The Astros officially announced the signing of right-hander Tatsuya Imai to a three-year contract that allows him to opt out after each of the first two seasons. It’s reportedly a $54MM guarantee for the NPB star, who’ll collect a $2MM signing bonus and $16MM salary next year. He’s owed respective $18MM salaries between 2027-28. Imai, a client of the Boras Corporation, would reportedly escalate his 2027 salary by $2MM apiece at reaching 80, 90 and 100 innings next year. His ’28 salary would also climb by $1MM at each of those thresholds, meaning the total value can jump another $9MM.
Meanwhile, the Lions will receive a posting fee based on Imai’s $54MM guarantee. The current system for international postings gives the original club 20% of the first $25MM, 17.5% of the next $25MM, and 15% of anything over $50MM. That works out to $9.975MM, so the Astros are on the hook for just under $64MM between the contract’s guaranteed money and the posting fee. If Imai opts out next season, Houston will have committed $27.975MM for one year of his services. The Astros would also owe a 15% posting fee to the Lions on any escalators that Imai unlocks if he doesn’t opt out.
Imai was one of the top starters available in free agency and coming off a career-best 1.92 ERA season with the Saitama Seibu Lions of Japan’s Nippon Professional Baseball. It was reported several days ago that he was meeting with teams in-person in advance of his January 2 signing deadline. The Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Phillies, and Orioles were among the clubs interested in signing him, so the Astros are a bit of a surprise destination.
We at MLBTR ranked Imai No. 7 on our Top 50 Free Agents list and projected him for a six-year, $150MM contract. This deal with Houston comes in at half the length of that projection, with around a third of the guaranteed money. It appeared that Imai had other offers on the table for longer terms but lower AAVs (link via Mark Feinsand of MLB.com). The opt-outs in his deal with Houston allow him to try for a bigger contract in future offseasons if he can prove himself in MLB.
Imai is 27 years old (28 in May) and has pitched to a 3.15 ERA in 963 2/3 career NPB innings. He debuted in 2018 at age 20 and made 16 appearances (15 starts), but struggled with a 4.97 ERA. Those early struggles continued from 2019-20. In the pandemic season, Imai had a 6.13 ERA in 61 2/3 innings and walked more batters than he struck out, which resulted in him temporarily being moved to the bullpen. He rebounded in 2021, posting a 3.30 ERA in 158 1/3 innings with an improved strikeout rate, and he has stuck as a starting pitcher ever since.
That kicked off a run of dominance from 2022-25. After posting a 2.41 ERA in nine starts with the Lions in 2022, Imai followed up with a 2.30 ERA and a 24.4% strikeout rate in 133 innings in 2023. While he did walk 11.4% of hitters that year, his strikeout and walk numbers improved year over year from 2023-25. This year, he struck out 27.8% of hitters (highest among qualified NPB starters) and walked just 7.0%. His 20.7% K-BB rate was third-best in that league. Imai also did very well at keeping the ball in the yard, allowing just six home runs all season (0.33 HR/9) and inducing groundballs 48.3% of the time. Overall, he enters the majors with a higher ceiling and much-improved control compared to his early career.
In terms of stuff, Imai profiles as a mid-rotation starter in the majors. His fastball sits in the mid-90s and can reach 99 mph, and he also throws a slider, splitter, and changeup. His excellent performance from 2022-25 made him an attractive target in free agency, although some evaluators were concerned about his secondary stuff and past struggles with control. It seemed that industry opinion was mixed on whether he could succeed as a big-league starter, which resulted in the lower-than-expected guarantee.
At the time of his posting, a $150MM deal seemed like a real possibility. These days, teams value youth and upside and are willing to pay a premium to get it. Recent offseasons have seen players like Juan Soto and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. sign for over a decade and at least $500MM in guaranteed money. Among Asian players, right-hander Yoshinobu Yamamoto and outfielder Jung Hoo Lee came to the majors after their age-24 seasons and earned $100M+ deals. Imai is several years older than Yamamoto was when he signed and has a shorter track record as a front-of-the-rotation arm. While he was never going to match Yamamoto’s deal, Imai’s year-over-year improvement and relative youth were enough for the Astros to want him in their rotation.
Houston’s interest was not widely known, though it makes sense that they wanted another starting pitcher. Longtime ace Framber Valdez is currently a free agent. The team has had some discussions with Valdez’s camp, though the expectation is that he will sign elsewhere on a pricier contract. Hunter Brown was phenomenal in 2025, totaling 185 1/3 innings with a 2.43 ERA. That figure was third-best among qualified starters, trailing only Cy Young winners Paul Skenes and Tarik Skubal. He also posted an 85th-percentile strikeout rate and a 77th-percentile groundball rate. Altogether, he was worth 4.6 fWAR and finished third in AL Cy Young voting. He’ll return as the staff ace in 2026.
Behind Brown, the rotation looks shaky. Cristian Javier currently projects as the No. 2 starter. He owns a 3.66 ERA in 538 career innings, but he pitched just 71 2/3 innings from 2024-25 due to Tommy John surgery. In just 37 innings this year, Javier had a 4.62 ERA with a 21.7% strikeout rate and a 9.6% walk rate. He is under contract through 2027. Meanwhile, Lance McCullers Jr. has had his own injury troubles, pitching just 103 innings in the past four years and missing 2023-24 entirely. Even if he performs well in 2026, the team will monitor his workload carefully. The recently-acquired Mike Burrows will play some role. He had a 3.94 ERA in 96 innings this year with an impressive 16.4% K-BB rate, though his overall track record is fairly minimal.
The addition of Imai gives the Astros a durable No. 2 or 3 starter at an affordable rate. It remains to be seen how his strikeout and groundball potential will translate against major-league hitting, though the club is surely hoping he can maintain his performance from Japan. The signing brings the Astros’ projected payroll to $242MM, according to RosterResource. The club was a second-time luxury tax payor this year and is hoping to avoid paying it for a third time. The first luxury tax threshold for 2026 is $244MM, so the club will likely need to shed payroll if it wants to add to other areas of the roster.
With Imai now off the board, any clubs in need of a starter will need to look elsewhere. Dylan Cease was the top free agent pitcher entering the offseason and has since signed with the Blue Jays. Valdez, Ranger Suarez, Zac Gallen, Chris Bassitt, and Lucas Giolito are still available in free agency. Valdez and Suarez are front-of-the-rotation options, while Gallen, Bassitt and Giolito are cheaper, mid-rotation arms.
Jon Heyman of The New York Post first reported the Astros and Imai had agreed to a deal. ESPN’s Jesse Rogers was first on the three-year term with opt-outs after the first two seasons. Heyman reported the $54MM guarantee and $9MM in escalators at 80-100 innings, while Ronald Blum of The Associated Press was first on the signing bonus and specific escalator breakdown.

Surprises me.
Oh snap!
Congratulations Houston and fans! Excellent signing here! Expect an opt out after the season though.
Not if he sucks!
He’s goin’ suck, You sure? Doubt it. Delusional Yankee fans thought he was goin to the Bronx, when Uncle Hal said no!
Yankees did not even send a rep to talk to him let alone have interest. At 3/54 he got a 3rd of what dreamer Scott Boras was trying to get and Bellinger soon is going to find out the same.
99: No actual fan thought he was Bronx bound. Curry said he wasn’t on the radar and Boone said he’d heard nothing about any meetings.
OP you replied to is correct “if” he sucks he won’t opt out. You could say that about any deal with opt outs…
Japanese pitchers have faired well generally in America. This guys not without risks (a bit small, larger ball, more workload). I like the signing from the Astros perspective but it’s far from a coup at this point.
As usual, your delusional rantings anti Yankee make no sense…..Jack Curry, who normally has an inside track on Yankee rumors has been saying for weeks that the Yankees were not even discussing this guy, so Yankee fans didn’t think he was coming to the Bronx…crawl back into the hole man…..
You’re being to kind to this guy…he makes no sense 99% of the time…..anti Yankee to the bone….
Delusional Yankee fans thought he was goin to the Bronx
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I heard no stories about him going to the Yankees, and few Yankee fans talking about him.
But right after he puts up decent numbers.
Do you guys like Jack Curry over Joel Sherman ?
Anthony- I did not hear much buzz about Imai in general compared to the last few pitchers who were aces posted by Japanese teams (maybe the offensive players were getting all the headlines). While there are no guarantees and definite risk, the recent track record for these pitchers has been solid enough that I was disappointed the Red Sox did not take a shot at him. The contract seems low for a potential difference maker. On this website they predicted 6 years at $150 million so was expecting something more like that.
He didn’t say he was absolutely going to suck, 99Captain. He correctly pointed out he won’t opt out if he sucks.. There’s a reason his market was tepid. There are legitimate question marks at how he’ll translate to MLB. The Astros are good at up-leveling pitchers, so it will be interesting to watch. Boras negotiated a good contract here. If he’s good, he can head right back into free agency and get the big deal. If he’s mediocre, Boras got him around $60 million.
As for Yankee fans, as others have noted, he wasn’t heavily connected to the Yankees, although some hoped maybe they’d sign him. They certainly could at this price, Were Cubs fans delusional for thinking their team might sigh him?
What is this Sherman you speak of? Does it go well with rice? Or yams?
I know it is surprising, but no, a Sherman is not an alcoholic beverage. I gave those up in my New Year’s resolutions. I also need to find a wife, buy a car, and rent an apartment.
Same. Not sure which of the 3 is easiest. Maybe buy the wife, rent the car, save on apartment.
Also if I lost 20 pounds, I think that could only help in the wife department. ‘Tis the season for a new & improved dad bod. (although not a technical father, but I could fake it till I make it depending on the fake technical wife.)
the Yankees have a rotation. An expensive one.
Cole, Rodon, Schlittler, Warren, Fried, and Gil is a pretty good group to pick from.
Yeah, sorry it wasn’t the Angels, but Texas has more advantageous tax laws, and a better organization..
True dat but low bar. Our cat is better organized than the Angels. And Texas you have to deal with big hair in extreme heat and chinchillas. Tho points back for Austin and 24/7 Taco Cabana
99- This seems like a very reasonable price even without him being proven in the majors. Based on the track record of star Japanese pitchers, I have a feeling other teams are going to regret not getting in on the bidding. Maybe it was the opt outs that made the difference.
@Uncle- I agree with all your comments 100%.
Shame on the Cubs, especially if this reported short term contract is accurate. 🙁
They were never a player.
Man shut up hahaha
@sportingdissent- Yes, they never were. The Cubies unfortunately never spend $. (They gave up) Imai never wanted to go to Chicago anyway.
