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Joe Maddon Opts Out Of Contract With Rays

By Jeff Todd | October 24, 2014 at 11:27am CDT

12:29pm: Maddon’s agent, Alan Nero, tells Topkin (Twitter link) that he expects Maddon will manage a team in 2015. Friedman tells Dylan Hernandez of the Los Angeles Times (via Twitter) that his new team, the Dodgers, will not be among the suitors regardless of Maddon’s newfound availability.

On Tampa’s end, team president Matt Silverman says that the team will pursue a full search for a replacement, considering internal and external candidates, per Topkin (via Twitter).

11:27am: Rays manager Joe Maddon has opted out of his contract with the Rays and will be leaving the team, Buster Olney of ESPN.com reports on Twitter. The move comes as a major surprise, as Maddon had said recently that he expected to remain in Tampa.

Maddon represents the second key departure to hit the Rays in recent weeks, as the team lost long-time GM Andrew Friedman to the Dodgers. Indeed, the opt-out clause vested with Friedman’s departure, Jon Heyman of CBSSports.com tweets.

Speculation immediately began that Maddon could follow Friedman to Los Angeles, though all involved shot that down quickly. Indeed, the Dodgers have stated publicly that they intend to keep skipper Don Mattingly in place heading into 2015. The only open managerial seat at present is the Twins’, though Minnesota appears to be well down the line in its search.

In a statement confirming the news, Rays owner Stuart Sternberg says that the club “tried diligently and aggressively to sign [Maddon] to a third contract extension prior to his decision.” Sternberg added that Maddon, whose deal ran through 2015, has “enabled himself to explore opportunities throughout Major League Baseball.”

Maddon had been at the helm of the Rays for nine seasons, during which he established a reputation as one of the game’s most innovative and forward-thinking skippers. After two years in the basement, Maddon helped to oversee a stunning rise to prominence in Tampa. He ran the dugout for two AL East crowns and four total postseason appearances.

Despite that run of success, Maddon tells Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (links to Twitter) that a combination of financial disagreement and his own curiosity to seek out a new opportunity led to the move. Though a new deal was discussed, Maddon says that the sides “were still too far apart.” Maddon says he hopes to manage next year but has nothing set up at this point.

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Comments

  1. JordanMantor

    8 years ago

    Better start filling out that resume, Mattingly…

    Reply
    • MB923

      8 years ago

      I’d gladly take him as the Yankees hitting coach.

      Reply
      • PKJ

        8 years ago

        This is the most Yankees fan thing I’ve read in months. Maddon > Girardi by leaps and bounds.

        Reply
        • DerekJeterDan

          8 years ago

          He means Don Mattingly would be a good hitting coach.

        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Try reading it again.

        • mstrchef13

          8 years ago

          As a long-time Yankee hater, I’ve got a lot of respect for Girardi as a manager. As a person I think he’s a crybaby and a coward, but as a manager I think he’s done a good job with a half-AAA roster the past few years.

  2. Cody

    8 years ago

    Welcome to LA

    Reply
  3. Pingston

    8 years ago

    Wow.

    Reply
  4. driftcat28

    8 years ago

    Dodgers

    Reply
  5. TheNextEpstein

    8 years ago

    Madden to the Dodgers in 3, 2 , 1………

    Reply
  6. Dan Gorgone

    8 years ago

    Warby Parker glasses has three showrooms in LA, Joe. Celebrate your new job with some new specs!

    Reply
  7. faithlessvalor

    8 years ago

    “Après moi, le déluge.” – Andrew Friedman

    Reply
  8. badscience

    8 years ago

    Welcome to the Dodgers?! Amazing move for the Blue, if it happens.

    Reply
  9. hussflier

    8 years ago

    Tigers!

    Reply
    • MB923

      8 years ago

      Can’t fault Ausmus for the terrible bullpen.

      Reply
      • Bradley Maravalli

        8 years ago

        I agree but Ausmus didn’t carry himself in the best way. I wouldn’t be shocked if the Tigers go after Maddon because he is more polished than Ausmus.

        Reply
        • Brandon Endsley

          8 years ago

          if the Tigers wanted a polished manager why hire a rookie one? Ausmus will be the Tigers manager in 2015

      • Jack

        8 years ago

        No, but you can fault him for not calling for the bunt to move a runner into scoring position. You can fault him for pulling pitchers while they’re still pitching good.

        Reply
        • MB923

          8 years ago

          So any manager who makes a mistake or 2 in the playoffs should be on the hot seat? Yost and Bochy also have made some mistakes themselves

  10. Christopher A. Otto

    8 years ago

    Predict he takes a year off to make big money as an analyst, then lets teams bid on him next offseason.

    Reply
    • JordanMantor

      8 years ago

      This is…actually pretty conceivable.

      Reply
    • kungfucampby

      8 years ago

      Hopefully Detroit fires Brad Ausmus by then.

      Reply
  11. eck78

    8 years ago

    so long Robin – Make it happen Reinsdorf

    Reply
    • DippityDoo

      8 years ago

      He’s way to loyal to his people to ever pull a move like that, Guillen wore the welcome mat to shreds and was still there.

      Reply
  12. bloodgimp

    8 years ago

    Braves get on it! Make that call to Fredi, then the next one to Maddon. TODAY!

    Reply
    • mikeq672

      8 years ago

      You call Maddon first, you dont fire Fredi then find out Maddon isnt interested because he’s going to LA.

      Reply
      • GVB

        8 years ago

        They can fire Fredi first, no big loss there.

        Reply
      • bloodgimp

        8 years ago

        True! I still want Fredi to get that call though…

        Reply
      • LordOfTheSwings

        8 years ago

        Best possible situations ranked from best to worst in my opinion:
        1) Maddon is hired, Fredi is fired
        2) Maddon is not hired, Fredi is fired
        3) Fredi is kept on.

