The Marlins will be without outfielder Kyle Stowers for several weeks after he suffered a Grade 1 strain in his left side, manager Clayton McCullough informed reporters (link via Christina De Nicola of MLB.com). He’ll go on the 10-day injured list before tomorrow’s series finale in Boston. Daniel Álvarez-Montes of El Extrabase first reported that Miami will recall Joey Wiemer from Triple-A Jacksonville in the corresponding move.
Stowers felt the discomfort on a swing early in Friday’s game. He stayed in for the rest of the contest but lingering soreness sent him for imaging today. A Grade 1 strain is of the lowest severity, but even relatively minor side/oblique strains can cost hitters upwards of a month. Stowers seems likely to miss most of the remaining schedule.
It’ll hopefully be no more than a blip for Miami’s breakout slugger. Stowers earned his first All-Star selection and has a .288/.368/.544 slash line across 457 plate appearances. He has hit 25 home runs and had a good shot at cracking the 30-homer mark had he stayed healthy. While he’d fallen into a bit of a slump in August, he was the National League Player of the Month in July thanks to a monster .364/.451/.818 showing with 10 longballs in 24 games. That not coincidentally overlapped with Miami’s 15-10 showing last month, offering a hint of Stowers’ ability to carry a lineup when he’s going well.
Dane Myers has spent a good chunk of this season as the starting center fielder. He has ceded playing time since Jakob Marsee was promoted to take the center field job. Myers will probably get more playing time in left field. Wiemer, who was claimed off waivers from the Royals a couple weeks ago, is now in line for his team debut in a rotational corner outfield role.
Future is bright, let him rest and comeback next season, that team is closer than many realize.
Per baseball reference Trevor Rogers is worth 3.7 WAR this year to Stowers’ 3.6. I thought Fish had fleeced the O’s getting Stowers and Norby, guess 2021 was not a fluke for Rogers after all.
The crazy part is the deal was for Norby, Stowers was a throw in. I thought the Os were fleeced but Rogers has been pitching like us Os fans rarely get to see. Only get 1 more season of Rogers so still could be a big win for the Marlins but its a lot more even right now then most realize
As a Marlins fan, I’m glad we have Stowers, and we get to see what Norby is after he’s healthy again and hopefully continues to develop.
As for the WAR mention, I think it’s very safe to say that WAR has never shown how much better a team is based on that formulated stat. Anyone that thinks that Rogers has impacted the O’s season anywhere close to what Stowers has impacted the Marlins season, simply is not watching the game.
Stowers put the Marlins on his back in July, it was fun to watch. I agree with your points but im telling you as an Os fan, its rare we get to look forward to a starting pitching outing. He hasn’t been good, hes been dominant. I would take Stowers back obviously but the Os really did believe they had an overflow of outfield prospects. They were wrong but im way less hurt about it seeing Rogers deal every start. Also, its 2026 im worried about now and Rogers looks like a nice addition to the rotation for next season
Um, your statement in the previous post about that trade was “…but its a lot more even right now then most realize…” that is far different from ” its rare we get to look forward to a starting pitching outing. He hasn’t been good, hes been dominant.” And when you follow that up with “They were wrong but im way less hurt about it seeing Rogers deal every start.”
It seems that the trade, for the moment, is a fleece. You have to hope that every success that Stowers has as a hitter is matched by Rogers as a pitcher, and then you will still have to hope that Norby doesn’t do anything at all for this not to be a fleece. It’s not a good time to say that it’s more even than most people realize. I’ll use a little hyperbole for my point. Assessing it that way would open the door for it to be said of any trade, even one where a team gave away a star for a piece that everyone equated to a box of popcorn, but then the return is better than a box of popcorn, so we can say the trade is not as bad as people realize. If you give up a lot more than you got back, it’s a bad trade. You got fleeced. Why go try to say it’s ” more even” or essentially, not as bad as people realize because you may have some moral victory to hold onto.
Of course, we still need to see the longer body of work for all of these players involved. But as of now, this was a big steal for Bendix.
