The Braves have acquired shortstop Paul Janish from the Reds in exchange for right-hander Todd Redmond, tweets Mark Bowman of MLB.com. Atlanta has confirmed the deal in a press release.
Janish, 29, has spent 2012 with Triple-A Louisville after playing 114 games for the Reds last season. The shortstop has never been much of a hitter but boasts a very strong glove. Janish owns a .221/.289/.302 slash line in 324 career games and could offer support at shortstop in the absence of Andrelton Simmons.
Redmond, 27, has never appeared in a big league game. The right-hander has been with Triple-A Gwinnett since 2009 and has a 3.78 ERA with 7.5 K/9 and 2.6 BB/9 in 97 starts.
A trade of two AAAA players (yawn)
Never heard of AAAA
If you sit in AAA long enough then your considered a AAAA. Or also Known as career minor leaguers for depth purposes or place holders till other prospects emerge.
Ah….clever. Thanks!
if you succeed in AAA but never produce in the bigs, you’re considered an AAAA*
janish has never actually had success in AAA, though, so i don’t think he’s technically in that category
…but Redmond definitely is. And according to one of the beat writers, the Braves were gonna lose him (out of options, I presume) this winter.
Minor-League free agent, and he isn’t AAAA because he hasn’t failed in the majors yet.
I believe Janish’s category is “bad player”
He’s a “defensive specialist.”
Yep, that’s what I said
Quint-A is when you are good enough to play in the majors, but can’t cut it in the AL East. 😉
Never heard of the KC Royals?
We don’t know if Todd Redmond is a AAAA player. The Braves have been to stupid to give him a chance at the ML level even though he has blown away Triple-A for the last few years.
Redmond never got a chance with the Braves. Why? I have no idea. He has put up great stats at Triple-A for the last 4 years.
probably has something to do with the fact that a major league rotation doesn’t have 8 slots in it.
God Wren, for a second there I thought you were actually gonna make an upgrade over Jack Wilson
why? Simmons will be back this season. There’s no reason to make a big splash and waste money with him coming back. Just needed a stop gap.
I didn’t think they’d go out and find someone actually worse than Jack Wilson, wow, that actually took some skill.
Anyone has to be an upgrade over Wilson’s .169/.189/.211 slash line.
My thought was at least Wilson can be counted on to play good defense and has never slashed a line as bad as he is now so chances are he’s in line for at least some improvement. Janish really offers nothing except technically being a shortstop.
You ever see Janish play shortstop? I don’t think he’ll be too much of a downgrade from Wilson defensively (if a downgrade at all)
You’re right, I think I’m being too negative here. I’ve seen a tiny bit of Janish play but nothing I can even really remember. There just hasn’t been much to be positive about as a Braves fan.
6 in a row, buddy
True, but I don’t like what I’m seeing out of the starters, and Hanson had some problems again today. It’s less the team and more the front office that seems kind of stubborn right now. I feel like they need to make a move for a quality starter and it feels like I’m going to be disappointed. I could easily be wrong though. If they get Jason Vargas though…
Wilson’s defense is half what it used to be. He offers nothing over Simmons, especially with him on the DL now for at least half the time Simmons will be out.
It is not like there are a ton of quality ss available.
I think they had defense in mind when they got this guy
the most boring trade in both reds and braves history
I don’t know, I slept like a baby the night I heard about the Juan Francisco/JJ Hoover deal.
For everyone saying it’s boring, or asking about an upgrade, upgrading wasn’t the point. We need a VERY short term ss, and we got one. We only need him for when Simmons and Wilson are both hurt. 4-6 weeks he’ll be gone. Or Wilson.
Upgrading wasn’t the point? Why did they make a trade then? Wilson wasn’t hurt when they started looking…
They made the trade bc the next SS in line is Pastornicky who clearly isn’t ready and that’s been proven. They need someone in the meantime.
So it is an upgrade, in some sense then, am I mistaken?