        Reply
  13. Adam

    8 years ago

    If the Dodgers really are sticking with Mattingly next year like the said; the Twins are the only team looking for a manager right now

    Reply
    • chicothekid

      8 years ago

      The Mets could easily fire Terry Collins. Nobody with any long term vision has any thoughts that he is the man for the job for any length of time and he only has one year left on the contract. The Mets team is currently constructed somewhat similar to what he was used to in St. Pete (pitching and defense). The farm is in better shape than St. Pete’s as well. The biggest difference between the two organizations right now that once the team starts winning, Mets fans DO actually come to the game, which will increase their ability to spend money and increase payroll.

      Am I saying it will happen? Obviously not. I think he’s going to the Dodgers this year or next year. But I wouldn’t put it in the realm of the impossible either, just because the sign says no vacancy. Maddon is one guy where that sign doesn’t apply.

      Reply
      • EzRider

        8 years ago

        Jeff says no but we can only hope somebody wasn’t listening. They could just reassign TC to a different position. They may need to trade Niese, Murph and Colon to clear some salary space though.

        Reply
  14. ian

    8 years ago

    Dodgers are the obvious choice but I wonder if the Twins might be appealing? They have some real young talent coming up in Sano, Buxton, Meyer, May, Santana etc…

    Reply
    • vtadave

      8 years ago

      Hmmm, LA weather or…. ah never mind.

      Reply
      • ian

        8 years ago

        I did say they were the “obvious choice” …

        Reply
  15. stl_cards16

    8 years ago

    Come on Mozeliak! You don’t even have to fire Matheny, he can just be friends with the players since that seems to be the only thing he brings to the team.

    Reply
    • Andy B

      8 years ago

      I like this idea, Matheny can be given the role of like Motivational Leadership Coach. Not sure Matheny would, but who asked him.

      Reply
  16. Dave

    8 years ago

    I think a LOT of “almost but not quite” managers better call their agents.

    Reply
  17. Brenton

    8 years ago

    Philadelphia

    Reply
    • JCurrie39

      8 years ago

      Would be the last place he would want to go

      Reply
      • DerekJeterDan

        8 years ago

        Ruben Amaro signed Joe Maddon… to play Third Base.

        Reply
        • Bradley Maravalli

          8 years ago

          If I were Maddon, I’d never want to work for a GM that keeps resigning his veterans and wonders why the team only gets 70 wins a year. The team needs rebuilding and I doubt Maddon wants to be apart of something like that.

      • Brenton

        8 years ago

        He’s from the area. Phils are looking like they’re about to unload EVERYONE. Just saying…

        Reply
        • JCurrie39

          8 years ago

          To me Philadelphia is 5 years and an awesome new GM away from being an interesting team. I know Joe Maddon worked with a small payroll with little talent, but it’s harder to motivate a large payroll with even less talent.

        • mikeq672

          8 years ago

          Cool, so youll still have a 200 million dollar payroll with no players instead of terrible players.

  18. GoFish

    8 years ago

    Well that escalated quickly.

    Reply
  19. DerekJeterDan

    8 years ago

    Chicago Cubs?
    That team is going to be amazing soon and Maddon will get a lot of the credit just like he did with the young Tampa Bay Rays when the top talent they have starts playing well.

    Reply
    • jb226

      8 years ago

      I’d love to have him, but I don’t see the Cubs firing/removing Renteria after one season with fairly positive developmental steps.

      Reply
      • Trock

        8 years ago

        That place on the Cubs coaching staff has been a revolving door the past 5 years essentially…why stop it now when you can get a great manager like Maddon?

        Reply
        • jb226

          8 years ago

          As a fan, I don’t care if it happens. I’d love to have Maddon.

          For the organization, they likely don’t want to set a precedent of firing people who do good work for them. It’s not exactly a great way to attract and retain those kinds of people, who will always find themselves in high demand.

        • Tko11

          8 years ago

          The overlooked factor here is Theo who has seen plenty of Maddon and I guarantee is thinking about how to lure him to Chicago asap.

        • disgruntledreader

          8 years ago

          Jed Hoyer has hired Renteria twice in six years. I think he likes what the guy brings.

        • Tko11

          8 years ago

          Reports tell me cubs are the favorites currently

        • Tko11

          8 years ago

          Reports have the Cubs as the favorites currently

        • Guest

          8 years ago

          Can’t get rid of Rickie yet. He’s a great guy had two guys bounce back that regressed the year before with him and he is bilingual, which is great for the Cubs since they have a lot of international players. I would love to have Maddon on that staff though just in case

    • JCurrie39

      8 years ago

      As much as I love Joe Maddon as a manager, I think the progression of the Rizzo and resurgence of Castro makes Renteria the best candidate

      Reply
    • slider32

      8 years ago

      Totally agree, and he might help bring in pitchers like Shields and Price.

      Reply
  20. $21621694

    8 years ago

    Despite everybody’s fail attempts to say otherwise there is absolutely no doubt he will end up in LA

    Reply
  21. UK Tiger

    8 years ago

    Welcome to Californi-a Mr Maddon…

    Reply
  22. tom

    8 years ago

    Did any of you read the post? It says he’s not going to the Dodgers.

    Reply
    • NaughtyJohnny

      8 years ago

      Maddon also said he wasn’t leaving…. and then that happened.

      Reply
      • tom

        8 years ago

        Very true. It is possible. I was just going off what the post said lol

        Reply
    • Deelron

      8 years ago

      Yeah and Nick Saban (when with the Miami Dolphins) said repeadtely he would not be the next coach at Alabama. Oops.

      Reply
    • johansantana15

      8 years ago

      If a sports team straight up denies that a personnel move will happen, there’s a good chance that they’re in negotiations and don’t want to say that it actually probably will happen because that could jeopardize the negotiations. It happens all the time.