Your reading comprehension is as bad as your opinion
Wait…I quoted your statements, and you’re saying that I have bad reading comprehension?
Quoting your statements! Really?
never rly fit in with the o’s
he’s having a remarkable turnaround season with miami
I still have a feeling that Miami trades Stowers within the next year or year and a half. It’s just what they seem to do once players start establishing themselves and they start losing years of control. They have some promising young outfield talent, especially with the power Aldermen has and Marse already up now. They have some great pitching coming as well. It’s unfortunate, because they could be a very good team with all the young talent, especially the pitching. With Phillys roster aging and the Mets heading down that road too, some questions in Atlanta, Miami could have a brief opening to do some really exciting things in the foreseeable future if the roster and team are managed properly.
Keep harping on that old ESPN narrative. It’s getting antiquated day by day.
Everyone else heard the one that ESPN and FOX Sports refuses to cover due to it takes away from their northeast coverage, in that the Marlins are aiming to run their team with Rays success, but with a little more budget than them…and that the next CBA could affect things further with what they spend.
It’s not a narrative. I lived in Miami and although not my hometown team, I followed the Marlins as they shipped out player after player after player and then had hope that the new ownership would change, only to see similar results. I moved back to my hometown in 2018 but continued to watch players like Lopez get traded to MN and then Luzzardo to Philly. Alcantara is likely going this offseason. So until the narrative changes, it’s very much current. Hoping they prove everyone wrong finally, but until then it seems to be business as usual.
Oh and if they ran their team like the Rays but with more financial might, they wouldn’t have been as miserable as they were. Trust me, my team was just as miserable from 2018-2023 and at several intervals before then too, so I get it.
So you think getting Arraez for Lopez was a dump? Um, how did the Marlins do that year they traded Lopez to get Arraez? Was Lopez traded for a package of prospects or was he and another player traded for Arraez? Hmmm…
With Luzardo, um, did we have problems filling our SPs? I’m looking at the Marlins starting staff, and for some reason, other than the unexpected injuries, we seem to have a full staff. And let me see. How are the Marlins doing this year without Luzardo? Is he having a season that makes him a missed piece?
Do you know any of the logic behind the trades with the new ownership? I’m a Marlins fan since Day 1. I follow everything with them. It seems just in your little mention, you followed the ESPN script. Now show you actually know the team and break down the trades under the new ownership. There was clear logic why many Marlins fans supported those trades. But I’d love to see you show that you’re not just repeating the ESPN narrative and actually can break down those trades. And I’ll confirm whether you know enough like someone that actually followed the team or if it’s just repeating ESPN. And when I say it’s ESPN repeating, I’ll support it with the facts in rebuttal.
So, please do contuniue with it…or just admit that you’re repeating the same ole ESPN narrative.
I’ll address your mention of Alcantara after I see your follow up.
First, as I mentioned Miami is NOT my favorite/hometown team. I started following them the year they moved into the new stadium and didn’t follow them nearly as closely as my favorite team, but enough to understand what was going on with Loria and then into the new ownership, Jeter leaving, Kim Ng coming and leaving, etc.
Even though I don’t really owe you any explanation, I have followed the team enough to know that out of the talent they got from flipping Arraez to SD, Marse is the one who has the potential to contribute now/moving forward and looks good in his, what 15-20 games so far this year. Head won’t contribute anything anytime soon, he’s likely 4+ years away, but I do believe he was considered the one with the biggest ceiling if I remember correctly. In regard to the trade with Philly, the prospect (Caba) that came back was another very young player, and one that probably has the potential to be the best out of all of those mentioned, but again, probably 3 years or so away.
The point being, the Marlins have always had promising young talent and they continue to get away/sent out (Realmto, Yelich, Jazz, Stanton, Ozuna, Marte, etc). Who have they extended over the years – Alcantara and Rojas? Stanton was the monster contract, which did surprise but I don’t believe for a second that the plan was ever to keep him, because, well, Loria.
