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Arbitration Eligibles: Boston Red Sox

By Tim Dierkes | August 24, 2011 at 10:02am CDT

We looked at the Orioles yesterday; now it's time to discuss Red Sox players who will be eligible for arbitration after the season.

  • First time: Andrew Miller, Alfredo Aceves, Mike Aviles, Daniel Bard, Jed Lowrie, Franklin Morales
  • Second time: Jacoby Ellsbury, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Rich Hill
  • Third time: Matt Albers

Aceves and Bard seem likely to be arbitration eligible as Super Two players.  My non-tender candidates are Miller, Aviles, and Hill.  Miller projects to an arbitration salary around $1.7MM; I'm not sure how his club option compares to that.  Aviles hasn't done much with Boston, and I'm not sure whether they value him around $1.5MM.  Hill, who had Tommy John surgery in June, is probably someone the Sox could non-tender and then re-sign to a minor league deal.

Ellsbury is easily the team's biggest case.  His MVP-caliber campaign, coupled with his stolen base tally, could result in a salary over $6MM by our calculations.  That'd exceed even Hunter Pence's second-time raise won through a hearing last year.  The Boras Corporation probably won't be shy about trying to set a new precedent.  Most of the team's other arbitration eligibles project to make less than $2MM.

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  1. Coollet

    10 years ago

    BORAS!!!!! Wait until he has to deal with AA

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    • start_wearing_purple

      10 years ago

      I know AA has been good but unless he has blackmail photos I doubt Boras will treat him any differently.

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      • Coollet

        10 years ago

        I believe that would be an epic match of the ages, Lawyer that gets what he wants vs. The GM Ninja Assassin that never loses. Fight to the Death … and now FINISH HIM!

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  2. start_wearing_purple

    10 years ago

    While a long term deal with Ells is probably out of the picture I wouldn’t be surprised if Theo tries to just buy out his arb years, maybe even one FA year. 2 yr/$14M maybe?

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    • Tim Dierkes

      10 years ago

      The player can always override Boras, but that’d be a bit of a tough sell.  If he’s already looking at perhaps $6.1MM, a month away from that, locking down just a $2MM raise for 2012 doesn’t seem all that helpful.  Maybe a million or two more?  But then Theo probably doesn’t see a point.

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  3. PhilliesPhreak

    10 years ago

    im a sailor peg and i lost my legggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg!

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    • Kevin Moriarty

      10 years ago

      It’s a good song, but everyone in Boston hates it now.  And I’m sure the Murphys hate playing it too.

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  4. notsureifsrs

    10 years ago

    hey carl this is kinda embarrassing haha but uhhh we kind of goofed up and gave you jacoby’s money…heh…uhhh…yeah haha…sorry about that. but we’re gonna need that back

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  5. notsureifsrs

    10 years ago

    with jose iglesias hitting like a one-armed alex cora in AAA, i’m pretty sure at least aviles will be back – even at $1.5M. i think there’s a real chance scutaro’s $6M option gets exercised too unless jed lowrie suddenly remembers how baseball is played

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    • Kevin Moriarty

      10 years ago

      jed lowrie= poster child for male osteoporosis

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    • pscadogan

      10 years ago

      No way Scutaro’s option gets exercised. Jason Varitek has nearly as good stats as him this year and Varitek is their backup catcher.

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      • pedroia15

        9 years ago

        Scutaro batted .299 and his option will clearly be picked up.  He has average defense and great on-base skills too.  Clearly you don’t watch baseball

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  6. 0bsessions

    10 years ago

    This could get expensive.

    Thank god arbitration is by and large an idiotic process or we’d get taken over the coals for Bard. As it stands, not being able to use the word “saves” should save us a few million on him.

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    • notsureifsrs

      10 years ago

      if you’ll have a look at these statistics on leverage and defense-independent pitching, you’ll see that my client mr. bard has been at least as good as papelbon, maybe even better…

      “…I DON’T SEE ANY SAVES????? WHAT IS THE MEANING OF THIS??? I ONLY COUNT 3 WINS…”

      well with all due respect, you have to account fo–

      “DOES HE HAVE ANY RBI?????”

