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Andy Pettitte Will Not Start 2011 Season

By Mark Polishuk | January 12, 2011 at 8:28pm CDT

8:28 PM: Cashman tells Tyler Kepner of the New York Times that "he just used a poor choice of words" in describing Pettitte's situation.  (Twitter link)  Cashman says he meant to say that Pettitte has "chosen not to pitch" rather than "chosen not to start," though this doesn't necessarily mean that Pettitte has officially retired.  In another Kepner tweet, Cashman says he hasn't spoken to Pettitte about a Clemens-esque midseason return.

8:13 PM: Andy Pettitte has informed the Yankees that if he does return for the 2011 season, he won't be ready by Opening Day, reports Stefan Bondy and Nathaniel Vinton of the New York Daily News.  Brian Cashman said Pettitte told him to "don't count on me" but the GM noted that if Pettitte wanted to pitch later in the season, the door would be open for a return.

"I don't think he's determined if he's officially finished or not, but he's chosen at this stage at least not to start in 2011," Cashman said. "If that ever changes he'll call us. We're not going to hound him or bother him."

ESPN's Buster Olney pointed out last month that Pettitte would already be behind on his offseason preparations if he chose to return, so it's possible that Pettitte may still come back and is building in extra time to get ready for his 17th Major League season. 

Pettitte could take a page from his friend Roger Clemens' book — the Rocket didn't begin his 2006 and 2007 seasons, with the Astros and Yankees respectively, until June of those years.  Clemens was able to secure $22MM from Houston and a pro-rated $4.7MM per month deal from New York, and while Pettitte wouldn't get that kind of money from the Yankees, he could command more than the rumored $12-$13MM if the Yankees found themselves desperate for pitching by May.  

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127 Comments

  1. KenJr1918

    14 years ago

    And the hits just keep coming for NY.

    Reply
  2. East Coast Bias

    14 years ago

    Sergio Mitre it is =/

    Reply
  3. wickedkevin

    14 years ago

    Officially the best Red Sox off season ever (as of right now).

    Reply
    • CmaC

      14 years ago

      Now if they don’t win the world series, it will be the biggest embarassment ever.

      Reply
      • wickedkevin

        14 years ago

        Why? Their payroll is the same as last year.

        Reply
        • Vmmercan

          14 years ago

          So then surely you weren’t complaining in 2009 when the Yankees went out and replaced their own payroll? Something tells me you were.

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          • wickedkevin

            14 years ago

            Something tells me you shouldn’t fight back with assumptions.

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      • RedSoxDynasty

        14 years ago

        No! That distinction belongs to the 2094 Yankees who choked after being up 3-0 in the ALCS vs Boston. Now that’s embaressing!

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        • East Coast Bias

          14 years ago

          2094. embaressing.

          Next!

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          • wickedkevin

            14 years ago

            How do you know he doesn’t own a DeLorean with a Flux capacitor?!

            Reply
            • 0bsessions

              14 years ago

              ONE POINT TWENTY ONE GIGAWATTS?!?!

              Reply
              • ubercubsfan

                14 years ago

                Actually he said jiggawatts in the movie. I’m still hoping for the Rays to change their name to Florida Gators before 2015.

                Reply
                • wickedkevin

                  14 years ago

                  What in the hell is a jiggawatt?!

                  Reply
        • DunkinDonuts

          14 years ago

          “No! That distinction belongs to the 2094 Yankees who choked after being up 3-0 in the ALCS vs Boston. Now that’s embaressing!”

          I think I’ll give the 2094 Yankees a pass, as by that point a good chunk of their payroll will be devoted to an ill-advised extension that takes A-Rod into his 130s.

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        • MetsFanXXIII

          14 years ago

          Wow, didn’t know you had a crystal ball.

          Reply
          • MaineSox

            14 years ago

            Everybody knows crystal balls only exist in the movies. It was definitely tea leaves.

            Reply
        • sadp

          14 years ago

          Except that in 2094 the Blue Jays play the World Series vs. the Tokyo Samurais, so the Sox clearly lose that ALCS anyways.

