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Rockies Out Of Michael Young Trade Talks

By Dan Mennella | February 8, 2011 at 11:03pm CDT

The Rockies are no longer among the potential trade partners to land the Rangers' Michael Young, tweets Troy Renck of the Denver Post.

A potential deal between the Rockies and Rangers was hampered not necessarily by money, blogs Renck, but by the Rangers' need to acquire a "bigger name player" than Eric Young Jr., whom they had targeted earlier this offseason. Further complicating matters was Vladimir Guerrero's recent agreement on a contract with the Orioles, Renck notes, leaving Texas less inclined to compromise on its financial or prospect demands in a Young swap without a suitable replacement to handle their DH duties (Twitter links). The Rangers' plan was, Renck notes, to spend the money they saved on Michael Young's offloaded contract on a DH type, but that option has dried up.

Potential suitors for Young seem to be dwindling, and one has to wonder whether a deal will get done as this situation grows increasingly tricky, as Renck tweets. It may simply come down to how hard the Rangers try to honor Young's request of a trade, tweets Buster Olney.

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  1. BlueCatuli

    14 years ago

    I never thought I’d be so interested in Michael Young. This thing is starting to become incredibly entertaining.

    Reply
  2. Hank Hill

    14 years ago

    Opens the door for the Dodgers to nab him

    Reply
    • Tyler G

      14 years ago

      And who will they give up? And how till they pay him?

      Reply
      • BlueSkyLA

        14 years ago

        With $48m left on his contract, they don’t give up anybody meaningful if they’re willing absorb any significant part of the salary. Every time the Dodgers signed a player this winter, somebody wondered “how did they do that?”

        Reply
        • bleedrockiepurple

          14 years ago

          The reason the Rockies/Rangers couldn’t get anything done was because the Rangers want a significant piece back if they were going to eat a large chunk of his salary, what makes you think the Dodgers could get something done without giving up a meaningful player, just read the post.

          Reply
          • BlueSkyLA

            14 years ago

            What size chunk is large? I guess we don’t know how much bucks the Rangers are willing to eat, which makes the rest of the debate kind of meaningless. If a team was prepared to take on $30m of the $48m, I think we know the Rangers can expect a bucket of balls in return. If the numbers are reversed, they can make trade demands. We simply don’t know the parameters of any deal. The other point I was making is that all winter long everyone assumed the Dodgers had no money to spend and everyone acted so surprised when they signed another player.

            Reply
            • bleedrockiepurple

              14 years ago

              The amount that the Rockies were expecting the Rangers to eat (courtesy Renck tweet) was upwards of 20 million but like you said it would differ each organization. I’d agree that the Dodgers have come up with some surprise cash and kudos to Frank McCourt for getting deals done and keeping them competitors in the West but if teams like the Rockies, who have some extra cash to play with cant get something done, I just dont see the Dodgers getting one done with financial constraints IF they dont give up something meaningful like you said which they’ll have to do if they expect the Rangers to eat same amount (roughly 20 mil).

              Reply
              • BlueSkyLA

                14 years ago

                Every team (except one) has financial constraints. For the most part, we as fans can only guess at how much any team has to spend until the payroll is set, then we know. The Rangers could send Young to LA along with $18m, unloading $30m in future obligations from their payroll, and push the financial impact to the Dodgers out a year or two, when they’ll start showing more cash flow from a new media deal. The Rangers could not expect an important player as compensation in a deal like this. I’m not saying I hope this will happen (too many questions about Young’s abilities), but the deal could be done for little outlay on the Dodgers’ side, cash or players.

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                • bleedrockiepurple

                  14 years ago

                  I understand what your saying but the Rangers simply arent will do that right now, they want something “important” in return. The Rockies were willing to do this (take MY and around 18/20 mil for a few prospects) but the Rangers wanted something significant in return and the Rocks were willing to do that, that is why the Rockies pulled out and said they’ll pass. Things would be very different if the asking price wasn’t so high and maybe things will change and the Rangers realize their asking for too much but in return and if this does happen then maybe the Dodgers make a play for him and your thinking then comes into to play but right now its not gonna happen simply because of their asking price.

                  Reply
                  • BlueSkyLA

                    14 years ago

                    I don’t disagree with you, but as this saga plays out we’ll see if Texas can get anything like what they hope to for him, in what appears to be a buyer’s market for Young.

