Major League Baseball has announced suspensions related to last night’s benches-clearing incident between the Padres and Dodgers. San Diego closer Robert Suarez was suspended three games for “intentionally hitting” Shohei Ohtani with a pitch. Suarez, who was also hit with an undisclosed fine, has elected to appeal and remains on the roster during that process.
Additionally, both managers were suspended for one game for “unsportsmanlike conduct and for contributing to inciting the benches-clearing incident.” Managers do not get an appellate right, so Dave Roberts and Mike Shildt will both be unavailable tonight. The Dodgers are hosting the Nationals, while the Padres welcome the Royals to Petco Park. Roberts told Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic that bench coach Danny Lehmann will manage tonight’s game.
The suspensions are related but not all directly from the same sequence. The managers were suspended for their actions in the top of the ninth inning. Dodgers righty Jack Little, making his MLB debut, hit Fernando Tatis Jr. on his right hand with a 93 MPH fastball. It seems unlikely that Little intended to throw at Tatis, which is reflected in the league’s decision not to impose any discipline. (The Dodgers optioned Little back to Triple-A tonight.)
It was the second time that Tatis had been hit in the series, though. He’d also been hit with a pitch during these teams’ previous series one week before. The final beaning came at the end of a very tense four-game set. Dodger outfielder Andy Pages accused Dylan Cease of throwing at him on Monday. Tatis, Jose Iglesias and Ohtani were all plunked on Tuesday. Stephen Kolek drilled Pages again on Wednesday, and Lou Trivino had hit Bryce Johnson with a cutter earlier in Thursday’s game.
Shildt raced out of the dugout to check on Tatis after Little had plunked him. San Diego’s skipper had some choice words for the Dodger dugout along the way. That prompted Roberts to come onto the field. He got into Shildt’s face and bumped him, leading both dugouts to empty. Both managers were ejected. Tatis was removed from the game as an injury precaution. Little stayed in to finish the inning. The Padres had some trepidation about Tatis’ initial imaging results, but he’s fortunately back in the lineup tonight.
Suarez then came out of the bullpen for the bottom of the ninth. He hit Ohtani on the right shoulder with a 100 MPH fastball on a 3-0 count. That probably would’ve caused benches to clear again had Ohtani not quickly signaled to the L.A. dugout not to do so. Suarez and acting manager Brian Esposito were tossed by home plate umpire Marvin Hudson. San Diego’s closer told reporters tonight through an interpreter that he did not intend to hit Ohtani (video provided by 97.3 The Fan). MLB disagreed and imposed the ban.
Nothing for the pitcher that intentionally injured Tatis?
Did you see his control before that? Doubt it was intentional at all. And a rookie in his debut with no history with the dude?
If it was the first time they hit him then I might buy that but it wasn’t and if he was having control problems why in the world would he go inside?
Because of the scouting report James.
I can can see your point that the Dodger scouting report said hit him.
What ever makes you feel better about your squad.
Idiot. Typical Madre fan.
Scouting report isn’t an excuse. I don’t believe he intentionally hit him, but when pitchers are throwing 97+ out of the rotation there is an obligation that if they don’t have control they should not risk hurting guys.
@BA57
What is this, the Kindergarten Baseball League where we all hug at the end of the game and no one keeps score? Plus, the only time Little reached 97mph+ is when he drove up the 101 at 2 in the morning.
Here is why I don’t give him a pass. When he showed up, the team sat down with him with a scouting report. Whatever Roberts has noted for Tatis about pitching high and tight – even if you can’t control your pitches, don’t worry about it, I don’t care if you hit him.
@longtimebs
And you know all that because you were sitting in the meeting?
Roberts had already taken out Betts, Freeman and Teo Hernandez, being behind 5-0. And after that you say he had Tatis hit intentionally? Laughable.
Yep. Or you could act like a guy getting his mlb debit didn’t get a briefing.
I never said he hit him intentionally- re read before you say that.
ok point taken.
As a Padre fan, I don’t think Little hit Tatis on purpose. But the Dodgers being behind and pulling their starters makes it MORE likely that Roberts would give the order, not less.
He’d already waved the white flag. He’s not worried about giving the Padres a baserunner. He’d removed three players most likely to be targeted in a reprisal. That’s exactly when you DO tell the pitcher to hit somebody.
I agree with your first statement. The rest of it is conjecture and imo does not apply to the events of last night. You said it yourself: that you don’t think Little hit Tatis on purpose. Tatis himself said the same thing.
intent is not the be-all end-all. The results speak for themselves.
What’s conjecture about it?
Waving the white flag? What else do you call pulling three core players who, if the Dodgers were to rally, would hit in the bottom of the 9th?
Not worried about giving the Padres a baserunner? He’s already conceded the game, that’s why Little was in. Note he was sent down today. He was only up to spare them from using better arms in exactly that kind of situation.
He’d removed three players? That’s a simple fact. It’s more likely that he just wanted them off their feet. But in your original post you claimed that Roberts’ pulling them was somehow evidence that he wouldn’t hit Tatis. It’s the opposite. It protects those players from reprisal.
Bi – you aren’t wrong saying these thoughts are conjecture but maybe stop and realize that almost everything said that isnt quoting actual stats is conjecture.
