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Tigers In Serious Talks With Adam Dunn

By Tim Dierkes | November 17, 2010 at 2:04pm CDT

2:04pm: ESPN's Jerry Crasnick tweets that a source says talk about Dunn going to the Tigers is "way too premature." Detroit likes the first baseman/outfielder/DH, but they're not that far along in talks.

12:42pm: Adam Dunn is moving closer to a deal, maybe with the Tigers, tweets Joel Sherman of the New York Post.  SI's Jon Heyman tweets that Dunn and the Tigers are in serious talks, but big man is not close to an agreement with any team.  The powerful left-handed slugger is known to be among Detroit's targets.  He could fit as their regular left fielder, perhaps getting the occasional start at DH or first base.  The Tigers have been aggressive so far this offseason, and to secure Dunn this early they'd probably have to guarantee four years.

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  1. LiveFastCyYoung

    12 years ago

    I want Dunn but what the hell are the Tigers going to do with Guillen now? I think this definitely says Magglio is gone.

    Reply
    • Jeff Roberts

      12 years ago

      Guillen will see a lot of time at the DL position.

      Guillen will likely see time at LF and 2B when healthy. You can’t really count on him starting 150 games anymore.

      Reply
      • Jerry M

        12 years ago

        You cant count on him to start 150 innings anymore…

        Reply
      • Patrick OKennedy

        12 years ago

        The Tigers essentially spread Guillen’s contract out another year when they added a fourth year to his deal. His agent was using Miguel Tejada as the benchmark, and he was a shortstop at the time. That only lasted a year, which instantly made Carlos over- paid. The right number for him was 39- 42 mil over three years, but they went to 48 and four. So just take whatever the team can get from him in 2011 and consider it gravy on the cake. When he’s healthy, he can still handle a bat. But Dunn can’t handle a glove no matter how healthy he gets.

        Reply
      • snapcase8p

        12 years ago

        Pls Pls Pls do not sign Dunn. He is a lifetime .231 hitter with RISP. That’s not protection. And for all of you that are going to say “yeah but he walks 100 times.” That just means its going to take 2 hits minimum to drive him in. Even with a ball in the gap he’s only getting to third. Not to mention his highest hit total in a season is 151. Fork over the extra 8 mil or so a year for Crawford slot him into the 3 hole and resign Magg or VMart for 5th. Step it up Cubs before the Tigers do something stupid. We will regret signing Dunn if it happens.

        Reply
    • airohpue13

      12 years ago

      I think it was kind of their plan going in that Guillen would be used as a supersub in between DL stints. If that doesn’t work he could be traded (tigers pay almost his entire salary) or straight up released. The tigers have shown in the past that they’re not scared to eat bad contracts.

      Reply
    • Dave_Gershman

      12 years ago

      I knew he’d sign a deal with an AL team…I want to see them get this done.

      Reply
    • YODA777

      12 years ago

      Who cares what they do with Guillen lol. Who would you rather have, Maggs or Dunn? Add V-Mart to the mix and we are all set, except for the manager of course. Leyland will probably still bat Sizemore in the 3 hole lol.

      Reply
    • Wockenfuss

      12 years ago

      I think the market, more than anything, determined that Maggs would be gone.

      Reply
    • snapcase8p

      12 years ago

      Pls Pls Pls do not sign Dunn. No more slow station to station runners. He is a lifetime .231 batter RISP. Hardly what you would call protection. Fork over the 8 mil. more a year for Crawford. Slot him into 3 hole and resign Maggs for 5th or VMart. Whatever you do, just don’t sign Dunn. It will be a bad move. Step it up Cubs before the Tigers do something stupid.

      Reply
  2. $1529282

    12 years ago

    Well let’s see, they gave Joaquin Benoit 3/16.5…. so an Adam Dunn contract will probably be something like 9/200. 🙂

    Reply
    • ToledoFan

      12 years ago

      LOL, seriously though, I see a deal ranging from 4/48 to 4/60 for him.

      Reply
    • airohpue13

      12 years ago

      I’m thinking 4 year 75-80

      Reply
      • The Nicker

        12 years ago

        You two are nuts if those are serious proposals. At least I hope you are. He’s a DH for us, nothing higher than 3/40 for him and I’d be pretty angry.