Yes it was an upgrade…but it didnt need to be an upgrade over Jack Wilson which I believe Janish actually is but thats niether here nor there. It needed to be an upgrade over Pastornicky which it clearly is.
It might not be an exciting trade but it should be an upgrade. Janish has a track record of good defense in recent years. Jack Wilson is past his prime.
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Wilson hasn’t posted a positive in 3 years. Janish actually looks like he could be an average to slighty below average shortstop.
It will be september by then, so expanded rosters. Don’t need to make a decision until offseason.
Janish should be kept as AAA depth, and Prado should be the backup SS when he isn’t doing something else next year.
Prado will be the starting 3B next year.
Well… Under most circumstances, I’d rather have Redmond. But the Braves really, really, really, need a SS for a few weeks, so I’ll keep my mouth shut.
If defense was the only consideration I prefer Brendan Ryan
Ryan probably would have cost more than redmond.
Paul Janish….can it get any more unexciting?
Even as a Braves fan, I find myself hating most other Braves fans. How hard is it to realize they just needed a temporary solution? So blame Wren; that’s the answer. Any other GM would have landed Jeter, Starlin Castro, Hanley Ramirez, or Alexei Ramirez while only giving up 2 career AA players and getting the other team to pay 80% of the incoming guy’s salary. 4 games out of 1st and 8 games over .500 with the 2nd worst pitching in the NL and people are still crying about Wren.
Yeah but since they’d been looking for someone before Wilson got hurt, the FO thinks Janish is an upgrade. And I only see one mention of Wren in this entire thread.
He might not be called out by name, but who do you think made the trade?? You and I are 2 of the 3 people here who are actually supporting the trade so far.
Uh, I don’t think he’s in support of the trade.
And we need a little more than just a stopgap- Like above poster said, they’ve needed to upgrade the bench all season. Wren yesterday said best case for Simmons is Sept 1, so Janish will need to start for at least 6-7 weeks.
Nobody’s expecting us to get an All-Star, but there are others out there more valuable than Janish (Ryan, Scutaro, Middlebrooks just to name a few).
lmao did you really just name Middlebrooks as a potential trade candidate???
Credibility: GONE.
And a few posts ago, he supported the trade, so I think he does. He’s just saying that people aren’t blasting Wren like I said they are. And the Braves’ offense has been fine. The pitching has been horrendous.
My bad… I meant Willie Bloomquist from the D-Backs. I get their names mixed up. The Sox obviously aren’t gonna trade the reason why they got rid of Youk… Haha
lol…..riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Regardless, the Braves gave up nothing to get Janish and could still make a much better trade before the deadline if they want to. They essentially got Janish for nothing because there are at least half a dozen pitchers who would get called up before Redmond.
And since they didnt give up anything for Janish they can still go out and get a Ryan, or a Scutaro before the deadline. It’ cool Y’all
Middlebrooks? Will? Boston’s Middlebrooks?
Middlebrooks??? You mean the guy BOS just traded Youk to CHW so he could have the job? BOS wouldn’t give him up anyway, plus he’s not a quality SS. Give me a break!
Scutaro is overpriced and Ryan would be a nice fit, but I’m not going to argue Ryan over Janish. That’s like trying to find the difference between beige and taupe.
Janish is an upgrade, from a sub-replacement to a replacement player.
I support the trade. Im a braves fan who isnt complaining. I can see reality. I too find myself hating most other Braves fans.
i agree 100%. Scutaro or Ryan wouldn’t have been worth the players they would have required. This is a nice, extremely cheap (we were gonna lose Redmond anyway) backup with defense in mind. Now Janish and Wilson can compete for the next month-and-a-half to see who is more capable of backing up Simmons when he returns. It’s nice to see someone with sense.
Not Paul Yawnish!
I thin Janish is a nice little player for the Braves in a bench role, replacing Wilson, who gets released and resigns with the Pirates as a bench option. Then the Bucs trade for Paul Maholm, bringing back two of the guys who deserved to be on a winner in Pittsburgh.