“What I think probably happened…, etc.”
Yes pulling those Dodger players was to give them an early rest. While I see your point I’m saying Roberts had essentially conceded the game in the 8th. (P.S. I didn’t agree with that move at the time and as the game unfolded Dodgers could have used those bats in the 9th). I contend that pretty much having conceded the contest it is out of character to then intentionally hit Tatis. And the Friars found their reprisal target didn’t they? The big target.
Hitting a player gives the opposition a baserunner. If you’re not trying to win anymore, it’s an incentive (or rather, it removes a disincentive) to hit somebody. Not sure what “out of character” means in that context.
He had nobody to swap in for Ohtani. The only player he had left was Conforto, who Roberts was trying to reset with at least a full day off.
@ Billy So let me get this straight…. Roberts took out Betts, Freeman, and Teo so he could put the hit out on Tatis but left his most valuable guy in there??? That makes sense in your world? Stick to golf., logic isnt your wheelhouse.
Go back and read. Move your lips while you do to help you sound out the words.
Bivouac-Sal contended that getting his players out of the line of possible fire was somehow evidence that Roberts wasn’t planning to hit a Padre. That’s absolutely not true.
I couldn’t have stated any more clearly that I don’t think Roberts ordered Little to hit Tatis. It’s the very first line in my very first comment.. I was simply pointing out to another poster that pulling valuable position players isn’t, and can’t be, proof that Roberts wasn’t planning it.
Your sarcasm is always welcome.
Yet, Ohtani was still playing!
Robert’s may have left Othani in the game figuring he may not get another at bat. But after Tatis got drilled again Robert’s could not PH for him that would have showed cowardice.
@dawg
you have a vibrant fantasy life
Why would a guy making his debut hit him? Tatis crowds the plate, similar to Justin Turner when he was on the Dodgers and frequently got hit. If the Dodgers were going to intentionally hit a Padres hitter, why wouldn’t it be Machado, who is actually hitting well? The two on Ohtani both looked intentional and in the context of the game and.Shildt’s comments likely were.
Shildt has no ground to stand on after hitting born Pages and Ohtani twice each.
Yet Ohtani was still in the game. Makes complete sense.
Padre fans seem nice enough, like Canadiens. But like Canucks, they just aren’t bright.
That’s exactly what they want you to think!
While that might be the case if one is going to throw inside you better have control.
So because he has poor control he shouldn’t get suspended?
Maybe he should work on his control…. He’s a pitcher. He can’t go out there with poor control and injure people when he tries to throw inside.
Who got injured? Cease got no suspension, or Kolek. Why should Little? Didnt take a genius to see he was struggling and HBP’s happen. Just too bad the Padres handled themselves so poorly. At least they got to witness how a real professional comports himself after Ohtani got drilled.
Who got injured? Tatis? It was reported that the X-ray is inconclusive and he has to get some additional imaging.
Tatis is at this moment in a game…
Doesn’t matter.
How long has he been on the Dodgers payroll in the minors?!
They all know and are taught
“The Dodgers way”.
Dodgers broadcasters laugh and joke about it all the time.
They say Dodgers pitchers used to just hit a guy îstead of an intentional walk.
Their attitude was why waste 3 more pitches on that guy.
Could say the same about Suarez, as the closer he doesn’t wanna get suspended, and wasn’t very accurate..
Little if anything is more likely used for things like that, not saying he did, but teams generally use random or rookies to do the deed get suspended and sent back down
He shouldn’t be pitching if he can’t control his pitches better. Hitting batters is no joke.
@team
Tatis was hit on his right wrist, in that it missed his front wrist, travelled all the way back and, if anything Tatis hit the ball with his wrist while trying to avoid it. It wasn’t at his head. Get off the plate and then you don’t get hit.
You’re saying Little picked out his back wrist and hit him there, with horrible control being the culprit?
How about Tatis diving into the plate and not being able to get out of the way of a 93moh fastball up and in?
No the dodgers pitchers are dropping like flies. MLB is going to make sure they stay out front.
Tin foil hats on sale in aisle 4.
jokes on you – they don’t sell them pre-made – you buy the foil and make it yourself.
birds aren’t real
@steve The Dodger pitchers dropped like flies last year, how did that work out?
You know what’s going to make sure they stay out front? The Padres losing to the Royals tonight.
And the dodgers front office, ownership, and those guys who play for the team.
The dodgers have hit 5 players this year, 3 of them have been Tatis. Even if it wasn’t intentional, there is clearly a report that says throw him in, way in.
I was relying on AI, so if this isn’t accurate, don’t hate me
And I’m wrong, it’s 21. On me
Please stop using AI and just do actual research next time. AI is the worst.
The AI didn’t intend to be wrong. The answer just got away from it.
Pages and Ohtani were hit two times each this week by the Padres…
I just checked baseball reference. The 2025 Dodgers have 35 HBP among their pitching staff.
Tatis has been hit by 4 pitches this year, and yes, 3 of them came against the Dodgers.
Using AI is not a good excuse for being so massively wrong about the Dodgers’ pitchers’ HBP total.
And they’ve hit Pages and Ohtani 2x each. Tatis crowds the plate and is vulnerable to Inside pitches so that’s a recipe for HBPs.
