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Rangers Have Had “Internal Discussions” About Jon Gray As Closer

By Nick Deeds | February 9, 2025 at 5:44pm CDT

The Rangers are poised to enter Spring Training this year with a dilemma that they haven’t had in recent years: no experienced closers on their roster. Kirby Yates, David Robertson, and Jose Leclerc had a combined 313 saves under their belts when they departed Texas for free agency back in November after serving as the Rangers’ late-inning relief corps in 2024, and the year prior to that lefty Will Smith closed games for the Rangers despite a shaky 4.40 ERA thanks in part to the two 30+ save seasons he had under his belt before he arrived in Texas. This year, however, the club has no such experienced closer to lean on in the ninth inning.

Veteran reliever Chris Martin has the dominant relief numbers often associated with the closer role, but has just 14 career saves and has not recorded more than four in a single season before. Those 14 saves are still enough to make him the most experienced ninth-inning arm in the Rangers’ new-look bullpen, which added interesting pieces like Robert Garcia, Hoby Milner, and Jacob Webb who have pitched well in the past but never been used as a closer. Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News noted that it’s possible the club won’t have clearly defined roles in the bullpen entering the season due to the lack of a clear top closing option, though he added that there have been at least “internal discussions” about the possibility of using veteran starter Jon Gray in the ninth inning.

Grant emphasizes that as things currently stand, Gray appears to be more valuable to the club as a starter given the innings he can provide. 2024 was the first 162-game season of Gray’s career where he posted less than 20 starts and 110 innings of work since his nine-start cup of coffee with the Rockies as a rookie back in 2013, and with 1216 2/3 innings of work (including 387 1/3 in a Rangers uniform) under his belt Gray is valuable source of steadiness in a Texas rotation mix filled with aging, oft-injured, or young and unproven arms. Given that, it would hardly be a surprise to see the club simply stick with Gray in the rotation and use Martin for the lion’s share of save chances, or perhaps simply play matchups in the ninth inning without anointing a closer at all.

Even so, the idea of Gray as a reliever is a somewhat intriguing one. Gray was used out of the bullpen four times in 2024, the most he’s ever pitched in relief in his career to this point. While Gray’s seven innings of work out of the bullpen are much too small of a sample size to draw any major conclusions from, his brief work in the role was nothing short of dominant: Gray pitched to a 1.29 ERA in those four appearances with a phenomenal 37% strikeout rate against a 7.4% walk rate. Those are the kind of numbers that could be truly game-changing for a Rangers club that has struggled to find production in the bullpen in recent years, making a potential role change for Gray at least worth considering.

While it seems unlikely that the Rangers would move Gray to the bullpen to start the season, perhaps it could become a more feasible option as the season develops. The Rangers have very little certainty in their rotation, but huge amounts of upside. Top draft picks Kumar Rocker and Jack Leiter figure to try and force their way into the rotation with the club this year, and healthy seasons from Jacob deGrom and Tyler Mahle would be able to turn the club’s starting five from a question mark to a major strength quite suddenly. If things are looking up for the club in the rotation this summer, perhaps Gray’s 4.70 ERA in 19 starts last year becomes less attractive as a steady, back-end option and the club decides to see what the 33-year-old can do as a full-time reliever.

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  1. DonOsbourne

    10 months ago

    That makes a LOT of sense. Bochy knows.

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  2. letsgooakland123

    10 months ago

    Why not Martin? Sounds like something that’s being thrown out that won’t happen.

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  3. RunDMC

    10 months ago

    Why not Jack Leiter?

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    • bobloucks123

      10 months ago

      Why not my brother, Earl ?

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      • Rsox

        10 months ago

        Low velocity on his 4 seamer and lack of an “out” pitch. I hear they were considering Earl for a mop up role though

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        • Tigers3232

          10 months ago

          @Rsox Martin’s peak velocity was 0.2 MPH below Gray I’m 2024. His sinker isn’t far behind either as far as speed. Martin also averaging over a K per inning in 2024 which Gray was not.

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        • Saluki

          10 months ago

          Hard to compare velocities directly between starters and relievers, considering relievers can throw maximum effort, while starters must conserve. Most starters to move to the bullpen see their velocity tick up substantially.

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        • Rsox

          10 months ago

          My joke was aimed at bobloucks123 asking why not his cousin, not a commentary about the Rangers pitchers

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  4. rockingryan

    10 months ago

    My mind and belly have had “internal discussions” about diarrhea ing my shorts.