      Reply
    • $21621694

      8 years ago

      Well it would be horrible from a PR and personal standpoint for them to say “we are highly considering hiring Maddon and firing Mattingly”. Don’t you think? Obviously they are going to come out and say that they already have a manager under contract but it doesn’t mean they are not considering Maddon!

      Reply
  23. Bleed_Orange

    8 years ago

    MLB has to move the Rays out of Tampa its just not fair to the franchise

    Reply
    • Federal League

      8 years ago

      Isn’t the team technically located in St. Petersburg, not Tampa proper, and this is part of the issue?

      Reply
      • Bleed_Orange

        8 years ago

        Yes they are in St. Pete and they have claimed that’s part of the issue, but there just isn’t a Central Florida fan base to support the team.

        Reply
        • frogbogg

          8 years ago

          There isn’t a FLORIDA fan base, let alone a central, south or deep south North.

    • Bradley Maravalli

      8 years ago

      The only problems is this… Where should they go instead?

      Reply
      • Bradley Maravalli

        8 years ago

        The only places I can think of as an improvement would be New Orleans or Charolette, North Carolina.

        Reply
        • Bleed_Orange

          8 years ago

          New Orleans wouldn’t support a baseball team. North Carolina, Nashville, San Antonio. Cities with fan bases that already support their current teams and cities with fortune 500 companies that will buy season tickets.

        • Baseball Lifer

          8 years ago

          Havana Cuba?

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          I don’t believe any of those cities would support a team over an 81 game home schedule. They are borderline NHL markets.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          I read a study that stated there were only four logical markets left.. And each had issues.
          1. A third team in the LA area
          2. A third team in the NY/NJ market
          3. Montreal
          4. Portland

          Of those I believe it was stated that Montreal was the best market….basically because a third NY/NJ team is not likely.

        • S'wade Brendamule

          8 years ago

          Unless they reconfigure the divisions, it’d have to be somewhere east (or at least relatively east)… And they just evened the divisions out, finally, so I’d say Montreal (in this fantasy) is the best option.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          I believe baseball is working toward eliminating the division format. I look for them to eliminate it and balance the schedule at some point.

        • S'wade Brendamule

          8 years ago

          Wow, so just one big…blob… of a league? I like having divisions, especially the way they are currently aligned.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          I like divisions too…but baseball doesn’t have a balanced schedule.

        • Bleed_Orange

          8 years ago

          I doubt one “blob” but probably similar to the NBA, American League and National League with a balanced schedule.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          Radical realignment is another option…traditionalists oppose it..but often they don’t comprehend it’s history in baseball. With interleague the leagues are basically moot now anyway. Go with four regional leagues. Imagine the Red Sox, Yankees, Mets, and Phils all going at it for a title.

        • S'wade Brendamule

          8 years ago

          Huh. That’d be interesting, no doubt. I think some areas would work better than others, though. Of course, there’s the whole DH/No DH can of worms and if the pitcher ain’t batting, I’m not as happy.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          DH would need to be dealt with. I’m surprised ownership wants it…that’s often a high paid roster spot that in the NL would go to a cheaper bench or bullpen arm.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          Wouldn’t be much worse for some teams than present…I’m not sure Texas or Houston especially are connected to the AL West…lots of road games now starting at 9:05 Central

        • S'wade Brendamule

          8 years ago

          Yeah, it’s teams like the Mariners…Rockies… As I’m realigning things into geographical pockets in my head, I just can’t seem to get it “just right.” And, while my brain is just riffing, I think if this hypothetical drastic realignment happens, they’d throw a bone to the traditionalists (myself, to an extent) and eliminate the DH.

          I follow the Brewers, so I was imagining a new division with MKE, CHW, CHC, MN … aaaand…KC/STL? I was sort of lumping them in with the TX/AZ/HOU group… and CLE was in something with PIT/ATL… but I’d prefer PIT & PHI to be in the same division…

          There goes my afternoon.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          Ha. Yeah…there would be some choices to make. I could see it being possible by adding a team or two.. Not that it’s likely. I’m thinking. East, Midwest, South, and West

        • yclept

          8 years ago

          Correct….Yankees and Mets will not allow a third team in the market.

        • jeff

          8 years ago

          Charlotte could be a very reasonable option. They sold out almost every Triple A game and averaged just under 10,000 for 71 games (highest in the league). Given AAA is just for fun and family with no real drive for fan competition. I think an MLB would make it given CLT had 3-5 years for the planned move. There’s also a large pull from many other medium sized metropolitan areas that don’t have a team to pull for. Durham’s AAA team does very well too. Add those two Minor league teams together and you’re already beating Tampa’s numbers.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          Maybe…but a AAA market and MLB market are two different species. MLB would demand a marketing/TV level that the area has never seen. How’s the Braves presence there?

        • 0vercast

          8 years ago

          I wouldn’t sleep on Charlotte, as the OP said. In addition to Montreal, who should have never lost their team, I feel that’s the most logical location for a new MLB team. Charlotte is a city on the rise, both in population (~2.5M), jobs (especially good-paying ones), and in affluence. In short, there are a lot of young professionals residing in Charlotte with money to burn.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          You might be right, but MLB isn’t expanding anytime soon. I started thinking this afternoon about this. I know it might sound ridiculous, but Oklahoma City is quickly becoming a viable market. It also helps when a team only has to share the market with one other major league team. Forbes called OKC and Milwaukee, of all places, America’s Cities of the Future.

        • Infield Fly

          8 years ago

          I can see the logic of your perspective but I have to ask: NC is big on basketball and football but are they really that into baseball – or are they likely to be? It’s something to think about as the “If you build it they will come” approach clearly hasn’t worked everywhere.

