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Jorge Soler Declared A Free Agent

By Mike Axisa | June 2, 2012 at 11:52am CDT

11:52am: Ben Badler of Baseball America reports that Soler's agent, Bart Hernandez of the Praver Shapiro Sports Management group, still must produce a) an unblocking license from the Office of Foreign Asset Control, or b) two permanent residency documents from a new country before any contract can be finalized. 

10:39am: Jorge Soler has been declared a free agent and is now eligible to sign with any team, reports Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports (on Twitter). The 20-year-old Cuban outfielder will be subject to the spending restrictions imposed by the new collective bargaining agreement as of July 2nd, but he can sign for any amount prior to then.

The Indians, Red Sox, Phillies, Yankees, Marlins, Blue Jays, and Astros are said to have interest in Soler, and I'm sure many other clubs will get involved as well. Back in March we heard bogus reports that the Cubs had agreed to a contract with the outfielder. Two GMs speculated that the bidding would exceed five years and $15-20MM back in February.

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  1. LiveFastCyYoung

    13 years ago

    Get on the phone Dombrowski!

    Reply
    • Running Scared

      13 years ago

      woundnt that be nice. I dont see it happening though. One hes not ML ready and two he will cost a ton that DD wont want to spend. would be nice.

      Reply
      • LiveFastCyYoung

        13 years ago

        However, with not having a choice in the first round, we’ll have a bit more money to spend and will need to find young talent somewhere. Now with the slotting system, we won’t see steals like Castellanos, Porcello and such.

        Reply
        • Running Scared

          13 years ago

          well to that point I agree. it would be like getting an advanced 1 round talent but with a steep signing bonus. i would love to see it. Just wish he was a middle infielder. Lacking in that as you know.

          Reply
          • LiveFastCyYoung

            13 years ago

            What do you mean, lacking in middle infield? Cale Iorg is going to be HUGE!

            /sarcasm

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            • Running Scared

              13 years ago

              I can actually here DD now..” we have guys that we love and are going to be ML ready sooner than we project Soler to be and would have a hard time fitting him with what his agent is asking. We love his potential blah blah blah”..WS will sign him and he will kill us for the next ten years…..we do have middle infield guys at WM and such but none are ready. But if we needed a catcher well what do we have five? Some are going to be gone in July i can feel THAT coming as well as SP. I hope that DD does make a move for him and does something with Boesch as well because I am losing patience with his D and O at this point.  He has not been developed at all. Still hacking at balls way out of the strike zone. Remember when he first came up and had that flat swing through the zone and could drive the ball deep to the outfield? What happened to that guy?

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              • User 4245925809

                13 years ago

                 By DD.. Are you referring to Dan Duquette? The Duke always had a keen eye on the Caribean markets with Boston, now whether or not he has had time as of yet to get that in place with Baltimore is a good question, but lemme’ remind you THIS guy signed Hanley Ramirez, Anibel Sanchez, Rafael Betancourt..

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                • Running Scared

                  13 years ago

                  Nope Dave Dombrowski. Detroit. Whom Im hoping gives us something to cheer for in signing this stud outfielder. Duquette is a solid GM and has done some great work but I am only interested in the Dombrowski transactions. Baltimore is an interesting story this year though. Too bad they play in that division.

                  Reply
  2. jedicouncil

    13 years ago

    well no kidding, try to be underhanded and get away with it, come on!  lets throw the book at both sides as a warning to others

    Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

      What?

      Reply
    • LiveFastCyYoung

      13 years ago

      I think you are mistaking Soler with Beras.

      Reply
      • jedicouncil

        13 years ago

        correct you are, just practicing up for beras lol

        Reply
  3. Sully65

    13 years ago

    Ummmmm Mr. Cheerington ….. Get to work.

    Reply
    • Clay Kuhlemeier

      13 years ago

      No way he’s going to the team who hasn’t won a World Series in more than a century.

      Reply
  4. Cachhubguy

    13 years ago

    Git er done Jed and Theo.

    Reply
  5. donjuandemarco

    13 years ago

    He will be a Cub very soon.  Bank on it.