Captain, not saying youre wrong because I honestlyndon’t know, but what makes you say that he didnt want to Chicago
coop- he truly didn’t want to go to Chicago(probably too cold there, and too far from Japan) truly shocked he chose Houston. Actually devastated, but definitely happy for they’re knowledgeable fans. I wish Imai, my absolute best! My 2nd favorite team never wants to anti up the $ either. Let’s face it they are cheap. Why wasn’t Kyle Tucker resigned? That’s my point, my friend. Cursed liking Cubies! Lol
Cubs fans don’t want to admit they’re more concerned with the upcoming lockout.
How do you know that
Wasn’t too cold for Suzuki, Imanaga or Fukudome before them. You’re just spitting out your own thoughts.
You act like Japan is a tropical paradise haha
boots – What did Dome do that got you so mad at him?
FWIW (not much), Imai is from Kanuma, Tochigi Prefecture of northern Japan where winters are cold and they get snow.
Chicago was too far from Japan, but Houston wasn’t? Have you seen a map or a globe? Not much difference.
he truly didn’t want to go to Chicago(probably too cold there, and too far from Japan)
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Is that ‘truly’? Or just something you felt like saying? Or was just a gut feeling?
Don’t take this personally, because a lot of people have no idea where Houston is. But Chicago is closer to Tokyo than Houston is.
It really doesn’t matter. Imai was never signing with the Cubs or White Sox regardless. Imai wanted to be a Yankee. Unfortunately Yanks had no interest in him.
Houston to Chicago adds about 4 hours of flight time.
kroeg49: False. I just looked it up. They are both about 12 hour flights from Tokyo.
Avg. flight distance from Houston to Tokyo is 512 miles shorter than flight from Chicago, so yeah, much closer 🙂
I agree, Aaron, Imai is a better pitcher than Imanaga and Senga and younger, too.
Bucket Number Six:
I don’t mean this in a rude or confrontational way, but how would you know?
He performed better in NPB than Senga and Imanaga when they were 26/27. Seems to have good stuff. Size may be a factor, but it hasn’t hurt Yamamoto.
@Bucket- Yeah we don’t really know that yet. Time will definitely tell.
People speculate but say it as if they know something. Thats what gets me – if these things were true, Passan would be writing about it for sure. I did n hear he didnt like New York.
coop- nothing could be so far from the truth though. It crushes me. Imai’s lst preference was to pitch in NY for the Yankees. One reason is the Yankees didn’t want to pay him, or they just don’t think he’s good enough. Probably both. We’ll see.
This is another failure on the Cashman regime and further reinforces the fact that Haldoesnt want to spend. This deal totals what they gave to a washed-up, useless Donaldson, whom they ended up cutting from the team anyway.
Another example of how terrible Cashman spends (or doesn’t spend) money.
Bucket Number Six:
The size is definitely a big issue. How many guys 154 pounds withstand pitching a Major league baseball season? I can’t say I know if you watched him much but I’m going to assume you probably haven’t. If you watched a lot of him, please correct me.I don’t think any of us really know enough about these Japanese players to know if they’re going to be any good or not. Also, from what I understand I thought Yamamoto is about 20 pounds heavier than him.
The 154 pounds may be from a while ago. The NPB website has him at 80kg or 176 lbs.
Bucket Number Six:
The listing of his weight has been inconsistent, but most sources state that he’s in the 150s. I don’t really know what’s true. I haven’t weighed him lol
His pockets will now be heavy
Yankee- I was really surprised neither the Yankees or the Red Sox were in on him. For the cost it seems like they would have taken a shot. I don’t expect him to be an ace in the majors, but he is young and even a decent #3 or 4 pitcher would be well worth what he got. I guess if he is successful he will be back on the market after the season.
I completely agree. Cashman specifically noted that we need pitching this year. I’m not suggesting that Imai is a “can’t miss” guy (like Ohtani or even Yamamoto), but his upside potential is #2 stuff. I mean, at his floor he’s still better than two or three members of the starting rotation anyway, and for this cost….I just don’t get it.
Cashman gave a completely washed Marcus Stroman the same $18MM AAV for two years without any opt-out clauses.
He publicly stated that he wanted to go to a team that had no Japanese players on its roster. The Cubs don’t qualify for that
Just means Jed has to go the way I think he always wanted to go. Make a trade for a starting pitcher. Either that or he really is expecting Steele to come back soon and spot on. That seems risky to me. They certainly have the pieces to get one. I just hope one of them isn’t Wiggins. But Jed does seem to have a habit of pi–ing me off and trading the one guy I wouldn’t trade every year.
I don’t think he said that. I think it was more along the lines of whether or not a team had other Japanese players wasn’t a factor for him.
This just means the waiting game is over..i would expect some sorta signing or trade soon now that he is gone
@Unclemike1526
The Cubs can still salvage their offseason. Their primary goal was to find a top of the rotation pitcher who can miss bats. They unsurprisingly passed on Dylan Cease. Tatsuya Imai is now off the board at a fraction of Cease’s cost.
The trade market will now be Jed Hoyer’s best opportunity to find a power TOR. The top options will cost them a fortune in young MLB talent and/or high rated prospect capital. A play for rental Tarik Skubal would cost both assuming the Tigers are still entertaining the idea. Trading for MacKenzie Gore and his two remaining years of arbitration control would cost almost as much. Both are southpaws who would tilt their rotation even further to the left side.
A RHP would provide better balance but top potential trade options like Edward Cabrera or Joe Ryan would still come at a high cost in talent.
None of this addresses the Cubs next offseason priority of finding an impact bat to replace Kyle Tucker. Trading for a TOR like those mentioned above would likely mean the departure of internal offensive replacement options like Owen Caissie, Moisés Ballesteros or even Matt Shaw to say nothing of losing a young power arm like Jaxon Wiggins.
If the Cubs ultimately trade for a TOR and then actually resign Tucker or sign another impacting FA bat like Alex Bregman, all will be forgiven by most Cubs fans including myself. I’m not holding my breath on this outcome.
I don’t want Tucker or Bregman anywhere near the Cubs. I would rather roll with Ballesteros and Caissie. That’s always been my position. Not changing now.
No reason to trade from the farm. They need Caissie, Ballesteros, Alcantara and Wiggins.
Free agent RHPs include Giolito, Gallen and Martinez.
Free agent LHPs include Ranger, Framber and Quintana.
Support signing a FA pitcher. Much better than signing Bregman or Okomoto. Safe to say Tucker and Belli are not on radar.
Tucker would be great on a one year deal but that is NOT happening. Keep Caissie, Alcantara, Ballesteros and Wiggins. Pay for another free agent starting pitcher even if only a number 4 or 5 starter type.
Cubs haven’t done squat yet, other than rebuilding the BP. Wondering what makes you think they’ll do anything now?
Recent years: Cubs signed Belli to short deal, signed Shota and traded for Tucker. Before that, they signed Swanson. Recent track record is they will get exactly one expensive off-season addition and no more than that.
How about Caissie; Hoerner, Ballesteros, and your best high leverage young reliever for Logan Gilbert.
No on Caissie. Ballesteros, Hoerner and Hodge yeah. The other relievers we have we just signed so signing and trading them would be bad form I think. Can’t move both Ballesteros AND Caissie. Not gonna happen. Then we have to sign a 3B so Shaw can move to 2nd. Nah I don’t see that being feasible.
Cubs say no.
Imai was neither a power arm nor top of rotation arm. So not sure where youre going with your musings on how Imai to the Astros is a Cub miss
And the Astros swoop in!!!
I think many teams thought he was a “questionable” #3,but as gambles go, I think the Astros did okay.
I think the Astros did well, even though better than even Imai opts-out after one year.
The Astros are ruining baseball.
Put a lid on it.
Ha! I see what you did there.
HNY to you too! 😉
In jail!
I’m not afraid to go back to prison!!!
So long as you kept Ztsu Ztsus petals
Steal
3/63
I guess at those terms the Mets were out because he’s not proven? Or they are too far from contention for him to entertain their offers?
Are they further than the Astros? They both seem like wild card teams to me.
Astros def seem closer than Mets especially if Yordan can stay healthy and a bounce back year from Walker.
ReyDay:
Come on that has nothing to do with this. It’s about money. This was obviously the best contract he could get.
And if Correa, McCullers, Javier can stay healthy and if Altuve doesn’t digress further at 36 and, and, and. Not the Astros of a few years ago.
The Astros were in it until the final week with a year that included most of their pitchers on the IL, Altuve and Walker playing like garbage etc. Considering all that there’s reason to believe the Astros are a very good team and will be fighting with the Mariners for the division all year
Not to mention Alvarez, Paredes and half the pitching staff were on the injured list
Go Astros!!!
Probably would have made it in if they didn’t trade Tucker.
McCullers and staying healthy in the same sentence. Isn’t that an oxymoron?
Kinda like how the Cubs went so far with Tucker? Astros got a haul for one year of Tucker.
I think health is the key factor for Houston. They fired their whole training staff because way too many guys were getting injured.
They went further and traded guys they didn’t need.
The Astros top two pitchers were healthy for the entire season. They had a couple of mid-to-back rotation guys who missed most of the season, but that’s pretty typical these days.
Seems like the Astros ‘bad luck’ last season was pretty typical for what every team suffers. Still should be a wild card contender once again.
@WCSoxFan If you do your research, you’ll find out that the Astros had an exceptional amount of key injuries. This website even wrote stories on it if you search for them (which may have contributed to firings on the Astros training staff)
@MuteButton
They had injuries. They weren’t exceptional (especially for the injured players!). If you have a case, then make it, otherwise the statement stands as you have failed to prove your point.
What about Parades injured ? Alvarez missing most of the season Altuve and Walker having horrible years? Take the top 2 hitters from any team and let’s see how far they go.
I know you want an argument, but I don’t. It’s up to you to be wrong
So, are the Astros really going to depend on 35yr old Walker for a second season.at first base, he really fell off last season, are the Astros expecting a return for there over payment in the second year?
@MuteButton
LOL, you’re the one who complained. But clearly you have no argument. Please don’t waste everyone’s time with superfluidity. I’ll take you up on your name’s suggestion now.
I think if they’re going to trade Walker, they’d have to pay at least half his salary.
I don’t see any team giving up too much value in return. However, you could trade a problem contract for another problem contract. There’s knows there’s no shortage of those, but then what have you really gained?
They don’t really have a choice. Sure they could bench him but what else do they do with him? Not quite Jose Abreu part 2, Walker did have a few good moments in 2025. Just have to hope he has a better year, and his defense plays more like when he in Arizona
@Mike
I’m responding to the question of are Mets further away from the Astros, if that wasn’t obvious enough!
