5:28pm: In something of a contrary report, ESPN.com’s Andrew Marchand says that the organization doesn’t believe it should or will send money to facilitate a deal involving McCann. Of course, these can be squared in a way: Passan’s report suggests that the team would only pay part of McCann’s ongoing obligations if it was to receive a substantial return, which would suggest a scenario in which the Yankees were effectively buying other assets with cash.
1:50pm:Â Brian McCann’s name has predictably surfaced in trade rumors this winter, following Gary Sanchez’s breakout in New York, and Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports provides the latest update, tweeting that the Yankees are willing to eat as much as $17MM of the remaining $34MM on McCann’s contract but want “multiple top young players in return.”
The 32-year-old McCann (33 in February) isn’t the offensive force that he once was behind the plate but has still drilled 20+ homers in nine consecutive seasons and is coming off a .242/.335/.413 season that represents a significantly above-average year offensive year relative to other backstops around the league. He has a full no-trade clause as part of the five-year, $85MM deal he signed with the Yankees prior to the 2014 season, although McCann must also recognize that Sanchez will catch the majority of the Yankees’ games next season, so perhaps he’d approve a deal to a team that allows him more time behind the dish. In addition to the no-trade clause, the remaining $34MM on his contract was a potentially major roadblock for interested teams, although the Yankees’ willingness to pay down up to 50 percent of that certainly makes McCann a reasonable financial investment.
That said, I’d have to imagine that many teams would still balk at the idea of surrendering top-tier prospects for a 33-year-old catcher, even if he’s “only” on a two-year, $17MM commitment. The free-agent market bears numerous younger options, including Matt Wieters, Jason Castro and a currently injured Wilson Ramos. McCann remains an above-average pitch-framer, but his caught-stealing rate took a step back last season and some clubs will inevitably wonder how well he can hold up behind the plate over the final two seasons of his deal. There’s sure to be interest, given the level of money the Yankees are apparently willing to commit, but depending on how literally one takes Passan’s adjectives of “top” and “young,” finding a sufficient return could be tough.
And it should be noted that despite the Yankees’ preference to get younger, holding onto McCann is far from a terrible outcome. He can still serve as the team’s backup catcher on days that Sanchez can’t get behind the plate, and he has enough bat to get semi-regular plate appearances as a DH. While the $17MM price tag is excessive for a player with a good-not-great bat and only occasional time behind the dish, the Yankees can afford to make it work.
The Astros are reported to be one team with interest in McCann and are said to be “desperate” to add a catcher and a left-handed bat, so McCann’s appeal there certainly makes some sense. He could pair with right-handed-hitting Evan Gattis to give the ’Stros a pair of sluggers that will see most of the time behind the plate and would help to balance out a righty-heavy lineup there. McCann’s former team, the Braves, were also commonly linked to him in August after he cleared revocable trade waivers. At one point, Atlanta was said to be willing to pay half of McCann’s contract, which would suggest that there’s a potential match at present from a financial perspective. However, FanRag’s Jon Heyman reported in September that if the Braves were to pay that much of the contract, they wouldn’t be willing to send significant prospects back to the Yankees.
zdc
This sounds a lot like how Cashman dealt with Miller
casualatlfan
Before anyone comments about a trade involving Foltynewicz and/or Inciarte, no, it won’t happen, even with the Yankees eating some of the salary. Stop suggesting it.
Honestly, the Yankees are going to have to lower their asking price if they’re going to get any takers for him. I understand trying to gauge the market and trying to sell high, but this is starting to become a bit ridiculous.
iapunk
You’re spot on. There’s no way Coppy would give anything close to that. Maybe Mallex and Blair or Wisler and a mid-level pitching prospect but even that is a stretch.
Kayrall
Nah, bro, ‘If you want McCann, give us Schwarber or you get nothing. We’ll just hold on to him.’
rocky7
Wow…I thought the article basically dealt with the possibility of McCann going to the Astros. I guess we all missed something.
All you Atlanta fans are the ones that keep bringing up a trade to your ballclub. There wasn’t a single mention of that in the article.
You would think that Atlanta was on the brink of some type of major dynasty the way all you fans keep turning the screws on why McCann isn’t worth any of your precious prospects. Or you fought the Cubs for the rights to the 2016 World Series!
