark in the Park Day, or we could combine for effect…. go with Zappa theme invite his Moon Unit to sing on Yellow Snow Day, ~ “At Pete Alonzo’s pancake breakfast, where I stole the mar-juh-reen…”
          “Pete Alonzo”
          “Pete Alonzo”
          “Pete Alonzo”
          “St Alfonzo”
          “Oo-ooo-Wah”
          Etc,

          These are the perks AJP should be on phonzo now
          …

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        • Gwynning

          6 months ago

          1 unchained polar bear per dugout sounds fun… but cancel the idea if we don’t get Pete!

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        • User 4014041831

          6 months ago

          Coca-Cola porch “The Igloo” and marketing tie ins

          Yogi Bear, Kung Fu Panda Smokey the Bear 7th Inning race like in Wash DC or MIL sausages race

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    • Tomas7

      6 months ago

      Sacramento A’s

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  32. Cash-Man-NY

    6 months ago

    Ben Rice & Stroman for McNeil

    Mets get a 1st baseman / pitcher
    Yankees shore up their infield

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    • jk2me1310

      6 months ago

      lol zero chance of the Mets wanting him back

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      • YankeesBleacherCreature

        6 months ago

        Both teams would be insulting one another if that offer ever came to fruition.

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    • Fernando P

      6 months ago

      @Cash – No thanks, don’t even want McNeil even up for Stroman. Salaries almost the same if Stroman opts in and McNeil is bought out.

      No need to add anyone else. Plus 2nd basemen in their 30’s isn’t a very successful demographic.

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  33. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    6 months ago

    You knew the divorce was coming!!!!!

    That’s fine, because now there is a chance for him to land in Bird-Land!!!

    I would be happy!!!

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    • User 4014041831

      6 months ago

      Would most BAL be in favor depending on the details of course

      What ever Years and Total $.

      I think I’d rather have Mountcastle, O’Hearn and one of their young stars

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  34. die defunctorum

    6 months ago

    I wonder if Mets would consider Vientos at 1B and trade for Arenado?… not that they should necessarily but Arenado’s shorter term remaining contract and his still very useful defense and although declining still decent offense might be better than in house options for now.

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      @die defunctorum Arenado’s not the answer. He’d make an old team even older, and deprive the Mets of the one slot on the diamond where their young guys can produce for almost nothing in salary.

      At best the Cardinals would eat only 20% of Arenado’s salary, leaving the Mets on the hook for around 3/60m.

      2025 projections, fangraphs:

      3B Arenado 2.5 fWAR in 150 games, 20m
      3B Baty 2.0 fWAR in 501 PA $1m
      3B Mauricio 0.5 fWAR in 147 PA $900k

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      • die defunctorum

        6 months ago

        @JackStrawb – Ok, that’s a fair estimate. Although I may have misunderstood how much of Arenado’s salary the Cards are paying. When i look at baseball-reference it looks like his future salaries combined are $74M but the Rockies eat $10M dropping the Cards share to $64M. If they did eat 20% that would leave the Mets share at just over $51M for three years. Also, not sure if Baty will achieve that WAR but it’s certainly possible. I just thought Arenado was a better bet but maybe not.

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          @die defunctorum Good point about the Rockies. I should have been clearer, that the Cardinals aren’t going to eat any more money than it takes to get Arenado down to the 3/60m they appear to believe he’s worth.

          They’re not entirely wrong. A 2.5 fWAR player is typically worth a $15-22m AAV on a 3 year deal in FA at one of the semi-premium positons (RF, 3B, 2B)

          You can argue his decline has been rapid and he might fall off the cliff quickly, but at the same time he’s a HOFer who put up a remarkable 8 wins in 2022, so if he bounces back even a little he might deliver a 3 to 5 win season in 2025.

          Still, his projection in most systems of a 2.5 fWAR season in 2025 seems right, so it depends on where you think the Mets are. Are they close enough to the 3rd wildcard or to winning the division that you’re willing to pay a premium to lock in those 2-3 wins you think Arenado is more likely to deliver (if that’s the case here) than the two young players who have yet to succeed in MLB? There’s a lot to be said for that, and if the Mets could get Arenado for one year, they might well decide he’s worth the 20m investment. Three years, though, blocking the likeliest route for young players, that’s a lot more for them to give up.

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  35. Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

    6 months ago

    Which team is going to give up one or two draft picks for a one year rental of Pete? Three years and no opt-out and a limited NTC? He might get a bite then.

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    • Gwynning

      6 months ago

      Good point. I forgot about the QO and got too excited.

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  36. mad1

    6 months ago

    Mystery team..

