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Cardinals, Astros Again Discussing Nolan Arenado Trade

By Mark Polishuk | February 22, 2025 at 4:03pm CDT

4:03PM: While that Mozeliak initially declined to comment on any potential new trade talks or the possibility of Arenado approving a deal (as noted by Denton), he later told reporters (including Derrick Goold of the St. Louis Post-Dispatch) that he “does not feel like anything is imminent” regarding Arenado and that nothing has changed since the veteran third baseman reported to camp.

1:16PM: Nolan Arenado used his no-trade clause to veto a proposed trade to the Astros back in December, which seemingly ended the third baseman’s chances of going to Houston once the Astros pivoted to then add Christian Walker to their infield mix.  However, just as it seemed the Cardinals’ chances of dealing Arenado this offseason had run out, St. Louis and Houston have re-engaged on a new set of talks on an Arenado trade, according to MLB.com’s Brian McTaggart, Mark Feinsand, and John Denton.

It would be quite a wild conclusion to one of the offseason’s top storylines if Arenado ended up in an Astros uniform after all, yet Houston’s increased willingness to move Jose Altuve from second base to left field may have created an opening for these fresh negotiations between the Astros and Cardinals.  Arenado would take over from Isaac Paredes at third base, with Paredes then moving to Altuve’s old spot at second base.  Reports of Altuve’s willingness to play left field emerged when the Astros were exploring the idea of re-signing Alex Bregman, and Altuve has been hard at work doing outfield drills in the early stages of Spring Training.

Astros manager Joe Espada has yet to make any firm statements about Altuve’s readiness as a left fielder, as Espada told reporters (including Matt Kawahara of the Houston Chronicle) that it will still be another week before Altuve lines up in the outfield during spring game action.  Still, it could be a sign of the Astros’ comfort level in Altuve’s outfield capability that the team is again looking into the possibility of an Arenado deal.

The ball is ultimately in Arenado’s court due to his no-trade protection, yet Houston was one of the five teams that Arenado told the Cardinals front office he was open to joining.  The fact that Arenado rejected the earlier trade to Houston seems to have been just a matter of timing, as the offer apparently came just after the Astros dealt Kyle Tucker to the Cubs, and Arenado wanted a bit more time to evaluate the situation.  Rather than continue to wait out Arenado’s decision, the Astros instead went out and signed Walker to a three-year, $60MM deal, which seemed to reinforce Walker and Paredes as the team’s new corner infield combo.

Houston was willing to disrupt that new status quo if it meant re-signing its longtime third baseman in Bregman, however, and the same could be true here if the Astros and Cardinals can find common ground on a trade, and if Arenado this time green-lights the proceedings.  By the same measure, the Astros were willing to stretch their budget to accommodate Bregman’s return, and the same would have to be true if Arenado’s contract is acquired.  Arenado is owed $74MM over the next three seasons, though that number is really $60MM when factoring in deferrals and the $10MM covered by the Rockies as per the terms of the original trade that sent Arenado from Colorado to St. Louis in the 2020-21 offseason.

In the previous trade offer, the Astros would have taken on $40MM-$45MM of Arenado’s still-owed salary, with the Cards eating the rest.  It isn’t known if any type of significant prospects might have been included as well, but it could be that Houston was offering just a minimal player return since the Cardinals’ top priority was moving as much of Arenado’s salary as possible off the team’s books.  Speculatively speaking, the Astros could be looking to still land Arenado but with the Cardinals absorbing a larger portion of the salary, perhaps leveraging the fact that the Cards are short on alternative options if they want to move Arenado at all.

Trading Arenado and gaining this salary relief has been the chief goal of the St. Louis offseason, yet Arenado’s limited list of suitors left president of baseball operations John Mozeliak without much of a plan B after the Astros trade was nixed.  The Red Sox were another team on Arenado’s approval list, but their third base need was met when Boston signed Bregman.  As the Cards’ spring camp opened, both Mozeliak and Arenado indicated that a trade now seemed unlikely and Arenado was probably going to start the season in St. Louis, so these late talks with Houston could be a Hail Mary development for both teams.

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  1. horaceallen

    4 months ago

    Get ‘er done.

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  2. Fever Pitch Guy

    4 months ago

    I told y’all it was possible!