Bartolo….wow now that’s a blockbuster! If this pitcher Fonty is such hot stuff, why trade for a 40 something pitcher that basically will give a decent chance to win but eats up innings.
The only thing ridiculous is that Atlanta fans keep bringing up trade scenarios that you think don’t make sense. Enough already!
The only thing your on the brink of is supplanting Cubs fans as the most acrimonious on this site. At least they won!
Gogerty
Did I miss what the last third of the article was about? Or that Bartolo was signed as opposed to traded for?
Nice rant though.
Dookie Howser, MD
1) You actually did miss something. If you finished reading the article, it does address the possibility of McCann to Atlanta trades where the Braves offered to pay half of McCann’s salary, but not give up any significant prospects if that were the case over the summer.
2) It is not just Braves fans, but general baseball fans that think McCann (when also including his salary, age, and need to DH or sit on a fairly regular basis) does not fit on a young, rebuilding team, at least not at the prices that the Yankees are asking.
3) Teams need 5 starting pitchers. The Braves had fewer than that last year, and many of their top pitching prospects will not be ready for 2017, so they had holes to fill. Colon and Dickey – two solid, if unspectacular veterans – are good, low cost, high-ish reward stopgaps.
4) Learn the difference between your and you’re.
5) Look up the definition of acrimonious, then re-read your rant.
JKurk22
This guy is an idiot just trying to stir things up. Ignore him
cjb
You say if Folty is hot stuff then why sign a 40 something pitcher, well duh, there are 4 other pitchers in a rotation. Idiot….
Thegreatandpowerfulsimba
Bmac gets to say where when and if he goes. Don’t troll my peeps… it’s to easy for to put there panties in a twist or get a 20 team trade proposal… real talk forget bmac. There is a standing offer out there already if the yanks wanna dump salary. Recker is a physical beast. And everyone knows why the braves are excited- new stadium, new cash, no bad contracts, and a farm built top to bottom the right way. And these 40 something year old pitchers are worth fringe top 100 prospects/1st round talent at the trade deadline. 15 million for two 2014-2015 1st rounders. The braves are gonna beat the brakes off the cubs in a couple years
Dmalsch22
I love how everyone on this site comments like they know more than the actual gm of the team. We can all say his asking price is too high but I’m sure he knows what he’s doing, he’s not stupid. We don’t get to listen to all his phone calls with other teams. He knows what the value of McCann is and how other teams view him way more than commentors
Priggs89
Or he knows that he won’t get what he’s asking for, and he’s starting high so he has room to come down and hopefully still get a decent prospect or two when it’s all said and done. If anybody values McCann THAT highly, they definitely should not be working in a major league front office.
slider32
I have said all along I think the Astros or Nats are a better fit for McCann because they are contenders. Cashman is looking for starting pitching in return like Feede or Paulino. Both seem to be the target now that Cashman is willing to eat half his salary. At 9 million McCann moves up to the top of the list for the Astros and Nats.
sidewinder11
He won’t be traded until after some of the FA catchers sign their deals and the remaining teams with needs behind the plate become desperate.
billdale
This ^. They may lower their asking price eventually but no reason to do it now.
agentx
NYY may not ultimately trade McCann, but at least we know what eBay would call Cashman’s “Buy It Now” price.
cxcx
This is a total old person joke, not that I didn’t enjoy it slightly.
jason518
The Yankees are not in the charity business, if someone wants Brian McCann, they’re going to have to give to get him.
Dookie Howser, MD
I don’t see any NL team trading for him.
kimball0401
Yankees better get the prospects the team that gets McCann is getting an above average hitter for his position
defiancy
He had a wRC+ of 103 last year. So he was exactly 3% better than average. So i guess, technically you are correct he is “above average” but he is close enough that he is basically an average hitter right now.
stonepie 3
average catcher wRC+ is lower than 100, i believe its around 90ish. So mccann is definitely above average in that regard
Priggs89
They’re also getting a soon-to-be 33 year old catcher that’ll probably be spending most of his time as a DH in the near future, where his bat is no longer above average.
go_jays_go
Two quotes:
1. “that represents a significantly above-average year offensive year relative to other backstops around the league. ”
2. “He can still serve as the team’s backup catcher on days that Sanchez can’t get behind the plate, and he has enough bat to get semi-regular plate appearances as a DH.”