                    Reply
        • sluggger222

          14 years ago

          Not how, WHY!!!!

          Reply
    • bleedDODGERblue

      14 years ago

      Only if it’s at a really low asking price.

      Reply
      • thekoshow

        14 years ago

        Obviously it’s not…

        Reply
  3. thekoshow

    14 years ago

    Son of a _______

    Reply
  4. Sixto_Lezcano

    14 years ago

    Michael Young is taking his talents to South Beach.

    Reply
  5. thekoshow

    14 years ago

    For the love of all that is holy do not go to the Dodgers.

    Reply
  6. CaseyBlakeDeWitt

    14 years ago

    Vamos doyers

    Reply
  7. flickadave

    14 years ago

    The Rangers obviously should RAISE their asking price more if the Rockies are out of the bidding… right? Isn’t that how things work?

    Reply
  8. Taylor

    14 years ago

    I still say the rangers keep him now that there isnt a good DH left on the market

    Reply
    • bleedDODGERblue

      14 years ago

      Napoli?

      Reply
      • Taylor

        14 years ago

        id rather young DH than napoli…

        Reply
        • bleedDODGERblue

          14 years ago

          Seems as though Young is requesting a trade and Napoli isn’t.

          Reply
          • Taylor

            14 years ago

            im just saying he will probably be a ranger because the rangers arent going to give him away and no one is going to pay top dollar for a defensively declining player with a fat salary..

            Reply
        • PushDown

          14 years ago

          Should’ve taught about that before even trading for Nap.

          Reply
  9. RepOak

    14 years ago

    Just get em outa the AL west!!

    Reply
    • Tyler G

      14 years ago

      Or keep him in a Ranger uniform!

      Reply
  10. East Coast Bias

    14 years ago

    I think all these Michael Young articles should end with a “…for now.”

    Reply
  11. Guest 7432

    14 years ago

    They need to just put him on waivers, and see if the Angels will claim him straight up. He’d be worth giving to a division rival, if it means saving $48M. And the Angels are reckless enough with there money to probably do it.

    Reply
    • Nick

      14 years ago

      Nobody is going to claim a 34 year old defensive liability at third base at $48M. The Rangers need to absorb a chunk of salary or this isn’t happening.

      Reply
      • AngelHater

        14 years ago

        Alex Rios says hi.

        Reply
        • start_wearing_purple

          14 years ago

          Except Rios is 29 and a decent fielder.

          Reply
        • Lunchbox45

          14 years ago

          Rios was 28 when he was picked up on waivers, for free.

          Reply
  12. bleedDODGERblue

    14 years ago

    The Rockies are just trying to lower the asking price.

    If not it should lower the price for the Dodger’s

    Reply
  13. Big_jays_fan

    14 years ago

    what about Jays trading for Micheal Young

    this way

    Bautista can move back to RF
    Young can either play 3B or 2B . Hill moving to 3B

    this way we solidify our Defense with removing jaun from RF and also giving bautista his desired position

    Reply
    • bleedDODGERblue

      14 years ago

      Toronto wasn’t on his list of 8 aproved teams. And it seems he wants to stay on the West coast looking at the cities he did aprove

      Reply
      • Taylor

        14 years ago

        yeah he grew up in Cali

        Reply
      • BlueSkyLA

        14 years ago

        I believe the Twins were on his approved trade list. Hey, maybe the Twins are planning to move to LA and join the Lakers. You heard it here first!

        Reply
        • Alex M

          14 years ago

          part of the Melo deal?

          Reply
        • Martin Wayne Guerrero

          14 years ago

          Ok?? So were Houston St. Louis and NY are they all moving to LA too?

          Reply
          • Guest 7419

            14 years ago

            The Lakers came from Minnesota. But thanks!

            Reply
      • sourbob

        14 years ago

        That may or may not be applicable though. He really wants out.

        On a related note, though, I can’t see Toronto digging their way out of Wells’ contract only to bury themselves again under Young’s.

        Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      14 years ago

      Huh? What?? Solidify defense with Michael Young??

      If thats the case we are better off playing EE at 3rd

      because EE/2Million >>>>>>>>>>>>Young/48 million

      Reply
  14. mkorpal

    14 years ago

    I’ve seen this before, and I will see it again.