        Reply
        • Natinals

          12 years ago

          If you dont go higher than 3/40 youre not gonna get him. He wants four years

        • jphenix2002

          12 years ago

          get ready to be angry nick the Tigers have to overpay to nab FA’s. 4 years and 75 mil is ridiculous though

  3. Karan

    12 years ago

    Cabrera and Dunn back to back is scary !

    Reply
    • Brad

      12 years ago

      Like Stephen King scary.

      Reply
    • the_show

      12 years ago

      And the tigers will still suck, they need pitching

      Reply
      • airohpue13

        12 years ago

        How do you figure? Verlander, Porcello, Scherzer, Coke, Oliver/Turner/Gallarraga/free agent or trade isn’t bad at all.

        Reply
        • the_show

          12 years ago

          Porcello sucks Detroit fans continue to over hype that guy

          Gallarga isn’t good

          The tigers do not have great starting pitching plain and simple

        • YODA777

          12 years ago

          What are you, a disgruntled White Sox Fan lol? Switch to decafe dude.

        • chreeschan

          12 years ago

          Porcello is 21 years old and just finished his second major league season. Most prospects are older than him. I’d say he’s doing pretty well.

        • moonraker45

          12 years ago

          I don’t think you can write off Porcello that quickly.. if he finished top 10 in Cy young voting next year i dont think any one would be shocked, he has filthy stuff, last year was just a hiccup on a count of being rushed through the minors so quickly..

          He’s still 22 and bonafide stud.

        • the_show

          12 years ago

          I didn’t know you can suck and be labeled a “stud”

        • verlander

          12 years ago

          //The tigers do not have great starting pitching plain and simple//

          This is an ignorant comment. Have you forgotten Justin Verlander?

        • not_brooks

          12 years ago

          This is an ignorant comment. Have you forgotten that Verlander pitches just once every five days?

        • airohpue13

          12 years ago

          This is an ignorant comment. Have you forgotten that Scherzer was even better than Verlander for much of last season?

        • not_brooks

          12 years ago

          Ok, so the Tigers had a mediocre starting rotation when Scherzer was good in the second half of 2010.

          WOOHOO!

          Three points here:

          1. Detroit hasn’t signed Dunn yet.

          2. Big offense doesn’t equal a winner.

          3. Let’s see some consistency from Porcello and Scherzer before we go nuts over them.

        • verlander

          12 years ago

          Scherzer was pretty consistent after his Toledo stint.

          And Porcello improved in the second half, as well, and has all the talent in the world. It’s not that unrealistic to expect him to rebound from his ’10 season.

        • Patrick OKennedy

          12 years ago

          The Tigers team ERA was 12th out of 14 in the league.
          The rotation ERA was 11th of 14 in the league.
          I like the top three, although Porcello is still a work in progress. If they think that moving Phil Coke from the pen is all that they need to do, I think that’s foolish, but I have to believe that some sort of upgrade for the rotation is in order, considering that $ 34 million was allocated to starting pitchers that are gone. The Tigers still need help in the rotation

        • verlander

          12 years ago

          How is Justin Verlander not a great starting pitcher?

        • not_brooks

          12 years ago

          I never said he wasn’t.

          I just implied that there’s a huge difference between having “great starting pitchING” and having one “great starting pitchER”.

        • Hoosierdaddy92

          12 years ago

          Verlander is great. Scherzer is great, and Porcello is pretty good and has the potential to be great. Oliver, Crosby, Turner, Furbush, Smyly all represent potentially great future top-mid rotation starters. The Tigers don’t need to spend money on pitching. It’s on the way.

        • airohpue13

          12 years ago

          Lol. Way to give up on a 22-year old because of a sub-par second season…

        • jphenix2002

          12 years ago

          This guy is a joke, dont take him seriously. I do agree that Galarraga is average at best though.

        • airohpue13

          12 years ago

          Don’t get me wrong I do too. Just saying there are options for open competition among the young guys and gallaraga.

      • Jeff Roberts

        12 years ago

        But they just signed Joaquin Benoit! 🙂

        Reply
  4. kaf64

    12 years ago

    NOoooo! The A’s need Dunn’s power. Beane better start multitasking.