    Reply
  6. BlueJayMatt

    13 years ago

    Let’s Go Blue Jays!!!

    Reply
  7. soxfan123123

    13 years ago

    I hope my ChiSox go after him!

    Reply
    • alexw

      13 years ago

      Soler would probably replace Rios when his contract runs out. Viciedo, De Aza, and Soler would be an exciting outfield. 

      Reply
  8. NYBravosFan10

    13 years ago

    Yankees? Keep him in Triple-A until RF is vacated next year probably.

    Reply
    • Pat Rick

      13 years ago

      I seriously doubt he’ll even start in AAA.  This isn’t Cespedes, he’s very much a raw prospect still. 

      Reply
      • NYBravosFan10

        13 years ago

        oh ok then just the minors in general

        Reply
  9. notsureifsrs

    13 years ago

    it has begun

    Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      13 years ago

       dun dun dunnnnnn

      Reply
  10. User 4245925809

    13 years ago

    Yeah.. It’s ok to throw away 25m++ on an IFA, but a team is forced to use Selig’s useless slotting system for real talent in the draft?? These IFA’s are where he should have hit 1st.. Stop people like Cespedes from getting 36m and -0- track record.. More than some teams are allowed to spend over Selig’s goofy system and probably all 5 years of the new CBA.. THAT makes a lot of sense Selig.. 36m for someone playing in a league with less talent than some NCAA divisions…

    Reply
    • OrangeCards

      13 years ago

       They are putting limits on international spending.

      Reply
      • User 4245925809

        13 years ago

         I understand and knew that. it’s where they should have hit 1st.

        Low market teams have always been big spenders in the IFA area, even over large market teams. Maybe that is why Selig left it open longer even? He always was a small market owner at heart anyway.

        Reply
        • melonis_rex

          13 years ago

          Soler is probably going to be the last guy signed under the old benefit rules, hence the rush for him to declare FA.

          Caps for IFAs start this July. 

          Reply
        • David X

          13 years ago

          That was one area where a smart small-market team could outperform the big boys, and Selig just gutted it. These new rules are all about favoring the big-market teams.

          Reply
          • User 4245925809

            13 years ago

             That is why Pittsburgh spent 15m+ on the draft the last year and well over 10m+ the year before.. Right-O there.. These low market teams (other than tight wads like Houston who never spend) like the Fish, Oakland, KC that actually HAD decent farm systems in place and Baltimore, under Duquette are going to get hammered under the new rules.

            Boston was one of the few large market teams that took advantage of the draft.. Philly and the Yankees were not big spenders and the last few year LAD too broke to spend.

            Reply
            • David X

              13 years ago

              Pittsburgh’s spending is a VERY recent trend. Remember taking Bullington over Upton, and a cheap Tony Sanchez in the first round? Those weren’t all that long ago.

              Reply
              • User 4245925809

                13 years ago

                 Last few years was the point.. Like under a decent GM and not an inept one as they had been previously who ignored the farm system.

                Reply
          • mainesox

            13 years ago

            The new rules are all about favoring owners.  Limiting the amount of money you can spend on a player doesn’t help large-market teams at all (their advantage had always been the ability to spend money, and now they can’t spend any more than anyone else).  The new draft rules and new IFA rules hurt any-and-every team who was willing to spend on draft and IFA talent (everyone from the Yankees and Red Sox to the Rays and the Pirates); the only people helped are the teams who didn’t really spend on either because now they don’t have to to be competitive.

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            • User 4245925809

              13 years ago

               Oh how could have left out Friedman and his Rays magic there.. Not to mention the way teams like them and the Jays can no longer accumulate all those supplemental 1st rounders anymore..

              Cheers for fixing things with your post there Maine.. My haste to post so fast and repudiate that one had me leaving way too much out.. Cheers.

              Reply
            • Rabbitov

              13 years ago

              In a vacuum they hurt every team, but based on trends on spending in the past 5 years, they hurt what small market teams were trying to accomplish and its not even close. 

