The Yankees have checked in on White Sox left-hander John Danks, but talks are still in the early stages, reports Jon Heyman of CBS Sports. Chris Cotillo of MLB Daily Dish hears that the market for Danks has begun to pick up over the past three days. Nothing appears close at this time, though Heyman notes that the Sox are looking for prospects, so Danks likely would require more than just salary relief to acquire.
The 29-year-old Danks averaged 195 innings for the ChiSox from 2008-11, but a shoulder injury required surgery in 2012 and limited him to just 192 innings combined over 2012-13. He’s been healthy all year in 2014, and while his fastball velocity is down to an average of 88.2 mph (per Fangraphs), he’s been reasonably effective.
Danks’ ERA spiked after a seven-run hiccup in his most recent start, but he had been a roll prior to that, posting a 2.69 ERA with a 42-to-20 K/BB ratio over his past 67 innings (10 starts). Overall, Danks has a 4.35 ERA with 6.3 K/9, 3.3 BB/9 and a 40.1 percent ground-ball rate in 124 innings this season.
While Danks has a fairly sizable chunk of money owed to him, that shouldn’t be a huge issue for the Yankees. Danks is due $5.4MM through season’s end and $14.25MM in both 2015 and 2016, making for a total commitment of roughly $33.9MM.
Yes take him Yanks please, Sox need to get out of that contract.
This contract isn’t an albatross…We also lack pitching depth in the higher levels of the farm system, so this isn’t a guy you just dump like he is a nothing
$14.75MM for next 2.5 years on a pitcher with an era over 4.30 last 4 years. That is a salary dump.
Wow, how the effectiveness of pitching has changed. Not even a decade ago, getting around a 4.30 era pitcher worth that much would attract to many ball clubs. Now however that we are out of the steroid era and into a new era revolving around pitching, many would rather see what their minor league options could do for less money.
I can understand that there’s not many options for the Yankees, but Danks isn’t much of an upgrade of what they got now. This is is one of the few instances where the years of control is a bad thing. If he was on a rental like McCarthy I wouldn’t be opposed, but he’s under contract till after 2016, has a bad injury history, has been below average to average at best, and is owed a lot of money. Wouldn’t want him, even if it was just for money and no players are included.
Danks and cash relief for Cervelli
God no
Danks AND cash for a 28 year old catcher with an OPS under .700? Ya no
No thank you. I’ll take door #2.
It’s like the Yankees are actively trying to get worse and more expensive as of late.
I dont hate the Headley move because maybe a change of scenery could do him good, has offensive upside (2012) but please stay away from this bum Danks. He hasnt been efficient in quite awhile
I dont hate the Headley move because maybe a change of scenery could do
him good, has offensive upside (2012) but please stay away from this scrub
Danks. He hasnt been efficient in quite awhile
You haven’t been watching. Danks has been quite dependable this season.
Why are people using the word “scrub” to describe a “poor “player that still provides value?
I hate that the yankees are able to trade scrubs to these teams just because they are able to take on so much salary.
Fault of that team. Not the Yankees.
its the benefit of the yankees not the fault of that team.
So the Yankees should just pocket the extra money? Would you rather see teams not spend at all?
Also, it benefits the other team because they get salary relief. It’s the fault of that team when they can’t afford the salary.
yes i would like to see the yankees have to trade away young cheap controlable talent to acquire vets just like the rest of the league.
Yeah they’ve never done that before!!!
So it’s the Yankees fault if another team gives out a bad contract? Ooooo k……..
Tell me more
Unwise for the Yankees, at pretty much any price.
I don’t believe you
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
$14 million a year? He must have had a pretty good agent to get that contract. Hope Yanks stay away unless Sox eat at least half of rest of salary.
I wouldn’t take him at 7m a year. It means a roster spot taken up for next few years, where he will definitely not be in the rotation. Sunk cost.
Save your money and go for Hanley or Scherzer/Lester in the off season.
How about Beltran and Cervelli for Danks and Dunn?
Why would the White Sox want Beltran? Dunn’s contract is up after the season, they don’t need to get rid of him.
They don’t just NYY fans dreaming of getting out from under that por contract.
fan* he always has bad proposals
I still enjoy questioning them.
How about A-Rod for Jose Abreu + 120M? That seems as likely as the White Sox wanting Beltran.
I’d rather have Murphy than Cervelli. We could throw in Beckham, and you can get rid of whatever reliever you want to, to match his $$. Whoever you choose couldn’t be worse than the stains we have in our pen right now.
How about no? Beltran doesn’t fit the Sox’ future agenda at all and I’d rather see what Nieto could do as a full-time starter before trading for a mediocre 28-year-old catcher – we’ve already got one of those.