      • Adam

        8 years ago

        Montreal. If not for the stadium location (which was put there for the Olympics not for a baseball team) the team would have been fine. There were also plans underway for a new stadium that would have saved the team. The real reason they moved in the first place was MLB facilitating the ownership shuffle that benefited Selig’s buddies John W, Henry and Jeffrey Loria

        Reply
      • $21621694

        8 years ago

        How about actual Tampa? the problem is not St. Pete, is the traffic from Tampa to St. Pete

        Reply
  24. Bryce P

    8 years ago

    I hope the Brewers take a hard look considering last season’s collapse down the stretch.

    Reply
    • S'wade Brendamule

      8 years ago

      This isn’t the craziest idea. Doubtful, since Runnin’ Ron is coming back for another year & it’d be odd (in some respects) to drop him after being retained …but that could be said for a lot of teams’ managers right now.

      Reply
  25. citizen

    8 years ago

    shocking

    Reply
  26. Scott Berlin

    8 years ago

    Does this mean Mattingly’s job is soon in danger?

    Reply
    • ian

      8 years ago

      yep

      Reply
  27. koufaxblue

    8 years ago

    I think Donnie’s time may be over but will see. Andrew may have spoken to soon on keeping Donnie.

    Reply
  28. bobbleheadguru

    8 years ago

    He will have more impact than any FA player signing this offseason.

    Reply
    • tune-in for baseball

      8 years ago

      Maddon would be a perfect fit for the Twins, but I wish DD and Mr. I would reconsider moving Asmus to another position in the organization and hire Maddon to lead the Tigers. A fringe benefit would be a stronger chance to get Price to sign a multi-year deal. I think his signing would be #2 most important next to the Tigers signing V Mart.

      Reply
      • bobbleheadguru

        8 years ago

        Hire Maddon, trade Ausmus for a mid-level prospect like the Toronto/Boston deal. However, who would want Ausmus now?

        Too bad Leyland did not wait one more year to retire.

        Reply
    • Mr. Dart

      8 years ago

      So if you ran the Cleveland Indians you’d rather sign Joe Maddon as manager than Victor Martinez as DH?

      Reply
      • $98441342

        8 years ago

        It’s almost a certainty that Tito has the same type contingency clause with Shapiro and Antonetti in Cleveland. If Tito goes, so do they.

        Reply
  29. JimBaily

    8 years ago

    Congrats LAD, you may have just bought yourself a championship.

    Reply
    • Knockdown

      8 years ago

      Every team buys themselves a championship — be it through free agency or the draft.

      Reply
    • JB381

      8 years ago

      The key word is “may”. Maddon didn’t win a championship with Tampa. The Dodgers haven’t sniffed a championship with a $200 million payroll either.

      Reply
  30. Dave

    8 years ago

    Fire Matheny Hire Maddon!!!

    Reply
  31. Bradley Maravalli

    8 years ago

    Any team would fortunate enough to have Joe Maddon as their manager. There only a handful of teams that wouldn’t see Maddon as an upgrade, two of those those teams being in the World Series.

    Reply
    • GoFish

      8 years ago

      Maddon is an upgrade over Yost.

      Reply
      • stl_cards16

        8 years ago

        Yeah, it’s not even close. Yost is easily in the bottom third of managers.

        Reply
      • Bradley Maravalli

        8 years ago

        I agree but would KC do that? I highly doubt it.

        Reply
        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          They probably wouldn’t… But had they not come back in the play in game he’d be unemployed…. And I still think with Maddon and Gardenhire out there he should be. His snafus cost them the AL central…and made things much more interesting than need be. If I’m a Royals fan…I’m holding my breath watching Yost manage in the NL park.

  32. driftcat28

    8 years ago

    Maddon to the Dodgers obviously & Mattingly I think now becomes Yankees hitting coach or bench coach. Girardi now on the hot seat.

    Reply
    • Federal League

      8 years ago

      Why would Girardi be on the hot seat? He’s done a fantastic job with what he’s been given.

      Reply
      • driftcat28

        8 years ago

        Because to the Yankees its all about winning and they havent won lately. Yes Girardi did an awesome job but has missed the playoffs in 3 seasons as manager already after Torre never missed one. Yankee fans a re restless. another dark october and i think girardi is on the hook whether he deserves to be or not

        Reply
        • MB923

          8 years ago

          Amazing how people fault or credit managers for whether a team makes the playoffs or not. I’ve heard Many Royals fans say Yost is terrible and here he is 3 wins away from a World Series championship.

          I’m not saying managers shouldn’t get credit or blame, but my point is bad managers can still win and good managers can fall short.

          Girardi was absolutely not the reason the Yankees missed the playoffs the last 2 years. He managed the team to have winning records in seasons where they were outscored.

  33. WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey

    8 years ago

    Really tough off season for the Rays!

    Reply
    • MB923

      8 years ago

      And we are still playing baseball.

      Reply
    • d-blaque12123

      8 years ago

      Not as bad as the season will be. What more could go wrong?

      Reply
      • MB923

        8 years ago

        Attendance from 5,000 to 0?

        Reply
  34. Mike Matthews

    8 years ago

    Dodgers or Cubs.

    Reply
    • Dave

      8 years ago

      Cardinals

      Reply
  35. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    8 years ago

    Wow! Stunning!
    I thought he loved Tampa.
    While it was spring training in 2013, he was yakking away with the fans having a good time at Ed Smith Stadium. Totally different approach then Showalter.
    He would have pretty much the same team as he had in 2014. So yeah, I am a bit surprised in this move? Twins, maybe? I can’t see him sitting out next year.

    Reply
  36. Metsfan93

    8 years ago

    So, uh, I guess Joe Maddon found 35 million reasons to reconsider this morning.

    Reply
  37. StantonLikeMyDaddy

    8 years ago

    Oh man, I’d throw the guy a blank check if I were the Twins

    Reply
    • JimBaily

      8 years ago

      And if you were him would you cash it?

      Reply
      • MrCreosote

        8 years ago

        With that group of players coming up I’d certainly consider it.