          Reply
          • NL_East_Rivalry

            14 years ago

            Good to know the Jays finally get back

            Reply
          • 0bsessions

            14 years ago

            You’re operating under old rules. The 2094 Red Sox will beat the Yankees in the ALCS, but they will go on to lose the NWHCS (North-Western Hemipshere Championship Series) to the Jays in twelve games.

            Reply
        • RedSoxDynasty

          14 years ago

          Lol! 2004 obviously and damn my fat fingers on the iPhone keyboard! Loved the jokes though!

          Reply
  4. Ray R

    14 years ago

    I only need one word to sum this up:

    Oy.

    Reply
    • MatthewRKeller

      14 years ago

      Addendum: Vey

      Reply
  5. basemonkey

    14 years ago

    I think the late-career move to pitch half a season starting about July-ish is a shrewd move for these longtime vet pitchers. They’re trying to squeeze out as much quality performance as possible, without making themselves suceptible to the natural late-season attrition that happens to all pitchers. It’s always sad seeing a onetime pitching great, perhaps future Hall of Famer, struggle for a few years to convince themselves they’re done.

    The decline is a little more graceful, I think, for position players. With pitchers it can get kind of ugly.

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    • Since_77

      14 years ago

      I agree. Last season he was very effective in 21 starts in 30 starts he can get burnt out.

      Reply
    • wickedkevin

      14 years ago

      I understand for pitchers who obviously can’t take the innings anymore (Pedro), but Clemens and Pettitte have no reason except just having the free time.

      Reply
  6. JR_Tolls1

    14 years ago

    I woulden’t want to be NY right now, or Brian Cashman.

    Reply
  7. Kyle Haker

    14 years ago

    Ruh Roh Rankees

    Reply
  8. CitizenSnips

    14 years ago

    Jesus Christ stop being such a drama queen, Pettitte.

    Reply
  9. start_wearing_purple

    14 years ago

    I gotta imagine that Cashman has seen this coming for a while, if Pettitte hadn’t been preparing then it was simply more likely he wasn’t returning at the beginning of the season. I also have to wonder if this means Cashman will be more receptive to giving up a first round pick in order to get Soriano and ultimately try to create a lock down bullpen.

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    • andrewyf

      14 years ago

      Nah. They’re not signing Soriano. Cashman knows better than to think one single bullpen arm will make a difference either way. If they had no bullpen to speak of, it might matter, but the Yankees over the past three years have boasted a top-5 bullpen in the AL, and look to have a pretty strong one again this year.

      Anyway, it certainly wouldn’t make too much of a difference if Boston really is the juggernaut everyone thinks they are (they really did buy themselves a good team, kudos from a fan who knows how nice that is). In that case it’s the Yankees versus who, really, for the wild card? The Angels stink, and the Central is mediocrity galore. The Rays are their toughest competition, and they just lost their best position player, best like, 3 relievers, and a solid starter (although Hellickson should make up for Garza’s lost production). I don’t think Kyle Farnsworth is going to be the piece that puts them over the edge for 2011.

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      • MaineSox

        14 years ago

        I get what you’re saying and I don’t completely disagree but it isn’t really the Yankees directly against their competitors for the wild card. All another AL team would have to do is have a better record in a weaker division. If, for example, the Yankees end up second in the east with 90 wins and the Tigers end up second in the central with 91 wins the Yankees are out of the post-season.

        That being said I do think that there is a pretty good chance that the Wild Card comes out of the east again, and also I’m not one to count the Yankees out. I’ve seen too many off-season champions go on to disappoint during the season to hand this one to my Red Sox yet.

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        • Matty

          14 years ago

          Wait a second. So you’re tellin me if a team from another division has more wins, the Yankees don’t make the postseason? Groundbreaking.

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          • MaineSox

            14 years ago

            Yeah, my point was that even though the central is full of mediocre teams as andrewyf suggests, all a mediocre team has to do is win a bunch of games against other mediocre teams to take the wildcard from the Yankees. They don’t actually have to be better than the Yankees.

