The latest on the Orioles:
- Baltimore has interest in Carlos Quentin and Gavin Floyd, but it's unclear if they match up with the White Sox, tweets Dan Connolly of the Baltimore Sun. The Sox would like young pitching and the O's don't want to give that up, Connolly adds. Brad Bergesen was one name floated by Baltimore in trade talks, tweets MLB.com's Scott Merkin.
- The Orioles are talking to the Rangers about re-acquiring Koji Uehara, according to Britt Ghiroli of MLB.com.
- A club official told Connolly that there's "no chance" the team wants Alfonso Soriano (Twitter link).
- The Orioles are telling other clubs that Adam Jones is off limits, tweets Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports.
- Troy Renck of the Denver Post hears that talks between the Orioles and Rockies about Huston Street have "no traction" (Twitter link).
- GM Dan Duquette says he has several offers out to free agent position players and pitchers, and adds that the club was in on Kevin Slowey before the Twins sent him to the Rockies, tweets Ghiroli.
- The O's have re-signed Brandon Erbe to a minor league contract, tweets Roch Kubatko of MASNSports.com.
why is ones off limits? shouldn’t the orioles be trying to get better?
Yes, but they should be keeping the players that they want to build around. Jones is a pretty nice player to build around.
Oh yea? You see his .319 OBP last year? I’ve got MASN and get the thrill of watching him swing at everything thrown towards the catcher day in and day out. Frustrating is what that is.
If he is so highly coveted then he needs to be traded for some pitching, simple as that.
If he re-signs. Right now he’s a good player to trade.
If a redicuolous package of prospects was offered they would listen, but I dont think they will get offers of what they think he is worth
Trading your best player doesn’t make you better.
they’re not talking about wieters
LOL we got him by trading our best player for him!
Trading proven guys for prospects is always a crapshoot. The guys we get might not ever turn into anything, which hurts the franchise in the long run.
I prefer to play it safe and keep the guaranteed good player. Plus, if you trade him now you essentially give up on being able to sign Fielder since why would he go to a team not committed to winning?
the orioles can commit to winning all they want, they won’t actually be doing it for years. and if they keep adam jones’ useless production just so they can obtain prince fielder’s useless production, it’ll be more like 10 years than 4 or 5
you need young talent – especially pitching – and you need a lot of it. if jones can bring some back, then you say goodbye to jones
They’re never going to be winning the division as long as Yankees and Red Sox are around, so I just want them to field as competitive a team as they can. They’ve been “rebuilding” for 15 years, and its never worked, so I applaud the direction they went last year. Trying to get to .500 is the best goal given their situation for the time being.
oh, my bad. if that’s your goal then you’re absolutely right
“Trading proven guys for prospects is always a crapshoot.”
But you maximize your odds with solid scouting.
Not if you are trading for major league ready prospects.
We traded . . . Bedard . . . for Jones +
Jones is a free agent in 2 years!
Your Fielder point makes no sense. The O’s aren’t going after Fielder, and never was, and losing Adam Jones wouldn’t change any odds of signing Fielder. Just because Duquette says he’s interested in Fielder doesn’t mean anything. He is interested in a lot of guys. A GM in his position would be stupid to say otherwise.
O’s are a losing team with or without Jones right now. Losing Jones has exactly 0 correlation to signing Fielder, and any argument to the opposite is really convoluted.
It was rumored that Koji wanted to come back to Baltimore, its a feel good story (we don’t get that too often these days).
Would love to have Koji back for a number of reasons. If they cannot resign AJ to a long term, then he may have to go for the right package. Even though I would hate it.
Glad we resigned Erbe always hoped he would pan out.
Hope we get Koji back, wonder what he’s worth after his awful post season?
Kinda glad we missed on Slowey.
Thank god the Alfonso rumor was false.
I still like Street but I probably shouldnt.
Whew! lots of O’s news… to bad nothing of consequence yet
You said it, its a mouthful of nothing thus far.
lets give them tommy hunter back, so his postseason is worth exactly chris davis
Huston Street? Why?! They’ve already got Kevin Gregg (The Akkountant) who can lock down the 9th!
Let me get this straight… The Duke was in on softball tossing kevin Slowey who was mediocre at best before he got hurt, yet is looking to move Jeremy Guthrie, who is the only kind of consistent pitcher this team has had for years, not to mention his stuff plays much better than that rubbish Slowey would ever at hitter friendly memorial stadium.
What was The Duke thinking???
The Rangers won’t just give Uehara away. Unless they get a really good player/prospect in return, then they are better off with Uehara in their bullpen.
The way I see it, Koji hasn’t even had enough time in Texas. I think he’ll be a key piece to this bullpen next season. So if anyone wants Koji, I’d take nothing less than a very good pitching prospect. If that’s too high a price, fine it’s not even a necessity to trade him.
The way I see it, Koji hasn’t even had enough time in Texas. I think he’ll be a key piece to this bullpen next season. So if anyone wants Koji, I’d take nothing less than a very good pitching prospect. If that’s too high a price, fine it’s not even a necessity to trade him.