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    • thebirds

      4 months ago

      It says “Cardinals and Astros discussing trade”, not “Arenado has agreed to waive his (already denied) NTC to go to Houston” lol.

      This is getting silly..

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      • CardsFan57

        4 months ago

        They wouldn’t be discussing it unless Arenado indicated he’s interested.

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        • thebirds

          4 months ago

          Ah.. yes they would. That’s exactly what they are doing.

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        • CardsFan57

          4 months ago

          I’m suspecting just the opposite. Arenado said I changed my mind but Houston is saying too late.

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      • 17dizzy

        4 months ago

        After all that’s gone on — or hasn’t gone on this winter—- Personally, I hope Arenado remains a Cardinal in 2025!!!

        It’d be a ton better seeing Arenado playing 3rd base than having Mr. 200+ strikeouts a season Gorman playing 3rd.

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        • CardsFan57

          4 months ago

          I’m divided. I don’t see the Cardinals being real contenders for a few seasons. The Arenado money can be used to improve player development. I still think Gray and/ or Contreras can be moved at the deadline

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        • thebirds

          4 months ago

          But will they use it for that or will they pocket it?

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        • CardsFan57

          4 months ago

          They’ve been taking the development money to sign free agents for years. It’s shown in their results. They’ve said they want to spend more on player development. We can hope that’s what they do with the money.

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        • Card66

          4 months ago

          it would be nice if I thought they would spend the money on player development , but I think the deWitts would just pocket the money

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      • Sadler

        4 months ago

        Sure must be weird playing for a team that is desperately trying to get rid of you..

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  3. dsett75

    4 months ago

    They’re determined to put Altuve in LF, apparently

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    • King123

      4 months ago

      Which is sad. Let your premier player for the last decade and a half play his natural position.

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      • Rocker49

        4 months ago

        Which is 100% true. BUT as someone who has seen every game, he is not a bad defensive 2B at all on balls he gets to. The problem is that his infield range is extremely poor. Which moving to the OF seems to be even worse when saying his range is poor, but LF in Houston has had some horrible defenders and hides them well. Yordan, Brantley, and the worst outfielder of all time: Carlos Lee. If Carlos Lee can play LF in Houston, then Altuve will look like Willie Mays out there. The Astros have the worst offensive OF in all of baseball, I think they are just looking for a creative way to get a bat in the OF rotation.

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        • SODOMOJO

          4 months ago

          Yeah, his range has fallen off a cliff. Speaking as someone that watches him at least 20-25 full games a year.

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        • ReyDay

          4 months ago

          So they can replenish a bit? They got 2 decent MLB players and 1 top prospect for a year of Kyle Tucker it’s a good trade wether you agree or not.

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        • BobinTexas

          4 months ago

          SadMs: It is beyond absurd to say that Rodgers is way better than Paredes. He is in fact quite a bit worse. Despite playing half his games in Coors, Rodgers’ career OPS is .725. Paredes’ career OPS is .755, even without the huge Rockie stadium advantage. Please use facts when your knowledge is lacking.

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        • AlanZ

          4 months ago

          the Astros knew they could not re-sign him, because he wants over 40 million, and knew his value is at the peak right now. The Astros got two now pieces and one mid-season or next year piece that plugged holes.

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        • Unclemike1526

          4 months ago

          Look the Cardinals are being really stupid here. Arenado had a bad year last year. Nobody is denying that. But he’s had quite a few good ones before that. I’d be willing to bet that he’s a real good candidate for a bounce back year. Trading him now is selling low. Any good GM or POBO or whatever you want to call the guy who runs the team will tell you that selling low is dumb. The smart play is to keep him and see what happens at the AS break. Then see where he’s at. At the very least if he has a good year and his contract is a year less money check in at the off season. Might even get somebody to take on the whole deal and get something back in the bargain. I’ve never seen more confusing management ladders than this year. It’s dizzying to the mind.

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        • Colt45erforlife

          4 months ago

          The Tucker trade made a lot of sense. Tucker was going to test the FA market and not sign an extension. He missed about one third of last season “rehabbing” his bone bruise and management allegedly was unhappy about how long it took for him to return to the lineup. I’d be willing to bet he does the same kind of stuff during his contract year with the Cubs, and will only be a one year player for them. Astros got a good return for a one year rental in Parades, Smith and Wesnewski.