    Reply
    • not_brooks

      12 years ago

      Dunn is about the only power hitter on the FA market whose power would translate to McAfee.

      I’d love to see Adrian Beltre in green and gold, since he’s essentially Big Kouz with a bat, but I wouldn’t count on much more than his Seattle numbers in that stadium.

      Of course, I wouldn’t want to see Dunn at first over Barton and the outfield is way to crowded. So I wouldn’t expect the A’s to make a serious run at Dunn unless he actually is willing to DH 75% of the time.

      Reply
  5. airohpue13

    12 years ago

    I hope you’re right Timmy. Don’t toy with my emotions.

    Reply
    • Tim Dierkes

      12 years ago

      You hope Sherman and Heyman are right…they’re the ones with the scoop.

      Reply
      • airohpue13

        12 years ago

        True. Don’t worry I won’t kill the messenger.

        Reply
  6. rwdavis22461

    12 years ago

    Dave Kingman of the 21st century with Dunn in LF he better hit 50 hrs he be letting in 50 extra runs in LF . lol

    Reply
    • Childress

      12 years ago

      Ever seen Raburn/Guillen out there? I’m used to the ball landing in left field anyway, at least Dunn can hit.

      Reply
      • airohpue13

        12 years ago

        Very true comment. I hate when people on here talk about Raburn like he is a defensive improvement over even Ordonez. Raburn is the worst major league player I have ever seen at picking up fly balls off the bat.

        Reply
      • verlander

        12 years ago

        Raburn is an adventure in the outfield.

        Reply
        • The Nicker

          12 years ago

          Adam Dunn makes Ryan Raburn look like Carl Crawford in left field.

        • airohpue13

          12 years ago

          Is he worse out there than Marcus Thames? I actually thought Thames was better in the field than Raburn.

  7. RiverKKiller999

    12 years ago

    No no no not LF.. Put him in CF lol…

    Reply
  8. AaronKrager

    12 years ago

    That would be an interesting lineup. Do you put Cabrera in the 3 hole now if it happens?

    Reply
    • rbeezy

      12 years ago

      I still think they want Maggs back as long as it is reasonable and healthy to play RF. The line up would be a contender:

      Jackson
      Sizemore
      Ordonez
      Cabrera
      Dunn
      Raburn
      Peralta
      Inge
      Avila

      Reply
      • YODA777

        12 years ago

        Why do you put sizemore in the two hole, because as per Leylands style, we need an automatic out somewhere hitting in front of Miggy? Either Maggs or Guillen could hit out of the two hole and Miggy in the 3 hole. I think the Tigers are still going to sign V-Mart.

        Reply
        • airohpue13

          12 years ago

          If Dunn and VMart end up on the tigers, Ordonez is gone. Guillen can be in the 2 hole for the 45 games he is healthy.

      • melonis_rex

        12 years ago

        Dunn and Magglio in the same outfield? Austin Jackson can’t cover all that empty range.

        Reply
  9. Motor_City_Bombshell

    12 years ago

    If they nab Dunn…he better be the DH. I will not stand for his horrid defense patrolling right or left, especially in the spacious Comerica Park.

    That said, the Tigers have been getting busy the past couple hours. I’m loving it.

    Reply
  10. caseyo4

    12 years ago

    Dunn+Crawford would be the real coup…

    Reply
    • Jerry M

      12 years ago

      If they really plan on putting Dunn in the field, we need another speedster on the opposite side to allow for Jackson to play more left-center to cover Dunn.

      Reply
      • john

        12 years ago

        How about Crawford in left center, Jackson in right center, and Dunn in foul territory with explicit instructions to never enter the field of play.

        Reply
        • Pawsdeep

          12 years ago

          That sounds about right!

    • Tigerfan93

      12 years ago

      Not an unreasonable thought either. Longshot, yes. Impossible, HELL NO

      Reply
    • verlander

      12 years ago

      Noooo, that can’t happen. I’d have a heart attack from the AWESOME.

      Reply
  11. Navin Vaswani

    12 years ago

    DETROIT BE CRAZY YO.