@Milken31 I think for most players, it’s mostly about money, but not entirely. If the numbers are close and one team is, let’s say Pittsburgh (sorry Pirate fans, I feel your pain) and the other team is competitive every year (i.e. Houston, Los Angeles, New York, etc.) You’d rather win, right?
@Erebus
I was referring to, and responding specifically to, the injuries of the rotation. Which seem pretty on-par with what teams expect each year these days (unfortunately).
Altuve and Walker weren’t injured, they just suffered expected age related decline for players in their mid-30s. Altuve has zero power now and Walker’s decline doesn’t appear to be luck based. Hard to see a path to significant improvement for these two.
Alvarez missed 2/3 of the season after a relatively rough start. Parades was solid and only missed 1/3 of the year.
I expect you’ll see a bounce back from Alvarez, but otherwise your team’s injuries and luck seem pretty average.
By comparison, here were the Red Sox injuries:
– Opening day cleanup hitter missed last 80% of the season.
– All-Star 3rd baseman missed 30% of the season and wasn’t the same after return
– Best hitter missed final month of season and playoffs
– starting infielder missed final 2.5 months of season and playoffs
– starting DH missed first half of the season due to shoulder surgery
– two mid rotation starters missed entire season
– two successful young starting pitchers missed second half of the year
When you stack up the injuries, I think the Red Sox may have had it worse – still nothing out of the ordinary though.
Big ifs and then there is the what abouts.Same with the Mets.
Walker finished very well in the second half. Hope that continues as he learns to get comfortable at Daiken Park.
I think the Astros had 11 or 12 pitchers on the IL at one point. Were they top rotation guys? No but still a big difference from Spaghetti and JP France and journeymen. It was a rough year for the Astros but in a few months a new season will be upon us. Injuries are part of every sport and usually help determine who’s the eventual champion.
ReyDay:
Yes, and you just provided a few points of speculation. Nothing really to back it up. The teams were few wins apart last season.
MuteButton:
Sure, I can buy that. However, we don’t know that to be the case here.
The Astros fought the good fight. the other ballclub did its best to ensure LOLmets.
@Mike
Isn’t that what you just did with the money being the biggest factor in his decision? Not much to really back it up.
The Mets team from last year and the current is night and day different. Comparing them is pretty useless and they’re a complete wild card. Astros you at least know they will be competing for a division, can we say the same for Mets right now?
ReyDay:
No, because money is almost always the biggest factor in these decisions. That’s common sense. You don’t know that? It would be completely useless to look at these teams now and try to determine what they are for next year when most of the heavy lifting of the off-season hasn’t even happened yet. So I don’t really think that was a factor in this pitchers decision looking at the Astros versus other teams. I mean, either way the Astros are not a world beater. They’re not a terrible team either. He just got the best deal from them. Common sense.
@Mike
How are you gonna say that with nothing backing it up? Follow your own advice at least if you’re gonna use it as a point of
argument. It’s entirely dependent on the individual. Some value money while other value work environment/flexibility.
The Mets are a huge question mark going into next year. The pitcher doesn’t know who will Mets sign/get so rosters now is what he has to go on as do we. So I don’t know why you got mad when the truth is right now Astros are closer to competing next year than the Mets.
No team is the same as it was a few years ago.
Another ignorant statement. At one point the Astros had 17 players on the IL, and 6 of them were pitchers.
You’re mad but you’re spot on….
ReyDay:
So you don’t think he went to the Astros because it was the best contract? How naïve. What else would be the reason he went there? There’s nothing wrong with the Astros, but what in particular would make him pick that organization unless it was for the money/contract terms? I seriously doubt he looked at the Mets and said oh boy they are a question mark next season. I’m not going to go there. Come on. You think he looked at the Astros roster and said oh yeah this team is going to win the World Series next year? He took the contract terms he liked best. Nothing wrong with admitting that. That’s usually the case.
Pena.
I think when healthy, it’s a dogfight with Seattle.
Correa and Javier healthy sounds like no problem. McCullers is broken either way.
Correa’s leadership was needed. trading for Urias was just.. bad. And Sanchez didn’t seem so bad.. at first.
Pretty typical?
The 2025 Astros suffered the most win losses in the MLB season due to injury. This was one of the most injured franchises in a while. They are fighting for the division and a bye spot thank you very much.
Our 3 best were injured. Pena, Paredes, and Alvarez.
Blanco, Wesneski, and more are also injured.
They gave up nothing for Urias though, that was just a fallback move.
I think 90% of it was the best contract.
10% could have been because he was not getting an acceptable offer and Scott Boras told him about how the Astros added millions of $$$ value to Kikuchi’s free agency.
He is betting the Astros help him get the money next offseason that Boras told him was coming this year.
No. Our top of rotation guys stayed healthy. Thankfully!!!
But, Arrighetti had potential to develop into a No. 2 starter.
Rangers don’t suck. But I don’t think they are matching us as of now. They need to improve. Last I checked their bullpen stunk.
@Mike
Why he went to the Astros was never the point of my comment you turned it into that. I don’t really care why, the point I was making are Astros are in a better position to compete next year vs Mets. Mets locker room was a mess last year, they fired their pitching coach, lost a ton of their core. Why would you chose them right now if money is similar ?
In their final week, Walker was their best player.
ReyDay:
But him going to the Astros is the point of this thread. So what was the point of your comment then? We really don’t know who’s going to be better and contend next year as the off-season has really just started. There’s so many moves to be made. Astros won four more games in the mets last year. They’re not really in any more significant position to contend than the Mets. And again, you are naïve to think that he’s looking at the Astros winning 87 games and the Mets winning 83 games and having a clubhouse issue last year and that’s the reason why he’s picking his team. Contract contract contract. It’s what it almost always comes down to.
I’m guessing you’re a Mets fan cause anyone can see the Mets haven’t added nearly close to what they lost. The contract isn’t even that strong to think his sole reason for choosing Astros was money since it seems like all other interested parties could have matched this quite easily. Mets have been to the playoffs 2x in the last 9 years and have a complete unknown identity going into the year. It’s just nonsense to hide behind offseason not being over, base it on current roster and adjust when signings or moves are made like all other normal people.
Y’all acting like the Astros were more affected by injuries than other teams. I think Atlanta and Baltimore both had epic levels of injuries too causing their seasons to collapse.
The “most injuries” card is a hard sell since all teams have them. How can multiple claims of “most affected by injuries” be fairly judged? Totally AAV lost? Calculated b/fWAR for missing days? Total players used at a position in a year?
Just saying. And next year, yeap, valuable players are going to the DL, too. Will Yordan ever play a full 162 games…please?!
@Mike
I’m done going back and forth over the money aspect. That was never the intention of my comment, it was purely related to Astros being a finer tuned machine than the Mets so if you want to continue that discussion awesome. Otherwise this has reached its conclusion.
@Alfred – nobody is talking to you how many comments do you have to send to try and be included ? And the “Rey” in my name is for Jose Reyes, I’m a long time Mets fan so you’re just as clueless as I thought.
ReyDay:
I am a Mets fan and I’m not in love with their off-season so far but you seem like a lot of fans who want to grade what a team is when the bulk of the off-season hasn’t even happened yet. Yeah I’m sure this Japanese pitcher was scanning the Mets and Astros rosters and farm system in making his decision. Again, you think like a fan and not the way players and agents do in the real world. You say the contract isn’t that strong but that’s probably the strongest contract he got. Teams were obviously not falling over themselves to try and sign this guy. He got three guaranteed years and he can opt out after each year. That’s probably the best contract offer he was given. Fans look at things the way you do, not players and agents. By the way, this is not even really a Mets thing. I don’t believe they made any offer for the guy or had any strong interest in him.
ReyDay:
But in the context of the thread of course people are going to respond in relation to the pitcher. That was the cause of this thread. I don’t get why you don’t get that. And also, I don’t know why you treat this part of the off-season like these are teams are ready going to go into the season. There’s so many massive moves to be made and these rosters are nowhere near completed. So it really doesn’t matter what you think of the Astros or any other team right now, because there’s massive changes to come in the next month or so. That’s fine. The conversation can reach his conclusion. If you’re done responding, so am I but if you’re going to respond, I have every right to respond back. You don’t control this thread or this discussion.
Alfred E Neuman:
Thank you. He doesn’t seem to get it when I try to explain it to him.
@Mike – You’re thinking like a Mets fan to shield you from believing players would actually pick another team over this chaos organization, cause a year ago that was unthinkable. You keep trying to put words in my mouth that nobody said or implied. NY is a big town with lot of scrutiny and this team has a huge bulls eye on its back from media and fans after an epic fail last year. He’s obviously betting on himself, pitching coaches/analytics department and chance to compete are all a big priority in choosing destination. Not to mention how teams treat their players and we’ve seen Mets show that this offseason. To a foreign born player who is trying to gain a foothold in the MLB I’d imagine would all be big factors in why someone would chose a team like the Astros over Mets at this moment. Money is important but like Roki last year these Japanese players aren’t always about going to the biggest guaranteed payday, it’s about setting them up in the best possible environment to succeed.
@Mike – “There are so many massive moves to make” what about this offseason makes you think Mets are destined for a big move? They are hesitant to hand out anything over a few years (which I agree with) but it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see they are retooling/rebuilding this offseason and not pushing the chips all in like some team on the brink of chip. They are focusing on nurturing the young farm and adding veteran pieces on short term deals. Bichette/Tucker/Framber/Suarez/Bellinger/
Bregman are all looking for big contracts nothing else is pushing the needle for Mets in any meaningful way.
ReyDay:
No, I’m thinking like people think in the real world. You’re thinking naïvely like a fan. Yes I’m sure a Japanese player was just so geared up to go play for the Astros. Again nothing wrong with the Astros, but what would make them some amazing free agent destination right now? He got a contract for three guaranteed years that he can opt out after each year. Probably no one else is willing to give that. And again this is not really about Astros versus Mets. I don’t even think the Mets made a competitive offer to him, if they made an offer at all. So this really didn’t come down him choosing the Astros over the Mets. And since you brought up Roki, yes if Imai went to the Dodgers, we could say he’s picking a specific destination. Or even the Mariners because it’s closer to Japan. But the Astros? How silly.