They can have back chris davis
lets trade for floyd and quentin give up bergy and maybe matusz or tillman… it woud have guth floyd hunter arrieta and britton… not bad rotation…. quentin in lf with jones and kakis hardy ss with reynolds 1b and brob 2b maybe andino 3b or davis and wieters c just need a dh maybe scott or davis… then add some bullpen and u have a pretty darn good looking .500 team
….why would the white sox give up two above average players for bergesen and “maybe” someone else? I want a sip of your kool aid
they want young starting pitchers give em all three and maybe add reimold or scott…
Troy Renck of the Denver Post hears that talks between the Orioles and Rockies about Huston Street have “no traction”… I will tell you why. Dan Duquette didn’t go to Sears on “Black Friday” for the 4 AM doorbuster tire deal. Yeah, if you showed up you got an extra 100 bucks off the deal, even on snow tires. That’s why there’s no traction here Duquette’s car runs on bald tires. That’s a bad idea for Colorado this time of year.
Seriously though, no Oriole fan wants this deal.
We are not interested in Huston Street! However, we could break bread if Andrew Bailey’s name comes to be. Then we could talk turkey!
What about Quentin to Boston? Maybe along with Thoronton. Would take a decent deal, but who knows.
Both Quentin and Thornton both make a ton of sense for Boston, but Williams would begin (in all likelihood) by asking for both Middlebrooks and Ranaudo in return, which is a non starter.
The hope is that Ranaudo will be ready in another couple of years, like when ALL (ex Buch) of the RedSox SP contracts being expiring (counting options) beckett 2014, Lackey 2015, Lester 2014 and they will be needing to replace at least beckett and Lackey, if not Lackey sooner maybe resign Lester if possible.
Point is.. Other than Matt Barnes, who was just drafted and they are very high on, Ranaudo is the only other SP they can really put in the “sure thing” category, if there is such a thing for prospects and top SP ones at that and just do not see them moving another Casey kelly type SP prospect with 3/5 of the rotation set to have contracts expiring by 2014.
If Williams would be more interested in prospects at lower levels (not named Bogaerts) something along that line of a deal would be fabulous. People like Jacobs, Coyle, Vitek, Head.. But Williams would never go for that and Drake Britton having a terrible 2011 season hurt his value as well, not to mention Matt Price unfortunately having to have TJ surgery right after the 2010 draft, he could be another top SP if he shows the promise many think he has.
2012 should be a great year for prospects at AA.. bryce brentz especially. The Sox have people they wouldmove, they are just unfortunately at A-A+ atm…
Both Quentin and Thornton both make a ton of sense for Boston, but Williams would begin (in all likelihood) by asking for both Middlebrooks and Ranaudo in return, which is a non starter.
The hope is that Ranaudo will be ready in another couple of years, like when ALL (ex Buch) of the RedSox SP contracts being expiring (counting options) beckett 2014, Lackey 2015, Lester 2014 and they will be needing to replace at least beckett and Lackey, if not Lackey sooner maybe resign Lester if possible.
Point is.. Other than Matt Barnes, who was just drafted and they are very high on, Ranaudo is the only other SP they can really put in the “sure thing” category, if there is such a thing for prospects and top SP ones at that and just do not see them moving another Casey kelly type SP prospect with 3/5 of the rotation set to have contracts expiring by 2014.
If Williams would be more interested in prospects at lower levels (not named Bogaerts) something along that line of a deal would be fabulous. People like Jacobs, Coyle, Vitek, Head.. But Williams would never go for that and Drake Britton having a terrible 2011 season hurt his value as well, not to mention Matt Price unfortunately having to have TJ surgery right after the 2010 draft, he could be another top SP if he shows the promise many think he has.
2012 should be a great year for prospects at AA.. bryce brentz especially. The Sox have people they wouldmove, they are just unfortunately at A-A+ atm…
Bergy and Matusz for Floyd and Quentin. I also think the Orioles should look into Hanley who wants to leave Miami because they want him to move to 3B. How about trading Tillman and Hunter for him. We eat all of his contract. Then try to move Roberts for bullpen help and we eat most of his contract. Rotation 1: Guthrie 2: Floyd 3: Johnson 4: Arietta 5: Britton. Lineup 1: Ramirez SS 2: Hardy 2B 3: Markakis RF 4: Jones CF 5: Wieters C 6: Quentin DH 7: Reynolds 1B 8: Reimold LF 9: Davis 3B.
Unfortunately Hanley will not be that cheap. The Marlins will want a lot for him, because even though he is undisciplined, he still has a lot of talent.
Gotta think the sox would want Jim Johnson and or Matusz plus a bat like Reimold and a prospect for Floyd and Quentin. O’s would be crazy to sell this low this quick on Matusz unless they think his fastball is gone forever.
why would O’s want Hanley? Have Hardy and Machado and he doesn’t want to play 3B on a contender why would he do it here? Not to mention we don’t have the prospects to get him anyway.
why would O’s want Hanley? Have Hardy and Machado and he doesn’t want to play 3B on a contender why would he do it here? Not to mention we don’t have the prospects to get him anyway.
I think you trade Bergesen and Tillman for Floyd. While these guys may have more upside, at least you know you are going to get 30 games and around 200 IP out of Floyd. The orioles need consistency from their starting pitchers, even if that consistency is only average.