    Reply
  12. ToledoFan

    12 years ago

    Interesting development. I had thought that if the Tigers were trying hard to sign Victor Martinez, that getting a full time DH would be out of the question because of the need to rest VMart often, yet keep his bat in the lineup. Perhaps they are less eager to sign VMart because the Red Sox will now go all out to keep their catcher, and the Tigers don’t want to go that high on Vmart? So either the Tigers are going away from Vmart or they really do intend for him to take on full time catching duties, which if you ask me, is a big risk. This is of course assuming that Dunn will be a DH. I suppose you could play him in LF, but that will be scary. Either way, Guillen is certainly now destined for a platoon roll at 2B/DH/LF. Defense could be an issue though.
    Peralta SS
    Guillen 2B
    Dunn LF
    Martinez C.
    Tiger pitcher better bring their A game on those days.

    Reply
    • Jerry M

      12 years ago

      It’s looking like we are wanting a new 2B (as is apparent by going for Uggla). I wouldn’t be shocked if we went after a pitching and 2B combo in a big trade. I’m willing to also say that I think that 2B will be a defensive type of player.

      Reply
      • mistermonkey

        12 years ago

        Orlando Hudson is expected to become a free agent — he signed with the Twins last year for only $5M for one year. That would be a pretty nice upgrade from what the Tigers have and fairly inexpensive — and he’s a switch hitter, as well.

        I mean, this wouldn’t suck, and it’s totally doable, and they’d still have $$ left over:

        CF Jackson
        2B Hudson
        LF Crawford
        1B Cabrera
        DH Dunn
        SS Peralta
        RF Raburn/Boesch
        3B Inge
        C Avila

        Reply
        • airohpue13

          12 years ago

          Hudson would be a really good fit. That lineup makes me drool, don’t think Dunn and Crawford would happen though.

    • dskirsa

      12 years ago

      If the Tigers are willing to spend so much on Benoit, then they should be more than willing to give some cash to V Mart.

      Reply
    • mistermonkey

      12 years ago

      I doubt Guillen plays 2B this year. He’s coming off another leg surgery. In fact, he’s a prime candidate to get flat-out released, like Sheffield did two years ago. At any rate, counting on him at all seems like a mistake.

      Reply
    • The Nicker

      12 years ago

      I’m with you dude, if we get Dunn I don’t want V Mart anymore. We can’t be investing that much in essentially three guys than can play like 1.5 positions.

      Reply
  13. airohpue13

    12 years ago

    If Dunn is playing in the field I think it’s more likely that he would be in RF.

    Reply
    • ToledoFan

      12 years ago

      Hell no. RF at Comerica is larger than LF. RF is where you stick Crawford or Werth if you get them, or you go with Raburn or Boesch if you don’t. You need guys who can MOVE patrolling RF. As good a fielder as Ordonez was, he still had problems from time to time track balls down out there.

      Reply
  14. williswinning

    12 years ago

    For those wondering what to do with Maggs, I say sign him for DH. He is still better than most options out there, and we could get him reasonably cheap. Plus you have Guillen that I would put in the Omar Infante role that he had for Atlanta last season.

    Reply
    • Pawsdeep

      12 years ago

      He is still the best overall FA RF on the market IMO. Putting mags in right field isn’t crazy, it makes perfect sense

      Reply
      • williswinning

        12 years ago

        Yeah, but if we get Dunn only one can play RF, Dunn or Maggs can not cover LF. At least I don’t think so.

        Reply
        • Pawsdeep

          12 years ago

          Dunn DH, mags in right. Makes perfect sense

          You’d have mags, cabbie, Dunn as the 3-4-5. They would be offensive juggernauts.

        • williswinning

          12 years ago

          Well might make sense to us, but not to Dunn. He will not sign a contract to be a DH.

        • Pawsdeep

          12 years ago

          Then he better be willing to take a pay cut because no one is going to sign him for his glove.

        • williswinning

          12 years ago

          LOL, true but the 35 HR’s and 100 RBI’s he will get will make up for it.

        • Patrick OKennedy

          12 years ago

          Mags can cover LF a whole lot better than Dunn!

        • williswinning

          12 years ago

          Either can cover it better than Billy Mays aka Raburn

  15. Garrett S

    12 years ago

    Just what the Tigs need, another 200 Ks. Makes sense with the signing of Inge (139 SO avg/yr) and Peralta (142 SO AVG/YR). Cabrera, Dunn is scary? What is scary is thinking about Dunn running around the outfield Comerica Park. Austin Jackson will have to play Left-Center all the time. Longtime Tigers fan who would veto the hell out of this signing if I had any say. Why not go after Crawford? He can do everything Dunn can’t do which is everything but HRs? He is who we need.