ReyDay:
When I was talking about massive moves to be made, I was talking about in general. You’re acting like it’s the end of the off-season when we’re in the midst of it. If you don’t think the Mets are going make several important moves here though, then you’re just the frustrated Met fan who likes to complain about everything. Again, I haven’t loved everything they’ve done this offseason but I’m very confident they have several moves they are going to be making. I don’t know if I will like them or not, but I believe they absolutely are going to do that. And you’re talking about being hesitant in terms of contracts. This is the team that signed Juan Soto last off-season so we can’t say we know what they’re going to do. They have the capability of making any contract at any moment. I can’t say I know they’ll do that but they have the ability to do that more than any other team. That’s just a fact. You can rebuild your team and still make win now moves. It doesn’t have to be either/or a situation. I mean guys like Passan and Morosi keep saying the Mets are planning to make several more moves. So we’re just going to ignore people who are in the the know
@Mike – Saying “Naive” over and over again doesn’t improve your stance. It’s like the equivalent of talking louder and louder thinking that makes you right. Astros have one of the best analytics department and were one of if not the first to implement it and their pitching has been a very consistent strength for them for better part of a decade.
“So geared up to play there” here you go again putting your own words and spin on. It was reported he got more guaranteed $ from others just less AAV. So please just save this narrative it’s all about the money, two things can be true at the same time. You act like Houston is some kind of AAA team compared to the almighty Mets. It should be the other way around why would he choose choking Mets over an established playoff contender that’s been one of the most consistent teams in baseball aside from the Dodgers.
@Mike – I’m actually not I love the direction the Mets have headed in. But I’m also not a blind fan either. The Soto deal was purely Cohen not Stearns if it were up to him Soto wouldn’t be getting that deal. It’s obvious to see what they are doing if you can’t see that then I don’t know what to tell you. They are trying to get younger and cheaper none of the big time FA that moves the needle align with that. Hiding behind the offseason isn’t over yet is purely fantasy. This team isn’t going after the cream of the crop like you’re used to. Maybe next offseason if Mets prove they can show some heart. Cohen said he’s willing to spend if he sees results and 2 playoff appearances in 5 years doesn’t cut it.
ReyDay:
Saying some of the things you were saying, I felt the need to reiterate that naivety. Plus, didn’t you say you were done with this debate? I guess not. First, we have no idea about if those reports are right in terms of what he got from other teams. Depends on the sources. Next, if they were less AAV obviously he felt this was the better contract for him. There’s nothing about the Astros that would be overwhelmingly appealing at this point. It’s a contract situation. Who’s putting words in who’s mouth now? I said this is not an Astros/Mets thing as I don’t even believe the Mets made any competitive offer to this guy. You are salty about their collapse and you are over compensating by acting like they are a destination like the Colorado Rockies or the Chicago White Sox. Give me a break.
ReyDay:
Nothing I said is out of blindness. I’m a very fair and even minded fan. I’ve already told you there’s things that I don’t like. I’m obviously not waving pom-poms. But I’m not gonna go overboard because of the collapse and act like they are a wasteland destination or that they’re unwilling to spend any money. And you say the Soto deal was purely Cohen, well then Cohen could take it upon himself to insist upon other deals as well. We can’t predict that. Everyone wants to get younger, but to act like money isn’t going to be a major part of what they’re doing going forward is gullible. You don’t have the richest owner in sports and not run one of the highest payrolls, which they will consistently do. I agree if they don’t think a player is a needle mover, they’re not going to go after him. As they shouldn’t. But the Mets are always going to be in on top free agents. Doesn’t mean they will sign them, but there’s a lot going behind the scenes that you’re making assumptions about that I think are simply incorrect.
horaceallen:
I’m getting the impression that most teams in Major League Baseball do not necessarily see him as a high-end starting pitcher. I don’t think it’s anything to do with being far from contention. Besides, a few moves and they’re clearly a team in contention for a playoff spot.
Agree. The body size is an issue being only 154 lbs does not bode well for a full grind of a mlb season.
That seems obvious yes. There just aren’t that many guys at his size that have held up as a MLB starter. There are a few, but they’re freaks and Hall of Fame types. And his fastball is straight as a frozen rope.
Pedro Martinez listed at 170 in his heyday
Earlier this week, MLB Sirius/XM radio guys said they heard teams were worried because he has only one MLB-elite pitch (breaking ball), and that his fastball command (within the zone, not ball/strike control) was not that great. He profiles more as a reliever, a good one but without enough of a repertoire to be a top of rotation MLB starter.
@highfly. Were you listening to barstool sports. His fastball is one of the best, and his slider is a plus pitch. Never heard the reliever part, but people were saying Yamamoto was overrated and belongs in Mexico. people have posted multiple links. I heard from the rockies homer saying he 3’7 missing a leg now,because he got gang green on his flight to LA.
Horaceallen, how about it’s because Stearns is a #%^*+…?
You’ve never seen the guy pitch but you’re whining the Mets didn’t sign him 🤡🤡
There’s these things called scouting reports, statistics and the like
Imai did say early on he wanted to go to a team with no other Japanese players. With Senga still a Met, that might have come into play. Don’t see any Japanese players listed on the Astros 2025 roster. Still had hopes for the Mets until now, but obviously not. Only one team can win him this year, and it’s the Astros.
Imai wasn’t going to sign with the Mets after the way they buried Senga last September.
ChuckyNJ:
Thanks for contributing with your usual stupid remark.
If he signed for 3/54 Stearns was interested at 1/12. He lives in a fantasy land where players don’t want years or money.
Tell that to Soto.
And part of the real answer might be that he is being more cautious this year after getting burned last year.
@horace
Too far removed from reality
To make any sensible logical move
@horaceallen That’s my assumption. It’s why I think they weren’t big players for Murakami or Okamoto either. After the collapse last yr, and their intention to return to contention in 26; they probably felt that they could ill-afford to take a chance on players who will likely require a season or 2 to adjust to MLB play.
That and it’s been mentioned that they don’t want to clog up the roster with fliers and block their young pitching from competing for roster spots.
@horaceallen: I think you’re right. Mets have way too many starters as it is with only McLean really as a potential ace in 2026. McLean, Senga, Manaea, Peterson, Holmes, Sproat, Tong, Christian Scott, Cooper Criswell. That’s 9 already who might make up the rotation. imo, the only SP they should be thinking about is a proven, TOR arm. If Imai turns out to be a mid- or back-of-the-rotation guy, well, they’ve got enough of those already.
Whoa
Two days ago Imai had no offers on the table. Crane is a funny dude. I thought he said there would be no money for anybody, but then he changed his mind again. I guess that’s what’s nice about having a single owner as a decision maker. But that also has its downsides.
He had offers. No unexpected or new offers. He was surprised that after 16 teams met with him expressing interest, only a few had made formal offers. Translation to English is not something you can leave to amateurs. Too much context they miss.
He is currently listed at 5’11” and 175 lbs.
Didn’t see that one coming.
Same I had him going to the tigers..
I doubt many picked the Stros!
Nope, pretty much nobody
Better than signing with the dodgers ..
They’ll wait until he proves himself. Then it’s off to the west coast where he is closer to home and dodgers it will be.
Davey J. 2.0 – the next generation, I mean Yamamoto is the same height, although he weights 20-25 pounds more
Lol, “closer to home.” I’m sure he’ll tolerate an extra 90 min on a private jet if he needs to
Tell me about it. These guys don’t care how close to home they are. They care about the money.
Spot on. You’re living in a hotel the entire time you’re playing then going back to Japan after the season. Why not play in the A/C in Texas and skip the taxes in NY or CA?
Because there’s a lot of Japanese and Japanese culture in California and you don’t need A/C there either. Imai is not in California or New York presumably because the teams there didn’t want or need him enough to top other offers.
Pay attention. He stated at the outset he did not want to play for the Dodgers, or any team that already had a Japanese player. He wants to make his own way in the USA, and he also stated his ambition was to beat the Dodgers.
If French, German, Italian, Cuban, Venezuelan and Canadian players and other nationalities don’t worry about who else is on the team, or the local culture, why does everyone on this site think Japanese players do?
LOL you don’t need AC in California? Have you ever been out this way?
I’ve lived in California most of my life. Why are there no indoor stadium with A/C? If you live out in the desert you need AC, but we’re not talking about the desert (or the San Fernando Valley either). Last time I was at Dodgers stadium — last April — I was wearing a coat and I was still cold.
I’m sorry, but I can’t name a French or Italian baseball player. The only German one I can name is Max Kepler. For Latino players, the league is so Latino now anywhere you play you’re going to be around many other Spanish-speaking players. That’s not true for players from the Asian countries. You may have a point though that things could be changing with a greater influx of Asian players throughout the league. Geography may not be as important as it used to be. Still, there are many reasons the elite players from Asia — even more than other American or Latino players — tend to choose teams like the Dodgers or Yankees. Both areas have large Asian communities, which not only give them a comfort level, but also provide them with unique business and marketing connections back to Asia. Of course this won’t apply to every player coming over from Asia, but the big teams in the big cities, especially out West, have strong and unique advantages. I’m trying to think of a single “great” Asian player that has not played primarily on the West Coast or the Northeast. That may be changing, but I still have not thought of one. Also, California is close to Hawaii, where there is a large Asian presence (especially Japanese). Ohtani has at least one major business investment in Hawaii, and I wouldn’t be surprised if several other MLB players from Japan do too.
With the whole closer to home argument, I’m not sure that holds much water. Los Angeles/Cali is approx a 10-hour flight from Japan while Houston is 12. There’s more to it than an extra 20% flight time.
He is listed at 154lbs actually.
He can learn to cheat with the best of them now!
Wouldn’t the best at cheating be the teams that didn’t get caught?
Very good point.
9 years still living rent free in Wades tiny head
Yeah, was waiting for the first moronic cheating comment. They never disappoint here at MLBTR.
I don’t actually care I just think it is funny at this point. Cheating is kind of a part of the game since the old days. Tommy Lasorda was pretty funny about it in his autobiography.
“Rent free” only applies to off-topic comments. This is literally an Astros post. 9 years and the cheating comments still trigger you guys lol
I don’t necessarily care that they cheated but I’ll be darned if I can’t tease them for getting caught from now until I die!
The Dodgers are so rent free in some of your heads. Not once was it rumored that they were in on him.
There is nothing “free” about the Dodgers.
I’m glad he doesn’t want to be a ring chaser. Good for him for not wanting to sign with them.
“ring chaser”
yeah why bother to win?
Anyone who signs with the Dodgers from now til the end of Ohtani’s contract will be ring chasers. I’d rather be on the team that takes the Dodgers. So yes Imai would’ve been no different than his fellow countrymen or anyone else a ring chaser
lol.
They’re all money chasers. Just like we would be if we were playing major league baseball. If the Dodgers had offered more he’d be there.
Imai early on said he wanted to beat the Dodgers they were never invvoled.
Dodgers didn’t want or need him. that’s why he stated from the start he wasn’t interested in being a Dodger but wanted to beat them. sure thing let’s see how that plays out.
in a year from now. if shows well ….you think that will hold water about dodgers?