Then explain how he had only been hit once by 28 teams and three times by one?
Jake – check out my comment above and see what you think
Tatis Crowds the Plate! He is going to get hit.
Right, Tatis gets hit 3 times in the series, but we’re supposed to believe it was not intentional.
Dodgers fan here. At least 2 of the 3 were intentional. Poor Tatis.
Padres fan here. I agree. Tatis was hit twice on purpose, Pages was hit once on purpose, Ohtani was hit twice on purpose. Hit Tatis now and expect to be drilled.
“Bump and Run” Dave Roberts would get suplexed and pimp slapped by Mike “The Mauler” Schildt.
It was outstanding entertainment and I can’t wait until mid August.
@Now Counting isnt your thing? Tatis was hit TWICE, the Same as Pages AND Ohtani. Are we supposed to believe that was all accidental?
@now Tatis was actually hit Twice. First learn how to count. And yes a guy making his MLB debut is not going to hit a guy on purpose who he doesn’t know and has no history with. You don’t think a guy making his debut is a little nervous?
That is a false statement to say that the Dodger pitcher “intentionally injured” Tatis. Even most Padre fans would say he intentionally hit Tatis with disregard for possible injury.
I would be open to suspending more pitchers who hit batters but under MLB rules Suarez is distinguishable because a warning had been given. From expressions seen on TV, it did not look like the last time Tatis was hit was deliberate by the Dodger pitcher.
I would like a rule that gives a mandatory five game suspension for hitting a batter on the head or helmet. I am open to other ideas for regular season games.
On the other hand, I would have suspended Robert for three games to Shildt’s one game because Robert’s shoved Shildt.
They gave a warning in game 2 or 3 I can’t remember which but Iglesias got hit after the warning and they did nothing.
Just suspend Joe Kelly and call it even.
There was a warning when they hit iglecias night before but didn’t throw pitcher out.
The funny part is the night before there were warnings then they plunked Iglesias
My guess is that the rookie pitcher was following instructions to pitch Tatis up and in. He probably did not intend to hit Tatis. That said, hitting Tatis three times in the last six games–plus a near up and in miss in his penultimate at bat last night–is at least as convincing of intent as what Suarez did. So I would suspend Roberts for an additional three games because he is even more culpable that Suarez in my view.
the Dodgers intent was to pitch Tatis up and in. the Padres intent was to hit Ohtani. you don’t see a difference?
I see the same results, except tatis is injured cause his hand got nailed
I don’t think he meant to hit Tatis. Suarez definitely threw at Ohtani. Problem is the Dodgers have hit Tatis so many times it’s easy to be riled up by it
Obviously not, as nobody believes those were on purpose but you.
Nobody believes the Ohtani HBPs were intentional?? Hahahahaha
If there is a warning intentional or not a pitcher should be thrown out . Or what good is warning.
You know the league is going to protect their golden goose.
Heyman in MLB network this morning said they can hit Tatis all they want but nobody should be allowed to hit Ohtani. Now we all know Heyman is brain dead, but nobody refuted him.
That is utterly stupid but i guess considering its Heyman that’s not surprising.
This is what i know; most of today’s players would piss themselves if they had to get into the batters box against Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson or Pedro Martinez
First mistake is listening to the mlb network
Luis
Ohtani and Tatis are both Golden Geese. They are both top five players in the game IMHO.
Tatis isn’t even in the same ballpark as far as earning potential for MLB concerning Ohtani. Not to mention Tatis’ career numbers don’t equate to a Top 5 player.
Career numbers?
Top five active players are maybe Scherzer, Kershaw, Verlander, Trout and Judge.
I am saying that if I could have any player for next season Ohtani would be my first choice and Tatis would also be in my top five.
I’m just saying that a guy who typically hovers around the .850 OPS mark….well, if he’s top 5 material, then the pickin’s must be pretty slim these days.
Luis
Tatis is not a top five hitter in MLB, he is a platinum glove CF with elite speed that makes him when healthy a top five player in my book.
The ringworm gets you extra points
Should read RF.
It was his major league debut lmao. Take off the tin foil hat. Meanwhile Suarez willingly got himself ejected
what’s with the anti-tin foil hat vibe this thread is getting. They provide a valuable service to their users
Epstein didn’t hang himself
Ha ha. Intentional. Really ?
The poor guy looked as nervous as a new born kitten.
In my opinion both teams, especially the dodgers should stop. If it escalates someone is going to get injured and the suspensions will get longer.
The only person who was intentionally hit was Ohtani and he was hit twice intentionally and it was obvious. The Padres didn’t want to throw him a strike and on the 3-0 pitch they hit him above the numbers with 100 mph pitch. The Dodgers had already taken Betts, Smith & Freeman out of the game.
Little is not making his major league debut and purposely hitting Tatis. Why would he purposely hit a dude hitting .269 to face two dudes hitting over .300. Use some logic
If Little was the first to hit Tatis over the last 7 games, you might have a point. I don’t think it was intentional, but throw up and in at him constantly, you risk reprisal.
You stand close to the plate, you will increase your odds of being hit. That is Tatis and many other hitters in today’s MLB. His “up and in” is not really up and in. It’s inside.