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        • Alan53

          4 months ago

          I’m not sure Wesneski is a decent MLB player, but Cam Smith is going to be really good, and soon.

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        • teufelshunde4

          4 months ago

          Arenado has all the power here.

          Plus Arenado has publicly stated that he has a family now so an in season trade is problematic for him.

          There is only really two moves here.

          1. Trade him now if Arenado is willing to waive NTC.
          2. Hope Arenado has a great season and the RIGHT contender wants him for 26.

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        • Django

          4 months ago

          It’s been explained ad nauseam. I think it was the right move under the circumstances, and reasonable minds can disagree whether it was a good trade, but it’s not hard at all to understand.

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      • horaceallen

        4 months ago

        Let him play the position… who cares if he hurts the team, think of the sentimentality!

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      • Teamspirit

        4 months ago

        He’s a DH now.

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        • Twoston

          4 months ago

          Alvarez will be the DH most of the time though.

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      • NYCityRiddler

        4 months ago

        I hope they put it altogether & at the last moment Arenado says, “Ya know what, I’m not really feeling this, I’m gonna pass.” Ahahahahahaha!

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      4 months ago

      I wouldn’t like altuve in left it would be so weird to see this extremely tiny guy on outfield grass

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      • Bart Harley Jarvis

        4 months ago

        Exactly!

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        • Unclemike1526

          4 months ago

          1. I’m not exactly sure what the Cardinals are doing. 2. I’m not exactly sure what the Astros are doing either. OK, The Astros decided they didn’t want to pay Bregman OR Tucker. Why? You tell me. So they completely sucker the Cubs for 3 guys to solve the 3B problem for now and in the future. Then they decide to take one of the best 2B in baseball and put him in LF. Huh? Why? You tell me. Now they want Arenado for what? You tell me. I really haven’t got a clue what the Cardinals are doing. OK they want to reset the payroll. Fine. AFTER they gave out a bunch of NTC’s. Huh? I really didn’t get what they did last year signing all of those old pitchers either. Now they’re paying the price for that. Probably the dumbest thing they’re doing is having the old POBO and the new POBO in the house at the same time. Pick a lane fellows and stay in it. Look I’m already confused enough trying to figure out what Hoyer is doing. My head is spinning like Linda Blair’s right now.

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        • DonOsbourne

          4 months ago

          The Cardinals actions can be explained with one word: Mo.

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        • 17dizzy

          4 months ago

          Amen Unclemike!!!!!

          Cardinals Nation has been trying to figure out “Why” the tremendous regression in John Mozeliak over the past 8-10 years.

          The massive multi year contracts that have been offered to non-quality, mediocre, past their prime, former headline baseball players. Has literally tanked the historic St. Louis Franchise!!!

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        • Bart Harley Jarvis

          4 months ago

          Front office turnover can be brutally and frustratingly slow.

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    • Rsox

      4 months ago

      Kind of makes the Brendan Rodgers signing look like “plan B” if they don’t get Arenado or another 3B

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  4. letitbelowenstein

    4 months ago

    Just trade him to Boston. That’ll get the sports talk radio people revved up.

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  5. ToJoComp

    4 months ago

    Nolan will be starting 3B for STL… Nolan Gorman.

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  6. Acoss1331

    4 months ago

    Arenado must feel comfortable with Houston’s offseason and current roster. Mo wouldn’t re-engage if Arenado hadn’t given him the okay to work on a deal. This might actually get done this time.

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    • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

      4 months ago

      Arenado initially declined because he wanted time to think, and the Astros needed to get things done quickly

      Arenado must’ve had enough time by now and has decided that Houston is better than staying in St. Louis

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      • Jason29

        4 months ago

        Houston is not a great city, but St. Louis is even worse so I would not blame him.

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        • whyhayzee

          4 months ago

          Great city is an oxymoron.

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        • BlueSkies_LA

          4 months ago

          You get this week’s frowny-face.

          🙁

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    • BlueSkies_LA

      4 months ago

      Yep, this trade has gone from probably not to very possibly in a few days. I can’t think of a single good reason why he’d want to stay put in St. Louis. The Astros at least give him a shot at playing in the postseason.