If you believe that Sanchez’s bat is ‘for real’, then it should be the other way around.
Play McCann as the main catcher, and Sanchez as primary DH / backup catcher. That way, the Yankees will be receiving above average offense both at catcher and at DH.
It will also allow for Sanchez to play closer to 140 – 150 games if he’s used as the primary DH.
kimball0401
You lose so much value from not having Sanchez behind the plate and McCann can bring back pretty good talent
go_jays_go
except McCann will be gone in 2 years, and that’s when Sanchez can take on catching full time.
also, when you say you lose ‘so much value from not having Sanchez behind the plate’, why does that matter?
he’s not be traded or anything.
cxcx
I’m pretty sure the goal is to play Sanchez ~160 games, with him DH’ing any games he’s not catching.
And it is entirely irrelevant whether McCann DHs and Sanchez catches or Sanchez catches and McCann DHs, at least in terms of maximizing hitting ability at each position, based on the transitive property or something like that.
Priggs89
This. It literally makes no difference which one plays which position. If both bats are in the lineup, they’ll be getting the combined output no matter which one plays catcher and which one is at DH. Who cares if they are “above average” at both positions when the end result is the exact same?
go_jays_go
McCann makes for the better defensive catcher. Offensively, it looks like a lateral move.
Defensive, this alignment would be better for the yankees
connorreed
Since when is McCann a better defensive catcher than Sanchez?
Let’s not forget he’s 33 next season.
For one, Sanchez has an elite arm. McCann caught 23% of baserunners last season (26% for his career). Sanchez threw out 13 of 32 basestealers last year (41%). Since 2013, he’s thrown out 45.98% of the 348 attempted basestealers.
And it’s not just his arm. No matter what defensive metric you look at, Sanchez ranked better – dWAR, Baseball Prospectus, Baseball Info Solutions, Fielding Bible, Fangraphs. They all grade Sanchez as a considerably better defensive catcher than McCann was last season.
Baseball Prospectus graded them both as above-average framers. StatCorner estimated that McCann got one extra strike called for every two games he caught compared to Sanchez.
It was a small sample size, but pitchers had a slightly better ERA with McCann behind the plate. So perhaps he’s a better game-caller, but that’s about experience. And Gary Sanchez is the catcher of the future, so why would you not improve his defense as much as possible?
galihaaben 2
They already have Austin Romine, a pretty good backup catcher. Used the most of his opportunities this season when McCann and or Sanchez were resting.
josc2
Very interested to see how this plays out. Win/win for yanks IMO. Either you trade him and add some much needed youth, and hopefully a nice arm. Or keep him and he’s a very solid DH/backup C. I don’t think they’ll be able to acquire any “top” prospects for him, but if they’re willing to eat 50% of the contract there’s no reason to believe they won’t be able to extract a nice piece or two from (likely) the Braves or Astros.
jljr222
My trade proposals aren’t very good, but how about Musgrove and maybe a prospect in the 25-30 range in their system for McCann and half his salary?
Whyamihere
you’re right, that isn’t very good.
BoldyMinnesota
Teams in need of a catcher would be much better off saving their prospects and just spending the money on Castro or Navarro. Sure the production might be a bit less, but when you add in that you didn’t have to give up prospects they become way more valuable
Dmalsch22
If you want to sign one of them fine. But McCann is proven and teams understand that prospects are just prospects. According to baseball America almost 70% of mlbs top 100 prospects will fail to make it to the MLB level or fail to spend at least 3 years at the MLB level. ( stats from 1990-2015 ) that why teams give up prospects that fans can’t understand the reasoning.
BoldyMinnesota
But those prospects could be used on someone a lot better than McCann
koz16
Cashman has done a great job at trading for young talent lately so I would not put it past him to swing another prospect laden trade for McCann plus cash and a piece or two. The other thing is, Cashman’s not going to go out there and say he wants two mid level prospects or a veteran retread for McCann as his starting point. That would kill McCann’s value. Start off big and see how the FA signings work out. It’s like the Yankees have a need or rush to deal McCann, but another team might feel the pressure to make a deal over the winter.