If the Padres’ manager said that it was not intentional.
“Double Standard” Much?!
Machado was having a heated
discussion with an umpire about the double standard.
Both benches and managers had been
warned.
Then. a Dodgers pitcher hit another Padres batter?!
Umpires let it go and not eject the Dodgers pitcher and/ or manager?!
That least to further escalations.
It’s just another game in June thats all lets get over this
Little didn’t intend to hit the plate crowder with a pitch not that far off the plate. Before cheat pads were worn by hitters, that pitch was a simple inside ball 1 call. Not intentional at all.
Intentionally? Dumb take.
Suarez wouldn’t have “intentionally” hit Ohtani if Tatis wouldnt have been hit by some scrub in the top of the inning
bucsfan: That’s MLB protecting Ohtani and not giving a damn about Tatis.
Ohtani doesn’t do steroids like Tatis
He just dodges state taxes and apparently can’t read bank statements properly. Numbers going down mean you lost money Shohei lost money.
I wonder who Ohtani has in the Gold Cup
I wonder why I’m smarter than Ohtani. He may be richer but hot damn least I know how to read a bank statement properly. He nor people he hires apparently are capable of doing that.
I wouldn’t have expected Ohtani to be the dumb jock in high school. You know the guy who’s good at sports but needed teachers to pass him cause he couldn’t do it on his own.
I can make up stuff too. Tatis eats puppies and cheated on his wife/gf with a man.
Who’s making stuff up? His former interpreter stole millions from Ohtani. Do you know how bank accounts work? Obviously you nor Ohtani do.
When you see negative numbers it means money was taken out. When the number goes down it means money was taken out.
Ohtani nor his accountants noticed millions coming out not accounted for? Sure. That’s it. Ohtani is a dumb jock who can’t read bank statements. His accountants are dumb too and can’t read bank statements.
I get Tatis has been hit quite a bit, don’t know if any of them have been intentional. Not every HBP needs a reprisal especially against Ohtani who keeps the peace more than anyone involved. Shildt is a child.
With the shape that Schildt is in, I am just glad he did not have a heart attack or a stroke on the field…
Thought he might die.
The dodgers hit Tatis 3 times. Roberts is the coward who had a rookie injure a star player and then came out and assaulted Schilt. MLB obviously doesn’t want to hurt its money maker the dodgers.
If he had the pinpoint accuracy to hit him on the hand purposefully, I bet he would have put that skillset to use by not getting shelled in the 8th. Or maybe it was high and tight and the hands move in on a swing
Intentional or not, 3 plunks is enough in my opinion for reprisal. Especially when you consider it culminated with a hand injury to Tatis.
aSsAuLtEd
Tatis was hit on Tuesday and Thursday. Count them, that’s TWO. And last I checked Tatis is in the lineup on Friday, so, what injury are you referring to?
Perhaps blunt force head trauma to the poster.
Yeah Tatis was only hit twice by the Dodgers if you ignore that long time ago game that took place on June 10th… One, Two….. Three?!?
Exactly, these fools got a short memory
It’s incredible he’s in the lineup. The third hit I’m referring to was from the last series a week ago. Did you watch those games?
Speaking of short memories…saw this post on an article in the athletic…
“Since Tatis jr debuted in 2019, Dodger pitchers have hit him 6 times.
Since 2019 SD pitchers have hit:
Will Smith 11 times
Max Muncy 9 times
Mookie 6 times
Matt Beaty(lol) 5 times(last played for LA in 21)
Freddie Freeman 4 times
Chris Taylor 4 times
And you’ve heard f___-all from the dodgers about any of it.”
“Shildt is a child.”
Dave Roberts is the one who threw an on-field tantrum the other night because warnings were issued. He was ejected but carried on like a fool and ripped the ump for having no “feel” for the game. Meanwhile all the ump did was issue warnings after *three* batters had been hit. Then, in the next game, he ran on the field hot and shoved Schildt. I’m a Mets fan with no horse in this race but to me Roberts looked like a fool repeatedly in this series.
When managers get barky, they do it knowing they are going to get ejected. They are taking one for the team, deliberately. How anyone could watch this game for any time and not get this, I don’t understand. But it’s possible, I guess.
Agree that roberts looked ridiculous.
Not to his team, he didn’t. It was done for their benefit, and not for the aesthetic judgment of you or any other fan. A fan who believes otherwise looks kind of… ridiculous.
Dave Roberts was acting like a child pushing Schildt, then hiding behind his players and running his mouth giving the phony tough guy
act.
The dumb padres Mgr charged the Dodgers dugout asking for trouble
I doubt Suarez meant to hit him anyways, he was a bit wild last night, and padres definitely didn’t want to lose their closer for 3 games
When you crowd the plate you will increase the odds of being hit.
Why…
I’m surprised no fine to Roberts for shoving Schildt
And the same 1-game suspension. Bush league
It’s ridiculous that Roberts got the same suspension as Schildt.
When Roberts ran out and got tossed on Tuesday the benches never cleared because Schildt handled it calmly and didn’t go out there to physically put hands on Roberts. Similar situation last night where Schildt is yelling about his guy being hit and going to get tossed, but Roberts lost his cool and ran out to shove Schildt which caused benches to clear. Don’t get how you can issue identical penalties when Roberts is the aggressor
I agree Roberts should not have pushed Schildt.
