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Hamels, Phillies Continue Discussing Extension

By Ben Nicholson-Smith | July 10, 2012 at 10:09am CDT

Lines of communication between the Phillies and the agent for Cole Hamels are open and the negotiations are reaching a critical stage, Jim Salisbury at CSNPhilly.com reports. Hamels, a free agent after the 2012 season, is expected to become a trade chip if the Phillies don’t sign him long-term. 

Not much has changed since Spring Training, Salisbury reports. The Phillies appear to be comfortable paying Hamels close to $24MM per season (the same range as Cliff Lee), but the sides haven’t agreed on the length of the potential extension. Initially the Phillies wanted to complete a four-year deal, but it’s likely the team is now willing to offer more years. However, John Boggs, the agent for Hamels, could target a six or seven-year contract.

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  1. Phillies_Aces35

    13 years ago

    I could see them doing 6 (or 5 with an extremely easy vesting option) but no way they go 7 guaranteed years. 

    I know negotiation tactics and all that… but four years is an insult when you just gave a 32 year old pitcher a 5 year contract.

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    • User 4245925809

      13 years ago

      It’s that old adage.. “it’s just one more” you know. Somebody higher up in the Philly ownership has got to understand they can’t be giving out huge contracts at massive amounts forever at guys who are going to be on the far side of 30 when they expire.

      Not going to mention the ones normally do and feel for Philly in the Hamels case where he is a guy they should have thought of ahead IMO before at least one other.

      Reply
      • Patrick Abdalla

        13 years ago

        So you give guys on the younger side of 30 long term deals. That works well. Troy Tulowitzki anyone?

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      • fred

        13 years ago

         the difference is you are going to be getting 6 prime years not 2-3 years like Lee

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  2. nm344

    13 years ago

    I’ll be alright with 6.  Phillies are going to be swimming in cash when they get the new TV deal.

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    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      Exactly. They need guys like Valle and Brown to start living up to their potential. They can fill out the rotation with guys like JRod, May, and Pettibone by the end of next year. Biddle should be ready in two years or so (could see action in AA by the end of this year).

      Reply
  3. vivajackmurphy

    13 years ago

    Can someone explain to me why a team that seems to most definitely be on the downswing would invest that much money in a pitcher? 

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    • nm344

      13 years ago

      Because he’s only 28?  And the team has the biggest payroll in the league, so the ‘downswing’ is not going to be protracted.  

      Matter of fact, with everyone healthy they should be a contender again next season.

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      • Phillies_Aces35

        13 years ago

        *will be.

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      • Lunchbox45

        13 years ago

         offense still needs help.

        Utley is a big loss and there’s no guarantee on his health.

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        • nm344

          13 years ago

          Problem this year has been pitching.  Offense is pretty much on par with last season’s team.

          Reply
          • kcdaylight

            13 years ago

             last years offense stuck also…remember game 5 at home…1-0…Their offense has been in decline since 09…think about it

            Reply
            • Phillies_Aces35

              13 years ago

              The offense’s problem is their inability to drive in fundamental runs. New players aren’t going to fix the guys already here.

              Reply
      • WolandJR

        13 years ago

        “Should be a contender again next season”, what makes you think that?

        Howard, Utley and Rollins are old. Victorino is as good as gone. Their outfield isn’t good aside from Pence. Ruiz is very likely to regress. Their closer is paid $11 mill a year (great move for a sub .500 team), and their minor league system is ranked in the bottom tier.

        Additionally, the Nationals are on a 95 win pace this season and will likely be better next year with full seasons from Strasburg and Harper. The Braves will be healthy again, the Marlins have a better core than the Phillies, and the Mets… well, you never know what might happen with them.

        Phillies need to sell now and sell aggressively. They aren’t going anywhere in this division any time soon and another long term $25 mil/yr contract for a pitcher is not going to fill the major holes that the team has in LF, 2b, 3b, SS, or CF.

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        • nm344

          13 years ago

          You’re entitled to your opinion. I do not agree with most of your post.

          Reply
          • WolandJR

            13 years ago

            If we are going to be civil about things, I am going to like your response… though I was kind of hoping for a prolonged internets shouting match…

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        • jwsox

          13 years ago

          First off the marlins are bad. Over rated over hyped and managed by a maniac. That being said the phillies are talented when healthy. While I
          Do agree that it’s no safe bet that they will be 100% healthy again but 75% utley and Howard are still really good and I’m not even a phillies fan. Tue out field market is flooded this off season and the phillies practically print their own money. They will easily find replacement for Vic. As for their farm system. The white sox are proof that a bad farm system
          Means nothing. They are in 1 st place with 10 rookies on the roster.