Not expensive enough.
dont worry Houston will showcase him and if any good he will be in a dodger uniform right after he opts out.
He was never connected to the Dodgers and they have no place for him in the rotation anyway.
if Imai shows up as a solid pitcher with durability, LAD would move Glasnow or Sheehan and slot him in.
I don’t see the point in this kind of speculation. For one, it assumes the Dodgers are automatically after every pitcher from Japan, and for another, we have no reason to expect Imai to be better than either Glasnow or Sheehan.
Wow, i’m surprised! Didn’t feel like their name was at the top of any lists to get him
Not sure why I still held out some hope as a Mets fan. That was dumb of me.
horaceallen:
We don’t even know if Imai is any good
That can be said about every single Intl free agent and draftee. So no point in signing anyone I guess
Phillies come up short again in the Asian market again. Not surprised
He doesn’t have to run up the middle, homie. He just has to throw a ball. He’ll be fine. I mean, he might not pitch well but his weight won’t be the reason.
Let’s just stop pretending Imai was ever going to the Windy City. That being said. I’m extremely disappointed.
Dumpster Dave thinks Nola and Walker are solid and painter is healthy enough to handle Rangers load. His wasteful spending and wishful thinking is about to blow up in his face.
Nola is solid and Painter will be fine. Walker was obviously a big mistake.
Ah ok
Nola is pretty mid.
Walker is going to be fine. Geez a weez. The only reason I’m okay with trading Walker is because otherwise, we trade Paredes.
Pedro Martinez and Sandy Koufax weren’t huge guys either.
Koufax was 6’2″, 210 lbs
Koufax was out of baseball at age 30. Guess those 210 pounds didn’t really help his longevity.
Are you really as stupid as you appear to be?
sandy was 6’2” and 210 lbs.
There’s a joke somewhere in there
The joke is the Phillies could not afford this guy
I meant the OP but I feel your pain
Ty my friend
He is listed at 5’11” and 175. Same as the GOAT.
In case you are wondering, they GOAT is Pedro.
I think you misspelled Walter Johnson. Not enough IP for Pedro.
Not enough IP? What’s your standard, Cy Young?
Walter Johnson
Inning for inning, the goat is most def Pedro, especially considering the juiced era and division he was pitching in.
Longevity is another argument but as far as dominant peak goes, nobody comes close to Pedro and the Big Unit considering the era they pitched their best seasons in.
Clayton Kershaw.
He missed the steroid era though.
Nolan Ryan
Offense was way down for most of Nolan’s career. On a relativity rate basis he doesn’t stack up very well at all.
Please check your facts and stop repeating that nonsense. He weighs 154lbs.
If the Phil’s had the money to spend, I would rather they resign Ranger Suarez.
The contract was really 3/64 or about $21m a year when considering the money owed to the original team with about $28m next year. $28m is more than Ranger is projected to make on an AAV. If Imai pitches really well, he will just go FA again….so the Phil’s so years 2 and 3 when he costs $18m, the Phils would only owe that is he was not living up to his contract and chose to not seek more.
Unfortunately, I doubt the Phils have the money either way….Due to Cast and Walker making loads of money and being borderline MLB players.
About time. Very quiet off-season for the Astros. This is probably the best move they could’ve made. And it should be considered official, Framber Valdez is gone.
He was gone the minute he threw at his catcher because he was mad.
yuck D:
Yay
Boring. Good luck.
wow, cheap cheap cheap,
Really hard to understand why as ton of other teams didn’t offer him at least this much
Maybe he’s just not as good as we keep
Being told, and scouts and FO folks see it.
Small doesn’t matter
That’s what she didn’t say.
aduncaroo44:
Isn’t it possible many of those other don’t think he’s anything special?
Google had the following:
Imai listed at 5’11” 176lbs.
Yamamoto listed ag 5’10” 176lbs.
Yamamoto has had quite the career so far. So not sure this “too small” argument carries any water.
You seem to be obsessed with things being “too small”. Do you have an issue you would like to discuss ?
this is a great move by the Astros. not a fan of them but this makes a lot of sense for them.
Astros are known for being at the cutting edge of pitching development. I wonder how much of a role that played in this
what played the largest role was likely the opt outs after each year.
I’m sure. Just wondering if the pitching development played a factor as well
It had to have played a role. The Astros absorb all the risk here. He could pitch 100 innings, make 21M and go to the Dodgers or something next year. I’m sure they have an agreed upon plan to prioritize his arm health through the adjustment to MLB pace and pitching every 5 games…the Astros have to stick to it or they lose him quick. If you look at Ohtani, Sasaki, Kikuchi, Yamamoto… they all saw drop offs in innings their first year. Senga was an exception to that rule then missed basically his entire second season.
some
His market collapsed as well. I don’t know if there’s less money available than people thought this off-season, or this class of Japanese imports is just seen as deeply flawed, but it’s pretty obvious the big spenders didn’t see him as a top shelf starter. Likely due to his size.
Also, how much are the Blue Jays ticked at having misread the market and overpaying Cease so early.
Probably not mad unless he sucks next year
Probably the looming lockout
They didn’t overpay Cease. He got what he deserved, but some people can’t see much beyond ERAs.
It’s the 5 inning starts that people have a hard time looking past. Cease is basically Quintana with more strike outs. I’d rather Quintana and use the extra cash to sign an additional someone.
There was talks of contract changes based around a potential lockout in 2027. Both Murakami and Imai now seem to have built those protections in.
Imai got an opt out after every season
Yeah. Both him and Murakami could go back to NPB next year if MLB locks out. Other MLB players wouldn’t be able to due to limits on foreign born players there.
Interesting point!
Not surprised only three years, saw that coming.
Astros a bit of a surprise.
It’s actually 3 one year deals. He can leave after every season.
Surprise surprise surprise. Opt our opt put opt out. Actually the opt outs aren’t too surprising after his comments on the lack of big offers. But the team is a major surprise. I thought the Astros were pinching the pennies.
Er, I meant opt out opt out opt out. Bad typing.
The Astros came out of left field in this one. Nice fumble Jed.
Man, these clubs were really leery about him for Imai to have opt outs after every season.
I mean Yamamoto is about that size
Imai is 5’11” 154 lbs
Yamamoto is 5’10” 176 lbs
But they didn’t buy by the pound.
Imai is 175.
Nah. Those extra 2-3 inches and 30 lb make a big difference. Imai is down in Lincecum territory, and Timmy was 5’ 11” and weighed more.
@seamaholic. Lincecum delivery was always a problem it was deemed violent on the arm, before he got drafted. Imai is more of a side slot angle, and shouldn’t be a risk. Either way three years isn’t bad especially if he opts out the Astros got someone to replace valdez.
Yeah, those big dudes last SO much longer. After two or three surgeries. Yeesh.
I pitched as lean as 165 entering college, and got up to 195. The biggest differences I can remember is that my legs/core felt much more stable at 195, with less stress on my leg upon landing. Also, recovery wise post start, my arm felt much better the next day and two days after, allowing me to begin preparing for my next start much more smoothly, and less sore.
I’m 6’2″, 195 pounds, 34 inch waist for the past 50 years. Pitched into my forties. Never had to weigh any more than that. Could still run a sub 6:00 miles at age 50. When you work at it, you can be fine. Lifting weights for anything beyond injury prevention is a waste of time. Run and do calisthenics, use bands, have a strong core. Get outside on New Years Day and run 5 miles. It’s not that hard if you work at it every single day.
Hear, hear! It’s leg day today for me…as you said, working at it every day so I can continue to be fine! All the best, and happy new year!
Lincecum used his entire frame, almost like a catapult, to generate velo. And it worked fantastically while it lasted. It wasn’t as much his arm that gave out, as his hips did.
That should loosen up the starting pitching market at least.
I ate a lot of fried food last night and it seems to have loosened some things up. Is Imai kind of like that?
Hey I’m trying to eat breakfast here
Nothing fried I hope…
Ok that’s a left field team for sure, but congratulations to the Astros!
@Sal- just a great move for these Stro’s. I doubt Imai disappoints them..
You seem pretty confident Cap’n
@Ignorant- Yeah I really wanted Imai pitching on the Yankees. To say I’m disappointed is an understatement.
@ Ignorant
Do you think Houston is an easy task?
@Astros71– Easy task as in…?? No when it comes to building their pitching staff back up, it’s not going to be easy. Also don’t think it’s going to be easy keeping their starting lineup healthy and all playing together at the same time. [Altuve, Correa, Paredes, Alvarez are vulnerable & brittle]
I meant as is it going to be easy for Seattle to defeat Houston.
Scale of 0-5, with 0 being like AAA team easy, and 5 being like dogfight, final season moments.
Best just to say ask me again on Opening Day, we gotta wait for the rosters to get settled.
Yup and you called it on the Yanks.
@Sal- yeah but truly never wanted to be more wrong. Imai is probably a #3 in a good rotation right now. No reason why he can’t become a #2 though. I feel the Yankees will regret this for sure. Smh.
私たちが知っている宇宙は、全体像のごく一部、ほんの一つのピクセルに過ぎない。今井氏が星々を征服するにあたり、彼に平安あれ。
もちろん! I wish Imai-san the best too! 明けましておめでとう, Happy New Year, Mahalo!
Im still always amazed that anyone can read or write that every single time i see a string of text like this!!
I think people say they same about English
Americans struggle with English so Japanese must seem impossible.
Domo. Domo
Well, pretty much a full cya Framber signing. Shocked the Orioles have not gone after Framber.
Players like Framber saw what Cease got and want so much more. Teams saw what Cease got, and are refusing to use his overpay as a comp.
Framber’s market is going to collapse
Framber? More like Frambrulee, amirite?
Giants fans swinging at the air right now. Literally one of the richest teams in baseball, amd will soon have the whole northern California market, yet acting like they’re the Marlins.
The Giants must not have seen him as an upgrade over internal options and what’s available on the FA market.
Not me. Pretty sure Posey knows a little about evaluating a pitching prospect.
You thought he was going to the Seibu Lions this whole time lol
Yup.
Definitely not worth the 6/150 projected, but not quite a throw back.
He still might return if locked out.
Overhyped.
Plus a 20M+ posting fee – no team was going to pay that
Giant fans indeed Swinging at the air like they just dont care. Da roof. Da roof. Da roof is on fire
Imai opinion he should have gone elsewhere
Imai house, in the middle of the street, I thought he was a cub.
👻 🌹
Who ya gonna call flower?
Ghost Rose = Go Stro’s
Seattle hitters are gonna tee off on this dude can’t wait!!!
Kinda like you’re waiting for that first World Series appearance? Keep hoping champ maybe one day
Non-trash can led world series.