Roberts pushing Schildt was a “cheap shop”.
Roberts should have at least stayed out front
to argue with Schildt face to face
and see if Schildt was pushing back or taking a swing at him.
The players and coaches would have separated them at that point.
But, Roberts pushing Schildt then running to hide behind a few rows of Dodgers players looked very weak and wimpy.
Ditto!
Mlb felt Schildt had it coming evidently
Schildt instigated by being the first to leave the dugout.
Guess you didn’t watch the game or the replays…Schildt left the dugout to check on his player. He didn’t go past home plate until Roberts came charging out at him.
So every time a manager comes out to argue/yell they’re instigating? You go out on the field hot and that’s instigation on the same level as a guy who gets physical? Come on.
The difference here is Roberts shoving the opposing manager (and then running away like a coward). He’s done this twice now, back in 2017 with Andy Green and again last night. Only other time I can ever recall two managers in a physical altercation was Phil Garner getting in a scrum with the White Sox manager in the 90’s. I’m not saying Schildt is a saint, but Roberts is way more culpable
Instigated? Typically the manager of the batter writhing in pain on the ground is given some leeway to run out to check on him. What said manager likely didn’t expect was that the opposing manager who has a well-documented habit of hitting said batter would choose that moment to also rush the manager of the injured player and physically assault him.
Physically assault him is pretty funny.
Lies
I thought so too fops
Couple of old bulls going at it. One old bull protecting his star steer, the other old bull protecting his young calf. Bit of a bump. No drama.
Laugh about it afterwards over a drinkand move on.
Sports only get serious to me when folks get hurt, otherwise it’s all for amusement. I was a little worried there for a moment that a manager might get hurt!
Ha ha. It was swinging handbags at 10 paces. The only danger was a popped aneurysm. Fired up old boys are hilarious.
To check on Tatis? I guess don’t do that anymore aye?
Like when Roberts went to check on ohtani and was yelling and bitching
That’s the literal definition
Dodgers are one of MLB’s “favored teams”
like the NYY.
If it was intentional they would’ve gone for Machado.
cool!
No way.
Dodgers would not go after the bigger, stronger guy like Machado.
They always pick on the smaller guys.
Tatis…great player.
But, he is not built like a football player like Machado or Kirk Gibson.
Dodgers won’t be hitting those guys because those guys pack serious
punch action in their bats and fists.
MLB had to do something to stand up for their poster child. Surprised they didn’t find a way to put Suarez in jail like they did Ohtani’s interpreter.
Ohtani and the Dodgers didn’t need a Padres suspension. He just rubbed some dirt on it, like we hope everyone would do.
Yes, it’s a well known fact that the FBI and the courts take orders from Rob Manfred.
Went light on Roberts who actually got physical. But then again what would you expect from this impotent commissioner’s office.
He left the dugout to check his star player at first while yelling towards the dodgers then directed it at Roberts, that’s when Roberts lost his cool and came out running and shoved Schildt. Schildt had every right to come out yelling at Roberts for continuing to pitch in and hit or almost hit Tatis and now his star player could have a broken bone. I’d be upset in the moment too. At least Schildt didn’t come out shoving and running
Any manager who comes out of a dugout yelling at anyone is going to be bounced. In fact, at that point, they are trying to get thrown out.
I would argue that Roberts by losing his mind and rushing up to Shildt and making physical contact (the elbow shove) should get the stiffer penalty. But I also can see why MLB gave equal suspensions; to ease the egos.
There’s not much else MLB can do really, the teams will likely self-police the situation over time. And that’s the way it used to work back in the later part of last century when this sort of thing would happen every week in MLB.
I’m glad Tatis isn’t hurt, he’s in the lineup tonight. So maybe we can now find some humor in all of this.
“I’m glad Tatis isn’t hurt,”
Me too
ROFL at Roberts bumping into Schildt deserving stiffer suspension. Watch it again, if bumping into someone deserves a stiffer penalty then both the Dodgers and Padres would have to forfeit tonight’s games for lack of players.
He will be soon enough given his injury history, competitive nature and the Padres insistence at getting him an extra 100+ at bats as the leadoff hitter. Pads need to bat him 3rd or 4th. He ain’t built to leadoff. Especially with his leaning into the plate. I get that he’s one of the best players in all of MLB and he’s phenomenal to watch but don’t be surprised if/when he goes down with maximum exposure. He’s not heavy enuff for it. Go for more regular season wins but lose him for the postseason? Yeah, go with that.
The conspiracy theorists in here are a riot. No wonder humanity is such a mess.
Roberts’ shove came at a 93.5-degree angle. That’s not possible. There was another shover!
He shoved him back and to the left, back and to the left
No one is surprised MLB went light on the Dodgers
The little brother inferiority complex strikes again.
C’mon Sal, that’s 2 very competitive teams (rivals?!?!?!) duking it out. No complex issues going on, just heat of the moment stuff. Shouldn’t Roberts have gotten a stiffer penalty than Schildt? What if the shoe was on the other foot, how would you feel then? We respect the Dodgers, but sometimes their fanbase prevents any good feelings from happening. The worst of the worst reside in Dodger Blue, but that’s not everybody.