        Reply
  38. Vandals Took The Handles

    8 years ago

    Love Joe……

    But after a while what used to be innovative is status quo. Every has a staff looking at the same statistics.

    Reply
    • Ryan Cothran

      8 years ago

      That’s just not at all true. And even if they “look” at it, most don’t act on it. Watch the Braves for a season.

      Reply
      • Vandals Took The Handles

        8 years ago

        It is true.

        The Rays edge was innovative use of stats. Now others are doing it, and talking away the “bargains” they the Rays found. It comes down to talent. Joe didn’t have much last year. Obviously he and Friedman saw the handwriting on the wall.

        Reply
        • Ryan Cothran

          8 years ago

          Well, we will just disagree.

        • OptimusSmoltz

          8 years ago

          You have a point, but it’s not just about the innovations…it’s about how he’s able to manage 25 big league egos. I can count on one hand the number of managers that are adept at that.

        • Vandals Took The Handles

          8 years ago

          Joe is one of my favorite managers. But that team he had last year was flat out awful. No one could hit for any length of time. I didn’t see the Friedman genius when i was watching their games.

          As for Joe – who says he wants to manage? Maybe he wants to run a baseball ops department. Heaven knows he’s more skilled and qualified then half the people doing that now.

  39. Unassisted Triple Play

    8 years ago

    “Minnesota interviews Joe Maddon for head coaching vacancy” better be a headline soon! Joe Maddon leading this young core of Twins – it wouldn’t just be good for Minnesota, it would be good for all of baseball. The AL Central is fast becoming the most competitive and best division in the AL!

    Reply
    • JimBaily

      8 years ago

      Huh?

      Reply
      • Unassisted Triple Play

        8 years ago

        Twins would be fools not to be interested. Any fan who follows mlb prospects knows the Twins are a team about to explode with on-field talent. The guys they have coming are not just impact players, they are superstar calibur impact players.

        Reply
        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          I watch their system daily….they need some arms

    • Red_Line_9

      8 years ago

      I don’t think they’ll stick Paul Molitor like that. I assume they are holding off announcing the hiring until after the series for PR

      Reply
      • Unassisted Triple Play

        8 years ago

        You make it sound like Molitor has the job! I would not be so sure. Great guy, stellar MLB career but he has deep ties to the former regime and Twins could decide a complete break is in the best interest of the club.

        Reply
        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          Former regime?_If the Twins were any more “related” they’d be amish

        • Unassisted Triple Play

          8 years ago

          Worked under Ron Gardenhire. Twins like to promote from within but don’t sleep on Tony Lovello. 4 years of the same results will make any organization want to change their ways.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          How long did Tom Kelly and Ron Gardenhire work in MN? I’m not sleeping on Lovello…I just see them not making an announcement during the series. I’m not stating a case.

        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          Tell me why he had another meeting?

  40. Ryan Cothran

    8 years ago

    Braves have made a huge splash rebuilding their front office and it makes a whole heck of a lot of sense to mix the old and new schools and hire Maddon. I’m not too optimistic though.

    Reply
    • T.j. Denzine

      8 years ago

      I swear if I read a headline that braves didn’t try to go get Maddon because they already have their manager in place, I’m going to flip out. Sure f.Gonzalez might develop into a good manager some day, but I don’t believe in developing managers at the mlb level.

      Reply
  41. RaysfaninMN

    8 years ago

    Longo next to LAD?

    Reply
    • Eric Droegemeier

      8 years ago

      And block Seager?

      Reply
      • RaysfaninMN

        8 years ago

        I was being sarcastic – apologies.

        Reply
      • Metsfan93

        8 years ago

        Honestly if you are the Dodgers and can swing a trade to acquire Evan Longoria, who is under team control for the same amount of time as Seager at very cheap rates, you do so and trade Seager to upgrade elsewhere. Heck, you probably include Seager as part of the package. Seager is younger and cheaper but his upside is still probably Longoria if he moves to third base. LAD would gladly acquire the actual Evan Longoria, who is still a great player.

        Reply
        • johansantana15

          8 years ago

          and is from the LA area

    • Bleed_Orange

      8 years ago

      Doubtful. Contract is to team friendly… even for the Rays

      Reply
  42. tune-in for baseball

    8 years ago

    What happened to the code of not making major announcements till the World Series is over? Even those inside the game don’t respect the process. MLB, don’t moan if the ratings for the World Series fall.

    Reply
    • Bleed_Orange

      8 years ago

      Ratings for the WS are falling because the Royals aren’t a very interesting team and all the playoff games were almost impossible to find until the WS started.

      Reply
      • tune-in for baseball

        8 years ago

        Lots of internal issues for MLB to try to balance between network $$$ and fan friendly policies. Royals add a new, acquired drama to the game.

        Reply
        • Jamesonhendry

          8 years ago

          Cubs ever get to the series the whole world will be watching. SF and KC who cares but those two tiny markets.

        • Eric Droegemeier

          8 years ago

          Giants are not a tiny market…

      • Lefty_Orioles_Fan

        8 years ago

        Say it ain’t so Bleed.
        Royals are a very interesting team.
        I have always admired them.
        Don’t be bitter! =P

        Reply
        • Bleed_Orange

          8 years ago

          Lol I guess my bitterness is showing through a bit.

      • $98441342

        8 years ago

        If you don’t find the Royals interesting, fine. Don’t presume to speak for others.

        Reply
      • Metsfan93

        8 years ago

        Impossible to find? Go to MLB.com. Look on the left. It lists the TV station the game is on and even a way to find what channel the game is on in local areas. And I would contend Kansas City is a very interesting team. I know a lot of people interested only for the cinderella story that is KC. Casual/non-baseball fans are less interested but true baseball fans are very interested in this WS. This is the WS I like the most, honestly, since either TEX/STL in ’11 or even PHI/TB back in ’08. I’ve hated the recent World Series’.