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  5. Yanks4life22

    10 months ago

    I mean the dude misses bats when he spins it so why not

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  6. RedFraggle

    10 months ago

    I don’t remember when the Dodgers’ catcher closed games for the Rangers. Wouldn’t that be a conflict of interest?

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  7. JJM 4

    10 months ago

    They should consider DeGrom for closer before he gets hurt again.

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    • Clofreesz

      10 months ago

      185 million dollars is quite a lot for a closer.

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      • stymeedone

        10 months ago

        Its even more for someone on the IL!

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      • JackStrawb

        10 months ago

        @Clofreesz That doesn’t matter. It shouldn’t change the Rangers’ calculus, whether deGrom is being paid $185 million, or five bucks.

        The money’s committed, the money’s going to be paid, regardless. The only variable the Rangers should be considering is how they’re going to best employ the player in the three years he’s under contract.

        Cf. Sunk cost fallacy.

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    • JackStrawb

      10 months ago

      @JJM4 A starter with a long history of arm trouble isn’t going to be helped by having him make 50-60 appearances in a year.

      Injuries often follow from high-stress pitches or warming up. Neither case means closing is easier than starting on deGrom’s arm.

      Besides, I’ve got a few bucks at great odds on deGrom finishing in the Cy voting.

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    • ChrisMonte

      10 months ago

      They signed him injured knowing he would need TJ eventually. Signed almost every Met fan. He just wanted to try rehab instead 1st

      Reply
  8. Clofreesz

    10 months ago

    Wrong Will Smith link…

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    • Robert-5

      10 months ago

      Keep his MF name out your mouth!!

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    • Jaysfansince92

      10 months ago

      And all shooting some bball outside of the school.

      Reply
  9. Olericat

    10 months ago

    But, why?!¿

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  10. jaxcards

    10 months ago

    Lance Lynn, future Rangers closer?

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  11. Old York

    10 months ago

    I’d like to see MLB changed the rules on players exiting the game. I’d like to see him start the game for a few innings and then come back into the game in the 9th to close it out.

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    • KingmanParker

      10 months ago

      Horrible idea. If this was implemented then the same would apply for hitters. It allow every position the ability to utilize the DH.

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      • Old York

        10 months ago

        @KingmanParker

        They already destroyed baseball by allowing the pitcher to no longer hit, despite the fact that the starting 9 on the field are supposed to be hitters as well, so we might as well keep the foolishness going.

        Need to bring back the pitcher as a hitter and actually teach them to hit, not just throw them into the cage to take some hacks.

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  12. dopt

    10 months ago

    Skubal can close. Just trade for him. Amirite

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    • stymeedone

      10 months ago

      Tigers don’t need no starters!

      Reply
  13. Ranger Danger19

    10 months ago

    Gray was huge out of the pen in game 3 vs the DBacks

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  14. fathead0507

    10 months ago

    He has the stuff.. and he’s less effective the 2nd/3rd time through the lineup so this plays

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  15. Rsox

    10 months ago

    Both Kenly Jansen and David Robertson are still available and won’t command long term deals, Craig Kimbrel is out there too and could do the job at least for the first half of the season until the wheels come off…

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  16. YankeesBleacherCreature

    10 months ago

    Just sign a closer for one-year. It’s not going to put then over the CBT. The AL West is wide open and Seager and Semien aren’t getting any younger. If Gray doesn’t pan out as a closer, then they need to stretch him out again to start.

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    • rct

      10 months ago

      They could just re-sign Robertson. Unless there’s a money crunch or something I don’t understand why they wouldn’t just bring back Robertson on a 1/$10 million deal, which is what he signed for last year, instead of trying this experiment with Gray. Robertson was very good for them last year.

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  17. Jaysfansince92

    10 months ago

    It wouldn’t be the first time a middling starter turned out to be a good closer.

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  18. Salzilla

    10 months ago

    I think this could actually work out. As a fantasy guy, I’m paying close attention t9 this situation.

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  19. RodBecksBurnerAccount

    10 months ago

    I’d put Kumar Rocker as the closer for now.

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  20. Big Jer

    10 months ago

    Just let Martin be the closer all season (he is on my fantasy team).

    Reply
  21. letitbelowenstein

    10 months ago

    Chris Martin has just 14 saves, so let’s discuss Gray who has zero.

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