Prozack
I’m sure the Dbacks would be interested. I’m sure they could get a deal done. Something like Goldy and segura for Mccann and ellsbury. Yes, I am kidding and yes I’m serious.
galihaaben 2
At this point who knows????? Today’s already been mind boggling with the Braves signing two 40-year old pitchers, Dickey and Colon. Braves might as well try and reach out to Randy Johnson and Jamie Moyer to round out the rotation.
galihaaben 2
So what does Cashman have in mind for a return…? Correa? Sadly, McCann can’t be shopped around and receive a great return similar to the Chapman and Miller deals.
AstrosWS20
The Astros won’t trade Correa for anyone let alone McCann. The only semi fair deal in that regard would be Sanchez for Correa and I’m still taking Correa.
AstrosWS20
Haha. The Astros aren’t trading Correa for anyone let alone McCann. The only semi-fair deal between the Astros and Yanks in that regard is Sanchez for Correa and is still take Correa.
galihaaben 2
Right, but was just sarcasm. It’s just to show how outrageous it is that Cashman is asking price is high. If the Braves weren’t willing to give up (and for good reason) BOTH Inciarte and Foltynewicz for McCann, what would make Cashman think that the Astros might be more lenient. But I am reading around that the Astros are also interested in Gardner, which would make an interesting blockbuster trade for this offseason. Of course, Gardner and McCann will not net any of the best of the Astros, but some other guys, presumably prospects.
bravesguru
Braves might trade Foltynewicz to the Yankees for McCann if New York sends back $12M,$12M and $10M for 2017-2019. This would be an even deal. Folty will be a #2 by the time he hits arbitration and that will be in 2018 with five years of control.
NL_East_Rivalry
If the Braves were willing to trade Folty for McCann then they would have picked him up off the waiver wire, but he went unclaimed
dobsonel
McCann only has two years left on his contract. Not three.
slider32
If the Yanks can move McCann I think they sign EE as a DH and protection for Sanchez, He would also give the Yanks protection for Bird.
Francys01
It is getting interesting if Brian McCann is going to be dealt,but a lot of teams are in need of a catcher like the Astros. If the Yankees want to trade McCann they should ask for really good prospects or players that are already in the major because McCann is a nice catcher and the yankees will eat half of his salary.To me McCann should get traded it back to the Atlanta or the Mets.
cj1020
McCann and Gardner for a couple good prospects or one mlb ready and a mid prospect. Then sign cespedes
AstrosWS20
I love the idea of the Astros adding McCann. He’d add a great veteran presence to a very young clubhouse, kinda similar to David Ross for the Cubs. McCann is much more capable of playing everyday though and is an above average hitter at catcher.
I always find it difficult to guess on a legit trade proposal when money is involved. It depends a lot on the clubs I think. Maybe something like Michael Feliz and Tony Kemp? They’re young and have major league experience. Feliz would be the prize if the deal. I could see Derek Fisher, JD Davis or Albert Abreu being in there somewhere too. I’d love to include Colin Moran, but I doubt the Yanks would take him unless he’s an add on.
richrevere
I bet the Yankees go for like Doug fister a middle rotation guy and a PTBNL for McCann if they deal him gets us a solid 2 or 3 starter we need and a complementary piece maybe a guy from like single A
tbones3141
Why not meet in the middle. Yankees give only 8 million (instead of 17) and then get a B spec? Sims/Wisler/Blair. Win-win?
slider32
I think Cashman wants a good young pitching prospect for McCann, and I think the Astros or the Nats will make that deal if he pays down the contract to 17 million for 2 years.
tbones3141
I agree, but Wisler/Sims/Blair are not bad prospects. I think the Braves are willing to take a little less salary to make it happen. I guess we will see. I cant imagine we are contending until 2018 at the earliest, so im not sure it makes so much sense anyway. With McCaan having value working with young guys…he wont be working with only one of them in 2017 with Dickey and Colon on board. So you are paying a lot for 1 year of his “intangibles”. I say go get Norris and see what he could be.
Dookie Howser, MD
I can see that being about what the Braves would be willing to give up, but the Yankees would want more (and could probably get more from a other team) back than that when picking up that much salary.
B_MAC
The main thing with Cashmans asking price is that he doesnt have to trade McCann. They are the Yankees. They dont have to shed salary (even tho they stated the desire to get under the luxury tax). Would actually be better if they kept him as insurance. So the only way he is leaving is if its an overpay. If Cashman doesnt get what he wants no reason to trade.