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    • Unclemike1526

      4 months ago

      I thought the whole idea with moving Arenado for the Cardinals was to save money and finally move Walker back to playing his rightful position which was 3B as he failed everywhere else they put him. Nolan Gorman? Really?

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  7. Jerry Hairston Jr's Toupee

    4 months ago

    Arenado accepting now that there’s no way he going to LA, NY or Boston….

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  8. Salzilla

    4 months ago

    I mean, Cashman, you don’t have what it takes to land a guy we could really use???

    3rd base is a void. Let’s take these three years of Arenado! We literally have a need for him more than almost anyone else! Yeesh.

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    • Jbigz12

      4 months ago

      I hope the Yankees get Arenado so they spend money on a non impactful player and it hopefully impacts their decision for a bid on Kyle Tucker next year.

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      • Salzilla

        4 months ago

        OF isn’t a pressing need. If Jasson pans out that’s another OF position locked up. We have some decent OF prospects too. 1b and 3b we need more. I like Tucker, but we’ll see what their level of interest is regardless.

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      • Doug

        4 months ago

        If the Cards take back Stroman, it’s doable.

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    • rememberthecoop

      4 months ago

      Unless he has a resurgence, you’re not getting the great player he once was. He’s basically league average on offense and even his defense isn’t what it used to be. I don’t get why teams want him.

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      • Salzilla

        4 months ago

        Again 3b is a void. There’s literally no one coming into free agency that’s worth the spenditure on.

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        • DroppedThirdStrike

          4 months ago

          Munetaka Murakami

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        • Salzilla

          4 months ago

          @Dropped for whatever reason for the longest time I thought Murakami was a 1b. Huh, yes, I want Murakami lol. Let’s go, nothing to see here….

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      • Beernbaseballguy

        4 months ago

        Also the 3B market for the next couple of years isn’t robust league Avg bat and above average defense might be the best outcome for people in need of 3B help

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      • stymeedone

        4 months ago

        Have you looked at who teams have been playing at 3B? Its ugly after the top 5.

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      • Bobcastelliniscat

        4 months ago

        Teams don’t want him. The Cardinals have been trying to dump him for months.

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    • Big whiffa

      4 months ago

      I don’t think the Yankees will part with what StL will require

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      • Brick House Coffee Tables Inc

        4 months ago

        The Yankees will insist on sending Stroman, and I don’t think St. Louis wants the drama.

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        • die defunctorum

          4 months ago

          @Brick – maybe Arenado and Matz for Stroman? I think Stroman has a player option in 2026 if he pitches 140 innings this season so he’s motivated to get that done but Yankees have better starting rotation options currently. Matz contract ends in 2025 so Yankees just keep him as a bullpen/swing man. I understand Matz isn’t very good at this stage but that makes it easier for Cardinals to absorb Stroman.

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    • Ronk325

      4 months ago

      Arenado actually isn’t a very good fit for the Yankees. His offense has fallen off a cliff and he has reverse splits. The Yankees could use a hitter that fares well against lefties. Trading for Arenado would be a marginal short term improvement that would cause bigger problems down the line

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  9. PrincessYuki

    4 months ago

    Houston is a sinking ship.

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    • momTurphy

      4 months ago

      I agree, but with the caveat that they also seemed to be sinking the last couple years.

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      • deepseamonster32

        4 months ago

        They have been sinking, but they were a lot higher on the water before. She might be able to limp to one, last West title given the competition.

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        • momTurphy

          4 months ago

          Yeah. The Tucker trade keeps their window open a couple years if pitching can stay reasonably healthy.

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  10. mad1

    4 months ago

    As long as altuve has a fresh supply of trash cans he will be fine

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  11. sad tormented neglected mariners fan

    4 months ago

    I can’t see it happening unless the Astros send paredes out to St. Louis (which would then be an overpay imo)

    Maybe like paredes for arenado plus money or plus a guy like Michael siani?

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    • Daryl Pauley

      4 months ago

      Yes please send Siani somewhere. The manager can’t stop playing him

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    • Flags in the wind

      4 months ago

      Mozeliak is probably sending Donovan with Arenado, and taking Paredes back. These Mo moments are stress packed. Better buckle up.

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      • sad tormented neglected mariners fan

        4 months ago

        I thought Donovan but then the Astros would need to send more than paredes

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        • Flags in the wind

          4 months ago

          Or Bill DeWitt pays down less. His spending drought is established.

