Looking to bolster their pitching staff for the stretch drive, the Angels have interest in both Matt Capps and Francisco Liriano according to Jon Paul Morosi of FOX Sports (on Twitter). The Twins have made both players available, though Morosi says there is an outside chance a deal for either happens.
The Halos have continued to look for bullpen help even after acquiring Ernesto Frieri from the Padres, and their rotation took a hit when Dan Haren was placed on the DL with a back issue. The trio of Ervin Santana (5.75 ERA), Jerome Williams (4.67 ERA), and Garrett Richards (4.21 ERA) has been shaky behind Jered Weaver and C.J. Wilson. Los Angeles is also said to have interest in Zack Greinke.
Capps, 28, has pitched to a 3.42 ERA with 14 saves while battling shoulder inflammation this season. He is owed approximately $2.3MM for the rest of the year and has a $6MM club option ($250K buyout) in his contract. The 28-year-old Liriano owns a 4.93 ERA in 15 starts and five relief appearances. He struck out 15 last night and has pitched to a 2.83 ERA in nine starts since returning to the rotation. Liriano will become a free agent after the season and is owed roughly $2.75MM the rest of the way.
Both of them are worthless. No one will give up a lot for Liriano becasue he is too inconsistent, and Capps was injured and is also a bit inconsistent. At best, they’ll be throw-ins in a Span/Willingham trade.
Angles have NO good prospects besides Trout! Who would they give up?
no good prospects required
Kind of hard to call Trout a prospect don’t you think? The kid is being thrown into MVP talks….
Trout’s not a prospect, dude.
And also, the system is admittedly bare, but “NO good prospects” is a bit of a stretch. There are some guys that hold value in the Angels’ system. But as notsureifsrs said, neither of those guys should require any really good prospects
Jean Segura, Kaleb Cowart, CJ Cron, Ariel Pena, Garrett Richards, Travis Witherspoon, Kole Calhoun and John Hellweg beg to differ. The Angels have a bottom third system, but undoubtedly they’ve got the prospects to make pretty much any move they want. It’s more or less a question of whether or not the team can sustain the loss of too many more prospects in the long term.
Just in the past 2 years they’ve graduated Mike Trout, Peter Bourjos, Mark Trumbo and Jordan Walden. They’ve also sent Alexi Amarista, Donn Roach, Pat Corbin and Tyler Skaggs away in trades.
Not exactly a stretch to think that despite being weak in depth right now, that in two to three years the Angels won’t again have one of the strongest minor league systems in the game like they did for most of the last decade.
How are they going to do that. The Angels didn’t pick until 114 in the 2012 draft or the third round. Under the new CBA, teams don’t collect sandwich picks or draft picks from other teams any longer, unless teams sign their free agents after a 12.5 offer sheet is issued and turned down. The only other way you replenish the farm is by trading all your big names, low contracts for elite prospects. Teams aren’t going to be throwing their elite prospects away on rentals or expiring contract players any longer, unless they are guaranteed the playoffs or a world series. It will take at least five years to get the prospects back, if the guys in A ball, or the rookie league work out. The days of trading top players at the deadline is now a thing of the past, because teams go into rebuild mode if they lose, which will be 29 teams every year. They are also stuck with signing journeymen, or retreads, since their own farms are depleted for years.
How would any trade ‘guarantee’ the World Series?
I know the padres wouldnt do it but i would love to capitalize on richards good stretch and trade him and street to the angels
Soooooooooo…you’re saying it’s unlikely the Twins will get Trout and Weaver back in the deal?!
#whatacrock
“#whatacrock” then add.com to it and send it to the Pohlard’s and demand they fix the team/spend some of the money on the franchise they are raking in from the new stadium and if that fails? At least on draft picks which they seem to be failing to do also…
They spent plenty on draft picks (6 mil on Buxton) and their payroll is still near 100 million. They cannot just spend money for the sake of spending money. That is a great way to ruin a franchise. It will take some time to undo the Bill Smith Era.
I gotcha. My point was last year, before the CBA kicked in and there was no limit on draft picks they only spent 5m and knowing they need to build the system, starting with pitching.
Admit am not very familiar with the depth the teams scouting and development.. How many scouts they have.. How many people they followed over the course of the season etc..
5.072m was actually more than 17 other teams (2k more than 2) so about average.
The Twins are one of the franchises who (IMO) need to build through the draft in the upcoming years and think may have missed the boat last year. They were allotted 12.3m this year, the most of any team.
The best thing the Twins can do is go back in time–I’m assuming the Pohlad’s have access to a DeLorean–and accept the Red Sox rumored offer of Jon Lester, Justin Masterson, Jed Lowrie, and Coco Crisp for Johan Santana.
It also wouldn’t hurt to just avoid the entire Delmon Young for Matt Garza/Bartlett/Etc. trade as well. Let’s have a rotation with Lester/Garza/Liriano/Baker and any one of the other young arms and see how we do.
Granted, if we’ve got this time machine, we can probably start over-drafting some of those late round guys who blossomed into starts like Matt Holliday (Rd. 7, 1998), Albert Pujols (Rd. 13, 1999), Cliff Lee (Rd. 4, 2000), James Shields (Rd. 16, 2000), Jose Bautista (Rd. 20, 2000), Ryan Howard (Rd.5, 2001), Kevin Youkilis (Rd. 8, 2001), Matt Kemp (Rd. 6, 2003), and Brian Wilson (Rd. 24, 2003).
…you know, what I think I’ve gone off on a tangent here.
Don’t think they offered up that many headliners in the package. i remember either Lester -or- Ells and Crisp plus Lowrie. Them sending Masterson as well would have been a bit much as he was on the fast track even then to a MLB career.
The Twins were all over wanting both Lester and Ells however, so no deal was going to happen.
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Whichever way the package was i would have benna lot better than the Mets sent them.. One always has to watch the hype from Mets prospects. i always dislike it when boston deals with them, they have done it 2x over the last 30 years for decent prospects (from them) and both times they were hyped up well and both times? nothings..
Why would we want the left handed version of Santana?
I want the left handed version of Santana. I hear Johan is pretty good.
if the angels trade for an arm.. it better be one of the following: greinke, dempster, garza, hamels