Yes Gwynning I already posted that I don’t think Roberts had a right to push Schildt. But my inferiority complex comment refers to all this BS about MLB somehow conspiring to protect/favor the Dodgers in this incident. That’s a ridiculous, tired stance.
In a word, no. Schildt left the dugout first and said whatever he said to deliberately provoke Roberts, who at that point was still in his dugout. That’s what got action going. At this point, both managers know full well that they are going to be ejected and possibly suspended. What the fan bases believe or not is of no significance.
We all have our interpretation I suppose, as fans. But at what point did you abandon the thought that Shildt left the dugout initially to check on his star player who had just been hit? And maybe complain to the ump his deep frustration with all the times LAD has been hitting Tatis? That a screaming wildman came running up to Shildt and pushed him probably wasn’t something Shildt was soliciting, as outcomes go.
I don’t see any interpretation in the account, just a description of it. I am not taking sides in this debate either. All I am saying is we should understand what is actually happening when managers get involved in these arguments. They are intentionally trying to get thrown out of the game. Once this is accepted, the playground aspect of this that many fans like to obsess over becomes irrelevant. I am simply suggesting a more mature and informed point of view, knowing how unpopular and emotionally unsatisfying the suggestion will be.
But of course both managers knew they were going to be ejected, I don’t think anyone is arguing against that. Thanks for striving for maturity. I’m for it most of the time.
At the point that Schildt left his guy there and was screaming at the Dodgers dugout. Dont forget, in the League’s opinion the HBP was NOT intentional. But the Ohtani HBP the found to be intentional. So what is worse, bumping someone in a scrum? Or throwing a 100 mph fastball and drilling a guy. Schildt’s guy crossed the line, Schildt bears responsibility.
BlueSkies, You’re 100% taking sides if you don’t think Roberts started all this crap.
Thanks for confirming my argument. It really wasn’t necessary.
Right, so owning up to the fact that this is mostly theater gets you out of having to judge who deserves what punishment. Hate to play the I’m old enough to remember game, but I am old enough to remember when managers getting into each other’s faces as well as umpires was a regular part of the show.
None of our comments are necessary. But I accept your thanks.
None of *your comments are necessary, Brewski…
😛
Go Pads
@ Brew. FWIW, that comment was directed @ Guard not you.
I realize most fans believe they have to side with their tribe. My point being, this isn’t necessary or wise. I also know that this view is bound to be unpopular. It’s accurate nevertheless and ironically the more it is protested the more correct it becomes.
It is happening right before our very eyes and ears..
And announcers on MLB network come right out and say that they don’t care how many times Tatis Jr is hit.
“But no one in MLB should be allowed to hit Ohtani”…
Could it be any more obvious than that?!
MLB owns MLB Network.
It is their official mouthpiece for MLB baseball.
Fans are the money that makes MLB a profitable, viable sport.
Without the fans, MLB is nothing like it is presently.
Dodgers and Roberts crossed the line and recrossed it many times during this series.
How many Giants or Mets or D-Backs or Cubs have Dodgers manager and pitchers hit in a series this year?!they hit this year?!
@SportsFan
add these facts posted by our friend itsgood2btheking
3 hours ago
“Speaking of short memories…saw this post on an article in the athletic…
“Since Tatis jr debuted in 2019, Dodger pitchers have hit him 6 times.
Since 2019 SD pitchers have hit:
Will Smith 11 times
Max Muncy 9 times
Mookie 6 times
Matt Beaty(lol) 5 times(last played for LA in 21)
Freddie Freeman 4 times
Chris Taylor 4 times
And you’ve heard f___-all from the dodgers about any of it.”
Since when do bloviating comentators on MLBtv set policy? Get real.
P.S.
Ohtani has been hit 25 times in his 8 years in MLB, 9 times as a Dodger.
Tatis has been hot 26 times in 7 years, including the one year he was suspended for illegal drug use.
I guess MLB better work harder protecting Ohtani.
You said a whole bunch of words and ended up not saying much at all blueskies
I didn’t set out to make more than a simple point. The extra words are for those who didn’t understand it.
No one who watched the games is surprised. None of the padres players were hit intentionally. Whereas with Ohtani it was intentional both times. Suarez hasn’t hit anyone since 2022 before last night.
So you represent the millions of fans who watched the game and have done extensive polling on this issue?!
Bullsheet!
Any objective observer outside of Dodgersland can see the Dodgers
were intentionally hitting Padres hitters trying to intimidate the Padres players, coaches and managers.
The Padres had no choice but to retaliate or let the Dodgers
walk all over them.
This isn’t over.
These teams play again in August?!
It is just getting started.
“this isn’t over”
ooh. frightening.
What nonsense. The Padres have hit the Dodgers 67 times since Tatis’ debut, while the Dodgers have hit the Padres 39 times . Will Smith has been hit twice as much as Tatis. Andy Pages and Shohei were both hit twice in this four game series and at least one of the times it was determined by MLB that it was on purpose with a 100 MPH fastball that was aimed at the head (he had to get out of his batting stance and turn his body to get hit on the upper back)..