Despite your defensive stance about the Marlins and insistence that I know nothing about the team, not everyone is a casual baseball fan that hangs on whatever word comes from the ESPN studio or whatever it was you said. In fact, my team, the Orioles, and Miami have various things in common, to include constantly being back burner coverage compared to NY, LA and the other mainstream national baseball darlings. As I mentioned in my initial comment, Miami has a window of opportunity coming and the talent to take great advantage of it, I would love to see nothing but great things from Miami, just like Baltimore.
And here we go.
Your first two paragraphs are a matter of opinion, but still show misinformation. And you still didn’t answer about that Lopez trade for Arraez and your mentioning it as one of those dump off trades. Backtracking with what happened after doesn’t hide what you orinally said about that trade of Lopez.
Now to the paragraph where you mention the other traded players. I’ll start wth Yelich, Realmuto, and Marte because your statement wreaks of ESPN narrative. First, Yelich was signed to a team friendly deal early on, and the Marlins with the new ownership wanted to extend him and build the new team around him. He asked to be traded. With Realmuto, you show even more missed information that ESPN doesn’t cover. The Marlins also wanted to extend Realmuto so they had both him and Yelich as their position player rebuilds. Realmuto was even offered a contract extension that was higher than what he got from Philly when they re-signed him. Realmuto refused to sign the extension, and also asked for a trade. The Marlins were trying to sign both Yelich and Realmuto to long term deals, but they both refused and asked for trades. Now to Marte…the Marlins traded him after they were well out of contention, after he refused to sign the extension the Marlins offered because he wanted a fourth year which the Marlins refused to give. In the offseason, the Marlins attempted to sign him back, but again, they were not willing to give the 4th year, which the Mets were willing to give…along with them giving additional AAV to convince him to walk away from the Marlins deal because he wanted to play back with the Marlins due to his family. The situations with Yelich, Realmuto, and Marte that you state pretty much was not a good idea for you to add in in this discussion if you’re trying to make your statement without the stench of ESPN lazy journalism when it comes to teams that don’t play in NY or Boston.
Now to Stanton. There is not one single Marlins fan over 12 years old that isn’t thrilled about that trade. Not one We suckered the Yankees into taking that contract. But I’m guessing you mention that because you bought into the ESPN and FOX Sports propaganda that “Jeter gifted Stanton to the Yankees”. To the entire South Florida sports scene, that is the trade that keeps on giving good humor every single time Stanton shows why we wanted to get rid of that contract. And this is just on the surface because there’s more under it. Loria had no intention to pay that deal and it was clear when he did, among other deals he did, with the deferred money, it was known he was going to sell the team after he got the All star Game…and leave the salary mess to the new ownership.
With Jazz, again, placing his name is straight out of ESPN, FOX Sports and overall sports pop culture because Jazz is not a stud. He walks with swag, but he doesn’t perfom like a player that has earned the swag. And FYI, he was a favorite to young fans and pop culture fans – not real baseball fans of the Marlins. He was essentially our modern day Chuck Carr when he was with us…drama queen, immaturity and all that hurts the talent he has. Anyone that follwed the Marlins for 5 minutes would know the difference between the fans the liked him and the many that didn’t.
And I’ll now cover Alcantara. He has had a bad season. The Marlins are set on getting max value for him. Due to his bad season, that was not there at the deadline. It may not be there this offseason, and only until he pitches next season. But there is an issue that may arise. If he’s pitching well next season, with ther est of the talent on this team, the Marlins could very well be in the playoff race. And that’s with hoping that he pitches well. Some of his current state reminds me of another great pitcher we had who got injured, but never recuperated – Josh Johnson. There’s a chance we may get stuck with him if he doesn’t rebound.