            Thank you for the sarcastic reply by the way.

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            • Matty

              14 years ago

              Haha just in a chippy mood and giving you a hard time bro, I get your drift.

              Reply
        • 0bsessions

          14 years ago

          I could picture the Central being a dark horse for the wild card. The Twins have proven repeatedly that they will pretty much always compete and, despite my belief they’re not a World Series team, signings like Martinez DO make the Tigers a better team in the short term. An already potentially dangerous lineup has gotten better and their pitching is overall strong.

          That’s not even accounting for your entirely valid point that those two strong teams will have a stagnant Indians team and an even worse for now Royals team to feast upon while the Yankees have to face what will be an at least slightly improved Orioles, a solid Jays team and a Rays team that is being seriously underrated by a lot of people (While I don’t see them competing for the division, Longoria and that pitching alone will keep them above .500 and they will remain a thorn in the sides of that whole division).

          The Tigers and Twins are definitely, in my opinion, worse teams than the Yankees on paper right now, but the Twins haven’t really declined from last year (And will likely only improve getting Nathan and Morneau back) and the Tigers are improved for the short term. Those improvements coupled with a weaker schedule could result in one of them grabbing the Wild Card out from under a stronger Yankees team (Though I would still put my money on the Yankees).

          Reply
  10. slider32

    14 years ago

    I like the idea of going with one of the prospects in the #5 spot. Let Phelps, Brackman, and Noesi battle it out in spring training.

    Reply
    • Since_77

      14 years ago

      They may have to do that or sign a stop gap like Kevin Millwood.

      Reply
      • 0bsessions

        14 years ago

        Unequivocably the wrong move.

        A warm body is a warm body, but a warm body in his early to mid twenties at least gets the benefit of having upward potential and will benefit from the experience of working out of the fifth spot, whereas a warm body like Millwood will just give you a below average performance while stunting the growth of guys with potential.

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  11. slider32

    14 years ago

    I agree, Soriano is the next move!

    Reply
  12. MatthewRKeller

    14 years ago

    Hoooo boy are the Yankees screwed.

    Reply
  13. Yanksfan2010

    14 years ago

    This is not good for NY. We need to get another quality starter in the rotation. So far all we have is The Great CC. The Very Good Hughes and The Downhill Burnett.

    Reply
  14. Chris Bosh

    14 years ago

    I wonder if the Yankees lack of big free agent signings this offseason may have affected his decision. If he comes back, he’ll want to come back to win and he might not be convinced they can do it right now. If they can’t, he’ll sit at home and can simply watch them fail. If they’re in the playoff race, he has the option of just saying, “hey, we’re going places and I want in.” Not saying that’s the kind of mentality he has, but just throwing it out there that maybe he waited so long to see what the Yankees could bring in, which was pretty much nothing.

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    • Since_77

      14 years ago

      I doubt was thinking like that because pennants and World Championships usually aren’t won on paper in January. Last January how many people thought the SF Giants would win the World Series.

      Reply
      • 0bsessions

        14 years ago

        I keep seeing this, but it misses the fact that they’re won on paper more often than not. The 2006 Cardinals, 2007 Red Sox, 2008 Phillies and 2009 Yankees were all expected to compete. Even the Giants themselves were considered a potential playoff team.

        The best team on paper can easily get knocked out of the playoffs by a few freak turns of events, but by and large, the teams people expect are who actually makes it, barring injuries. The Rangers and Reds were the only legitimate playoff team surprises last year and the Rangers weren’t that big of a surprise.

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      • 0bsessions

        14 years ago

        I keep seeing this, but it misses the fact that they’re won on paper more often than not. The 2006 Cardinals, 2007 Red Sox, 2008 Phillies and 2009 Yankees were all expected to compete. Even the Giants themselves were considered a potential playoff team.