    Reply
    • InLeylandWeTrust

      12 years ago

      I am not so worried about Dunn’s defense. Is it awful? Yes. But we didn’t exactly have a gold glover at the corners with Maggs, Raburn, or Guillen anyways. Dunn brings 40 home runs, close to 100 RBI, around 100 walks, and he does it all from the left side of the plate. I have been wanting to get Dunn for years, heres to hoping we finally get ahold of him.

      Reply
      • Garrett S

        12 years ago

        The 40 HRs, 100RBI, 100 walks from the left side is a legitimate plus and something the Tigs need, but what he lacks can’t be overlooked. First, Dunn doesn’t want to be a DH but he isn’t suited to play ANY position. Will he be a cancer in the clubhouse if he doesn’t play the field? Second, if he does play LF as this article suggests there will be routine outs that will become hits and singles turned to doubles and doubles to triples while he is trudging around the outfield. He isn’t worth it in my opinion and if he gets overpaid like the Tigs have done so far with their signings, it is a big mistake. Put the money into the best talent and get an all-around player. Crawford fits Detroit perfectly and he can do it all (except HRs). He can hit the gaps and run forever, get on base for Cabrera, steal bases, score runs, and play great defense in one of the biggest outfields in the MLB. Dunn is not only a detriment in the field but also on base. He is a double play waiting to happen. Walks don’t mean much if you don’t get to second base. My opinion: Sign CC to play LF and VMart to DH/C. Wishful thinking? You’re damn right, but don’t sink $12M on a guy who strikes out 200 times a year and can’t play a position.

        Reply
      • The Nicker

        12 years ago

        Dunn in the OF should scare you. He’s by most metrics considered one of the worst OFers of all time. He basically cancels out most of his value when you put him in an OF corner. I wouldn’t mind the signing but he’s got to be in a 1B/DH platoon with Cabby.

        Reply
    • penpaper

      12 years ago

      Dunn provides protect for Cabrera no matter how many times he strikeouts. I do agree that playing him in the OF often isn’t a good idea but every 1-2 a week shouldn’t be a problem.

      Reply
  16. No Gimmicks

    12 years ago

    If Dunn goes to DET, Victor is back in Boston

    Reply
    • airohpue13

      12 years ago

      Not necessarily. You never know how deep Mr. Illitch will reach into his pockets. A DH/C and DH/RF/LF could still fit into an everyday lineup.

      Reply
      • Tom

        12 years ago

        His pockets aren’t so deep now that he has the Pistons as well…

        Reply
        • verlander

          12 years ago

          Ilitch hasn’t bought the Pistons yet.

        • airohpue13

          12 years ago

          It’s going to happen eventually though.

    • Jerry M

      12 years ago

      Yeah, I too would not count him out just yet. He said he wanted to get 2 of the big 4 available.

      Reply
    • moonraker45

      12 years ago

      Texas

      Reply
  17. Evan

    12 years ago

    Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!!!

    Reply
  18. rwdavis22461

    12 years ago

    I will say i respect Dunn he is a very good if not great player year in year out to jack out 40 hrs legitly and his fielding is ok not terrible i was teasing. come on Tigers fans have a sense of humor. I am a Mets fan i do . lol

    Reply
  19. tigers22

    12 years ago

    OH HECK YEAH

    Reply
  20. Wockenfuss

    12 years ago

    I don’t think they are done even if they sign Adam Dunn. Crawford will be the next target. I would also like them to go after a veteran starter coming off a bad year such as a Kevin Millwood or Aaron Harrang type. I also think Rayburn, Galarraga, Oliver, etc. could be used in a trade for pitching as well.

    If they get Dunn and Crawford, it’s a pretty nice lineup:

    A. Jackson – CF
    C. Crawford – LF
    R. Raburn – RF
    Miggy – 1B
    A. Dunn – DH
    J. Peralta – SS
    A. Avila – C
    B. Inge – 3B
    C. Guillen platoon w/ Sizemore or Rhymes – 2B

    Reply
    • InLeylandWeTrust

      12 years ago

      I’d love to sign Harang to a cheap deal to be the #5 starter. Coming off a few bad years, but he’s an innings eater.

