JULY 11: Kimbrel underwent successful left knee arthroscopy and partial medial meniscectomy surgery Monday, the team announced, and is on track to return in three to six weeks.
JULY 9: Red Sox closer Craig Kimbrel needs surgery to repair cartilage in his left knee and will be out three to six weeks, Evan Drellich of the Boston Herald tweets. Kimbrel had an MRI after experiencing knee soreness yesterday.
The 28-year-old Kimbrel, acquired at the start of the season in a big trade with the Padres, has a modest 3.55 ERA in his first year with Boston, but with his usual dominant peripherals — he has a ridiculous 13.6 K/9 to go with 4.1 BB/9 over 33 innings. He’s also recorded 17 saves this season.
Koji Uehara picked up a save yesterday for Boston, and the Red Sox added Diamondbacks closer Brad Ziegler last night, acquiring him from Arizona for two prospects. That move certainly looks to have been related to this one, although FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal tweeted before the seriousness of Kimbrel’s injury was known that the Red Sox were motivated primarily by the desire to add a different type of reliever, and via ESPN’s Scott Lauber (on Twitter), Sox exec Dave Dombrowski says the Sox and Diamondbacks were discussing a Ziegler trade before Kimbrel’s injury. In any case, the Red Sox’ timing looks fortuitous. Uehara and Ziegler will close until Kimbrel returns, according to Lauber (on Twitter). (Also via a tweet from Lauber, however, Ziegler will not be active today.)
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At least from a health perspective, the Red Sox’ bullpen has had a rough time recently. In addition to Kimbrel’s injury, Junichi Tazawa was unavailable yesterday due to shoulder soreness. The Red Sox also lost offseason trade acquisition Carson Smith, who recently had Tommy John surgery.
Jeez… Poor Red Sox.
The Red Sox are hardly poor. They’ve got at least 5 future hall of famers in their farm system and at least 15 future all-stars.
Way to commit to this! 1*
*theres not points, so I can’t award a point, but if I could I would
My god you are obsessed with this. You are literally the only one saying anything about MVPs, HOF, etc. This post has nothing at all to do with prospects whatsoever and you’re ruining the quality of these threads.
And I thought bigpapi4ever was bad…
Yes, and all five of those future hall of famers are the “starting point” in a Teheran deal, according to Braves fans. I don’t understand the hostility, we’re all baseball fans, here. Stop letting your passion for one team blind you, rather allow your love for the game as a whole lead you into intelligent and deep conversation.
The Dodgers have been “looking” at a Teheran deal, but it appears Atl. Wants to clean out half the Dodgers’ farm system. He is not all that. Answer? Forget it!
Bobby Sweet…….. I love the game, but even more than that………I love the Dodgers, and the baseball games in which they are playing. I have to be honest; the Toronto Blue Jays do very little for me!
#22LoveKershaw
Hey they fleeced Arizona, and think can expect everyone else to fall in behind also
Yeah and it’s s crying shame that they won’t spend any on Teheran…forgive me FHOF should have come first…haha
man these threads have really gone down the shitter, and its because of a select few people (like you).
Oh jeez. Cry me a river and then lighten up.
Is 3 weeks realistic at all to come back from knee surgery? The big question is how long will it take him to return to form after returning. Huge loss for the Sox.
Losing Kimbrel and Erod because of the same reason is a joke.
Trade for bullpen arms.2 more are needed plus number 4 or 5 starter and a LF
I wouldn’t add to left field. The offense has been very good to this point even with the rotation in left and Brentz has been good upon his recall. There a pretty cool article on how the lighting in major league parks is significantly better than that of the minors, thus making it easier for him to pick up the ball.
I wonder if this will push Boston to start think about meeting Atlanta’s asking price for Viz or Teheran. I know it is ridiculously high but Atl doesn’t need to trade either of them. That is why the asking price is so high.
Hahaha not every team is as dumb as the Diamondbacks
Desperate doesnt imply dumb.
The dbacks WERENT desperate to add miller and swanson inciarte blair made no sense.