        The best team on paper can easily get knocked out of the playoffs by a few freak turns of events, but by and large, the teams people expect are who actually makes it, barring injuries. The Rangers and Reds were the only legitimate playoff team surprises last year and the Rangers weren’t that big of a surprise.

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    • YanksFanSince78

      14 years ago

      I doubt that. The Yanks are still better than 80% of the teams in the AL.

      Reply
  15. Lewis Martin

    14 years ago

    Yankees should invest their money in a new GM rather than pitching after all of the fails they’ve had this off-season.

    Reply
    • Dylan Zane

      14 years ago

      They had one “fail”, and pettitte retired, but yea that’s enough to fire a great GM who’s been very successful throughout his time in NY.

      Reply
      • flickadave

        14 years ago

        I’ll argue with you all day that Cashman is such a “great GM”

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    • Since_77

      14 years ago

      I think he is doing the best he can,

      Reply
    • East Coast Bias

      14 years ago

      This is a ridiculous statement.

      Reply
      • YanksFanSince78

        14 years ago

        That’s an understatement. Cashman can’t make Lee sign and there aren’t any good options out there that are any better than what we already have. Half the critics are either Yankee haters or spolied Yankee fans.

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        • slider32

          14 years ago

          I agree, Lee took less money to go to the Phillies, nothing Cashman could do about that. Lee went to an easier league with a better pitching staff with a chance every year to go to the series. Plus he had success with Philly and the fans love him.

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          • ellisburks

            14 years ago

            And the Phillie fans haven’t spit on his wife………yet.

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    • bonestock94

      14 years ago

      Cliff Lee took less money to go to philly, definitely Cashman’s fault. Or are you one of those guys that things we should have signed Werth and Crawford to be our 4th and 5th outfielders?

      Reply
  16. DunkinDonuts

    14 years ago

    I generally don’t hide the fact that I love me some Red Sox. However, in the interest of objectivity, I will be very impressed if Cashman stays the course and makes it through the rest of the offseason without gutting his farm system or signing a Type-A reliever as a reactionary move. The Yankees have a solid enough core of AARP members to compete next season and thereafter, and they can serve themselves best by sprinkling a few home-grown/cost-controlled pieces in with the veterans, as the Red Sox did with Lester, Pedroia, and Youkilis. Even with unlimited resources and a few financial moves that were about as brilliant as lighting money on fire, the Yankees do not want to put themselves in a position where their entire roster is filled with players signed through their age-40 seasons, as it would put them in the untenable position of passing on potential upgrades at a given position simply to avoid tens of millions of dollars in sunk cost. By way of example, the Yankees will not be in on a premier corner infielder anytime soon, and it does not make sense to pay 1B/3B sticker price (plus the Yankee tax) for a DH, even for the richest team in baseball.

    The Yankees’ free-agent “misses” may well prove to be a blessing in disguise if they can resist the temptation to buy up all the free agent scraps or to make a shortsighted trade.

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    • andrewyf

      14 years ago

      “The Yankees’ free-agent “misses” may well prove to be a blessing in disguise”

      It will only be a blessing in disguise if they can get a number of different free agents that collectively perform better than Cliff Lee over the next 6 years.

      Doubtful.

      Reply
      • DunkinDonuts

        14 years ago

        Production like Cliff Lee’s doesn’t have to come from free agency.

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    • nyyfaninlaaland

      14 years ago

      Your AARP comment is cute, but the fact is the Sox roster on Opening Day – with putting Pettitte and Andruw Jones on NY’s roster – will be anywhere from 15 to 30 years older across the total 25 man group.

      But don’t let the facts get in the way of your metaphors.

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      • DunkinDonuts

        14 years ago

        What does the overall age of the Red Sox roster have to do with the point that the Yankees should surround their aging core with younger, cost-controlled players, rather than plug holes through free agency?

        Answer: absolutely nothing.

        But don’t let the overall theme of the post get in the way of your uncontrollable urge to turn a neutral post into a Boston v. New York pissing contest.

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  17. Patricio

    14 years ago

    Pettitte will pull a Pedro and start midseason. Watch.