    Reply
  15. T Morgan

    14 years ago

    This is way out there, and given the finacials of the situation probably an impossibility.. But, what if chipper turns out not healthy? Think the Braves would be interested? He’s RHB and can play just about anywhere on the infield. And as we saw with Omar infante the Braves can find time for a guy that plays a lot of positions.

    Reply
    • dodgerskingsfan

      14 years ago

      don’t see it happening. give em blake and prospects to TEX for young.

      Reply
    • Tyler G

      14 years ago

      Or he can stay with Texas. Where he belongs.

      Reply
      • Scott Littlefield

        14 years ago

        he doesnt blong in Tx.. they treated him awfull.. he needs to go were hes wanted.. TX is going to suck again anyway

        Reply
        • start_wearing_purple

          14 years ago

          Yeah, that World Series berth is a hallmark of a team that sucks.

          Reply
          • Scott Littlefield

            14 years ago

            Dude if Cliff Lee didnt go to the Rangers they wouldnt have made it out the 1st round.. if he would have went to the Yanks like he was supposed to they would have went 3 and out against the rays.. without Lee they got nothing

            Reply
            • start_wearing_purple

              14 years ago

              Except they would have made the playoffs without Cliff Lee, hardly means they got nothing. Sure if this team makes the playoffs they’re certainly going to need someone to step up big on the mound, but I’d be surprised if they’re not in playoff contention.

              Reply
              • Beau Buchholz

                14 years ago

                Typical Yankee arrogance. Thinks that anyone w/ out a 250+ mil payroll will be terrible, and when we wiped the floor with the Yankees last year, it was because of one player. When in reality that one player only pitched in 1 game that series.

                And whos to say that we would have lost in the first round? Sure Lee pitched well, but if he wasnt here, that dosnt mean we would have lost. We simply wont know, because our rotation was set up around him pitching games 1 and 5.

                The Rangers caught fire at the perfect time, and made it to the WS, get over it Yankee fans. Better luck in 6 years when some of your god awful contracts will be coming off the books.

                Reply
                • Beau Buchholz

                  14 years ago

                  And he shouldn’t have gone to NYY last July because we made the better offer. If you really wanted him, you would have out bid us. Plain and simple.

                  Reply
          • Chrisn313 2

            14 years ago

            Berth

            Reply
            • start_wearing_purple

              14 years ago

              thank you

              Reply
      • Martin Wayne Guerrero

        14 years ago

        Didnt Pudge “belong” in Texas?

        Reply
  16. Scott Littlefield

    14 years ago

    hes going to the yankees.. sit back and watch

    Reply
    • bleedrockiepurple

      14 years ago

      He’s got nowhere to play, no way it happens.

      Reply
      • Scott Littlefield

        14 years ago

        he backs everyone up inculding DH and OF.. he knows that hes not going to start and he still put them as one of the 8 teams he would want to go to and he still put the yankees down.. he knows whats going to happen

        Reply
        • bleedrockiepurple

          14 years ago

          He wants out of Texas because he feels there won’t be enough playing time and he wants to start….and clearly that wont happen in NY so I’d like to know why they are on his list when he would be in a same exact situation as he is in now, i just dont see it happening IMO.

          Reply
          • Scott Littlefield

            14 years ago

            He wants out of TX not because of playing time just because of the way it went down.. he felt like they screwed him over.. he knows that theres no way he would ever start at NY expect when jeter or arod are hurt or tired and he still put em down.. he wants to win.. hes a washed up starter at best.. hell be the best utility player in the bigs

            Reply
            • bleedrockiepurple

              14 years ago

              He has always wanted to play and be a starter but was willing to accept a reduced role before all this went down and he felt he was screwed over and now he wants out because of the way it was handled but wants to not only win but go somewhere he can play.

              Reply
              • Beau Buchholz

                14 years ago

                Lmao for someone who claims to be some sort of coach for some sort of really good Juco college you really make yourself sound stupid, man. “hes a washed up starter at best” (which is completely and utterly wrong. he may be over paid, but he is still a legitimate starter on a contender, contract aside.) and in the SAME post (line none the less) “he’ll be the best utility player in the bigs” …. seems a bit contradictory dosnt it?

                And yeah, the Yankees really need a 16 mil a year player strictly for the bench bench as a super utility guy. Really smart. And for the record, he listed those 8 teams in 2007 when he signed the extension. not like it was 2 weeks ago.