The red sox ARE desperate. Middle of the season, good chance at the division, wc spot. Any time kimbrel misses is a significant loss and they need to stablize the rotation behind price.
Teheran and viz do that, but theyre are cheaper, less effective or proven options out there.
Wouldn’t be dumb to trade for teheran and viz. It would be a move out of desperation to fix the here and now.
At the price that fans seem to demand, yes, it would be stupid to trade for Teheran and Viz.
I don’t think the Red Sox are as desperate as some Braves fans may believe. I am pretty sure there won’t be a deal for Teheran price is just to high Sox will likely look to trade for a rental at the deadline at the Teheran asking prices.
Yep, losing their closer for a month, after just adding ziegler, will cause them to be stupid.
Is this seriously all braves fans do? Sit around and imagine ludicrous trades because a team “got desperate’?
Apparently you have nothing better to do than sit around all day and throw tantrums like a spoiled child. Want some cheese with your whine?
well said
I did not throw around any trade proposals. I did not name a single player that it would take. The Braves organization is asking for a lot in return for each of them. I never said Atl would get it.
Plus everyone only looks at the Miller trade….The price of pitching is ridiculously high. I AM NOT comparing Teheran to Hamels. However look at what Texas gave up for Hamels last year. He is also older and more expensive then Teheran. That being the ONLY advantage for Teheran. Also look at how much Houston gave up for Ken Giles.
So the Braves have the ability to ask for the moon. It does not mean they will get it…However maybe just maybe someone will meet their demands.
Would I like to see it involve players lake Moncada, Benintendi, or Espinosa? Of course I would love that. Is it realistic????? Probably not.
Too bad Red Sox aren’t trading their future hall of famers that are in AAA right now.
That running joke ran out of gas 2 years ago. Get off the stage, sweetheart.
The joke will go on until the media and fans stop making it seem like it’s true
It’s not a joke. A joke is funny.
Most MLB cities experience the same “loyalty” and hope. The Dodger organization and fans made every AA and AAA player for the past 40 years sound like Hall of Famers and the Orioles have made Kevin Gausman, Dylan Bundy and Hunter Harvey sound like the reincarnation of Bob Feller, Walter Johnson and Christy Mathewson. It’s how it goes.
Oh trust me I probably over value Connor Greene and Anthony Alford, it’s just I know those two arnt going to get me Mike trout. I think at least half of the Boston fans on here think they could get trout without giving up at least 1 of there big two guys
Conversations stating that they don’t want to give up moncada/Benintendi for Teheran makes you think that they likewise don’t want to give up one for Trout? You have some interesting reading skills…
The only future hall of famers around here are Teheran and Vizcaino.
Cool story, bro.
This is coming from the guy that said Blake Rutherford was a future HOF lol. Can’t take anything you say seriously
Judge Judy is a closet Red Sox fan who tries to mock Yankee fans by making up nonsense
Red Sox’s farm system has produced more All Stars than any other farm system in baseball in the last 10 years
I’m not saying you’re wrong , you may be right, but do you have a link to prove that?
Though I’m not sure why you’re using All Star ballots anyway to judge farm systems. A lot of players make all star teams that don’t deserve it.
73% of stats are made up 😀
I don’t agree with that you would have to prove it to me. Lester, Mookie, JBJ, Boegarts, Pedroia, Papelbon, Youk, Holt, Ellsbury for Red Sox farm.
Lincecum, Cain, Bumgartner, Crawford, Posey, Romo, Panik, Pablo, & Wilson for the Giants that was just my 1st team looking into and they were even.
Not saying I don’t agree with you, because I’d like to see numbers too… But if you’re giving San Fran Pablo, you have to give Boston Reddi.k, and Rizzo off the top of my head. I’m sure both teams have more though.
Pablo made the team with the Giants. Reddick and Rizzo did not and Rizzo didn’t even play a single game for the Red Sox. His list is fair
The statement was that the farm system produced more all stars. If the conversation is about the value of a teams prospects and farm system I’d say a guy drafted developed by the team counts i.e.; Rizzo.