2022
Blue Jays are non-trash. They can lead the World Series.
Not if Houston can help it. They will turn him into an ace and have Seattle hitters swing like they are playing a non-competitive game in the Offseason of jokes and laughs and no umpires.
Surprise Surprise
One more surprise and youre Gomer Pyle
Didn’t expect Houston. Be interesting to see how this plays out.
LOL I wasn’t expecting him either. Only as a hopeless wish.
Imai was desperate. His posting expires tomorrow. He could do worse.
Well I was hoping it was going to be the Yanks. Good luck.
@Knicks- told you he was never coming to the Yankees all along. Sorry.
Hmmm, didn’t see this coming. At this price point, I am quite surprised the Padres weren’t the choice with his comments about “beating the Dodgers”. The pipeline of Japanese talent from the NPB to San Diego that Darvish was to be the face of, sure hasn’t worked out as well as planned.
The beating the Dodgers comment was apparently said jokingly.
some people can only grasp at straws Eli.
@El Kabong
Or maybe as instructed by his agent…
He knew the Dodgers don’t need him,
And a nice ploy in trying to target SFG who needed SPs. Oh look it’s Timmy 2 !
Nice try Scotty.
@oldgfan
It’ll be interesting to see how many years Okamoto gets.
Yes. At these prices, I sure hope the Red Sox sign Okamoto.
Current trend says 3-4.
Don’t know much about him. Just positionaly (new word) not a target for SFG. Really amazed me how so much of their fan base bought into Imai as the next phenomenon.
Per Grammarly, it’s spelled positionally. It should be used often in baseball. Let’s see if we can get it to catch on.
Positionally challenged does sound a little nicer than skillet gloved..
Nothing has shown he won’t be a phenom.
His wallet just did.
Nobody was complaining about his size as you were egging your team on to sign him. Go ahead and make ip a narrative to justify your team getting him.
As for astros, sneaky good pickup. Doesnt need to be an ace, just need to take the ball every 5th day. Now we have some depth and dont have to overrely on mccullers.
Agree
Tim Lincecum was not that big.had a great career
Only really dominant for about 5 years tho.
The vast majority of MLB players aren’t dominant for 5 days, let alone five years.
well he’s only signed for 3 years soooooo…..
Which is fine. My point (not made well) is 5 years for these body type pitchers is a gamble. For the record Timmy was my favorite player his entire career with SFG. His size and delivery style affected his hips, and shortened his performance long term.
Bobby Shantz (local to me) was excellent at 5’7″ 145. Of course, that was a long time ago. Mr. Shantz is now 100 years old.
Does he still have the cheesesteak joint? I used to go there with my dad when I was a kid.
No. He used to attend the beginning of the high school and Little League seasons at Bobby Shantz Field, but didn’t make it the last two years. What a career he had. The only living player to have played for Connie Mack.
Lincecum has a cheesesteak joint, crazy
No. He already smoked that one.
Ron Guidry, 5-11, 161 lb. 47.8 WAR
So it’s official. Yankees are waving the White Flag and are now in rebuilding mode. Had been holding out hope that NYY would pull the trigger. Not feeling good about getting Belligner or Tucker either. Even sadder, I’d be elated if they made some middling signings of players like Hays and Bassitt at this point. Somebody, anybody to keep them away from the fourth place finish they seem resigned to.
Come down from the edge of the building it’s okay. It’s just sports nothing to be so emotional amount. Here’s a cookie feel better now ?
Wow, really clever. Are you playing all week? Where do I get tickets?
Not on the edge of the building that’s for sure. Hey don’t blame me for poking at the crybaby learn to not be so attached. When the Yankees win what do you win? NOTHING
Happy New Year to you too, keyboard bully.
Who’s a bully? You were crying about the Yankees so I made a joke about it. It’s still early in the day you can still be happy today. Happy new year to you, learn to not let sports dictate so much of your life and you’ll be much happier
Rudy don’t lose faith yet…if Spring Training gets here and you don’t see Cody or a Cody replacement and you don’t see a new starting pitcher, then feel free to lament at that time. Yanks will be fine.
Try the veal
What if hes really 8 tho. Calling an 8 yr old a crybaby? Not cool
Dumpster you make the most asinine takes and reply’s on this site. Easily one of the biggest trolls on here, and now you want to call something “not cool”. Talk about the kettle calling the pot black
Just sayin’. Maybe he really is 8
Theo’s posts are not troll posts. They are more like 4D-Chess moves played on a Risk board in the middle of a 12-person Twister match. Maybe one day their profundity will finally dawn on you.
How did you give him a cookie over the internet?
(;) or something similar
You are absolutely insane to think that a team that tied for the most wins in the AL last year and made the playoffs are going into “rebuild” mode
I hope that was sarcasm and not serious. I wanted Imai but keep in mind They have Freid, Gil, Warren and Schlittler to start the season with Rondon and Cole joining at some point. I was hoping for another FOR and push Warren or Schlittler to the pen but I guess not. But Valdez and Suarez are still on the table as well as some cheaper mid- back end guys. Beli, Tucker and some 3b/SS options are still in play.
It was semi-sarcasm that went way over some folks head, apparently, and really triggered them, LOL. Still, and seriously, is there any indication that the Yanks are going to sign any of the FA that are still on the Board – while Toronto, Boston, and even the Orioles are bulking up? Is they lose Belligner and Cole/Rodon are ineffective after their returns, you’re looking at an 85 win team, Dude.
85 wins likely makes the playoffs.
The only NYC ballclub that specializes in buying the most expensive ballplayers is the ballclub with LOLmets.
Lions and tigers and bears, Imai! I didn’t see this coming.
The cubs are an organization that doesn’t care about fans or winning it’s all about deception with fans .The bottom line is the most important thing is bottom until Hoyer is gone and the sell in done with this crappy organization !!!
So the Cubs don’t care but to the risk of trading top prospects to bring in Tucker knowing he might walk? Fans like you irk me.
But they misjudged Tucker. He wasn’t really that good. Their biggest problem is poor talent evaluation.
Tucker: wRC+ 136 war 4.5
I’m not sure why you hate Tucker so much you just keep spewing out wrong information about him
Teams coming out of left field are 2-0 in the Japanese market so far
Let’s see the A’s sign Okamoto
The shock of the year!!!
Smallish…Lincecum body. Even has the hair.
2 yr for murakami
3 for imai
The reality did not meet the incredible expectations
Tms aint so hi on these japanese stars anymore
Thanks to senga & yoshida, etc
What an idiotic comment. That’s like saying teams in the 50s shouldn’t go after black players because John Kennedy of the Phillies was a bust.
Remember Kei Igawa?
Nope but I remember Kaz Matsui. I remember rumors of him being a chain smoker. Why choose the cancer sticks over the amazing sticky green??
Not surprised that he signed with a dark horse candidate, or that the contract was my h less than some expected. The opt outs are understandable as he is betting on himself, but there was no way Anthopoulos would sign a contract with opt outs, especially not three consecutive ones.
Good luck to him and the Astros
Absolutely moronic to include the opt outs. You’re basically showing him off for the rest of the league, lose-lose scenario. If he sucks, he stays there. If he’s good, he leaves. So you basically just get one year locked in which is a wild card. There are a few rare situations in which an opt-out can make sense, if the team has prospects on the way but wants a premium player who can be a stopgap, but rarely do they work out favorably.
Replacing Valdez with Imai on THIS deal looks really dicey, at first glance.
The only reason he accepted this deal was the opt outs.
That doesn’t make it any better of a deal. Assuming all the risk if he sucks or gets hurt, but only get 1 year of production out of him if he pitches great. Yeah, no thanks. Nothing against the Astros, but that’s a ton of risk with very small reward
$18M per season is barely a risk at all in today’s MLB money. And they desperately needed a #2 starter in order to compete next year so I don’t see how it’s a small reward.
Have you seen the Astros rotation ? Hunter brown, Ryan Weiss, ?(maybe Christian Javier / Spaghetti / France / Alexander / McCullers. A bunch of injured and or in Mccullers case bad options. Not saying Imai is a sure fire option but at least it gives them a nice 1-2 punch with Hunter. Astros have a decent offense and bullpen, not so much of a rotation.
You forgot Burrows. And Javier isn’t a “maybe.” This is quite a solid rotation if Imai works out.
You’re right thanks for pointing that out. Definitely looks better with Burrows and Imai
If he pitches great, he’s gone next winter. If he sucks or gets hurt, the Astros are on the hook for the rest of his contract. That’s an enormous amount of risk. And if he pitches like the Astros are paying him to, they’re basically just showcasing him for every other team so he can chase 9-figures next winter. Like I said, yeah, no thanks.
Please say Arrighetti.
Christian Javier? Who is he? I’m pretty sure you mean Christian Javier.
Javier isn’t a maybe. France, Alexander, and McCullers are maybe.
It’s
Brown
Imai/Javier
Imai/Javier
Arrighetti/Burrows
Arrighetti/Burrows
And don’t forget Weiss, he’s legitimate.
Again, $18M per year for 2 years is barely a risk by MLB standards. And if he pitches great and leaves after a year, well that probably means he helped us make a playoff run. So I’ll thank him for the success and wish him the best. It’s a way higher ceiling move than say bringing back Verlander on a one year deal.
It’s also an exponentially lower floor. And Verlander would only be a year commitment and he isn’t getting 18 million and he’s getting older, but at least you know what he’s already done against MLB hitters.
If he’s good enough to opt out, then it probably means he helped the Astros make a playoff run, so be it.
Even with Imai pitching great, Seattle is going to be the favorite in the AL West. Him pitching great doesn’t guarantee anything. It could mean a Houston playoff run. It could just easily mean an early wild round exit. Or narrowly missing the playoffs.
Well they’re still trying to compete in 2026, and signing Imai is an important part of that. If he opts out, that’s a problem for 2027. They didn’t have to trade any players or lose any draft picks to get him, so it doesn’t do anything to hurt them long term.
Man, the “experts” really overestimated how much the NPB players would get, huh? What happened?
Perfect price for the Phillies, But as every Phillies fan knows, DD takes off during the holidays. He gets his business done quickly and enjoys his life the rest of December. He will sign retreads and bums for the remainder.
Better than anything the Phillies have after Sanchez and luzardo but dumpster Dave has nothing left to spend.
I thought Imai was holding up the SP market. This contract and destination makes me wonder if that’s the case, after all.
Imai Day!
I’m guessing this closes door on framber if it wasnt already.
As a Giants fan, this is disgusting to me. Team claimed they wouldn’t spend $300 million for a pitcher (supposedly like Imai), but more than happy to sign a broken down 31 yr old Tyler Mahle.