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  18. Christina

    14 years ago

    “Pettitte could take a page from his friend Roger Clemens’ book” …. wait until the HGH clears his system and return mid-season.

    Reply
    • roomwithamoose

      14 years ago

      HGH doesn’t stay in the system for long, and that’s why it’s hard to test for amongst other reasons.

      Reply
    • RedSoxDynasty

      14 years ago

      they dont test for hgh!

      Reply
  19. Bobbytam

    14 years ago

    I hope CC dont think about opting out next year with nobody wanting to play or come to NY

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  20. YanksFanSince78

    14 years ago

    The ridiculousness of the criticizm ignores two simple facts.

    a) The Yanks are sending out the same team that won 95 games last year but are now w/o Pettitte, Wood and Vazquez but will have Feliciano, a well rested Ivan Nova for a full season (threw 176 IP last year, the most in his career) and a catching duo of Martin/Montero.

    b) They have what has been ranked by some as the #6 farm in baseball that currently features 7 near mlb ready pitchers and 2 near mlb ready C at AA or above.

    Yet ppl want Cashman to be fired. If Lee signs on the dotted line then he’s some sort of “genius”…unbelievable.

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    • 0bsessions

      14 years ago

      “Yet ppl want Cashman to be fired. If Lee signs on the dotted line then he’s some sort of “genius”…unbelievable. ”

      To be entirely fair, that remark is a two way street. Would you give Cashman credit for putting together the 2009 WS team? I mean, all he basically did was throw money at Teixeira and Sabathia until they signed. If he’s a competent GM for being able to get them in a Yankee uniform, he’s an incompetent GM for not being able to get them inked.

      Personally, my opinion is in the middle that he’s an average GM with a huge wallet. He’s neither brilliant, nor incompetent. My opinion of him going forward will be dictated by how he does going forward. If he panics and signs something subpar for big money (Ala Igawa after missing out on Matsuzaka), I’ll lean towards bad GM. If he stands pat and considers what resources he has at his disposal OTHER than cash, my opinion will be favorable.

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      • YanksFanSince78

        14 years ago

        I’m not one of those ppl that think that CC, AJ and Tex made the entire team. In addition to signing those FA he also acquired a couple of guys that helped in the 2009 run in Marte and Swisher and he also had some good players that were acquired thru the farm in Hughes, Joba, Gardner, etc. I don’t think Cash is a genuis but I think he’s a very good GM for a number of reasons. But to say he needs to be fired because he didn’t sign Cliff Lee is stupid, plain and simple. He obviously made a great offer even if it wasn’t more than the one Texas put forth but anything short of $25 mil x 7 would’ve had the same result.

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    • 0bsessions

      14 years ago

      “Yet ppl want Cashman to be fired. If Lee signs on the dotted line then he’s some sort of “genius”…unbelievable. ”

      To be entirely fair, that remark is a two way street. Would you give Cashman credit for putting together the 2009 WS team? I mean, all he basically did was throw money at Teixeira and Sabathia until they signed. If he’s a competent GM for being able to get them in a Yankee uniform, he’s an incompetent GM for not being able to get them inked.

      Personally, my opinion is in the middle that he’s an average GM with a huge wallet. He’s neither brilliant, nor incompetent. My opinion of him going forward will be dictated by how he does going forward. If he panics and signs something subpar for big money (Ala Igawa after missing out on Matsuzaka), I’ll lean towards bad GM. If he stands pat and considers what resources he has at his disposal OTHER than cash, my opinion will be favorable.

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    • ellisburks

      14 years ago

      As much as I am not a fan of the Yankees I don’t think Cashman should be fired. As a matter of fact it would be better for the Red Sox if he did get fired. He has proven that he is an above average GM even with the advantage of the money he has at his disposal. Even though he misses out on first rounders pretty much every season he has built a formidable minor league system.
      There have been mistakes but he knows he can make them and use the money to cover them up. I am sure if he was the Pirate’s GM he would take a different approach but he isn’t so he uses the resources he has available to make the Yankees a contending team every year.
      People should stop callilng for Cashman’s head. This was a weak year for free agents and he did what he could to make the Yankees a better team, it just didn’t work out according to plan. Life happens.