Now I’ll address a bit of the current ownership’s rebuild that ESPN and FOX Sports spins a false narrative about due to lazy reporting. When they bought the team, it was after the death of Jose Fernandez. People that aren’t aware of the Marlins do not understand how that hurt the organzation greatly. In the year of that tragedy, the Marlins were well built, but lacked some pitching support behind Fernandez. Wei-Yin Chen was at the beginning of his arm falling off. A once promising Henderson Alvarez’s arm fell off. The team made it clear that they were going to be active in the offseason (as reported everywhere except ESPN and FOX Sports) to get a #2 behind Fernandez. And the rumor reported every (except the two lazy reporting networks) was that the Marlins were going to target Johnny Cueto. Unfortunately, Fernandez died before the season ended. In the offseason, the Marlins did pursue Cueto, but to be a replacement for Fernandez instead of the planned for co-Ace. They in fact were reported to have made the highest offer, but Cueto wanted the more built team with the Giants instead of the upcoming Marlins. The reality is that the Marlins would have had to spend a ton to support the offense they put together, because their pitching sucked…and no longer having an Ace at a bargain price hurt them. As was explained in many discussions in South Florida, the Marlins would have had to sign Cueto, Darvish, and Arrieta at the time in order to have a chance of supporting their lineup. That would’ve put the Marlins well over $200 million in payroll (closer to $225+ million) – an amount that they couldn’t support at the time. They were never going to be able to afford to build a pitching staff to support that offense. That is the reality of that situation, so the Marlins had to sell off. But of course, ESPN and FOX Sports finds it easier to go with the lazy narrative of ‘it’s what the Marlins do’ instead of actually doing their jobs and reporting the FACTS about a team that isn’t located in NY or Boston.
As for you not hanging on every word ESPN says, you sure seem to have your knowledge of the Marlins from them as a source because you clearly have not been paying attention to what really happens with the Marlins. It”s hard for me to not see your statements as not being ESPB regurgitation when your info is not accurate to the situation and falls right in line with their narrative. “The Marlins always trade their players in firesales because it’s what they do”. Absolutely not accurate as explained above.
And I’m not reading any of that or pursuing any further dialogue with you, not because of debating actual baseball knowledge or discussion, but because of your continued attitude and tone that not only comes across as standoffish and patronizing, but your inability to understand that everything you continue to chirp back with is a matter of your opinion and is subjective, just like everyone else, and your opinion is not superior to or outweighs anyone else’s.
Cited facts are not opinions. Unless you’re one of those “alternative points of view of the facts” people…which sure as heck would fall into the ESPN way to justify lazy reporting.
So the trade worked out for both teams? Not so much “strange” as “fortunate”
The Orioles will not fail to compete next season. They will be a wild card team at the least. They need to extend him in the offseason. Unless they plan on playing out the contract, going as far as they can next season and then doing the qualifying offer and draft pick compensation when he goes elsewhere. It depends on how they think they can extract the most value but extending him is likely the preferred route.
Hopefully the guy comes back and does the exact same things that he has been doing. As an O’s guy, I kinda see Kjerstad following that same path, don’t think he’ll benefit with sticking with Baltimore but I can see him taking advantage of an opportunity elsewhere.
Watching Stowers rip a pair of doubles last night you’d never know he was in pain. Looks like a solid hitter, hopefully for the Fish he’s not out for long
At this point, it’s fine if Stowers takes the bulk of the rest of the season. The Marlins recent play has completely taken them out of the small playoff chance they had. Now, their goal is really to see if they can bounce back to finish .500. It’s best to let Stowers heal, let the younger players gain more experience, and see what else we have that’s MLB-ready for next year’s team.
I’m enjoying this team, and looking forward to next season.
Kinda confuzzled – Side Strain – is this different than oblique strain – what gives
LMGTFY
He was putting up one of the greatest seasons in Marlins history, but of course…
They do have a couple of people to call up, though there are also injuries in the minor leagues to at least 1 of those
Yeah. For me, I’m fine if he heals the rest of the season and we check out what additonal players we have for next year.
Interesting with the OF, it looks like the Marlins are checking on Myers and Hill as much as those two have been playing, despite their struggles. Seems one or maybe both could be non-tendered this offseason to keep an OF of Stowers, Marsee, Conine, and Hernandez…with our new, younger version of Jon Berti…Javier Sanoja.
Hoping to see them give a look at De Los Santos in September because, despite his sturggles this year, I’m more interested in seeing him instead of seeing Wagaman.