              Reply
              • mainesox

                13 years ago

                The top spenders in the draft in recent years have been the Pirate, Nationals, Red Sox, Rays, Orioles, Royals, and Jays.  The Pirates, Orioles, and Royals aren’t going to be hurt by this because they draft at the top of the draft so they are still going to get huge draft pools; the Red Sox, Nationals, Rays, and Jays will be hurt because they wont be drafting as high (assuming the Nationals and Jays keep winning), that’s one large market team not hurt by this (the Orioles, yes I’m serious – their market is considerably larger than the Red Sox’s), and two large market and a borderline large market team hurt (the Sox and Nats are both large market – again yes I’m serious – and the Jays are at the very top of the mid-market list).  And the list of teams who generally spend over the new IFA cap is made up mostly of mid-market teams; the only small market team on the list is the Pirates, and there are three large market teams on the list (Yankees, Rangers, Cubs).

                Reply
                • Bill Baxter

                  13 years ago

                  Orioles market is considerably larger than the Red Sox? LMAO.
                  MLB ranks Boston as the ninth biggest market. Baltimore 20th.

                  Reply
                  • mainesox

                    13 years ago

                    As far as I can tell MLB doesn’t have a ranking of market sizes, so I don’t know where you came up with that, but according to actual consolidated metropolitan area the Orioles market is 7.6M and the Red Sox’s is 5.8M.

                    Reply
                    • Bill Baxter

                      13 years ago

                      Red Sox market includes all of New England, not just the metropolitan area. The rankings came from the new CBA, as used for the new revenue sharing market disqualification program.

                      Reply
                • Rabbitov

                  13 years ago

                  There are some hidden variables in your analysis. The Nats giving out mega contracts to #1 picks for one (deservingly). Also the big market teams typically have more sandwich picks under the BROKEN elias compensation system.

                  Further the cap on spending is going to be on Draft and International talent. Overall though, my beef with this, which I really didn’t make clear is not that I am against a draft cap. In fact I like the idea, but I don’t like the idea alone. For me if you are going to put a cap on drafts there should have been a stronger effort to put a harder salary cap in place at the MLB level. A stronger luxury tax threshold is just too weak of an effort on that front and it ultimately encourages more aggressive spending at the MLB level across the board.

                  Reply
            • Slopeboy

              13 years ago

               Bingo!! you it hit square on. This is nothing more than a pre-emptive strike at the emerging talent pool. Look at the manner in which the game is changing, much of the new talent is now coming from overseas. The Japanese players, with a few exceptions are being posted, so they usually cost as much as a talented American prospect.
              Latin America is where the cheap talent has been emerging from and now with the signings of Chapman,Cespedes etc, that’s about to come to an end.
              Selig and MLB has realized that since there’s not much they can do on the US front to curtail signing costs, they’re attacking it where they still can. It’s not about small vs Big, it’s about the owners and the players, once again.

              Reply
    • mstrchef13

      13 years ago

      “These IFA’s are where he [Selig] should have hit 1st.”

      He did. Teams will be falling all over themselves backing up the truck for Soler because they will not be able to do that after July 1. You should go look it up.

      Reply
      • User 4245925809

        13 years ago

        ” You should go look it up.”

        Perhaps you should yourself.. Those drafted on June 4th.. Even if they sign that day are already subject to the penalty…

        Reply
        • mstrchef13

          13 years ago

          Since when were we talking about players who were drafted? I thought we were talking about international free agents. Don’t call me out when you aren’t talking about the same thing I am.

          Reply
  11. grabarkewitz

    13 years ago

    It would be grand if Kasten and the Dodgers made their first big splash on this kid.  With their lack of position prospects, Soler would be a nice building block.  

    Reply
  12. asovermann

    13 years ago

    This kid’s at least 2-3 years away. Such a raw talent, but there’s a ton of room for failure right now. I’d have him in Single-A or lower even given that’s about the equivalent to the Dominican League.

    Reply
    • Clayton Zoellner

      13 years ago

      If it takes Soler 3 years to reach the bigs, I may cut off my foot. The money alone will warrant him an opportunity WITHIN 2 years.