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  21. HHHDMS

    14 years ago

    Desperate for pitching in May ? Ha , desperate for pitching in Janauary
    The Yanks will sign some starters for sure maybe even a trade for someone
    AJ better find his form and a new pitch
    Hughes needs all the run support
    Mitre and Nova – the jury is out – and the jury is the Yankee fans
    CC better become the most dominant pitcher ever (which he isnt by far)
    Yankees are in big trouble and are having a lousy off-season

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    • YanksFanSince78

      14 years ago

      I seriously doubt Mitre will be the 5th starter. Count on someone emerging in ST to force him back to the pen.

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      • MaineSox

        14 years ago

        Too bad the Sox and Yanks are rivals, I’d gladly trade you Dice-K.

        Seriously though, I agree with you. I really don’t think they start the season with Mitre in the rotation, they have guys in the minors that look a lot better than him. Plus, there is always the opportunity for them to trade for a pitcher.

        Regardless, even if Mitre is in the rotation I for one am not going to count the Yankees out. They still have one of the best offenses in baseball along with a great bullpen capable of really shortening the game. So all a 5th starter has to do is get them to the 5th-6th inning without giving up more than 4-5 runs and they will have a chance to win a good number of those games. It’s not the way you want to play every fifth game but they are one of the few (maybe even the only) teams capable of playing, and winning, that way.

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        • 0bsessions

          14 years ago

          “Too bad the Sox and Yanks are rivals, I’d gladly trade you Dice-K.”

          Matsuzaka is an average MLB starter and beats the pants off of everyone behind him in the depth chart with the exception of MAYBE Doubront. I wouldn’t trade him unless Bowden completely turned it around or Wakefield was about five years younger.

          Besides, with the weak left side infield defense and the short right porch the Yankees have, Matsuzaka would be an unmitigated disaster for them.

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          • MaineSox

            14 years ago

            I was really only making a joke at the Yankee’s expense knowing that Dice-K would be a disaster on their team. I have actually made that same argument about Dice-K several times on here myself. Not only is there no reason to trade him but it wouldn’t make sense to, Doubront is the only guy who they could conceivably put in the rotation and I personally think he should spend time in the minors (or possibly the ‘pen) next season working on his curve, which last I heard had plus movement but is inconsistent and a work in progress.

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        • 0bsessions

          14 years ago

          “Too bad the Sox and Yanks are rivals, I’d gladly trade you Dice-K.”

          Matsuzaka is an average MLB starter and beats the pants off of everyone behind him in the depth chart with the exception of MAYBE Doubront. I wouldn’t trade him unless Bowden completely turned it around or Wakefield was about five years younger.

          Besides, with the weak left side infield defense and the short right porch the Yankees have, Matsuzaka would be an unmitigated disaster for them.

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    • Matty

      14 years ago

      The sky is falling! I didn’t get the pony I wanted for Christmas either! Sign Amare to DH! The Knicks are better than the Yankees!

      Reply
  22. Pool Messi

    14 years ago

    “Pettitte could take a page from his friend Roger Clemens’ book”

    You mean I get to hear Waldman go gaga all over again? “OH my goodness gracious!!!!!”

    Priceless!

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  23. slider32

    14 years ago

    It will be interesting to see which pitcher emerges as the #5 out of spring training. The Yanks have six B prospects that could be starters in the next few years. Patience is what Cashman says, but he didn’t have patience with Joba and Kennedy. When you have 3 or 4 HOF players in your line-up aging its hard to be patient.

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    • YanksFanSince78

      14 years ago

      Refresh my memory though, what came first, their demotion or their injuries that year?