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  12. Luke Strong

    4 months ago

    I wouldn’t want to go to Houston if I was interested in winning a championship, they don’t have the team for that. Replacing Tucker and Bregman with Parades and Arenado is a major step backwards. And they don’t have the pitching they once had.

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    • MLB Top 100 Commenter

      4 months ago

      Luke

      Replacing Tucker and Bregman with Christian Walker, Arenado-maybe, Paredes and Cam Smith. Christian Walker replaces most of Bregman’s bat by himself. Tucker is the big loss.

      My guess is that no deal occurs just another joke at Arenado’s expense.

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    • thedappergent

      4 months ago

      In addition to 100’s point, getting a much healthier and productive Chas back makes that outfield look quite a bit more solid – even if giving Altuve lots of reps in left brings some doubt..

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  13. thedappergent

    4 months ago

    Flat “no” to “I signed up for ”Nado dis” Nolan.

    In an alternate universe where he didn’t get so much veto power, it certainly makes for a deep, if unspectacular lineup outside of a healthy Yordan. But going deep gets it done.

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    • Gwynning

      4 months ago

      Twss!

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  14. Daryl Pauley

    4 months ago

    I’ll miss him but not too much until Gorman tries to be a suitable fit.; , Can you replace a HOFer with a demoted player and feel good about it.

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  15. DarrenDreifortsContract

    4 months ago

    I didn’t even know that Houston still had a team.

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  16. notagain27

    4 months ago

    Modern analytics tells us that with every offensive player trying to hit every pitch out of the park on every swing, fewer ground balls are being hit. That fact along with increasing strikeouts means infielder’s range or lack of it no longer is a concern when evaluating infielders.

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    • DroppedThirdStrike

      4 months ago

      Yeah, that’s not accurate at all. Defense still matters. A lot

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  17. Clofreesz

    4 months ago

    Urgh. I hope not.

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  18. whyhayzee

    4 months ago

    Eat your vegetables and go to Houston already.

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  19. baseballpun

    4 months ago

    This is stupid

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  20. Jardinero

    4 months ago

    The Astros need a masher who can play left field, not a washed 3B who still thinks he’s a star.

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    • NYCityRiddler

      4 months ago

      It’ll be a whole new ballgame once Altuve gets a hold of him.Ahahahahahaha!

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  21. top jimmy

    4 months ago

    Can Paredes even play a passable 2B? He’s certainly not built like a middle infielder.

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    • deepseamonster32

      4 months ago

      He’s played there a little before. He was rated below average, so that’s passable I guess.

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      • ChazzyB

        4 months ago

        He’s an upgrade over Altuve. Paredes actually rated really high defensively in 2022, was well above average. Including a ton of reps at 2B. Played 2B some in 2023 as well, all Houston needs is average play which he’s capable of. Average D is an upgrade over where Altuve is now. Plus, you could bring in Dubon or Brendan Rodgers late as a defensive replacement at 2B if need be.

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  22. Champs64

    4 months ago

    I sure hope that MO has had the agreement from Arenado to continue to proceed with a possible trade. Crazy to think that he hasn’t but this front office has been nothing but disappointing. Personally I want Arenado to stay. I think the team can compete with the NLC. Stranger things have happened in the past.

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  23. cwsOverhaul

    4 months ago

    If Astros were only willing to take on 40 of the 64 mil owed NA in its budget before adding Walker, you’d think that number decreases to half (32) and no prospect of substance. Will STL do that just to end it?

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  24. bmcferren

    4 months ago

    you´d think theyd prefer local from houston KeBryan Hayes – better with the glove and better on the pocketbook

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  25. SupremeZeus

    4 months ago

    Poor guy thought he could land in LA, NY or BOS by sheer force of will. Reality bites.

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  26. stanton100

    4 months ago

    National Enquirer story. Just needed to post something to meet a deadline.

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  27. Mercenary.Freddie.Freeman

    4 months ago

    I think the Astros will be a bad team this year if the do NOT get a big bat. They just let 2 good hitters leave and there replacements look meh..

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  28. Bobcastelliniscat

    4 months ago

    Not sure why the Astros want to take on that contract. Pretty foolish on their part.

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  29. BCleveland3381

    4 months ago

    If you’re gonna take on Arenado, why not just pay Bregman?