No one wanted him or he really wanted Houston.
Well, the “trend” is Japanese stars cheating. Maybe he just bet on the team that allows it!
That’s cute coming from a Cardinals fan. How soon you forget fall man Chris Correa
Congratulations, you win the prize for the most juvenile post of the day.
No one in top 25 on leaderboard had this one.
Incentives at 100 innings seems like a low enough bar to reach.
T Rex!!
Who needs TV when I’ve got T-Rex??
Ug, at that price Pirates should have offered 10m more and traded a another pitcher or two to fill offensive holes.
(edit: maybe they did and it has not been reported)
Wow! Surprised it’s only 3/56 + posting fee. Thats an amazing signing by the Stros.
The price is right, it looks like a fantastic deal.
While there have always been starters in MLB with smaller statures, the trend in the last decade or two has been for taller and bigger pitchers–am wondering if that affected his offers??-would love to be a fly on the wall and learn what some of the other offers he had were—its very possible that the Astros offer was the best for Imai, both in terms of dollars and contract?
Jed Hoyer 0-71 in attracting impact free agents
1-72, they got that Maton dude
Now he’s down to 140 pounds? He started out at 155 pounds in the comments. He’s been losing weight as the comments pileup.
Wait, re you talking about the 4’2 90lb guy the Astros just signed
4’2 is the height of a 1st grader. A 90 pound first grader?
Ummm….
you obviously aren’t a parent lol
I’m not.
@shadow. Its the same troll with multiple accounts. He must be a gremlin that needs water when he gets his height measured. Stroman was short, and he had 5 years. I wouldn’t mind giving him 3 the Astros got a deal.
Someone got a deal. I’m just not sure who yet. If this guy fails he’s still set with the contract he got. If he does good, he’ll opt out after the next season. I think this pitcher got himself a heck of a deal. Hopefully the Astros have themselves a good pitcher for the next three years.
Correction: Hopefully, the Astros have themselves a good pitcher for next year. If they have him for 3, he won’t be good.
And just like the last four Japanese superstars came here now the Phillies can say “well we tried. “.
One bonus out of this for Houston:
If Imai in pitches well and opts-out after year 1, they can place a qualifying offer on him which would restrict his market and provide draft pick compensation. So the contract upside is slightly higher than it appears.
If he opts out after year 1 doesn’t he go into pre arbitration or is it just an opt out to go back over seas?
I thought there was something about this in the CBA?
As he’s at/over the age of 25 and has already completed the prerequisite amount of playing time (6 years) in a recognized foreign league, he doesn’t qualify for pre-arb or arb team control and would become a free agent after his contract expires.
Thanks…
With the MLBPA expiring this year there’s no guarantee the qualifying offer will exist anymore
That’s it? Dombrowski wth man.
Brown, Imai, Burrows. How will the Astros fill out their rotation beyond those three?
Javier. You know, that guy with a World Series no-hitter on his resume.
The first 6 innings of a combined no hitter.
Still something very few others have
I know it was just a qualifying offer, but Grisham at $22 million by Cashman was by far the worst move this offseason
If he opts out after year 1 doesn’t he go into pre arbitration or is it just an opt out to go back over seas?
I thought there was something about this in the CBA?
Or maybe he is too old for that???
He is a FA not a prospect under 25 years old.
Free Agent
At least the reports of not much interest were accurate.
He is AI
Strike coming in 2027 and he has opt outs and can simply go back to Japan until the mess is resolved. Houston has its stadium naming rights owned by a Japanese company and those of us who live here know its diversity and Houstons hospitality offers him a team that feels small market but plays top level ball most seasons. Its a win for both sides.
Would be a lockout, not a strike.
This is the reason why players will never agree on a dead line to signed FA.
All leverage goes to the teams.
I am almost shocked at how low the contract is, and if he is even better than average, it’s a win for the Stros. Shocked even more that other teams didn’t beat that price range.
The 3 opt outs limit Houston’s upside immensely
Seems true to Imai’s desire to topple Ohtani’s Dodgers, by going to qn A.L. perennial contender. I thought possibly SF, but this puts him in a stro get position- in the A.L West Good move Houston if they’re going to contend with Seattle.
Hal sell this damn team! Omg ….
5’11” and 154lbs is a hard pass. Unless it’s Pedro Martinez.
Muscle mass will be easy for a US team to add
He ain’t 5’11”. Not even close.
Opt out after each year is crazy.
Creí q no firmarían a nadie los Astros.
Yo quiero Taco Bell
God knows why Stearns didn’t want him at this price. Can’t understand it.
It’s great when a guy signs like this and NO REPORTER has the signing team on their radar.
There’s those GD “opt outs” again. How’s a team supposed to have any continuity /fluidity when the player can just leave at the end of the season. A GM, I’d imagine, likes to have a 3-4 year plan and when the guy opts out, there goes the plan. I hate opt-outs. Jmo.
Beyond that, good signing.
Agree. And when the player goes full Rendon, the team isn’t cashing any rebates.
Opt outs are just another thing to be negotiated. They are unequivocally player friendly and very valuable, so including them will allow the team to propose a lower salary or shorter term or both. That’s clearly what happened here.
Yeah win-win. What’s not to understand?
Tatsuya Imai is small.
How small is he?
He’s so small that his bobblehead will be the size of a Pez dispenser.
This guy is gonna get torched by Dodger fans. He already didn’t want to play for them and now he chooses the Astros.
That quote is being overstated and misinterpreted. The guy was apparently having some fun. No big deal.
Dodgers fan since I was sperm headed up the canal and I agree. Nonsense for fans to grasp onto. All he was saying is he wants to play with the best players in the world and beat the best in the world. Right now, that is the Dodgers.
That is the mindset everyone should have.
In a prior world before clickbait, that comment would have raised zero eyebrows.
Maybe it got confused in translation. Perhaps it was Ohtani like interpreter and he was more focused on the over under betting stats
You get to interpret it the way you want to. I heard it as he did not want to sign with the Dodgers and would rather try to beat them.
In conclusion, this guy is gonna get torched.
Where did you “hear” this?
semantics…you can just run along. I’ve explained myself and could care less what you think.
Might have heard it at your mom’s house.
I was hoping they would sign him but they didn’t really need to.
“I want to take down the Dodgers. I also will be going to the opposite league to a team that has little chance of seeing these same Dodgers during the life of my contract.”
People read way too much in those comments
You mean direct quotes? It’s crazy to assume “take down” would mean “to beat”.
No, he probably said that to attract more interest in himself. I read it as “I want to beat the best team”, not the Dodgers specifically. Or it might’ve been a throw away line he said in an interview that got picked up in the US making it seem like he’s was challenging the Dodgers.
At least no whit the Japan Dodgers Angels already
Contracts do confuse me. 1, He gets a bonus for 100 innings. He is a starter, if he cannot go 100 innings you have an issue. 2. What opt out is not in the players advantage 100%? Fails miserably stay in, excellent year, move on to the highest bidder.. 3. Also confusing to me, buyouts, I decline my option so you pay me a buyout? That just don;t make sense. I decline your option, then yes the buyout makes sense. just saying
How is this confusing? Player friendly prove- it contract
But can he learn signals from trash can beatings?
Jed Hoyer is going to wait until he fails and hes sitting by the dumpster then he will sign him for a 1 yr contract.
Go Cubs Go! Go Cubs Go! Hey, Chicago, what do you saay? The Cubs only care about real estate investments in Wrigleyville that have destroyed the charm that even being a lovable loser brought….today.
Harry Caray is rolling over in his Cracker Jack box.
Harry Caray = mean drunk. Ask Milo
Dumpster – Milo for sure had no love loss for Harry. I’m not going to speak ill of the dead. People are complicated. The Cubs, and baseball, probably never had a better salesman of the game than Harry on WGN. But yeah – Harry had enemies.
Gotta love that 40k square foot warehouse hangar Captain Morgan – Fridays- Bowling Alley – Rally House spectacle brought to you by DraftKings. So much character!
lol what an unhinged response
Astros fans come get your guy
I’m wary of those opt outs.
I care about 2026. If he opts out that’s next year’s problem.
Not a Yankee. Not an Oriole. I love this signing
Well the first part of this rant is false. Yamamoto, Imanata, and Senga were all fantastic right away. So was Ohtani. And Darvish. But the latter half is more reality-based. I don’t really get the attraction for the Astros when the most – by definition- they can get from Imai is one good season, since after that he’ll be gone. The only thing I can come up with is they are hoping he’ll be good right away so they can trade him next Summer.
Right, Japanese pitchers are more known for getting off to great starts then tapering off, like Imanata, Senga, and Nomo.
Nomo, Maeda, and Matsuzaka were also excellent from the beginning.
Loose sight?
The attraction is that they have a good enough rotation to compete in 2026. If he opts out, that’s 2027’s problem.
here is the future—Shows well in Houston, opts out, joins dodgers for 100+million
As I stated in my post on the Cubs, Phillies, Yankees Among Teams Interested In Tatsuya Imai article on December 4th…
“ayeah
December 4, 2025
The chances of the Phillies signing him are about as good as snow in the Southtown USA. And I don’t mean south Philly, I mean Southtown, USA. And there is no chance Mother Nature is going to step in to save the Phillies and get him signed for them.
Mentioning the Phillies in the headline was just a teaser to get clicks of Phillies fans to read the article.”
Quoting yourself? Do you have a publicist too?
Only his ego
Didn’t have that on my bingo card
Oh… Snap!!
Much ado about meh
They should do an opt out after every start, weekly bidding by every team. Then bang, right back on the market
Has anyone else noticed that almost all the rumors have been wrong this year.
They usually are. It all comes down to getting clicks on the writer’s articles.
A few years back there was an article about the WRITERS at the winter meetings. When it was slow they still needed page hits and published space. So some were very literally just making rumors up to print.
Good deal
ゴミ箱を叩く
He’ll love pitching with the Crawford boxes over his shoulder
Yamamoto is one of the best starters in MLB.
Yamamoto was the NL Pitcher of the Month in both April and September. So far in MLB, he has a 2.66 ERA, a 2.83 FIP, and a WHIP of 1.032. He got better late in the season, not worse.
In his last five starts of the regular season, he pitched 34 innings, allowed 11 hits, 3 earned runs, and struck out 44 batters. So you are WRONG. Let’s see if you’re man enough to admit it.
Congrats to Astros fans, he definitely checks off one of the checklist for Dana Brown.
At the same time, Hoyer dropped the ball here, especially for the money he’s getting paid.
What no stinking Dodgers?