What the padres or their fans feel does not dictate MLB policy nor will it dictate how another organization decides to pitch to a batter. .
All of these high and mighty but completely fake morality plays come off as silly and definitely not convincing. It’s pretty wild that some can’t restrain themselves from arguing about a game situation as though it happened for the first time just the other night, when in reality, it is as old as baseball itself.
as a giants fan I find that lou trivino hitting bryce johnson in part a dodgers/padres feud hilarious.
Yeah, who had that on their NL West bingo card?!?
Most teams pitch Tatis inside. Most teams pitch Machado outside. And sometimes, it rains…
Hitting Tatis is no big deal as everyone knows he has ways to recover from injury faster than others. 😛
Nevermind. I’ll write it nicer.
To hell with Dave Roberts. He’s going to shove the wrong person at some point. And to hell with MLB for giving him an effective pass for it twice.
They assume the Dodgers haven’t meant to buzz Tatis the umpteen times they’ve done it, but Suarez was for sure intentional to Golden Boy. Yeah, ok.
B.S.
MLB bias at it once again. There should be equivalent suspensions for both pitchers and managers.
Jack Little was sent back to Triple-A OKC after the game, otherwise he would’ve faced a suspension.
Roberts and Dodgers did that on purpose.
Put in a rookie called up from AAA to hit
an opposing Padres player.
Then, Dodgers player is sent back to minors after
the game and a Dodgers major league bullpen piece is not
facing suspension?!
That was certainly a planned move
and proves that hitting Tatis Jr WAS INTENTIONAL.
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Not a fan of either team. Padres fans are moronic to think they purposely hit Tatis there lol
I don’t think anyone thinks a kid making his debut did that on purpose. But as a coaching staff, with a young guy (probably called up too soon in desperation for a warm body to take the mound), you shift your game plan away from pitching up and in. We all know that’s the strategy against Tatis, but you have to be a smarter manager in that situation. Ultimately, that’s how we got here. Roberts is fully culpable.
Tatis is trying to claim the inside part of the plate. Dodgers are trying to take it back by pitching inside. Sometimes when you’re on your 16th to 20th pitcher, inside is a bit too inside.
The Dodgers had a guy that did the same thing as Tatis. He was always among the league leaders in hit by pitch. His name was Justin Turner.
Many clubs are too scared of hitting the batter crowding the plate. Which allows the batter to only have to guard a portion of the plate. It’s Baseball 101 to claim it back.
Tatis is stubborn. Justin was stubborn. And pitchers don’t have as much control these days. The Dodgers expect their pitchers to reclaim that space to be more effective.
For everyone saying a pitcher that doesn’t have control shouldn’t pitch inside, Tatis can always back up a little as well. It goes both ways.
That’s why Justin always went into the box with a suit of armor on.
Sure, but hit him 3 times in 9 days, and reprisal is coming.
Sure, but not towards his head. Hit him in the butt or thigh. If your closer is going to run it high and in across the plate at 98, that’s not cool.
Even the old school players know that. And did that. Then again, if it was old school baseball Tatis wouldn’t crowd the plate nearly as much.
Suarez was struggling with his command. For all we know he was aiming for the buttocks
Then Padres fans should be happy he got suspended. It works in their favor while the Padres try to get past San Francisco in the standings.
I think everyone got the rest they deserve
Tatis stands in the middle of the box with an open stance, please tell me how that is crowding the plate and even close to comparable to Turner putting his toes on the chalk with a squared up stance…the HBP numbers might be similar, but it’s not for the same reason.
Sure, but hit him 3 times in 9 days, and reprisal is coming.
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I agree 100%. You have to protect your players. You have to send a message to be more careful.
I heard about this guy named Forrest who was shot in the buttocks.
They are not similar at all. Padres fans are just making a hayday out of a very small sample size of games most of which the Dodgers have been trotting out AAAA pitchers. The Padres are trying to make a big show of it to somehow intimidated the Dodgers to not pitch effectively against Tatis.
Why?
Why does the opponent get dictate how a you pitch to a player?
Hitting Tatis Jr CERTAINLY INTENTIONAL especially hitting Tatis Jr with a player on the shuttle to the minor leagues and not losing a Dodgers reliever to a multiple game suspension.
Haha nope
Old school fuddy duddy time again… I have limited sympathy for players who get hit on the hands like that. Proper technique is to turn away from the pitch and take it on the shoulder, back, or at worst the tricep. Used to be everyone knew that, but Let The Kids Play or something. Now get off my lawn.
I love that Shildt was all up in arms about needing to clean things up when HIS pitchers were the only ones who threw at players intentionally. Once at Ohtani’s knee and once at his head. But oh no the Dodgers are the dirty ones. Ok
Free Norberg!
Wish I could reply with the gif of him going down the stairs out of control in his wheelchair
The flip always makes me chuckle, cheers brah!
Dodgers were intentionally hitting Padres players.
Study the history.
Dodgers hit more Padres players than any other teams’ players by far.
It is part of their rivalry.
Prove it genius.
