The Yankees share the AL East lead with the Orioles after losing again to the Rays last night. It's been a rough week for the Yankees, who have lost five of six, but the team still has an 87.7% chance of making the postseason, according to Baseball Prospectus. Here’s the latest…
- The Yankees have made it clear that they intend to reduce payroll below the $189MM luxury tax threshold by 2014. But Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports wonders if Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner will change his mind if the team misses the postseason this year. Promising young pitchers such as Ivan Nova, Michael Pineda and Manny Banuelos dealt with injuries in 2012, which will make it harder for GM Brain Cashman to build an affordable rotation.
- Steinbrenner told Ken Davidoff of the New York Post that he's "frustrated" and still expects great things from his team. However, the jobs of Cashman and manager Joe Girardi aren't at stake, Davidoff reports. "No, not at all," Steinbrenner said.
- Joel Sherman of the New York Post looks beyond the reasons often offered for the Yankees’ recent struggles — injuries and a lack of timely hitting — and suggests the team has an offensive attack that’s too one-dimensional and a rotation that surrenders too many home runs. New York’s starting pitchers have allowed 125 homers, more than any other MLB rotation.
“New York’s starting pitchers have allowed 125 homers”
Uh, that’s what happens when your team plays in a toy box!
Johnny Cueto wants to have a talk with you.
So does Cliff Lee!!.. Believe it or not there are 4 other ML parks that are more hiiter freindly than Yankee stadium.. Its not to say its not small but, Cinncy, Philly, coors and Mintue Maid have the deminsons of a minor league ball park… fans like HR, HR’s puts fans in the seat.. except in Huston that is…
injuries have decimated this team all year while i still believe they can secure a playoff spot its hard to believe this team wins it this year
The 2008 offseason spending spree delayed the need to rebuild for a few years but this team now has over 100mm tied up in immovable contracts, no quality players coming up in the farm and lackluster free agent classes for the next few seasons
They have quality coming up. Austin and flores are in AA now. Hopefully Banuelos can get healthy over the winter. They also have a few good more prospects in the minors. They have quality players, just nobody knocking on the door. Also Cano, Teix, Grandy have been struggling recently; but they are not the types of players you can replace.
They should be able to get healthy over the winter, just hard when they have had to depend on garcia, ibanez, jones, chavez so heavily.
It’s very nice of the Yankees to keep this season interesting for us Sox fans, just saying.
Yeah I’m going October 1st to see Yankees vs Red Sox, I’m hoping we can play spoiler.
That’s the dream! It’s kind of what happened in 2010, too (took home-field advantage away by bumping them down to the wild card)
And then the Yankees advanced to the ALCS where the division champion Rays got kicked out the first round. Yankees definitely wanted to open up against Minnesota lol
I miss the days when we played Minnesota in the playoffs..
The last time the Yankees beat a team in the ALDS not named the Twins was in 2001 against the A’s. 2003 was the last time the Red Sox defeated a team in the ALDS not named the Angels, and that team happened to be…..the A’s.
Oakland was actually boom or bust for Boston.. ’75 Boston zinged them 3-0 ALCS and in 88, 90 Oakland returned the favor.
I meant they lost home-field advantage against the Rangers. probably didn’t matter much, since the Yankees lost 2/3 games at home, but still, you never know.
Could happen. Although the last series of the year also has the Orioles against the Rays which is kind of good news for the Yankees.
Be careful! They may be just stringing you along. Looking to break your heart once more. ( Every Sox fan knows they can’t be trusted)
” Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports wonders if Yankees managing general partner Hal Steinbrenner will change his mind if the team misses the postseason this year.”
HAHA. What a question.. As long as a Steinbrenner owns the team.. Cap be gone.. They miss and austerity is vamoosh..
I just don’t understand why people are calling this a collapse. For one thing, the season is far from over, and it doesn’t make a difference if you win your division by 10 games or win it by 1 game. Look what happened to the 2007 Red Sox. They had a 14 game division lead over the Yanekes in July, held on to win the division by 2 games I think. And they ended up winning the WS
I am in no way predicting that’s what will happen with the Yankees this year, but I think we should wait to see how the season ends before we call the team a collapse.
And it’s crazy how all the talk is about the Yankees collapsing yet there is little to no talk about the Orioles.
Agree with you to a point. Fans are piling on here and ripping them already, like kicking a corpse. I have noticed a few older members who are fans for the NYY back on the site show up around 2 months ago that had disappeared for a LONG time and were kicking on Boston, some still are MB923.. It’s just how some are around this place and a few others.
Epic collapses can/do happen.. fact of life. boston held a 10 game lead over the NYY in ’78, lost in on a cheap shot by bucky dent in ’78, then last year had the best record in the league at the start of September, only to lose.
As for no talk of the orioles? It’s the overall talent and payroll involved is my 2c.. Nobody expected Duquette to be able to pull that motley crue together so soon with what he has been able to find, by hook or crook and many are still either in denial or figure they will fold anyway.