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  37. Fred2023

    6 months ago

    “The Mets and Pete Alonso have been in a stare down for a while but it seems the club is blinking.” You have this backwards. Holding one’s position and looking at alternatives is not “blinking.” Caving in to the player’s offer is blinking. On the other hand, you can get 25-35 HR at 1b a lot cheaper than $30M/yr. too.

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  38. johncoltrane

    6 months ago

    Pete got 7yr 158 mil offer before boras
    Cant even get short term agrmnt after boras
    Hmmm

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  39. SadHaloFan95

    6 months ago

    This has Arte Moreno written all over it…. Pain

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  40. Well Hung

    6 months ago

    If Pete is a free agent again next year, he will have 1 year contracts for the rest of his playing career

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  41. PsychologyVan

    6 months ago

    I understand that Alonso’s upside, especially on a long-term deal, is not great, but the 3-year deal with opts out seemed reasonable enough and would have put the Mets in a great position to compete. Even with the Soto signing, I don’t think the Mest can compete against teams like the Dodgers unless they sign another star like Bregman. I refused to feel positive about a team that is throwing Baty in at 3rd

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    • SomTeaver

      6 months ago

      The 3-year deal is only reasonable if the AAV is low enough. Especially if the opt outs are only for Pete.

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    • Fred2023

      6 months ago

      What were you saying about Vientos last year?

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  42. foppert3

    6 months ago

    Ha ha.Mets are giving Boras a bit of Boras.

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  43. Bobcastelliniscat

    6 months ago

    I wish the Reds would sign him.

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    • Big whiffa

      6 months ago

      They already gave up one pick so it wouldn’t hurt as bad. Then they wouldn’t have to pay the signing bonus on the next pic they gave up either

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  44. Skyrider123

    6 months ago

    Heard a guy on Atlanta radio suggest the Braves sign Pete to a 4-5 year deal as a DH and and slot Ozuna in the outfield. This guy suggested that the Braves wont be able to afford Ozuna next season and having Ozuna in the outfield this season cant be worse than trying Soler there last season. I’ve heard crazier ideas.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      6 months ago

      Wouldn’t that money be better spent replacing Fried’s and Morton’s innings while hoping for offense to rebound from injuries?

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      • Skyrider123

        6 months ago

        As a Braves fan, absolutely!!! However, Im thinking the Braves are just going to ride with what they have until they see what Strider has.

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      Why do people even think Alonso’s going to be in baseball in 4-5 years?

      “Ozuna has been great at DH. Let’s see if we can’t get him hurt playing bad defense in the OF!”

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  45. wallabeechamp

    6 months ago

    This is a total flex by Cohen.
    “Oh, you called the Athletic and said Pete’s got a strong market, Scott?”
    “Nancy, call SNY and tell them I(!) think Pete’s going to HAVE TO sign elsewhere.”
    lol

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  46. Big Poison

    6 months ago

    Sources say he will sign with the Pirates on a 1-year deal.

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    • MRSHOWTIME

      6 months ago

      He would go to Oakland of some team w a hitters park before going to the pirates.

      Yes I know your joking, but it would be nice for the Pirates to have a legit middle of the order bat to go w all that pitching

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      • JackStrawb

        6 months ago

        We were talking about Alonso.

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      • SF6sparky

        6 months ago

        Are you saying Oakland is a hitters’ park?

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        • differentbears

          6 months ago

          If you keep it fair in Oakland you can circle the bases at your leisure.

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  47. cwizzy6

    6 months ago

    Welcome to the Milwaukee Brewers.

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  48. HalosHeavenJJ

    6 months ago

    I have a really bad feeling Arte is going to go full Arte again and sign Alonso.

    Nothing against Pete, but he’s nowhere near enough to make us competitive and the 46th overall pick is tough for me to give up.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      6 months ago

      That’s only half Arte. Full Arte is signing Alonso and giving Tanner Scott four years and then dumping him along with prospects next season bc the lack of saves opportunities doesn’t justify his salary.

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    • die defunctorum

      6 months ago

      Aaaaaaaaa.!!!!! Arte don’t do it! Perry take away Arte’s phone or at least block Boras! Remind Arte about Rendon(e) again and again and again!

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      • HalosHeavenJJ

        6 months ago

        Perry should put pictures of Rendon, Hamilton, Pujols, Wells, Harvey, and Matthews Jr. in Arte’s office and bedroom.

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        • die defunctorum

          6 months ago

          Yes!… ummm, no wait. I can see Arte waking up thinking “Ya know I miss these guys! Maybe they would come out of retirement… even Rendon(e)… I thought I signed him but I hardly ever see him… I wonder where he is these days??”