      Reply
    • YODA777

      12 years ago

      Why bat Raburn in the 3 hole? Just because Leyland has gotten you use to his style of putting an automatic out in front of Miggy, lol? Move em all up one spot and put Miggy in the 3 hole.

      Reply
      • InLeylandWeTrust

        12 years ago

        Since when is Magglio an automatic out?

        Reply
      • The Nicker

        12 years ago

        Pretty simple Yoda, this is the lineup during the 6 weeks next season when Raburn is one of the top 5 hitters in the league. For the other 7 months of the season, Raburn will hit 7th/8th.

        Reply
        • YODA777

          12 years ago

          I guess you have a crystal ball as to when Raburn will hit and when he
          wont? How many games are you willing to lose with this experiment?

        • The Nicker

          12 years ago

          I was kidding. I was merely pointing out that Raburn is ridiculously streaky.

    • airohpue13

      12 years ago

      LOL. Raburn batting 3rd…how quickly people forget that he batted like .180 in the first half last year.

      Reply
      • Pawsdeep

        12 years ago

        As a platoon player. Look at his BA when he plays an everyday role over the last 3 years. He hit over 300 with an obs of 700 in over 60 games in that stretch as an everyday player.

        Reply
  21. RedSox31

    12 years ago

    If Detroit get Dunn and Martinez, maybe add another SP, the Twins will be giving up the Central division to the Tigers next year. Book it.

    Reply
    • YODA777

      12 years ago

      Having Leyland as your manager is like running down the road dragging a sea anchor. I dont count my chickens until they are hatched.

      Reply
  22. LongGone6

    12 years ago

    GET SOME DD!

    Reply
  23. LongGone6

    12 years ago

    Unfortunately, everyone and their brother is saying the Anaheim Angels of Los Angeles, Anaheim Co. are going to get Crawford, and yeah itd be nice to have him,
    But IF we get Dunn, and thats not done yet, we should focus on VMART next while driving up the price on Crawford.
    Too bad we couldnt get Uggla.
    Any takers think we should go after Uribe?

    Dunn, Vmart, Crawford, Uribe, de la Rosa/Penny??

    Reply
    • airohpue13

      12 years ago

      No need for Uribe. 3rd and short are locked up so I assume you’re talking about getting him to play 2nd. I think I actually would prefer a competition between Sizemore and Rhymes over that. I just don’t see Uribe as a big enough upgrade.

      Reply
    • The Nicker

      12 years ago

      Why do people want Dunn AND V Mart. Can you explain to me where these guys are playing in the field when we still have both of them and Cabrera in 2014?

      Reply
      • LongGone6

        12 years ago

        Are u really that unimaginitive? Between 1B/RF/LF/DH there’s plenty of room

        Reply
      • NYBravosFan10

        12 years ago

        Yeah I was wondering the same thing. You guys have one of the higher payrolls in baseball but how much do you have to spend this year? Dunn and V-Mart are going to require some serious coin.

        Reply
        • Tigers94

          12 years ago

          Like 70-80 million. With Willis, Robertson, Ordonez, Damon, Bonderman, and others contracts expiring, we have about 60 million left after the first few signings.

  24. InLeylandWeTrust

    12 years ago

    Eh he isn’t close to an agreement. I’m not getting my hopes up, wouldn’t suprise me at all if Kenny Williams comes out of nowhere and steals him. The White Sox have been interested in him alot over the past couple years also.

    Reply
  25. sourbob

    12 years ago

    Please let Dunn sign with Detroit so Jim Hendry doesn’t end up giving another good-but-not-great player in his 30s a full-retail price contract.

    Reply
  26. mistermonkey

    12 years ago

    I respectfully disagree about going after VMart if they sign Dunn — it should only be one or the other.

    With Cabrera locked and loaded at 1B, adding below-average fielders like VMart and Dunn would really hurt the team’s flexibility, especially farther into the contracts when neither player is an option to play in the field.

    Plus, Dunn didn’t play OF at all last year, either — so it would be strange to turn a lumbering giant like that loose in Comerica when they didn’t even let Damon do that very often last year.