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      • 0bsessions

        10 years ago

        I would love to be a fly on the wall if it went to arbitration watching Epstein trying to swallow his usual philosophies to argue why Bard doesn’t deserve a significant raise because of a lack of counting stats. The dichotomy between Epstein trying to argue against Bard The best reliever we have) versus Aceves (Professional Win Vulture) would be even better.

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        • TapDancingTeddy

          10 years ago

          If the BoSox don’t like their professional win vulture, they can return him to the open market so that a certain Mr. Cashman can re-evaluate how much he likes him (or not).

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          • 0bsessions

            10 years ago

            No thanks. Despite the Win Vulture remark, I consider Aceves a valuable part of our bullpen. My point is simply that, were it to go to arbitration, Aceves could very well make more than Bard would, which is unfortunate.

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  7. touchmymonkey

    10 years ago

    Wonder what the Nats would give up for 2yrs of Ellsbury? He seems to be exactly what they are looking for

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    • notsureifsrs

      10 years ago

      that’s an interesting idea, but i think boston’s price would be prohibitive after this year: norris, cole, and clippard?

      pretty unusual to see a contender trade away a star for prospects, but i actually would not mind selling high on ellsbury

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      • Jim McGrath

        9 years ago

        I’ve seen a lot written about Michael Morse with the Nat’s–what about Morse and someone that is a 4 or 5 capable starter and a prospect for Ells?

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    • notsureifsrs

      10 years ago

      that’s an interesting idea, but i think boston’s price would be prohibitive after this year: norris, cole, and clippard?

      pretty unusual to see a contender trade away a star for prospects, but i actually would not mind selling high on ellsbury

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    • diehardmets

      10 years ago

      Something tells me the Sox would ask for Strasburg, and the Nats would wisely pass.

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  8. BoSoXaddict

    10 years ago

    I think/hope the Sox will look to sign Aceves to a 2 year deal this offseason for around 5 or 6 million. He’s been absolutely invaluable out of the pen this year. Rubber arm, competitor, and can take the ball in just about any situation.

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    • iCracked

      10 years ago

      yah the one major injury he has had to my knowledge was not even baseball related, it was a biking accident! haha

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      • Aaron S.

        10 years ago

        Aceves was rehabbing from a back injury that cut short his 2010 season when he fell off of his bike – flipped over the handle bars, to be specific – and broke his collarbone.

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    • pedroia15

      9 years ago

      they don’t need to give him an extension, they have him under arbitration control for 3 years.  He will probably make like 2 million this year at the most.

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  9. Aaron S.

    10 years ago

    How exactly is Matt Albers not a non-tender candidate?

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    • notsureifsrs

      10 years ago

      3.26 FIP, 3.25 SIERA, 9 K/9

      he doesn’t suck anymore

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    • pedroia15

      9 years ago

      He was absolutely dominant the first 4 months of the season and then his arm fell off because Tito had him pitch multiple innings so many times.  Offer him arbitration and the Sox will get lucky because he’ll probably only make 1M. 

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  10. drabidea

    10 years ago

    I am sure Theo is already talking internally about trying to lock up Salty and Jacoby long term.

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    • pedroia15

      9 years ago

      Salty isn’t getting any extension, he’ll just get the regular arbitration deals.  He’s an average catcher, which is all the Sox need, but there is no need to lock him up long-term.

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  11. Devil_Grizzly_Bear

    10 years ago

    All these people writing we and us on here are out of your minds honestly none of you have ever put on any type of athletic uniform if you think you are on the team.  You are all crazy!  That being said the money for crawford will have nothing to do with resigning Ellsbury.  Ellsbury will get paid they will offer him a huge deal down the road.  Watch the Jose Reyes signing to see what Ellsbury will get.

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  12. pedroia15

    9 years ago

    “Aviles hasn’t done much in Boston.”  Yeah, he only hit .317, lets dump him because he will cost 1.5M. 

    He’s a career .288 hitter and is only gonna be 31 next year.  They mine as well offer him arbitration and trade either him or Lowrie for value.

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