I love when people talk about how “boring” a post is on here. It’s a trade. On mlbTRADErumors dot com. What are they supposed to do, just NOT report it? xD
Way to go trade for someone that we don’t need. I will be a very unhappy fan if they go and trade Prado and now they trade for a crappy SS for a good Minor league Pitcher Could of kept and waited to see what happens tomorrow with Ben Sheets. If he does perform then this trade would be a bust
We didn’t need him? Who do you suggest play SS for us? Pastornicky can’t field in the most important position for fielders. If there was ever a trade that needed to happen it was for a defensive minded SS until Simmons comes back.
The Braves would have been better off with Brendan Ryan. Elite defender with a history of being able to hit .250, even if he hasn’t hit well this year. And he’s got National League experience, probably better suited for that league. I’m sure Seattle wanted more though than a guy that’s spent 4 years in a row at Triple-A without even a cup of big league coffee…
After last year’s collapse you’d think the Braves would do more to solidify one of the most important positions on the diamond.
Brendan Ryan would have costed more than than Todd Redmond. GM didnt want to give up more for 4 weeks of SS defense. Janish cant hit but can play the position defensively. Solid, sensable move and not worth complaining about. Not saying you are complaining but I have seen alot of the such
I think a big move is coming. I don’t see any reason to spend big on a SS right now. The less money the dedicate towards a stop-gap, the more they have to spend on someone else. There are bigger needs than a fill-in SS.
Done more? You mean like bring up Simmons, or to retain the defensive minded Jack Wilson. What more do you want then to do? Trade for Tulo?
No one expected both guys to go down with injury and force them to make a trade. There’s no reason to pay for a player like Ryan when you only need a guy for six-eight weeks.
Also if Simmons is out longer and Janish doesnt look good, then they still have the ammo to go and get another SS before the deadline.
Solid fill in Janish is better than Jack Wilson hopefully Simmons isnt out to long gave up a sp thats been in aaa for a few years thats at best a 5 in a rotation works for me.
He was behind Cosart and Reds get a Sarter and Braves have prent of them.
No idea what you were trying to say there Ace, but thanks for the commentary.
not a bad move, didnt cost us money, and redmond wasnt going anywhere and we would have had to release him anyway. Saved us money and we got a defensive guy. Good move.
I really don’t understand what all the fuss is about. When’s the last time Wren truly let us down? And don’t say Escobar for Gonzalez, that trade worked out a lot better than the infuriating Blue Jays fans insist it did.
So after reading this thread it appears most Braves fans would have preferred Ryan over Janish. That makes little to no sense as the cost for a guy like Ryan (with no real option in Seattle either at this point) as an injury rental would have been much higher. Janish for what he is, a sub to play 4-6 weeks to cover for 2 injuries, came very cheap for the Braves. This was a quality trade for Atlanta and a good 4-6 week stop gap.
You made the mistake of trying to reason with other Braves fans. I’ve tried for years to keep fellow fans level-headed. It’s not worth the frustration.
Surprising to see Janish traded today. I hope he makes the best of his
time in Atlanta and fills in nicely for Simmons. He always had a good
glove, strong arm and the ability to bunt well and play multiple
positions. If he can swing the bat a little bit he will be an asset to
the Braves for sure. It’s nice to add pitching depth on our end and
maybe Redmond will get a chance to show what he’s got later this season!
You guys are blowing me away right now. Are you serious about giving up more for a guy who will practically give us the same output as Janish, who we spent a AAAA free agent to be pitcher to obtain and has 2 years of control, has played multiple position, good ARM, and can play defense. We only need him for 6 weeks max and if he turns out to be worthy of keeping in the majors, then we basically got him for free over a guy who we may never see come up.
Janish may take over even when Wilson returns. Wilson has been a major disappointment during his time. Yes, he is good defensively at SS. He is terrible at 2B and his bat is like he swinging a tuna fish.