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      • MRSHOWTIME

        6 months ago

        Scott would look good in angel red whether u guys like it or not

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        • YankeesBleacherCreature

          6 months ago

          Agreed but the Angels will need quality innings first in the front end to make him look even better in red.

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          6 months ago

          I really like Scott. He’d be a great addition on a competitive club.

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        • die defunctorum

          6 months ago

          Cohen should open his wallet for Scott. He’s like kryptonite for Ohtani. Pairing him with Diaz makes a very formidable closer tag team.

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    • SadHaloFan95

      6 months ago

      Reports out there say Angels and Pete were talking 2 years 50 mil but one side rejected the offer. They have been actively trying which hurts

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  49. Never Remember

    6 months ago

    Good move for Mets if true. Good the Blue jays needed something after losing out on Sasaki

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  50. meckert

    6 months ago

    This clears the way for Keith Hernandez to come out of retirement.

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    • MRSHOWTIME

      6 months ago

      He’s really good in super mega baseball. He’s the MVP of my legends squad

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  51. mrmackey

    6 months ago

    They blinked, and then they winked. Still seems like they could bring Alonso back to me.

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  52. Redwolves3

    6 months ago

    At this point Boras is going to have to pull a rabbit out of his hat. If Mets do walk away & go in a different direction Alonso (and Boras) have very few options left.

    I’m sure there are teams who might consider Alonso but at what cost – certainly not at what Boras & Alonso want.

    Hope Bregman is keeping a close eye on how Alonso’s FA has been going bc it appears he’s going down the same path. Especially since Bregman says he’s not considering short term deal.

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    • MRSHOWTIME

      6 months ago

      Jays might for Vlad insurance

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    • Seamaholic

      6 months ago

      There are plenty of teams. Mets fans are fooling themselves if they think he’s coming back with hat in hand. In fact the Mets front office doesn’t want to sign him. Simple reality.

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  53. LFGSD619

    6 months ago

    Should have manipulated his service time when he first came up.

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      It was the one thing the Wilpon Mets did that wasn’t a pathetic joke.

      Granted, they did it in hopes of pumping up franchise value on their way to selling the team, but at the time it seemed honorable.

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      • LFGSD619

        6 months ago

        How exactly does throwing an extra year of control into the garbage “pump up franchise value?” Wouldn’t the new owner like to control Alonso for 2025? It certainly couldn’t hurt because arb years don’t have buyouts.

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  54. bestone

    6 months ago

    Rumour has it that he’s currently getting outfitted for snowshoes…

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  55. Teamspirit

    6 months ago

    If there was going to be a deal, it would have been done by now. I think Pete is going to regret not coming back to the Mets when he had the chance. I wish the Mets would sign Bregman for third and Vientos going to first.

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  56. Joemo

    6 months ago

    Alonso and Bregman taking the Snell and Montgomery route of last off-season?

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  57. Coach Tucci

    6 months ago

    I lived through the Dave Kingman years. Don’t need to do it again. If he wanted to be a Mets player he would’ve accepted the deal offered last year. It’s not about being loyal to players from your farm system, it’s about winning!!

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    • JackStrawb

      6 months ago

      Ideally it’s about both, but it was Alonso who threw this one away. Had he signed in 2023-2024 the Mets would be stuck with him. They dodged a bullet, and here we are.

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  58. THEY LIVE!!!

    6 months ago

    It would be funny if Alonso went to Japan, seriously.

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    • Tomas7

      6 months ago

      How about Korea or Sacramento?

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  59. JoeBrady

    6 months ago

    The 5th Alonso article since 1/9.

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  60. toptimrubies

    6 months ago

    Honestly the Mets would probably be better off with Vientos at 1B and Baty at 3B. I don’t think Stearns is the type to make a sentimental signing for a marginal upgrade.

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    • Seamaholic

      6 months ago

      This. Or acquire a league average 3B somewhere with Baty as bait, which seems doable.

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    • Lalo says show me

      6 months ago

      Better from what perspective?
      I’m not arguing, I’m just asking.
      I’m not saying that’s not true, but I think there’s a big assumption vientos can play a competent 1b or that baty can actually hit major league pitching.
      Financially it would be fantastic if that scenario panned out (or Mauricio or acuna could play 3b), but I have my doubts.
      I also think Pete could benefit from having Soto hit in front of him and he lengthens that lineup.
      After lindor Soto vientos the lineup takes a huge dip with the likes of Nimmo Alvarez McNeil Siri Marte/Winker

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  61. stugots

    6 months ago

    Pete should’ve taken that offer last season 7yr and $157M. Snooze you Lose. Looking at teams that need a 1st basemen. There not going pay him $30M or so that he wants. Dodgers, Yankees and Cubs got the $ but they got plan in place. Really best place for him get most $ possible would be the Jays . Jays can trade Vlady to Mets.