        Reply
        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          To be fair… Fox Sports 1 is not available in many markets. Now to get rid of the arcane mlb black out policy.

      • bloodgimp

        8 years ago

        Oooof. I strongly disagree. The Royals are and have been one of the most exciting teams in baseball this postseason.

        Reply
      • S'wade Brendamule

        8 years ago

        “Almost impossible to find.”
        Yeah, uh, no they weren’t. All I did (on nearly every game day) was say “What channels are the MLB playoffs on tonight?” into my phone and within a few seconds I had a clear display of channels, times and teams.
        If someone couldn’t figure it out, they’re either a luddite or lazy. (not you, per se, just talking in general)

        Reply
        • RyanWKrol

          8 years ago

          I’m a tech wiz myself. But most people are not. And there are many out there who either don’t have FS1 or are too poor to pay for it. You have to look at from their perspective. The network selections for this postseason were not as fool proof as in years past.

      • Bleed_Orange

        8 years ago

        To clarify what i mean by hard to find having the ALCS and ALDS games on TBS and Fox Sports1 which are channels not every person will have. Outside of those with cable (which many people are moving away from due to ease of streaming) many of these games were unavailable.

        Reply
        • RyanWKrol

          8 years ago

          They better be prepared with HBO coming out with their own service next year. When that happens, there may be a major exodus.

      • JB381

        8 years ago

        I’m watching the series because KC is the most interesting team there is. I’m not being a homer, they’re not my favorite team. Glad they beat Baltimore. I don’t think I could take watching Showalter give another riveting interview during a World Series game.

        Reply
      • oh Hal

        8 years ago

        Royals are very interesting if you ask me. It wasn’t hard to find the games.

        If MLB weren’t obsessed with money, they would have let people who don’t pay the extra for MLB Network watch for free during the playoffs.

        Reply
      • MB923

        8 years ago

        Someone’s bitter his team got swept

        Reply
    • Metsfan93

      8 years ago

      I thought it wasn’t games. I always thought MLB’s big issue was that A-Rod announced he opted out *during* a World Series game.

      Reply
    • Sky14

      8 years ago

      I don’t think Maddon opting out of his contract is going to have any effect on the world series ratings.

      Reply
      • tune-in for baseball

        8 years ago

        I was referring to the process of taking the baseball limelight away from the World Series games and dividing it up between the game and MLB news around the leagues.

        Reply
    • UK Tiger

      8 years ago

      Joe Buck could make any ratings fall.

      Reply
      • JB381

        8 years ago

        If they had Buck, Kruk and McCarver, the ratings would be zero.

        Reply
        • johansantana15

          8 years ago

          but then maybe those guys would get fired

  43. Cody

    8 years ago

    Next step, Mattingly gets the axe in a professional manner and gets a day or so to hold snippy press conferences. Then Maddon announced as Dodgers manager Sunday or Monday. Last, Mattingly gets a job managing in the AL, where his style is better suited. It would be hilarious if he went to the Rays and managed in the Yankees division.

    Reply
  44. Jays Fan 3

    8 years ago

    Pack your bags Joe, you’re heading to Hollywood.

    Reply
  45. Bradley Maravalli

    8 years ago

    Friedman can do a convincing job to get ownership on board with hiring Maddon. If they were willing to pay Friedman $35MM for 7 years, imagine what they could offer Joe Maddon. $25MM for 5 years would surpass Joe Giradi’s largest manager contract and it wouldn’t surprise me the least.

    Reply
  46. RaysfaninMN

    8 years ago

    Man I really hope Maddon does not take Hickey with him.

    Reply
    • Ernesto

      8 years ago

      I hope he drags Shelton with him.

      Reply
  47. stl_cards16

    8 years ago

    Are we even sure Maddon would gave interest coaching the Dodgers? Money talks, but managing the Dodgers would be a much different task than what he has excelled at.

    Reply
    • JimBaily

      8 years ago

      Cubs would make some sense.

      Reply
      • stl_cards16

        8 years ago

        Agreed. Renteria seems like a nice fit and I’d be surprised if the Cubs switched managers again so quickly.

        Reply
        • Red_Line_9

          8 years ago

          Joe Girardi will manage the Cubs one day

  48. tom

    8 years ago

    So lets just say if we believe ken rosenthal tweet ten minutes ago of him not going to the dodgers, then what is his next move?

    Reply
  49. HoopDreams

    8 years ago

    Such an overrated manager

    Reply
    • bobbleheadguru

      8 years ago

      Yep. He is the Jeter of managers.

      Reply
      • Scott Berlin

        8 years ago

        You mean the guy who is 6th on the all time hits list?

        Reply
        • JB381

          8 years ago

          Is that the same guy who killed the Yankee season with is farewell tour?

        • Scott Berlin

          8 years ago

          He didn’t make the lineup, that would be on management. But I bet his farewell tour boosted revenue for the Yankees which would benefit the people who kept him at the top of the lineup. The injuries killed the Yankees season more than anything.

        • Since_77

          8 years ago

          How did he kill the Yankee season? Loosing four fifths of their starting rotation along with and Teixeira and Beltran under performing killed their season.

        • JB381

          8 years ago

          I agree, there are a lot of reasons why the Yankees didn’t do as well as they should. How can you tell when Teixeira is under performing? I can’t remember when he didn’t under perform. I think the Yankees have two of the worst contracts EVER in A-Rod and Tex.

        • johansantana15

          8 years ago

          he’s a contact hitter who played a lot of games hitting at the top of the order. he was a good player on a lot of good teams, but he wasn’t the best player of his generation like his “face of baseball” reputation would lead you to believe.

        • Scott Berlin

          8 years ago

          I dont know many or any who would call him the best of his generation. He’s never even won an MVP. But you dont have to be the best player to be the face of baseball.