“Opt out after every year” makes this a bizarre move for the Astros. Small wonder he took it, despite the relatively low AAV.
And we were given the impression the Astros were broke. 😂
Surprised he’s losing face and disgracing his family by signing with such a cheating organization. He definitely will feel the shame.
Interesting. I expected the yankees to go all in.
Considering how the two big Japanese names signed for much less than anyone projected, I have to wonder how to will effect the decision of some Japanese players to leave NPB.
Based on what, countless articles by media not in the know as far as Yankee trade/acquisition rumors? For weeks, if not months, the Yankees have not been reported “in” on this guy.
So, this is 1M$ a year more than Devin Williams (correct me if I’m wrong). Mets must be really down on his prospects.
They probably weren’t willing to let him opt out after every year. This contract has very little upside for Houston
It’s a good analogy. I think a lot of teams see him as a reliever long term, because of his size and limited 3rd and 4th pitches. He really needs velo to succeed and at sub-150 lbs that’s hard to sustain. Remember NPB pitchers throw every 6th day and with a lighter ball.
How much lighter? Do you really think that’s a big deal?
This completely makes sense for Imai.
He said he didn’t want to be on a team with other Japanese players because he wanted to adjust to the culture on his own.
He’s the only Japanese MLB player in the state of Texas.
And if he doesn’t like it, he can opt out. If he loves it? He opts out and resigns for more.
If he opts out he ain’t re-signing. That would mean he’s been effective, in which case the NY’s and LA’s will blow away any offer Houston makes.
If he’s good, Houston makes a QO. That may get him for a 2nd year.
LET’S GO!!!
I was wishing he would sign, but it actually happens!!!
YAY!!!!
I think that he will be competing with Javier for a No. 2 spot
Really gotta change the posting fee rules to account for opt outs
Jung ho lee is japanese apparently
Borazz. . .
Good signing for the Astros, now they just have to hope the rest of the rotation can stay healthy
It is fascinating how many people, including insiders and reporters and national experts, thought as recently as yesterday that the Cubs were going to sign Imai. Only we real, longtime Cubs fans, who live here in Chicago and know the team and its ways in our bones, understand just how inept and corrupt and dishonest the Ricketts ownership and Hoyer management are. There was never a chance.
You didn’t want him. There are better free agents on the market.
Hoyer saving more of Ricketts’ money.
Love it
have to assume the looming lockout impacted his market
Wonder how this bodes for Seattle?
Was secretly hoping the Angels would sign Imai (along with Okamoto) as they need a frontline starter. Good move by Houston.
Orange, I had him going to the Angels in the contest
As a Cubs fan, I’m *proud* to say that we now lead the league in…drumroll, please…payroll flexibility! Due to Jed Hoyer’s heroic restraint, the Cubs will be in a great position to take on the Dodgers by 2032. All hail the Gods of EBITDA and cashflow management! May the Ricketts’ balance sheet live long and prosper!!!
Damn it ! I was hoping the Mets would’ve signed him
Rival of the Dodgers: check
Face them in the WS: check
Competitive team: check
No Japanese players: check
Very different culture from Japan: check
Actually makes total sense.
The Astros and Dodgers aren’t rivals unless they’re playing in the World Series (unlikely).
They are rivals because of the Astros cheating scandal.
There is a lot of animosity between those teams, way more most interleague teams.
And the Astros swept them in their most recent meeting.
LoL… im a yankees fan but anyone who trolls the yankees on this. Is beyond me. They yankees never even spoke to Imai.. the yankees have been saying they are watching what they spend.. you will not see a signing for NY above 2.5-3 million unless its bellinger, Or after he signs. If the yankees add a starter it will be the week prior to pitchers and catchers reporting and I can see NY add 1 started for 3-5 mill with incentives maybe a bassitt / scherzer type that has a year or 2 left in the tank
You’re not getting Bassitt or Scherzer for $3-5m.
If a veteran pitcher is out there 1 week prior and they are nearing age 40.. they don’t need the $ they will sign for 5 million plus incentives ( that could end up being 10 to 12 million for 1 year) scherzer was 5 and 5 with a 5plus era he isn’t getting a base salary of 12 to 15 million again at age 41
It took a new year to make me understand that the Tigers do not even bother to invest a medium amount in order to sign an interesting pitcher, ideally bolster the rotation which is questionable except for Skubal and put themselves on the map with regard to the emerging Japanese market. Expecting any steps forward simply was too much, obviously.
Gruß,
BSHH
They don’t have the money to compete with those players’ other suitors, except in rare instances when the big boys aren’t interested in a guy for whatever reason (usually a good one).
I’m curious, do you all think that the fact that the big market high revenue teams spend most of the money is some sort of weird coincidence?
1.26 career whip in Japan. Interesting to see if he uses his opt outs
I thought he was guaranteed to sign with the Padres because Yu Darvish ????
How do you give a guy 54M without ever throwing a pitch in MLB?
Just playing devils advocate…if you had a choice between him, Trevor Bauer or Emanuel Clase, who would you give that contract to?
How do you give a guy $300M without ever throwing a pitch in the MLB?
First you need to have $300M…
Huh?
You scout him overseas? Its not like there is different gravity over there.
The same way the Dodgers gave Yamamoto $350M – look how that turned out.
So the sky is falling again, Chicken Little ?
As a Braves fan, I approve of this delusional rant. Good luck with your impending doom, lol. You can probably get a tin foil hat at a good price from one of the “it’s the end of times at the New Year” folks in an after New Years day sale.
Did anyone in the contest have him going to Houston? Can’t imagine so
Poor Brett Taylor desperately wants the Cubs to make a big free-agent signing or a big trade, and more generally to fulfill the blueprint he laid out for them at the start of the off-season, but they just won’t do it.
And if you read him carefully, as I as a student of rhetoric do, he keeps lowering the goalposts so at the end he can say they had a good off-season after all. He was sure in October that the Cubs would add a “top of the rotation” starter; since then, that has quietly morphed into “a top two starter” and then “a top-half starter” (half of 5?) and today “a top three starter.” We’ll be down into Patrick Corbin territory before long.
Best player (Alvarez) missed 112g due to injury.
Starting SS Pena was an MVP candidate before breaking a rib on HBP and missing 27 games, then missed the final 7 games injured again.
Starting 3B and All-Star Paredes missed 55 games with a tie hamstring then returned the final 9 unable to run or play in the field.
Starting CF Meyers having a breakout season missed 54 games with an injured calf then 2 weeks after returning, reaggrivated it causing him to miss the final 4 games.
Opening day starting 2B Rogers missed 91 games with various injuries.
Bench OF Dezenzo missed 104 games with elbow injury
#3 SP Arrighetti broke his thumb when hit by a linedrive standing in the OF during batting practice missing 4 months 4/6-8/6 then injured shoulder missing all of September.
#4 SP Banco – Tommy John Surgery last start 5/17
#5 SP Wesneski- Tommy John Surgery last start 5/6
Closer (Hader) injured 8/8 missed rest of season.
#1 replacement SP Walter – Tommy John Surgery last start 7/23
Got #3 level SP Garcia back 9/1 reinjured Tommy John Surgery after 2 starts 9/9
Set up RP Sousa injured elbow 8/20 missed rest of season.
RP Ort missed 48 games over 2 IL stints.
#2 level SP missed the 1st 111 games recovering from Tommy John.
SP McCullers missed 96 games over 4 IL stints.
Then there were a dozen or so AAAA players hurt several games.
Bad… luck?
“Every team has injuries.”
– every other poster on this site.
“They have lost some good players but they are well run and can easily bounce back to being more competitive.”
– me
Don’t skip your meds bro
Congrats Astros and fans. Truly happy for you, but WTH are the Cubs waiting for? $18 mil per year and that was too much for you for a top starter? You wanted to add to the rotation with a legit starter and this was probably the cheapest option. I have no idea why a top 5 revenue team spends such a small percentage on their 26 man roster. This will come back to bite them during the season and in October. Again, not throwing shade at Houston, Im just tremendously disappointed in the Cubs leadership. Congrats Houston on a great pickup!
There was a story published the White Sox were front runners for this guy and it gave hope.
Then came back down to earth realizing once again that multibillionaire Reinsdork is still our controlling owner and knew he wouldn’t spend that kind money. One of only two major league teams without a player contract over $100 million for its duration!
Meh imai is and remains mid. Dont really need that at this point of the rebuild. Hes sorta a Martin Davis guy rat-packer another guy which they have in spades. Maybe even the new guy K from Japan
Only $18M + $3M = $21M for a good performance audition year before opting out and signing again for more … or $18M a year for maybe 3 sub-par performance years … can’t see how this kind of deal is good for any team that would have proposed or accepted such a deal.
Houston has zero chance against LA. Should have picked an NL team. NL teams that can beat the Dodgers are the Phillies, Mets, Padres. I was going to say the Brewers, however they got swept last year.
Astros swept the Dodgers in LA with a AAA lineup but go on.
If that’s like that, shouldn’t the Dodgers have over 140 wins?
Forgot about the posting fee. This deal is looking weirder and weirder for the Astros. If he’s good, they paid out $28m for a year and he’s gone. And if he’s bad or hurt it’s even worse.
It feels like a strong 50/50 split as of late of players coming from Asia to players going to Asia 🤔
“No Japanese pitcher EVER comes here and looks good” What a stupid statement. The Dodgers have 3 of them and they all look great.
‘The Yankees, Mets, Cubs, Phillies, and Orioles were among the clubs interested in signing him, so the Astros are a bit of a surprise’ –
Obviously they just didn’t know all the teams interested in signing him, but an interesting way to double down.
How many times do we need to say it….the Yankees weren’t anywhere on this guy….not to disparage his abilities, but the Yankees have other lines in the water and they WEREN’T IN on this guy from the start…….
Rocky,
527 if my calculations are correct.
Nobody really knows who’s really into who this offseason…. Including you…
Holy crap the Cubs are CHEAP!
It’s now more flexible to trade players for what. Before then, they strictly wanted starting pitching, now, they could be more flexible and say get prospects and maybe a catcher or left handed hitter so to speak.
Too bad pitchers don’t bat anymore…..the fans of 29 teams would like to serve up a beaner…..
? Speak for yourself
It’s crazy, I rarely meet a Cubs fan in real life yet every article on here is just inundated with complaining whining Cubs fans
Where do you live?
I’m a dodger fan but born and raised in the sf bay area. You?
Born and raised in Socal.
I have seen some Cubs hats and most of the time it’s someone who grew up in Chicago or their family are generational Cubs fans. Gotta respect it.
Tho contract is stupid when you add in the paying fees.
If he projects as a mid rotation starter this price makes sense. What doesn’t is the earlier projections