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    • Seamaholic

      6 months ago

      Or Vlad can play 3rd. Missing the Giants, who are a very good fit. Ditto Angels, who can move Schanuel to the OF/DH.

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  62. Zippy the Pinhead

    6 months ago

    Signs with the Mariners on a 10 year/five million dollar (total) contract. There’s a rumor.

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  63. hammertime510

    6 months ago

    I think it’s the A’s – have a feeling maybe they’ll flip Soderstrom to the padres for Cease etc.

    Would be an instant WS contender with Alonso and Cease in tow

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    • Seamaholic

      6 months ago

      Would be a 90 loss team.

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  64. Acoss1331

    6 months ago

    Not a lot of teams where Pete can go. That week in December where a bunch of 1B got signed or traded to pretty much hurt his free agency. Mets aren’t going to outbid themselves.

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    • Seamaholic

      6 months ago

      There are teams. You should take this report – if it’s true of course – as the Mets saying they don’t want him. Pure and simple. It’s been obvious all along if you connect the dots, but the Mets apparently told a reporter the truth now, accidentally or not.

      And honestly, it’s a good call.

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      • Acoss1331

        6 months ago

        There are teams, I agree, just not many willing to pay the premium asking price. But yeah, I think Pete isn’t coming back to the Mets now. If that offer from a year ago is legitimate, Pete should have taken it in my opinion.

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        • PhilliesFan91

          6 months ago

          What if a team like Baltimore would come in out of nowhere

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      • JackStrawb

        6 months ago

        Pete’s finding out his real price is 3/50-60m. Nobody cares about the HR from 2019 when the ball was juiced.

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        • PhilliesFan91

          6 months ago

          Was he thinking he was gonna get a Freeman type deal?

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        • JackStrawb

          6 months ago

          Pete thought he was going to get a Judge-sized deal.

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  65. pepenas34

    6 months ago

    I thought that under the new CBT it was not allowed to tell the media “we are not after X agent”.
    With the 765MM mets paid to Soto they could have had Soto, Manea, Alonso (3 year deal), and a bullpen arm. At least 225MM over paid to Soto, and now they have to fill the rest of the team.

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    • Seamaholic

      6 months ago

      They didn’t say that.

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  66. Al Hirschen

    6 months ago

    Vladi wants to be Soto’s wingman. Make bank and ride shotgun right to the Hall of Fame.

    1
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    • kodion

      6 months ago

      LOL
      Vladdy as wingman?!?!

      Reply
    • PhilliesFan91

      6 months ago

      Vlad Jr might pull a like father like son , might sign with the angels

      Reply
      • Teamspirit

        6 months ago

        Wouldn’t that be something? I think it is.a fantasy, though I would be happy about it.

        Reply
        • PhilliesFan91

          6 months ago

          Harold Reyonlds said it on the MLB network the other day

          Reply
    • Silent Bob23

      6 months ago

      I have not been impressed with Vlad and would rather have Pete for 3 years than Vlad for 10 years. Vlad has had too many up and down seasons.

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      • Fred2023

        6 months ago

        In terms of apples and how far they fall from the tree, Vlad I and Vlad II appear to be very different. I see Vlad II turning into Prince Fielder.

        Reply
  67. Deckard

    6 months ago

    He’s a Met. I can’t imagine him elsewhere. just get it done.
    Toronto signing him makes absolutely no sense. If Guerrero is your guy, then just get it done.

    Reply
  68. Captainmike1

    6 months ago

    Such a greedy a-hole

    2
    Reply
  69. FrozenRopes

    6 months ago

    He should sign where he can hit bombs. Colorado, Toronto etc. Pump those numbers on a short term deal.

    1
    Reply
  70. 10centBeerNight

    6 months ago

    Hope Pete likes Tim Hortons

    Reply
    • whyhayzee

      6 months ago

      Who doesn’t? They’re great.

      Reply
  71. twinky

    6 months ago

    Twins will sign him…….

    Reply
  72. whyhayzee

    6 months ago

    Rich Gedman. Just stay on your damn team already. Fire your agent, swallow your ego, and get it done. Even Varitek told Boras he was staying with the Red Sox. And this is the team that lost Fisk on a stupid mistake.

    I don’t blame the Mets one bit. Alonso been sold a bill of goods by Boras.