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    • ❤️ MuteButton

      4 months ago

      With what the Cardinals will eat of his salary, and the fact that Bregman is getting 40 million a year from the Red Sox I would say there’s about 30 million reasons

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      • hollidayfever

        4 months ago

        They’re not going to eat that much. Probably 15-20 million at most. They just won’t get anything of note in return.

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  30. Garywally57

    4 months ago

    Arenado has zero chance of winning a championship in St. Louis since Multi Billionaire Bill DeWallet puts profits before fans. He would be much better off in Houston.

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    • 17dizzy

      4 months ago

      He’d be much better off with any other team who have newer owners with a desire to win a World Chsmpionship!!!

      The DeWitts got theirs!
      They could care less about winning another one as long as the turnstiles are still turning.

      However —- by Tanking—— that 3 million annual attendance is going to take an “avalanchual” tumble.

      No young Quality star players on the team to watch equals empty seats!!!!

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  31. RotiniRick

    4 months ago

    In one tweet, Denton says the Astros reengaged the Cardinals and in another he says the Cardinals reengaged the Astros.

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    • This one belongs to the Reds

      4 months ago

      Sounds like the agent who leaked it can’t get his fake story straight!

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      • RotiniRick

        4 months ago

        Ha. Yeah plus I think the tweets were 45 min/an hour apart so who knows? Could be a nothing burger but to say the same thing in two completely different ways seems strange to me.

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  32. ❤️ MuteButton

    4 months ago

    I don’t think it makes the Astros appreciably better to bring on Arenado and his Primadonna routine. You only put up with it if they’re still All-Star caliber, which Nolan is not

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  33. AlanZ

    4 months ago

    ugh, I would prefer going with Brandon Rodgers, saves a lot of money and keeps people in their natural positions and don’t cost a ton of money, unless St. Louis picks up most of the contract

    Reply
    • ❤️ MuteButton

      4 months ago

      That’s what I was thinking too. It seems rather puzzling that he’s on a minor league deal with opt outs. I know the home/road splits for Rogers are pretty bad, but still…

      Reply
    • hollidayfever

      4 months ago

      Most of the contract?? Yeah no. Why would STL do that? They will just get nothing in return and maybe pick up 10-15 million.

      Reply
      • DroppedThirdStrike

        4 months ago

        They’re gonna cover close to half of that contract

        Reply
  34. The Natural

    4 months ago

    Arenado vetoed the trade before because he didn’t like them letting Bregman and Tucker go. But he’ll still have a better chance of winning in Houston. He needs to think it over carefully.

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    • YankeesBleacherCreature

      4 months ago

      Nothing to really think about. He either wants to stay put in STL or go to a clear contender. It’s the same conversation Mo and Arenado had before the end of last season when Mo told him the org weren’t going to compete going forward.

      Reply
  35. hollidayfever

    4 months ago

    What a toolbag. Could’ve taken care of this in December. Be glad to see him gone.

    Reply
  36. 99socalfrc

    4 months ago

    Why am I the only one that thinks Arenado is not worth giving up anything for? Dude is easily in decline the last 4 years. Hit less than half as many home runs last year as he did in 2021. Avg is falling, OBP falling, Strikeouts rising all steadily going into his age 34 season and he is still owed $90m. Shuffling around players on your roster to make room for him (especially after he vetoed a trade to your team 60 days ago) seems like giving him way too much credit.

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    Reply
  37. Joe S

    4 months ago

    Did Astros get dumb? This is a move that send teams down a 10 year run of mediocracy.

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  38. sTpGoTexans

    4 months ago

    Unless in three days of spring they have decided that Paredes can’t play third, Arenado makes no sense for the Astros at this point. Even if, they still have Dezenzo & Cam Smith. The infield is perfectly good as is. If they are not acquiring a stud outfielder then stop adding junk. And all of this is assuming Altuve is in left?!

    Reply
  39. em650r

    4 months ago

    Paredes and prospects to STL

    Reply
  40. jaxcards

    4 months ago

    The Astros have two rising prospects that play 3B with Cam Smith and Zach Dezenzo. Trading for Arenado would not make sense for the Astros. Why would they want to create the same problem the Cardinals are already so desperate to solve for Gorman and Walker?

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