And Reddi.k played over 150 games for the sox how does that not count as making the team?
Once again I’m not disrespecting or disagreeing with steeleretc. I’d really like to see a list, I’m sure there’s a half dozen guys from both of these teams alone that I can’t think of.
Totally agree that it’s about farm systems or development. There are other teams out there that come close also
I would like to see what other teams fit this?
Makes the Zeigler trade a bigger move than ever. If Kimbrel can be back in September he’ll be a great boost.
Kimbrel due back in August but agree hell provide huge boost when returning.
Let’s hope Koji Ziegler and rest of bullpen can stay strong and hold the ship till Kimbrel returns
Yeah, I having trouble believing in a 3-6 timeframe. Early September seems a little more believable.
Simple arthroscopic cartilage surgery is an outpatient procedure. 3 weeks may be a little optimistic, but recovery times are pretty quick.
I havnt watched many Red Sox games so I’m just by looking at Kimbrels stats, but why was he an all star and not some other deserving reliever.
Name value.
It’s basically a popularity contest now. That’s why the Cubs whole infield (besides catcher) is starting the ASG for the NL. I mean they almost voted Heyward in for God sakes. He was either 2nd or 3rd in the voting for RF. The fans get to vote and most want to see the big names, so it becomes a popularity contest. His name also holds a lot of weight
I agree , but the managers chose the pitchers though.
Well, I think even he has made some comments about that also!
Vizcaino & Teheran for Benintendi, Espinoza, Swihart & Owens I think is a fair trade.
It’s not
You do understand, the only way to know if a deal is fair or not, are the results! Right! So (IF) that trade or one similar happens and then the Redsox win the World Series, Redsox then look like Geniuses! And the trade was the right deal..No Matter what the player do in the future! That’s the goal, win it all! Right?? If they don’t then you have to look further down the road at player contributions to the teams before you can judge a trade..
I might be wrong but don’t see them after Vizcaino…and Teheran … There not going there with the price that high .. And a lot are saying left field but all there injuries will start coming back not to mention that DD is probable going to give Bentidini a shot there coming up.
Mark Melancon as a rental?
Sox have been there done that snd probable won’t go back
I really can’t wait until July 31st this Teheran to the Red Sox nonsense is getting old. Everybody in this forum thinks they are a future GM. They have all the answers. I have been looking at this site for close to 10 yrs and have commented here and there for more than half that time and I have never seen one of these no it alls ever not 1 time ever predict 1 single trade. But they all ridicule anybody that puts proposals out there for discussion.
I hope we keep Julio he is young enough to still be with the team when they make their move. But that isn’t gonna stop me from thinking up proposals and hearing how ppl feel bout them.
Hello Steelerbravesnation I think your trade proposal was not bad and didn’t warrant a snarky comment. I simply don’t believe that the Red Sox will, or should, trade two of there top 4 prospects along with Swihart. I feel that most at Braves Nation completely undervalue Swihart and I think most GM’s in baseball still value him very highly. I also don’t think the Sox are going trade Benintendi at all unless they were blown out of the water. I think DD is salivating at the thought of the three B’s in the Sox outfield. I am a biased Red Sox fan and don’t Value Teheran as high as he should be maybe. My idea of a trade would be Devers, Swihart, and one of Owens, Johnson, Elias you choose. I know that idea is ludicrous to Braves fans . That is why there will most likely not be a trade.
Also I would like to remind everyone that crazy trades happen every year. Where one team or the other feel fleeced or both come out on top!!!
Ex. Beckett, Mota and Lowell for Hanley and Anibal Sanchez plus 2 others..
Lowell just had a terrible season and Becketts numbers weren’t eye popping 3.37era that year for 2 top prospects plus. 1st year it looked like a major mistake by Boston, I believe Beckett had a 5.00 era and Lowell who was a salary dump by the Marlins got back on track.. I then believe the Redsox, much to that trades credit, won it all in 2007!
Miami got 2 very good major league players in that deal, which were eventually traded for more, as they usually do!
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