                Reply
                • Lunchbox45

                  14 years ago

                  Don’t talk to your coach like that

                  Reply
                • bleedrockiepurple

                  14 years ago

                  Like you said in an earlier post…”Typical Yankee arrogance” nuff said.

                  Reply
            • Martin Wayne Guerrero

              14 years ago

              If he wants to win so bad why would he LEAVE the team that JUST went to the WORLD SERIES??!? And those yankees could end up in 4th place in the east

              Reply
    • Glen 2

      14 years ago

      He goes to the Yanks, who flip him to the Angels for Kazmir.

      Reply
  17. Every_Month_is_Roctober

    14 years ago

    Look at it this way, if the Rangers traded to the Rockies and ate $20 Million of the contract, they would still be saving $28 Million over the next 3 years and getting decent players in return. Young would get to be an everyday player at his natural position (2B), The Rangers would get younger bench depth and save some money in the process. Keeping Young and not playing him doesn’t get them anything but a frustrated player and the most expensive part time DH in the game.

    Reply
  18. dgrfns

    14 years ago

    I would think the Rangers would have to pickup 75% of his salary to trade him. Even then I can’t imagine them getting much in return. Young can’t hit a lick away from Arlington and can’t field no matter where he is. As a Dodger fan I pray they don’t make a deal for him. I can see him hitting .270 with about 9Hr’s playing half his games in LA.

    Reply
  19. JTrea81

    14 years ago

    Glad to see the O’s grabbed Vlad before the Rangers had a chance to go after him again. I’m surprised though with the huge cash inflow that the Rangers have from FSN, that they couldn’t have just kept Young and signed Vlad and not dealt for Napoli at all.

    Reply
  20. Andrew

    14 years ago

    They will be back in talks in a week or so when the Rangers realize that their asking price is too high and that the Rockies are the only true suitor right now.

    Reply
  21. MrPresident

    14 years ago

    The Rangers are currently holding all of the cards and Michael has none. They don’t have to trade him just caused he feels disrespected and asked for a trade. So as a Ranger fan I would suggest that you keep Young… smoothe some feathers and do your best to keep MY away from Daniels. As time passes this stupid episode will pass. MY doesn’t have to respect or care about Daniels since that is someone he does not play with on a daily basis. Time to let this whole episode blow over without making any changes to the line-up.

    Reply
    • Martin Wayne Guerrero

      14 years ago

      Or he could pull an 06 Alfonso Soriano and refuse to come up to bat during spring training

      Reply
      • MrPresident

        14 years ago

        I always called Soriano “E4” when he was with the Rangers… lol what a waste of space. I don’t think MY has that in him to do that, although it might be funny.

        Reply
        • Martin Wayne Guerrero

          14 years ago

          That would be HILARIOUS but the problom is he wants MORE PA’s so what he might do is come to bat when some one else is up. Or try to run to an IF spot when hes slotted at DH

          Reply
  22. Moo

    14 years ago

    I just don’t get this, in the NL Vlad was useless as he can’t field well and there’s no DH, so if you’re trying to negotiate with an NL team and no AL teams are barking up your tree, why up the demand because a guy that they weren’t in on and never wanted is now off the board? Yes, Young has more value than Vlad as he can play the IF and Vlad can barely play a corner OF, but Vlad not being around doesn’t raise the value of Young any more or less.

    Rangers aren’t going to deal him, they’re going to force him into a super utility / part time DH role and maybe try to deal him next year.

    Reply
    • John W

      14 years ago

      Next year Young will have 10/5 rights and can veto any trade. It gets done now or the Rangers are hosed…. yet they act like they have leverage. Amazing!

      Reply
  23. Martin Wayne Guerrero

    14 years ago

    What a cry baby

    Reply
  24. sj0flr

    14 years ago

    This is high stakes poker. Washington had to make his comments about Young because as the manager he had to defend the team captain – his team expects that. Washington’s statements cannot alter the fact that Young will be traded. Young’s comments put TEX in an untenable position, and Daniels is now trying to throw elbows to get whatever leverage he can. COL is really the only other team in the hand and is unwilling to run up the pot against themselves. They’ll sit back and let the clock run and Daniels sweat. In the end, Young will be traded for the best offer (which might not be much). Probably to COL.

    Reply

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