      Reply
      • asovermann

        13 years ago

        He’s definitely not Cespedes ready for the majors

        Reply
        • Clayton Zoellner

          13 years ago

          No question there, but Cespedes also started the year in the Majors. Not trying to disrespect you or anything, just the combination of his contract and his talent will get him in the league under 2 years. Especially if he gets the type of contract that was rumored originally. Trying to say the contract warrants opportunity for advancement moreso than a rush to get their monies worth of ML service time.

          Reply
        • melonis_rex

          13 years ago

          and he’s not going to get cespedes money (and no FA after 4 years clause), so agreed, he’ll get time in the minors.

          Reply
      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

        money doesnt always equate to being rushed.. the jays have paid hechavarria 10 mil to be a minor leaguer so far.

        you made an investment, last thing you want to do is not be patient with it 

        Reply
        • Clayton Zoellner

          13 years ago

          Right, but he’ll be afforded the opportunity for advancement quickly. it’s seen at even the lowest levels of the the minor league ranks, those in who the organizations have invested get opportunity for regular playing time and promotion not based on talent and performance alone. Trying to say the contract warrants opportunity for advancement moreso than a rush to get their monies worth of ML service time.

          Reply
      • imachainsaw

        13 years ago

        more money doesn’t magically speed up how long it takes a player to develop.

        Reply
    • Andrew Lujan

      13 years ago

      He’ll be rushed by any team who signs him. He will start at lowest high A. I bet AA

      Reply
  13. baseball52

    13 years ago

    And is now boarding his plane to O’Hare Airport.

    Reply
  14. oaklandfan22

    13 years ago

    Lets go A’s, do it Yoenis and Jorge in the outfield!

    Reply
    • Lunchbox45

      13 years ago

      I could see this 

      Reply
    • melonis_rex

      13 years ago

      yes please. 

      jorge/yoenis/josh in the OF would just be awesome.

      Reply
  15. Cachhubguy

    13 years ago

    He was just spotted in a Starbuck’s on the Northside of Chicago.

    Reply
  16. Guest 4556

    13 years ago

    It has begun but will be over soon. Newest Cub.

    Reply
  17. melonis_rex

    13 years ago

    I love all the “he’s going to be a Cub” posts on here. 

    Didn’t everyone predict that Cespedes was going to be playing in Miami or Chicago?

    Reply
    • Cachhubguy

      13 years ago

      No, I don’t think everyone predicted that Cespedes was going to be playing in Miami or Chicago.

      Reply
      • Runtime

        13 years ago

        It was pretty much everyone.

        Reply
        • Leonard Washington

          13 years ago

          Overwhelmingly Miami though.

          Reply
          • User 4245925809

            13 years ago

             I did.. Miami heavily courted him with the Spanish community and really pushed hard.. brought him in as well.

            I think Luria just is gunshy in that area still as too spending heavily in the IFA area.

            Reply
  18. Leftover_stew

    13 years ago

    So it begins.  Go get em Jed.

    Reply
  19. Runtime

    13 years ago

    I don’t know where he’s going to sign… but I don’t see him signing with the Jays.

    Reply
    • vilifyingforce

      13 years ago

       Any particular reason why?

      Reply
      • Runtime

        13 years ago

        Just a feeling.

        Reply
  20. Leonard Washington

    13 years ago

    Hope the Sox sign him. With the way the tax rules are now (Un-official salary cap), taking gambles on guys like Soler is becoming an increasingly good idea. 6/24M and a Skype with Big Papi.

    Reply
  21. Shane

    13 years ago

    The Phillies should be smart and sign Soler.  The Phils could sign him and trade Victorino so they don’t have to give him a large contract, have Dom Brown, Juan Pierre, or whoever replace him in the lineup for now, and let Soler take over for them in about 2 seasons or so.

    Reply
  22. AVinny GarSac

    13 years ago

    “The 20-year-old Cuban outfielder will be subject to the spending
    restrictions imposed by the new collective bargaining agreement as of
    July 2nd, but he can sign for any amount prior to then.”