  50. Chris Vinnit

    8 years ago

    Poor Tampa. They had a nice run there but it’s all gone boom. They should probably just start exploring the trade market for Longo and hope they can rebuild again in 5-6 years because I really don’t see any reasons for hope in the immediate future.

    Reply
    • Metsfan93

      8 years ago

      I think the braintrust still in place is very capable. It’s not as if Joe Maddon and Andrew Friedman were the only start men in that front office. Friedman’s disciples are bound to have picked up some things, plus Friedman’s shrewd moves – acquiring Odorizzi, Smyly, Franklin and Myers, extending Longoria, Zobrist, Archer, Moore – are still bound to pay off since they’ve also got Cobb, Jennings, Kiermaier & co. in the fold. They’ll be fine for a little bit longer then they will likely blow it all up. I expect to see Longoria in another uniform by the time he becomes a player earning 15 MM a year in like five years.

      Reply
  51. DerekJeterDan

    8 years ago

    I bet the Astros regret naming AJ Hinch, Manager.

    Reply
    • driftcat28

      8 years ago

      Time to fire him lol

      Reply
    • wkkortas

      8 years ago

      That was an eventuality anyway.

      Reply
    • Red_Line_9

      8 years ago

      I don’t think so. I believe the front office wants to essentially manage the team…Hinch is their uniformed rep in the dugout.

      Reply
  52. UltimateYankeeFan

    8 years ago

    Don’t be surprised if he replace Colletti as the Dodgers GM. Following Friedman to the West Coast.

    Reply
    • Metsfan93

      8 years ago

      Joe Maddon – a longtime MLB manager – is going to follow Friedman (not pitcher Scott Feldman) to Los Angeles to perform a presumably unfamiliar role? Why wouldn’t Maddon seek a managerial job?

      Reply
      • UltimateYankeeFan

        8 years ago

        That’s probably true, but I was referring to Andrew Friedman (corrected last name) who the Dodgers just hired as their NEW President of Baseball Operation away from the Rays.

        Reply
        • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey

          8 years ago

          His name is Andrew Friedman not Feldman!!!!

          PS not sure if Fledman is a supposed to be a pun or not…

        • UltimateYankeeFan

          8 years ago

          I’ll correct it. Thank you.

        • WhoKilledTheRallyMonkey

          8 years ago

          No problem you did just make me stumble on a great pun, Joe and Andrew the Fled-man brothers!

        • Metsfan93

          8 years ago

          Well, now that you’ve edited both posts for it to say the correct last name, it’s less important. I was mostly just being snarky, since there is a player with the last name Feldman. I know Friedman was just hired, but I can’t see Maddon going to LAD unless it’s to replace Mattingly.

  53. DarthBusey

    8 years ago

    Will never happen, but he’d be an amazing get for the Mets.

    Young team, GM who appreciates analytical approach, (theoretically) resources if the team can start playing better and filling the park, etc.

    Reply
  54. Nick Cannon

    8 years ago

    Remember when the Rays were good?

    Reply
  55. grimsan

    8 years ago

    Ausmus underperformed with a relatively healthy stacked roster. Tigers will probably enter 2014 with less (no Scherzer, no Vmart). Tigers should give Maddon a try.

    Reply
  56. Doug

    8 years ago

    The Mn Twins are the only team with an opening at this moment.

    Reply
  57. davengmusic

    8 years ago

    …and that was the end of the Tampa Bay Rays…

    I think Dave Martinez should finally get his shot at managing now. Even if it’s going to be a heap of a team, it’s an opportunity.

    Reply
    • Seamaholic

      8 years ago

      They’re not a heap of a team. Their window is clearly closing, but they still have big-time talent pretty much across the board. Still have a puncher’s chance to do something. Not a terrible job.

      Reply
  58. bobbleheadguru

    8 years ago

    Rome wasn’t built in a day. Joe Maddon was obviously somewhere else at the time.

    Reply
  59. Remember92

    8 years ago

    I know this will sound absurd. But, considering how heavy the Pirates are into analytics, shifts, etc. And with their window somewhat closing every year Cutch gets closer to free agency. Could the Bucco’s make a run at him. Hurdle has been fine, granted. But Maddon is in a whole different stratosphere.

    Reply
  60. Seamaholic

    8 years ago

    Firing a current manager to hire Joe Maddon is not as simple as it sounds. Sort of thing that can easily backfire if the players liked the old guy. What I would guess is someone will bump the existing manager to a front office job — that he wants — and then go get Joe. Doubt it’s the Cubs frankly, as Renteria is very popular.

    Reply
    • Melvin Mendoza, Jr.

      8 years ago

      Which would make him an even better fit for the Braves. As far as I can tell the players don’t respect and are indifferent towards Fredi.

      Reply
      • Seamaholic

        8 years ago

        I agree. I think the Braves should be all over this. But management loves Fredi.

        Reply
        • Melvin Mendoza, Jr.

          8 years ago

          Fredi had actually done quite well record-wise in Atlanta (the dumpster fire that was last season aside), he just has a knack for making teams with such great records look so unimpressive. I would not shed a tear if he got the ax.

  61. Sky14

    8 years ago

    Interesting, so either Maddon’s representation expects him to join the Twins or that he will displace another manager. The latter could cause some issues. Recently, Terry Ryan did say the Twins were going to continue to look for new candidates so I wouldn’t rule them out, but I suspect the Dodgers are more interested than they let on.

    Reply
  62. JJ

    8 years ago

    wow this is really bad for the Rays.

    Reply
  63. Jays Fan 3

    8 years ago

    Is Maddon really as good as we perceive him to be? Yes, he’s led a very small budget team to 2 first place finishes and a world series appearance, but he also has had some pretty incredible pitching staffs and great defensive teams. I think we underestimate the caliber of rosters he’s had and overestimate his impact on them.