    Reply
  73. SF6sparky

    6 months ago

    Alright Giants, overpay for two years

    2
    Reply
  74. OilCanLloyd

    6 months ago

    Jim Thome from age 30-39 hit 356 HR
    Similar dude. Just sayin.

    2
    Reply
    • OilCanLloyd

      6 months ago

      By age 29
      Thome 233 HR
      Alonzo 226 HR

      Think teams under value Pete and his potential.

      2
      Reply
  75. Silent Bob23

    6 months ago

    Sterns has no interest in Pete. When they hired Stearns it was obvious every time he was interviewed that he had little enthusiasm when speaking about Pete. What drives me crazy is Sterns penny pinching when he has the richest owner in baseball. Sterns probably didn’t;t want Soto either but Steve Cohen made it clear to get him. The pitching staff is a joke for next season and there is a lot less pop in the line up. The bullpen is a mess too. I want to believe in Sterns after we made the playoffs, but lightening never strikes twice in the same place!

    Reply
    • rjtfd

      6 months ago

      Cohen didn’t hire Stearns so he could spend like a drunk sailor. Just cause Cohen is one of the richest owners in baseball doesn’t mean he’s gonna spend like a fool. Stearns is a smart GM so trust the process.

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      Reply
      • Silent Bob23

        6 months ago

        Hey, I get it but when you spend all that money on Juan Soto who isn’t even a top 5 MLB player, and then you insult a homegrown player who has done nothing for the most part but produced for you, I think that is a problem. Sterns is a smart guy, but I think he let last season go to his head. HE got extremely lucky that things happened the way they did. The rotation this year though is not a competitive rotation that will bring your team into the playoffs. They don’t have a very strong line up and the bullpen is a joke. He should have met them at 75 million for three years with another ten million in incentives.

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  76. Mlbfan78

    6 months ago

    Outside of Soto, since Sterns took over the Mets really haven’t went after the big fish, content with smaller signings.
    I think Mets fans need to come back down to earth if they expect the team to sign a bunch of big names, cause Sterns hadn’t shown that’s something he wants to do outside of Soto that is.

    Reply
  77. zacknetofan

    6 months ago

    The Blue Jays are always finalists for a free agent they aren’t going to sign him

    Reply
  78. Nick W

    6 months ago

    Yankees get him to DH at the right price. Trade Stanton to the Angels for Trout it sends both players to where they’re from. Gives Trout a shot at playoffs at this point in his career. The Angels would have to eat some money in the deal.

    Reply
    • whyhayzee

      6 months ago

      Trout would never swim to a ship organization like the Yankees.

      Reply
  79. JackStrawb

    6 months ago

    “FanGraphs considered [Alonso] to be worth 2.1 wins above replacement last year, a solid but not elite number. There were 119 position players who were at 2.2 fWAR or higher last year.”
    ——————————————

    2024:
    Jesse Winker 2.0 bWAR – 1/$8m
    Pete Alonso 2.6 bWAR – asking 3/$90m

    Such a tough call.

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  80. SportsFan0000

    6 months ago

    Alonzo and Bregman could be good fits for short-term deals
    for the the A’s and Marlins
    (2 teams that need to spend some money or lose their revenue sharing).
    t
    27-30M for 3 or 4 years with opt outs after years 1, 2, 3.
    (for each player).

    Reply
  81. Friscored

    6 months ago

    What gives teams pause is Alonso’s increasing strikeout rate over the last three years; 128/151;/172. This is along with a reduction in RBIs from. 131/118/88. As a Giants fan who sees a need for an impact bat at 1B/DH/OF, I think he’s worth 3yrs @$75-80M with opt outs. I love the Adames signing and I’m OK with giving Verlander a shot, but the Gmen can’t settle with mediocrity in the starting rotation or 1B/DH/OF.

    1
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    • Mets fan who wants Pete back

      6 months ago

      I agree that his strikeouts have been on a rise but his rookie year when he hit 50+ home runs, he struck out over 180 times. I’m not excusing it but our lineup looks a lot better with him in it than with him out of it. I think why not do a short term deal with opt outs and the sprinkle in performance incentives. He is an important part of the team and the clubhouse. The fans for the most part want him back. They need to get it together and make a deal.

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      Reply
  82. BannedMarlinsFanBase

    6 months ago

    Where’s @MetsSchmets?

    Reply
  83. Manks/Yets

    6 months ago

    Check please!

    Reply
  84. GooseGoslinGuy

    6 months ago

    Love watching the Ken Rosenthal Memorial Fantasy League play amongst themselves.

    Reply

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