    Crawford is the answer of course, but yeah, everyone wants him. Still, the Tigers can pretty much match or beat any offer.

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  27. not_brooks

    12 years ago

    With Dunn behind him, Miguel Cabrera would hit .360/.440/.690.

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    • airohpue13

      12 years ago

      I wouldn’t put it out of reach with him. If the deal happens, whoever is batting before those two would benefit big time as well.

      Reply
    • Pawsdeep

      12 years ago

      Add mags in from of him with Dunn and he could easily win the batting triple crown

      Reply
  28. Hoosierdaddy92

    12 years ago

    i would be impressed if the Tigers get this done. First big name free-agent signing in a long time. I wonder if they are trying to model the Rays heart of the order, 3-Crawford/Crawford (if they can sign him), 4 Longoria/Cabrera(all around phenomenal hitter) 5 Pena/Dunn(40 homer power, low avg).

    my guess is DD overpays for Dunn and goes like 5/60, under the condition Dunn is willing to DH

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    • InLeylandWeTrust

      12 years ago

      First big name free agent signing in a long time? How about Magglio, Pudge, and Sheffield to name a few…

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      • Patrick OKennedy

        12 years ago

        Pudge was before the 2004 season, Maggs before the 2005 season, and Sheff was acquired in a trade. He wasn’t a free agent. If the Tigers sign ANY free agent position player to a multi year contract, it will be their first since before the 2005 season- five years.

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        • Hoosierdaddy92

          12 years ago

          thats a considerable amount of time too for a big market team. And Magglio was coming off an injury, no teams wanted to pay him what the Tigers did, so they overpaid. Pudge they had to give 5 years, which was an extreme rarity for catchers at the time.

        • Patrick OKennedy

          12 years ago

          DD hedged his bets on both contracts with escape clauses, in case the particular injuries that were of concern cropped up again in the first year of the contracts. DD has not been burned by free agent contracts at all. He’s been burned by doling out lavish extensions, picking up options, letting an option vest, etc. Percival is the only real bust of a free agent on a multi year deal, and Polanco’s extension is the only good one (with the jury still out on JV and Cabrera who are looking good). Valverde’s two year deal was the first multi year contract given to a free agent in four years for the Tigers, which is really surprising considering the overall payroll.

        • Hoosierdaddy92

          12 years ago

          i agree, but you must agree that it is not easy to lure top free agents to Detroit.

  29. Aaron

    12 years ago

    I would still prefer V-Mart over Dunn because of his flexibility. However, that is quite the bat to put behind Caberera I don’t see any way that they sign Dunn for the outfield, he would be mostly DH. I would prefer V-Mart because he is insurance if Avila shows he can’t catch everyday and can still catch when facing lefties. Would then make a play for Crawford and if you lose out on him bring Ordonez back who could DH when V-Mart catches and get him out of the field a couple of times a week. People are undervaluing Raburn a but. I think Raburn has proved he deserves a spot in one of the corners. When he has played everyday all he has done is rake. The last two years in around 650 abs he batted .285 with 31 hrs. 100 or so RBI’s and 98 runs. While he was an adventure when 1st put in outfield he has steadily improved and was even ranked in the top ten in the Fielding Bible for LF’s. No one can deny that he has a plus arm.

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    • YODA777

      12 years ago

      The only thing Raburn has earned is to be part of a trade to another American League team to bring back some pitching lol.

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    • Hoosierdaddy92

      12 years ago

      I agree with you but not because of the flexibility argument, VMart is just as much of a defensive liability at C. The Tigers need some high average hitting players outside of Cabrera. AJax struck out 170 times last season, as a leadoff hitter. His .290 average from this season is virtually unsustainable at the K-rate. Peralta and Inge hit if we’re lucky .260, and Sizemore could hit for average, but hasnt done it yet, and Rhymes/Guillen/Avila/Raburn are all huge question marks. Now they add another low-average, high K-rate bat? I feel like V-Mart may have been the safer option.

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  30. Patrick OKennedy

    12 years ago

    Let’s get something straight: Adam Dunn is not an outfielder.
    He is a butcher in the outfield, no matter what he thinks of himself.
    If he won’t DH, then let him go.