Make no mistake though.. Duquette is a genius and that team is in it for the haul and has arisen from the ashes.. Cashman is in for a fight.
@johnsilver:disqus
One of the reasons some are calling this a collapse is because many people don’t recognize a pennant race when they see one. Most fans have become accustomed to the single WC and having races decided in early Sept. Previously, it’s been the division winners and the WC and the seedings were pretty much set.
Yankees fans that have grown up in this current era, where NY was pretty much assured a spot in the play-offs with little competition, don’t know what is happening. Somehow their ‘Yankees Universe’ is out of kilter, ‘”What?, we’re not sure if we’re gonna make the play-offs?” “What happened?”
Trust me, I would prefer to be where we were last month, but this is fun to see and will be more exciting down the road for all fans.
Will go with you there on the not assured of a PO spot, even playing .500 ball to some extent for both Boston and the NYY.. We both were fans when.. Well you were of the NYY when CBS owned the NYY and I was before ’67 when they were well below .500 and in those days.. Both teams struggled to play competitive ball period and the 2 teams actually made trades between each other.
It is good (in a way) for every generation to see a epic struggle for a team that they think has some kind of self imposed right to the PO, or for it’s fans to learn a lesson. NY kind of got one in ’04, Boston in ’78 and again last year for the fans.. Kinds of sends them back to reality, or hope it does that no team has a divine right to win, regardless of what anyone says.
“I just don’t understand why people are calling this a collapse”
it sells
Cashman is a sharp guy, but referring to him as “Brain”, is a little much IMO. 😛
Enough with the injuries. Yes, they have hurt us, but it’s not an excuse. What is wrong is that we had ZERO prospects to call up and replace our aging veterans. And Cashman overvalued many of the players. CC is a workhorse but not a true ace, A-Rod is not a middle of the lineup guy by any stretch anymore, Tex and Grandy are low average hitters who go into prolonged slumps.. And why the hell should Cashman and Girardi’s jobs be safe???! And how the heck does Kevin Long still have a job. He’s done an awful job and has to take some of the blame.
Why is CC not a true ace?
I bet most teams would love to have him as their ace.
Because if sabathia played for their favorite team he would be, but since he doesn’t? he’s not.. Simple logic some fans use around here that never makes any sense.
CC is not a guy, anymore, that can shut teams down. And when he goes head-to-head with other quality starters, Verlander, Lester, James Shields, etc.. He comes up a bit short, just about every time. Look at his record against other team’s aces. It’s not good. He’s solid. He gives you 7 innings, 3-4 runs. And on good teams that means a lot. Don’t get me wrong. He’s a very good pitcher. But he doesn’t come to the park with no-hit stuff and he’s a bit overvalued.
You think Lester is better then Sabathia?
CC has dealth with some lingering injuries this year. He hasn’t quite been himself, but he is still a pretty good pitcher. 3.42 era is under 3 runs per 7.
Amazing what the evaporation of a ten game lead does to some people. Ask anyone other than a panic stricken Yankees fan or a hater about CC and the answer is he’s an ace. No if’s and’s or but’s.
No question the other guys are quality, but for all their abilities and current achievements, they’re all looking up at first place, from behind in their respective divisions.
Love me some Shields and Lester at their bests, but neither have at any point been better than CC. CC is awesome.
How many pitchers in baseball come to the park with “no hit” stuff on a regular basis? I mean, other than Felix, Verlander, Lincecum (before 2012) and maybe Matt Cain, who do you really think has a chance to pitch a no-hitter?
a) Please separate what’s your opinion vs what is fact. Unless you want to take the time to scroll thru pitcher vs pitcher results then you can’s just say things like that.
b) Any FA pitcher is bound to be overpaid (duh).
c) His numbers since becoming a Yankee are as such:
5th in WAR
13th in FIP
16th in ERA
3rd in IP
Based off of that, a guy who is top 15 in just about all the important stats = an ace.
I’m sorry. I just disagree about CC’s value. It comes down to this. In any playoff series, do I think the Yankees have an edge with CC pitching first and twice in that series. The answer is No. Do I think CC can hold his own and keep us in a game. Heck yeah. CC v David Price. Price will outpitch him. CC v Verlander. No question Verlander get the better of him. CC v Weaver. Weaver. CC vs. Matt Harrison. Toss up.
there isn’t even any room for discussion about whether or not sabathia is an ace. he is. the end. there is no available evidence to the contrary
The Grass Is Always Greener Syndrome.
CC Sabathia…what? He who has been unarguably one of the very best lefties in the game for years now and in a perceived down year, is leading the AL in K:BB ratio isn’t a true ace? Who is a true ace to you?
I can’t stand these types of Yankee fan comments. They have misplaced blame and vehement fervor toward anyone involved with a Yankee team that hasn’t already won the World Series. Ugh.
Maybe the Yankees should fire Girardi and hire Valentine. 😉
Why would the Yankess give 100M to Swisher instead of Hamilton or Bourn?