Honestly, I think this should be entirely on the managers for this one, and both should’ve had more time put on them as well as a fine. Both Shildt and Roberts lost complete control of their teams at various moments, especially Shildt and his contingent. I can’t imagine anything will change if either of them don’t work towards getting both teams to chill out towards each other.
Of course there was like 8 HBPs that whole series and the only one to get a suspension was the guy who hit the MLB poster child lol
Robert Suarez got run for intentionally throwing at a batter after both dugouts were warned. That’s also why the acting skipper Brian Esposito got the heave-ho.
The supervisor of umpires is going to take a long hard look at that entire series and make sure nothing unwarranted happens the next time those 2 teams meet.
Dodgers hit Padres player Iglesias
AFTER BOTH BENCHES HAD BEEN WARNED BY UMPIRES
AND NO EJECTIONS OF DODGERS PITCHER AND MANAGER?!
THAT JUST ESCALATED THE SITUATION.
Naughty boys!
perfect summary Yorky!
Two sundry comments:
1-You’re not allowed to touch Ohtani.
2-While some of the HBP might’ve been unintentional, if you have too many, you still have to retaliate.
Retaliate. Just dont be whiny when the fines and suspensions come down.
Slap on wrist doesn’t hurt as bad
as a fastball to the wrist!
Beaning players intentionally really needs to be removed from the game. These token suspensions mean little to the overall regular season standings. If teams lost draft picks and players were suspensions counted towards the postseason, this garbage would end pretty fast.
Baseball doesn’t need violence.
“garbage”
An appropriate reference from a TrashStros fan.
Watched the whole series. Dodgers fan. There were only two intentional HBP’s – both against Ohtani. Suarez 100% hit Ohtani on purpose. Not cool that high. The first one hit him in the thigh. Everyone understands that. Suarez should have been suspended. If he had injured Ohtani would have been more than 3 games. Ohtani pure class and understands unwritten rules of baseball. Unicorn.
Now, clearly Little had no intention of hitting Tatis. And Tatis was leaning in. But I get the Padres’ anger – and I kind of agree with the thinking that sure we know it was not intentional, but then don’t put a minor leaguer in to mop up if you’re not sure he can control his pitches. But clearly not intentional. So maybe don’t hit Ohtani and maybe not that high.
But let’s also call it what it partly was – frustration at losing three straight.
August, baby!
Also, props to Tatis who handled it pretty well too.
Much better than his manager. As a baseball fan I’m glad he is maturing into someone I enjoy watching again.
Need to bring back pitchers hitting. Not sure what those players did to get hit but if the pitcher was actually having to hit, he would get a taste of his own medicine and move on. MLB got rid of that release valve for players and now they have to micromanage these things.
TLDR: SD fans complain about everything
Oh and Ohtani is a bigger man than everyone: players, fans, casuals, the pope…
Dodgers bench coach gets a chance to manage. Facing a tough left hander, he benches Freeman and Muncy…and plays Conforto. Ugh.
You don’t really think Roberts didn’t make up the lineup? Come on. He told Kiké he was playing tonight during last night’s post-game presser.
Maybe guys like Ohtani wouldn’t be so comfortable in the batters box if pitchers did throw inside more. You most likely wouldn’t see these inflated HR numbers if more guys pitched like Ryan, Seaver, Gibson , Randy Johnson etc
If u are gonna hit someone intentionally u are not doing it on a 3-0 count. You are doing it on the first pitch…99 to the middle of his back. I dont think either was intentional but the weight of the suspension makes it look like the Padres incited the bean ball fest all weekend. Its utterly ridiculous
Roberts is a clown! The Doyer’s would be better off without him! Tough guy chest bumping into Shildt, what a joke! And the Doyer’s and Pages thinking he was intentionally HBP? No one is EVER intentionally hitting that nobody! 🤣
I was pleased and relieved to see Tatis Jr. play this evening. Hopefully, both teams can move on from this and let it go.
More BS Dodger bias. If ANY other manager bumps another manager, he would get 5 games. MLB is such a joke.
Tatis needs to invest in a hand and wrist guard for the next series. Or back off the plate….
If he doesn’t, that’s a him problem. With the money he’s saving not buying tainted meat, he should be able to afford some protectors.
Most other teams are not hitting Tatis Jr.
It usually only the Dodgers.
It means it is intentional.
Tatis is the only guy to cry bout crowding the plate. You have to pitch Tatis in to get an out. Just take the base. Boo hoo hoo….
@SportsFan
wrong. try using facts not words you pull out of your ***
Dodger pitchers have hit Tatis 6 times in his career. Tatis has been hit TWENTY times by other teams.
Seriously, it’s like Tatis and Padre fan expect Dodgers pitchers to leave pitches down the middle or on the outer half, so he can rake. C’mon, man….
Only mistake made by Padres Acting manager was not bringing
in the last guy in the Padres bullpen to hit Ohtani.
Then, bringing in their closer to replace the guy hitting Ohtani.
That would have matched the Dodgers move of bringing
in a relief pitcher with his bags already packed for the AAA shuttle
to hit Tatis Jr. and serve his suspension in AAA.
It’s all a conspiracy….
Good thing Padres didn’t need a closer last night, right?
Suarez was available. He appealed the suspension.
Then he’ll likely miss a game where they might actually need a closer. Excellent.