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        • fred

          13 years ago

           VICTORINO IS NOT THAT GOOD THATS WHY. When you have a payroll like the Phils plus a new tv deal coming and the fact that they only have howard paps and Lee after 2014 and now that Halladay 2013 wont be vesting they need a pitcher to build the staff around. A world series MVP and top 3 in baseball  at the age of 27, you will be getting all his prime years under this contract would be a very good building block. you can build through the FA over the next year or so.

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    • Phillies_Aces35

      13 years ago

      You’re getting his age 28-34/35 seasons in an era where the young ace pitchers of this league are getting locked up to long term deals before they can hit free agency.

      They should be contenders next year and money continues to come off the books after 2014. Really, they’re only stuck with Howard, Lee, Papelbon, and Rollins.

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      • WolandJR

        13 years ago

        Howard + Lee + Papelbon + Rollins = $72 million

        Add another $25 mil in there for Cole and you have about $100 million tied up in 5 players, 2 of which are guaranteed to significantly under perform their contracts and 1 is a reliever.

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        • nm344

          13 years ago

          Who is guaranteed to under-perform their contact aside from Howard?   Rollins is on pace for a 4 WAR season this year and he and Lee will have just 1 year left on their contracts by that point.

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          • WolandJR

            13 years ago

            Rollins is on pace for 4 WAR? All I saw was an OPS of like 700 last time I saw his stat line… Well, color me surprised.

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            • jwsox

              13 years ago

              Because ops is the only stat that goes in the WAR

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              • Mike

                13 years ago

                OPS is the only stat that matters

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                • Phillies_Aces35

                  13 years ago

                  Defense is pretty important too bro.

                  Reply
        • Phillies_Aces35

          13 years ago

          and $89 million to spend on the rest of the roster.

          Reply
      • fred

        13 years ago

        its funny how people just bash this team when in reality they can build through FA this off season and the next. Utley 15 millions comes off next season and halladay 20 million. Pence 15 million ( I assuming that is what he will get in his last arb) that’s 50 million in one off-season. This is the reason why the Phillies need to sign Cole and build around him. There are only two lefties in baseball I would rather have than Cole, Kershaw and CC. This is such a no brainer this team can do things that small market teams cannot do because of the Fans going to the game and able to sustain the 180 million payroll. Plus with all of this winning their tv deal is up in 2014. I personally think you can move Howard, granted they will have to eat money but its possible.

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    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      Well Halladay’s contract is up after next year as well. So, isn’t it a smart move to sign a 28 year old to a long term deal. I’d give him 6 with a vesting option for 7 any day of the week. He’ll finish up at age 34 or 35. He’s not a gas guy so he will be very effective into his late 30’s with that change up and his location.

      Reply
    • fred

      13 years ago

       because even though they are old they could have 1 good run in them. plus they have a ton of money coming off the books over the 3 years. Just this year 30 million will be free. Hamels makes 15 million this year so only giving him a bump to 20 and structure the contract to eventually bump the it to 25 million. you can go get a 3rd basemen and CF and LF with that money.

      Reply
  4. gkstkddn93

    13 years ago

    Amaro is going crazy… but I support him if he is able to make Hamels stay.

    Reply
  5. corey23

    13 years ago

    ignore my avatar…. trade him for 1-2 blue chip pitching prospects and a few other players… why pay him 100+ mill when you can get a young guy who will be just as good.  look at the cahill trade, a’s got jared parker and he’s just as good as cahill and cost controlled for a lot longer

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    • dylanp5030

      13 years ago

      Who is it exactly that is going to be “Just as Good” as Hamels?

      Reply
      • fred

        13 years ago

         People are so disrespectful towards Cole. He is the 3rd best lefty in baseball right now and you will getting all his prime years with this extension i just dont get it.

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        • monkeydung

          13 years ago

          Kershaw & Sabbathia are numbers one and two?

          Reply
          • fred

            13 years ago

             Yes in that order

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    • dilbert719

      13 years ago

       I know, and just look at the haul the As got for Mark McGwi… oh, that’s right. TJ Mathews, Eric Ludwick, and Blake Stein. All busts.

      While I’m in favor of trading Hamels IF it’s guaranteed that Rube will not be permitted to offer Cole a deal he’d be willing to sign, as long as we can lock him up long term, we need to do that. This isn’t a team that can tear everything down quickly and rebuild; as mentioned above, we have too much money tied up long-term in players who are on the wrong side of 30. A young guy who MAY be just as good sounds great… but if he’s not, or if he won’t be in the next couple years, then he’ll be hitting his prime at just about the same time the Phils turn into the Astros, which helps not at all.

      Reply
    • fred

      13 years ago

       your not going to get that type of deal because he a FA after this year??? Cahill was still under contract for 3 years correct??

      Reply
  6. Michael Pralle Jr

    13 years ago

    this new tv deal, is this legit? and wouldnt this add money to the team for payroll? i dont live in philly now, so i miss out on a lot of team news like that? i heard about it a while back…but didnt really know the specifics?

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