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brettmar21
I think one of the Brewers relievers may be the way to go. Jeffress, Smith and Thornburg are all controllable and have a low salary number. I am not sure the cost but I think it is worth looking in to
baumer16
They would probably ask for Lopez and some lower level prospects
mikeyst13
They would definitely be cheaper than Davis or Miller, but seeing as they are all controllable for 3 more years it wouldn’t be too cheap. Thinking the Brewers would start the bid at Fedde and a low prospect or two. Seeing that he’s below Giolito and Lopez on the Nats pecking order they could be willing to part with him.
therealryan
The Nationals should talk to the Rays about Colome. He has a 2.51 ERA, 2.41 FIP and 2.92 xFIP the last couple of seasons and has 4.5 seasons of control remaining. His numbers are better than Kimbrel’s and he also has better K%, BB%, FIP and xFIP than Wade Davis.
A package like Robles, Voth and Glover would get the Rays attention I’m sure.
therealryan
Sorry, Davis has a 2.37 FIP compared to Colome’s 2.41 FIP. My bad.
thecoffinnail
Agreed. I never understood why the Rays back end bullpen guys never seem to draw much attention. Colome would be perfect but I doubt the Rays would want to part with him while he is making the minimum. I wonder if they would be willing to buy low on Boxberger. He should be returning soon and with his high salary I am sure the Rays would be willing to let him go.
If the Yankees value Ross has highly as they appear maybe they should think about offering Betances. They could probably get Ross+ if they made him available. Washington has plenty of rotation depth. Losing Ross would hurt but with Giolito and Lopez about ready they shouldn’t have a problem filling his spot.
jchrist
Wade Davis for AJ Cole, Koda Glover and Matt Skole?
metseventually 2
I don’t see why Robertson for Ross wouldn’t get it done. Thoughts?
Priggs89
It’d make sense for the White Sox if they plan on blowing it up and trading either/both of Sale or Quintana for hitting prospects.
seamaholic 2
Older reliever having an OKish year for a young controllable cheaper starter? Sox would have to add a lot.
basquiat
The Nationals need to stay away from Robertson. He hasn’t been that effective this year. Papelbon has to go. He’s not getting the job done and it’s time to eat the loss and move on. If they can get Wade Davis, go for it.
Priggs89
That’s just not true at all. He has been SIGNIFICANTLY more effective than his ERA suggests. He’s given up 16 of his 20 runs on the year in 4 games (4 runs in the other 35). 3 of those games he shouldn’t have even been in – up 7-1 and the genius that is Robin Ventura put him in and let him give up 6 runs in a horrible outing; already losing 8-4 against the Nats and Robin decided to pitch him for some reason, and he gave up 3; and then Chris Sale had a 1 hit shutout through 8 with only 100 pitches, and for some reason, Robin decided that was a great time to switch things up (the reason being that Robin is an idiot). The blown save in Detroit a couple days ago where he gave up 3 homers was his only bad performance in a game that mattered that he SHOUlD have been in. Like I said, he has been MUCH more effective than his ERA suggests. 16 runs in 2.2 innings; 4 runs in the other 37.9 innings.
max l
As a Nats fan:
They need somebody to actually replace Crapelbum (I’ve never liked him, never will like him) in the 9th inning. Miller or Davis would supplant him. Not sure Robertson, Gomez, Jeffers, or Colome would replace cancer, so in this case: yah the 6th/7th/8th inning gets better, but we still lose in the 9th!! As for the not trading Giolito/Lopez debate: I’m all for keeping positional prospects untradeable if they look like the real deal (like Bryant, Harper, Trea Turner, Lindor, Correrra, etc.) but you should let pitching prospects go. Miller & Davis are proven commodities that will help this franchise today, while in all likelihood Giolito & Lopez will make a handful of more starts this year (mostly in September), and won’t be a part of the playoff roster if they even get there. Sure Lopez & Giolito could turn out to be the next Randy Johnson & Pedro Martinez…..and yes that’ll suck in 2020 but it’s highly just as likely they turn into the next Trevor Cahill & Dustin McGowan. You never know because they are still prospects. You know for a fact Wade Davis & Andrew Miller are an improvement for your team. And since each comes with another year of control after this (& Miller 2 more years) you could easily, at the worst, swap them out in the offseason, next July, or in Miller’s case, the 2017 off season and try to recoup half of what you gave up. For a franchise that has all of 1 of NLCS appearance (81 in Montreal) playing in a city that hasn’t made a World Series in like 80 years, much less won one, you take the chance. Remember in 2012 at the Stras shutdown people were saying “well, this team will be here every year, so that’s the worry this year??” How’s that gone for them?? This team is not making the World Series, much less winning it, without a Miller/Davis makeover in the 9th. You never know what’s going to happen tomorrow (Murphy could revert to Mets regular season Murphy, Harper could prove 15 was a fluke, the SP suffers debilitating injury, and all of a sudden you finish 3rd this year because you wouldn’t trade Giolito, & you finish 4th in ’17 because the Braves made some good FA signings, and Giolito in his first full ML season finishes with a 8-17 record, 5.54 ERA, and a 1.96 WHIP, and than 2018 comes along, Harper’s last season, and they haven’t even sniffed the playoffs since July, 2016.
Ask the Royals & Yankees what they want. As long as it’s not Turner send either of them whatever they want, Giolito/Lopez/Ross/Voth/Difo/Cole/Fedde they can have anything. We have the chance after blowing it last year, don’t blow it again!
johnyf
Amen. I would like to see this happen for America. It wouldn’t hurt to also add Carlos Beltran, to hit behind Harper. Tough to walk Harper then. Oh wait, I thought you meant Miller and Beltran to Cleveland. That would be interesting. Harper will be a Yankee soon enough.
therealryan
Why wouldn’t Colome help in the 9th? He has 21 saves in 22 chances this year. If it is because Papelbon will complain, I have a feeling he will no matter who comes over to pitch the 9th.
hojostache
Well said. You guys needs a solid back-end arm and maybe a setup guy too. I’d prefer not (as a Mets fan), but to compete with the Cubbies, rolling with Papsmear is asking for a painful sept/oct implosion.
ps. Murph is the real deal. Kevin Long fixed his swing and Murph has turned into a top-notch professional hitter. If Harper can bounce back a bit more, that is a scary middle of the lineup getting rolled out in DC.
lonechicken
Is Michael A. Taylor off the table? I just don’t see a place for him in DC anymore, considering Turner’s going to play CF among his super-utility duties, Revere is showing life, and Robles is the CF of the future.
As tantalizing as Reynaldo Lopez seems, the Nats might have to loosen up just a little and include him in hopes of getting Miller or Davis. Any other closer probably isn’t worth the trouble.
baumer16
If the Nats want Miller or Davis they will most likely have to give up Giolito. They are both worth more than Chapman. Lopez will not get it done
hojostache
In this market…yes…Miller/Davis may be valued more highly than a TOR prospect, but I think that is merely a ripple effect from the Royals’ last two years of success. That thinking should fade when people actually look at the numbers and project out cost in $’s, WAR (I know..but ppl like it), supply/demand, etc. A TOR prospect will always be worth more than a shutdown closer (sans Mariano or maybe Eck in his hayday) because there is still too much variance with BP arms to invest the years needed to maximize control (and sustain value for a trade, if necessary).
Closers are sitting on a bubble and much like Hammer Pants….people will wake up one day and wonder how they got sucked into the hype.