      Reply
      • slider32

        14 years ago

        The point is that young pitcher don’t always start out well. Kennedy was very similar to Nova when he came up, now he’s pitching for arizona. Joba never really got a chance, but I still think he is a better reliever. It’s just tough on young pitchers if your goal is to win the world series. You almost need an A prospect like Price to be successful in that situation.

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        • YanksFanSince78

          14 years ago

          No, I’m not being funny. I’m asking you an honest question. I don’t remember. Did Cashman demote them and then they got injured in the minors or did the injuries occur while they were pitching in the majors? Not trying to argue, just can’t remember.

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          • slider32

            14 years ago

            As I remember Kennedy came up in 07 and pitched well at the end of the season. Then he was penciled in as a starter with Joba in 08. He went 0-4 with a high ERA around 8 and was sent down. After that he had the injury. Last year he had a 3.80 ERA with Arizona. Hindsight being 20/20 he would be a good #5 this year with Jackson in the oulfield. All I’m saying is don’t make the same mistake with these young pitchers.

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            • YanksFanSince78

              14 years ago

              I think you mistook me as being disagreeable w/ what you were saying, but I wasn’t. Either way, I would rather go with CC, AJ, Hughes, Nova and a rookie over Mitre. That rookie should be someone other than Betances or Banuelos. Noesi and Phelps have the control, IP and IMO pitchability to get mlb hitters out. Brackman has to make the 25 man soon because of his contract. I expect one of those 3 to be the #5 at some point this year.

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              • slider32

                14 years ago

                I agree!

                Reply
  24. Ricky

    14 years ago

    hahahahahahahahahahaha

    Reply
  25. Matty

    14 years ago

    Ok, then make your argument.

    Reply
  26. YanksFanSince78

    14 years ago

    I don’t want to sound like a cliche but this 2011 can really be a time for the team to show what they are about and to start earning the collective $200 mil they are getting paid. I think there are enough prideful vets on this team that can step up and have good years. Pressure can burstpipes or they can create diamonds. Which team do they want to be in 2011. 2011 can be a year where Ivan Nova and a yet unknown rookie get a chance to prove themselves. Who knows, maybe the loss of signing Lee and not having Pettitte will creat a chance for the kids to get a chance they may not have had before.

    In comparison to 2010’s performances from Vazquez and Mosley maybe Phelps, Noesi or someone else will put forth a 150 IP/4.50 ERA year and win 10-12 games w/ run support. I do know that Hughes needs to improve from 2010 and CC and AJ need to pitch up to their potential.

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  27. slider32

    14 years ago

    I agree, if the players that had a down year last year perform up to their career average the Yanks will be fine with Nova, and Noesi, Brackman, or Phelps pitching in the 5th spot. Add to that Montero coming up in June and peforming like he is projected the Yanks will be in the hunt. Thats all you can ask for!

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  28. YanksFanSince78

    14 years ago

    PS- I’ve always liked IPK and I thought he was rushed. I have some doubts though, if he would’ve pitched as well in the AL East though.But I think he will have a decent career.

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    • slider32

      14 years ago

      I agree, a 3.80 ERA in NL is about a 4.10 in the AL. Although the average ERA last year in the NL 4.02 and AL was 4.14.

      Reply
  29. SierraM363

    14 years ago

    Maybe they can ask Sergio Mitre to throw left handed.

    Reply
  30. Ricky

    14 years ago

    Should have grabbed Pavano while he was available.

    Reply
  31. Braves1976

    14 years ago

    Hey Yankees, call the Braves about Lowe, just make sure you pay the rest of his contract and throw in a prospect. 🙂

    Reply
  32. Braves1976

    14 years ago

    Hey Yankees, call the Braves about Lowe, just make sure you pay the rest of his contract and throw in a prospect. 🙂

    Reply
  33. $6101468

    14 years ago

    Don’t worry, NY, you still have Lee…what’s that? He signed with the Phillies?

    Reply
  34. TwinsVet

    14 years ago

    And with this, the offseason goes from “not good” to “very bad” for the Yankees…

    Reply
  35. Robert D

    14 years ago

    Orioles finish ahead of the yankees. Mark it down.