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    • verlander

      12 years ago

      His talk about not DHing sounds more like a bargaining tactic than anything else, imo. I think if the money’s there, he’ll DH.

      Reply
  31. TartanElk

    12 years ago

    This is going to be a little bit crazy but here it goes:Sign Dunn and here’s how people shift around to make it all work semi-nicely:Dunn: 1B/LF/DH – Everybody’s happyCabrera: 1B/3B – Keep him comfortable and spell IngeInge: 3B/SS – Cabby takes over at 3rd for a day Inge is an upgrade at short over PeraltaPeralta: SS/Bench – Self ExplanatoryRaburn: LF/3B – Plays predominantly in the outfield, some infield to spell Inge.I probably didn’t put this out as eloquently as it is in my head, but i’ve thought a lot about this lately.

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    • Joey

      12 years ago

      Yeah. I really like Cabrera’s -36 UZR/150 at 3B (which was the number he marked two years ago). Troy Glaus would bunt down in that direction and get on.

      Reply
      • TartanElk

        12 years ago

        That was simply an idea, by no means was I say that was what had to be done.

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  32. Hoosierdaddy92

    12 years ago

    Don’t get me wrong, I love Adam Dunn, especially in a Tigers uniform, but couldn’t money better be spent on a cheaper, one-year deal for a full-time DH i.e. Vlad, Berkman, Derek Lee, or even Manny or Thome? I understand they are all significantly older than Dunn, but they are established hitters and would still provide decent protection for Miggy without being defensive and long-term economic liabilities? Ryan Strieby, one of the Tigers top prospects, is a poor man’s Adam Dunn already. If they get this done, they better either sign Carl Crawford or Jayson Werth, or package Strieby, and some of their other big name pitching prospects are packaged in a blockbuster deal to land Justin Upton to make up for the defensive liability Dunn will be and add more firepower to the offense. Once again, I would LOVE for the Tigers to get Adam Dunn but I worry with all the strikeouts in our lineup (Inge, Peralta, A-Jax, possibly Dunn) we could wind up being a reincarnation of the Diamondbacks this season. Great home-run stats, but terrible batting average, and subpar defense.

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  33. Hannah

    12 years ago

    I don’t care who it is, but the Tigers need SOMEONE who can hit protecting Cabrera. He took 30 IBBs in 2010, and that can really screw with you. Dunn & V-Mart are both good options. Both would be amazing. I guess it depends on everyone else & Illitch’s wallet.

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  34. Heliosphan

    12 years ago

    I don’t know if he’s a good fit there. He doesn’t want to DH, and that’s just what he’ll do. The Tigers really can’t afford to have another bad defender out there, with Cabrera’s mediocrity at 1B and with Peralta being a poor defender. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a professional hitter and he’s going to get his money, but I see a club like the White Sox as a better fit.

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    • verlander

      12 years ago

      Do you really think that Dunn DHing over playing the field will be the dealbreaker?

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      • NYBravosFan10

        12 years ago

        I’m no expert on this but I’m pretty sure contracts include where you’ll be playing the majority of the time correct me if I’m wrong please though

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  35. NYBravosFan10

    12 years ago

    This would be a PHENOMENAL move for the Tigers. A signing like this could very well make last years disappointment a forgotten memory. A power tandem like Cabrera and Dunn is worth a ton and would help you guys knock the White Sox down and seriously compete with the Twins. If I was forced to pick an AL team to root for it would be the Twins and I like watching them do good but I’m also wishing the Tigers good luck in getting this deal done. 🙂

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  36. Tigers94

    12 years ago

    There are 3 teams bidding for Carl Crawford. Tigers, Angels, Red Sox. Hopefully Justin Upton goes to either the Angels or Red Sox. Then it will be a 2 team race for Crawford. If the Angels think Crawford is too much, the Tigers could lock up Crawford. If we also get Dunn, there is no way we dont get 1 run from our first four.

    Left Center- Austin Jackson
    Right Center- Carl Crawford
    1B- Miguel Cabrera
    LF/DH- Adam Dunn
    LF/DH- Ryan Raburn
    SS- Jhonny Peralta
    2B- Platoon of Rhymes, Sizemore, Guillen
    3B- Brandon Inge
    C- Alex Avila

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