    You do realize that TODAY is June 2, right? He was declared a FA today. This whole process was a sham to begin with, as the MLB offices have done nothing but hold him back in order to force him under the new (and ridiculous) signing cap.

    He may have gone for 5 years and $15-20M, but that was prior to this delay.

    Reply
    • Bill Baxter

      13 years ago

      there is one month left for him to sign before the new restrictions

      Reply
    • mainesox

      13 years ago

      Yes, today is June 2, which means he has a full month to sign with a team before the restrictions apply.  You also realize that he was waiting for the okay to work in the United States from the federal government right?  Do you really think the government cares at all about the CBA, or how much he gets paid, or when he gets signed, or who signs him, or anything at all about any of it?

      Reply
  23. Eric Foster

    13 years ago

    An outfield of Soler, Szczur and Jackson seems like an awfully good foundation for a rebuilding team.
    C’mon Jed and Theo.
    Get that done.

    Reply
    • David X

      13 years ago

      Unless Matt Szczur has been hiding some amazing hitting talent that is going to break out, he’s never going to get more than a cup of coffee in the bigs. I can’t remember the last time that such an unimpressive prospect was so eagerly awaited.

      Fewer than 100 hits in the major leagues for Matt Szczur, guaranteed.

      Reply
      • imachainsaw

        13 years ago

        well if you say so

        Reply
      • Eric Foster

        13 years ago

        No way. He’s still a work in progress.
        His age goes against him. but his plate discipline and mechanics have come along way.

        The power will be a little better than advertised. He makes enough consistent contact to be a leadoff hitter, and he’ll steal 40+ bases a year. He won’t be an all-star, but he will be one of the better leadoff hitters in the game.

        Reply
  24. Bobby

    13 years ago

    Jack Z, we need an OF that can hit!! Look what the A’s got with Yoenis!

    Reply
  25. coreif

    13 years ago

    Yankees?

    Reply
  26. Raton En La Casa

    13 years ago

    Let’s get this guy, Cubbies.

    Reply
  27. Jared Sullinger Serre

    13 years ago

    (cough)Indians

    Reply
  28. richardb21

    13 years ago

    If Jim Crane wants to show he’s committed to actually trying to get back to respectability he does what it takes to get this guy to Houston.

    Reply
    • John Burgess

      13 years ago

      It helps that you only have about $20 mil on the books for next year (and that’s if you don’t trade Wandy and Myers), and should have close to $70 mil to spend this off-season after adding the new tv deal.  This would be the equivalent of having 2 high 1st round picks this year…what better way to retool the farm system?

      Reply
  29. WrigleyTerror37

    13 years ago

     Cant Wait to see a Outfield of Soler, Jackson, and Sczcer!!!

    Reply
  30. ultimate913

    13 years ago

     Sign him and send him to Charleston, Cashman. A Soler-Williams-Austin OF would be drool-worthy…

    Reply
  31. dylanp5030

    13 years ago

    Please sign him (GM name of your team). An OF of (unproven prospect #1), (unproven prospect #2), and Soler would be (overly optimistic adjective)!

    Reply
    • JaysGLawrie

      13 years ago

      Please sign him AA. An OF of Anthony Gose, Jake Marisnick, and Soler would be outrageous!

      Reply
      • dylanp5030

        13 years ago

        A, would have been an A+ if you didn’t abbreviate.

        Reply
  32. elscorchot

    13 years ago

    Come on marlins.

    Reply
    • Bobby

      13 years ago

      Come on mariners.

      Reply
  33. Ray Hughes

    13 years ago

    The Red Sox need another 0F with a ton of power

    Reply
  34. sadf

    13 years ago

    Can Badler please stop reporting these meaningless formalities as if there’s any chance they won’t be met by Soler/his reps. We get it dude, you’re getting the really in depth scoops!

    This just in: Jorge Soler has to physically sign his contract in order for it to be valid!!11

    Reply
  35. Andrew Lujan

    13 years ago

    The Astros are the front runners for sure being that Luhnow is from latin america, they have the most money to spend, and Luhnow has been on this guy’s trail since he was working in St. Louis

    Reply

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