    Reply
    • rbeezy

      14 years ago

      Orioles will be the same team they were last year. Signing the corpse Derek Lee doesn’t make them better then the Yanks. Mark it down.

      Reply
    • RedSoxDynasty

      14 years ago

      You’re insane. I’m a Sox fan but no way the Yanks don’t win the wild card! I could see the O’s being a .500 club though!

      Reply
  36. jakec77

    14 years ago

    Good for him. In know, there will be those that disagree, but I can admire a guy who would rather spend some time with his family (although I am sure the looming trial had something to do with it as well).

    Assuming the Yankees want him, he’ll sign in early June, and be in the Yankee rotation a few weeks later.

    Makes some economic sense as well. For a guy like Pettite, his contract pays him for essentially five months (Apr-Sep), but he is expected to work seven (Feb-Sep, not counting post season). So, by signing in June, he gets 60% of his pay (3 out of five months) for doing less than half of his work (3 out of seven months). Plus, if the Yankees are desperate, maybe they give him a prorated $15 million in June instead of $12 million for the full season, and he ends up close to even.

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  37. NYBamBam

    14 years ago

    I wonder how many of the Yankees problems began with their hardball dealing with Jeter. I really thought that was a nasty and disrespectful negotiation and one that insulted NYC on top of trashing the only potential Hall of Famer in baseball who doesn’t have the shadow of steroids hanging over his career. I also thought baseball writers embarrassed themselves by campaigning to crush his contract position, too. That whole ‘Jeter sucks’ campaign stank. I will remember every writer who did that. I consider them corrupt reporters who took a bribe to deliver a hit. How many of them stood on their soapbox about steroids? Hypocrites.

    Here’s a question for those dishonest reporters: Did trashing Jeter put the chill on getting Cliff Lee to sign with them? Go ask Cliff lee if that affected his decision, if you are real reporters…..

    If I were a ballplayer getting wooed by the Yankees, I would look long and hard at how they treated Jeter. If they could trash the best Yankee captain since Lou Gerhig, and one of the 5 best shortstops of all time – after one bad season that was still better than most of his competition – imagine how they would treat a mercenary? Screwing Jeter was the beginning of the worst post-season this team has seen since the Yankees burned Reggie Jackson.

    Nobody goes to the game to see Cashman or Steinbrenner. But I would show up to see Jeter roll his wheelchair to the plate and strike out like my grandmother. I’d even bring the kids. Even at the extortion rates they charge at Yankee Stadium. Very class, Cashman. Not.

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  38. NYBamBam

    14 years ago

    I wonder how many of the Yankees problems began with their hardball dealing with Jeter. I really thought that was a nasty and disrespectful negotiation and one that insulted NYC on top of trashing the only potential Hall of Famer in baseball who doesn’t have the shadow of steroids hanging over his career. I also thought baseball writers embarrassed themselves by campaigning to crush his contract position, too. That whole ‘Jeter sucks’ campaign stank. I will remember every writer who did that. I consider them corrupt reporters who took a bribe to deliver a hit. How many of them stood on their soapbox about steroids? Hypocrites.

    Here’s a question for those dishonest reporters: Did trashing Jeter put the chill on getting Cliff Lee to sign with them? Go ask Cliff lee if that affected his decision, if you are real reporters…..

    If I were a ballplayer getting wooed by the Yankees, I would look long and hard at how they treated Jeter. If they could trash the best Yankee captain since Lou Gerhig, and one of the 5 best shortstops of all time – after one bad season that was still better than most of his competition – imagine how they would treat a mercenary? Screwing Jeter was the beginning of the worst post-season this team has seen since the Yankees burned Reggie Jackson.

    Nobody goes to the game to see Cashman or Steinbrenner. But I would show up to see Jeter roll his wheelchair to the plate and strike out like my grandmother. I’d even bring the kids. Even at the extortion rates they charge at Yankee Stadium. Very class, Cashman. Not.

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