Taking Danks would be a huge mistake for Yankees. Danks throws his change up more than any other pitch. Shoulder injury = reduced velocity. He has a ridiculous contract. When the White Sox are trading pitchers, buyer beware. Look at the history.
Peavy was good, he wasn’t traded but Buerhle has been good moving on from the sox. Gio never pitched in the bigs for the chisox but still. More bad than good, I agree but it hasn’t been a completely bad idea. This coming from a Phillies fan that had to endure (does that count since he oly pitched like 5 games) Garcia
Buerhle was a free agent. You know about Garcia. Ask Toronto how they feel about Sergio Santos. Most famous was Mike Sirotka. Check it out. Loaiza also comes to mind.
Well I did preface by saying Buerhle wasn’t traded and did mention Garcia, but peavy and gio still stand.
But like I said, I agree the bad outweigh the good, however, it doesn’t mean never do it. Good pitchers have left Chicago and been good elsewhere
Just because the Yanks can stomach Danks doesn’t mean they should. Mediocrity will not get them a World Series and a bloated payroll won’t put fans in the seats.
Jeter will pack Yankee stadium this year regardless of their record. I hate to say it but if the offense can turn it around NYY has shot at the division this year. The AL East hasn’t been this weak in years.
I’ve been to a couple games this year and it’s not looking all that packed.
You’re right that they could get the division, but this team is not a WS contender. Danks won’t change that.
Agreed no way the get past the A’s, Tigers and (home town bias) Angels with or without Danks.
I wouldn’t say they can’t get past a team. Anything can happen in any game in any series, but there is no doubt who the favorites would be. Underdogs win games/series too.
When was the last time we could call the Yankees as being “underdogs” other than maybe last season?
Either 2008 or the early 90’s
I think that it is comical that Yankee fans are worried about the Yankees saving money
It sort of goes beyond that. Another problem with bad contracts is that teams are reluctant to release said player i.e. Dan Uggla. Danks is obviously nowhere near Uggla, but he is a ho hum player that New York would be reluctant to upgrade upon should they acquire his services. Subtraction by addition.
It’s not about saving money. It’s about getting their money’s worth.
Well just saying for money’s worth purposes.. Johnny Danks with the way he’s been pitching last 2 months (outside the start on sunday) would be the Yankees ace right now. The one question is would Rick Hahn like the Yankees offer
Buenelos and Sanchez for Johnny Danks.
not gonna happen
I think the Sox would run to the bank with that one, but some heads would roll in the Bronx.
Would this be a good trade for the yankees to go after john danks
The trade, imo, doesn’t make sense for either team. Yanks are going nowhere this year, and should be able to buy somebody better in the off season without giving up any talent. ChiSox are wanting to contend next year, but are low on rotation arms already, and don’t seem poised to spend free agent $$$ just yet. Plus, Yanks have no rotation candidates worth trading for. But, Danks IS at least average when healthy, and $14M is about the normal rate for such, especially a lefty. Yet, even given all the reasons not to, I would love to see it happen – the heart wants what the heart wants.
As a fellow sox fan, we both know the white sox will not make a play off run this year. if they can take the salary relief and get something to strengthen the bullpen or give us most catching options it would work best for the off season when they have almost 30 mil coming off the books.
I could see the catcher, provided it is someone with a solid shot to be our starter for a number of years. But it’s not worth it for something as sporadic as bullpen help. That’s what Beckham and De Aza are for. Danks should at least fetch his replacement now 22 in AA somewhere gearing up for 2016/2017, or a good role player who can contribute now. Regarding the $$ coming off the books, that has you in a better position to pay Danks, unless you plan on finding an F.A. replacement this winter.
To be honest, they could just trade him for scraps like Alex rios and that would be ok. Doesn’t deserve 14 mil to be mediocre. I doubt it’s true, but rumor has it the sox will show interest in James shields this off season. Which will be perfect since he’s a righty. And eventually rodon rotation spot isn’t blocked next year, if he’s up.
Yes, finally! trade danks. as a sox fan, it would be perfect to clear up the congestion of lefties in the rotation and get the most expensive contract off the books. a good couple bullpen pieces or catching prospect could make this work.
Not saying the Yankees should do this because I don’t think they are contenders for a WS ring this year. But without question Danks is an upgrade to their rotation. With Tanaka gone he’d be there #1/1A along with Koruda. I can tell you one thing, Danks pitches well in big games.
I’d rather hang on to Danks unless Hahn can work his magic again. A rotation of Sale, Quintana, Noesi, Carroll and Rienzo? *shudder* that’d probably be the most top-heavy rotation in baseball.
Fun fact: Trading Danks and Dunn would put the ChiSox in the bottom 3 in terms of payroll.