    That being said, I think any team would be lucky to have him lol

    Reply
    • Since_77

      8 years ago

      You are correct, I think Maddon sees the writing on the wall. He had an excellent team with when David Price, James Shields, Carl Crawford & B.J. Upton were in their primes. But Maddon probably sees a Rays team that will struggle in 2015 even in the weak AL East.

      Reply
    • Steve St Pierre

      8 years ago

      I think Maddon may be the best Clubhouse manager in the history of Baseball…Onfield decisions….not as much..

      Reply
  64. bobbleheadguru

    8 years ago

    Quick thought experiment. Joe Maddon’s contract will likely equal VMARTs in total value (more years perhaps). Who will have more value?

    If you state Maddon, they why should he not get $15MM AAV?

    Reply
  65. Andy B

    8 years ago

    How will the Dodgers remember the don Mattingly era

    Reply
  66. start_wearing_purple

    8 years ago

    I sense a few firings in the future.

    Reply
    • bobbleheadguru

      8 years ago

      So you think Maddon can manage multiple teams? Perhaps one National League and one American League?

      Reply
  67. Flash Gordon

    8 years ago

    The Dodger thing just makes too much sense. Friedman, Ex Angels bench coach, super successful manager……even if they stick with Mattingly in the short term he won’t get past the year with Maddon standing over him as “Director of Managerial and Coaching Development.” How might that sit with Donnie Baseball? If not February, no later than June.

    Reply
  68. 0vercast

    8 years ago

    Please, Twins. Make it happen! Having Maddon as manager and Molitor as hitting coach just might be what’s needed to clean up the mess in Minny.

    Reply
  69. OnBroadway

    8 years ago

    Friedman’s Dodgers just signed Mattingly to an extension. So where is Maddon and his funky glasses gonna manage in 2015?

    Reply
  70. Flash105

    8 years ago

    Cubs. Book it.

    Reply
    • Seamaholic

      8 years ago

      They better be willing to fork over some real compensation then. Sounds like the Rays suspect tampering.

      Reply
      • Flash105

        8 years ago

        Hmmmmm. I did not hear that.

        Reply
  71. SinHalo27

    8 years ago

    Maddon won’t be out of work too long if he chooses. Great manager!

    Reply
  72. sdsny

    8 years ago

    The Rays need to move. To where I have no clue, but the Rays can’t draw any fans even when they have a competitive team.

    Reply
  73. slider32

    8 years ago

    I could see Maddon going back to the Angels and bringing Price and Shields with him!

    Reply
    • Scott Berlin

      8 years ago

      The Angels payroll would probably the highest in the league if that happened. Price and Shields wont give up discounts to play with Maddon again and if they did it wouldn’t be a big bargain.

      Reply
    • Seamaholic

      8 years ago

      Yeah, right. Fire the manager who just led your team to the best record in baseball …

      Reply
  74. slider32

    8 years ago

    I can see Sliverman’s next move relocating the team to the Carolina’s!

    Reply
    • Gary Oak

      8 years ago

      That’s an owner’s decision.

      Despite popular opinion, the Rays model is not losing money, and, with their new TV deal on the verge and a new stadium in Tampa also gaining ground, there is very little possibility the Rays are playing anywhere other than in the Tampa Bay area (In Tampa, not the run-down St.Pete) long-term.

      Reply
  75. Gary Oak

    8 years ago

    The Rays ownership has stated that they would like to move, yes, but to Tampa.

    That may be sad to hear for you “fans” that wish nothing but for the Tampa Bay area to lose their team. The stadium is in the wrong city. Plain and simple.

    Expect a move to Tampa (and a more than capable baseball market, considering the Rays local TV ratings, which, are on the verge of landing them a deal close to 80 mil a year versus a 20 mil a year one they have right now).

    The Rays owners have described Tampa as a “very attractive” city for a new stadium. Hmm.

    Reply
  76. slider32

    8 years ago

    Maddon’s availability has a lot of managers sweating it out!

    Reply
  77. Pei Kang

    8 years ago

    Hey Mets…take a ….oh wait…(sigh)

    Reply
  78. Smrtbusnisman04

    8 years ago

    The Astros, DBacks, and Rangers Fans let out a collective moan “Why didn’t JOE opt out when our team was looking for a manager?”

    Seriously though, it appears certain he’ll be taking a position with the Dodgers

    Reply
  79. imaboss23

    8 years ago

    We could use him in Atlanta.Gonzalez should be fired.

    Reply
  80. Matt Musal

    8 years ago

    I don’t like this. Yet, maybe they will give the job to Dave Martinez, Dave deserves it.

    Reply
  81. cochise

    8 years ago

    Will there be a free agent profile on Maddon?

    Reply
  82. marcorincon

    8 years ago

    I think he’ll consider taking a year or two off and make easy money as an analyst, then see what gives. Maybe home to Philly area is his ideal fit as an older guy? However, I’d take the Cubs job. He’ll be a bigger man in Chitown than Ditka if he can turn the Cubs around and get them into the WS in the coming years.

    Reply
  83. NRD1138

    8 years ago

    I think people are forgetting the White Sox in all of this. I have no faith in Ventura to make this club any better, but Maddon would likely fit there as well.

    Reply
  84. julioluisveve

    8 years ago

    There is no way that Maddon resigned to become a hitting coach elsewhere. He is going for a manager’s job and with big bucks attached to it. Yes, it could be the Dodgers, but I would love for him to take over Girardi’s job to see what he can do with Yankees $$$. He was very effective without it in Tampa, so imagine him with the Yankees financial backing too. He seems to know baseball better than most.

    Reply
  85. Guest

    8 years ago

    There is no way that Maddon resigned to become a hitting coach elsewhere. He is going for a manager’s job and with big bucks attached to it. Yes, it could be the Dodgers, but I would love for him to take over Girardi’s job to see what he can do with Yankees $$$. He was very effective without it in Tampa, so imagine him with the Yankees financial backing too. He seems to know baseball better than most.

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