B_MAC
Furthermore he would improve ANY team he went to. Even with a declining bat and defence. His real value is in how he works with a pitching staff and his clubhouse presense.
Dookie Howser, MD
100% right. Cashman really doesn’t even have that much incentive to make the trade. The Yankees have a free DH spot, a young catcher who could benefit from being around a vet, and money to pay for them both.
bravesfan1998
Well the Yankees can go suck a weiner
rivera42
Aww…are you mad?
rivera42
Lol, sorry Atlanta, the Yanks aren’t the D-Backs.
Bob Knob
Still wondering – what so special about the Inciarte kid from Atlanta ?
bravesguru
Average WAR of 4.25 for three years. That is $126,000,000 in excess value for his teams over that period. Even at 3.0 WAR for his four controllable years that is excess value of $80-$100 Million.
ripcookies
generally, if you are selling something, you want the best return possible… usually $. Let’s judge cashman on the return he gets before we jump on him for his asking price. All you nerds think you know everything. Just common sense to ask for a high return. Maybe even higher when you don’t want to part ways with the player in question
bravesguru
McCann has a projected WAR of 1.9, and 1.7 for 2017-2018. This is valued at $36million maximum. His cost is $34 Million so his risidual value could be $1 Mil per year max. If the Yankees buy back value and kick in $17 Million that sums up to $19 Million. In the Braves organization that woud be either Anfernee Seymour, Max Povse, or John Gant, each of which have an estimated value of 19-20 million. It could also be equal a pair of prospects such as Anthony Recker and Brandon Cunniff, or the pair of Blake Lalli and Akeel Morris as well. These are deals that could get done.
Jeff Todd
Not sure where you’re deriving these prospect valuations from, but they seem rather optimistic. And neither Anthony Recker nor, in particular, Blake Lalli have anything I’d really label as trade value (let alone the prospect kind).
bravesguru
Lalli has 6 controllable years, Recker only a couple. They are included as backup catchers which is the same role as McCann. Cunniff, Morris, Seymour, Povse and Gant. A prospect is a player who is not on an MLB team.
billysbballz
To Brave fans and you know who you are since there’s not allot of you!
First off the Yankees have st very least 3 interested teams which drives up the price.
Astros
Nationals
Braves
Secondly, the top of the thread provides facts where sources state the Yankees do not intend on eating money on McCann’s contract unless they get a substantial return. SUBSTANTIAL can only possibly mean a high end prospect or maybe even a mid rotation major league ready arm. Who knows but it’s SUBSTANTIAL meaning it’s not a mid level prospect and we eat 17 million to boot.
Third, most Yankee fans, the GM, and front office love McCann’s intangibles. He is a clubhouse leader, a left handed power bat that we are suddenly lacking, a catcher with power and slightly above avg defensively which is hard to find who can give Sanchez time at DH, and did I say a clubhouse leader which is irreplaceable in a long season.
So lastly, if the Yankees trade him they are gonna see what the market dictates and let the capitalist trade market dictate what return would be but I guarantee it won’t be a mid level prospect and Yanks eat 17 million so please stop wasting time posting that sillyness.
Dookie Howser, MD
I agree with you (and Cashman) that if the Yankees kick in a significant amount of money, McCann has a lot of value. We do need to remember, though, that McCann did clear waivers, so is value is going to be very limited without kicking in some cash.
The reason why I don’t see the Braves pulling the trigger on a McCann trade is because it really doesn’t help their team or fit their plan. They are still rebuilding, and adding an aging catcher at a substantial price (either in prospects, players, or money) does not make sense for them.
billysbballz
Also if you think beating on McCann will drive down the return then it’s time to pop the bubble you live in because the Yankees do not need to trade him, in fact it might be better served if they kept him unless they get a return that makes too much sense.
Dookie Howser, MD
I disagree, Brian Cashman spends a SUBSTANTIAL amount of time reading through comments on the internet when valuing his players, and takes all of our opinions into account.
bernbabybern
I remember when the Yankees wouldn’t get this for Champman and wouldn’t get that for Miller, then they did.
Don’t undervalue BMac, he’s a good catcher and if the Yankees include significant money he’s a bargain.
2016aAintSoBad
The last update makes a Braves trade more likely.
slider32
The Braves started changing their tune once the Astros and Nats showed some interest. The teams appear to be in contact and making offers, the next step would be that Cashman and the other team get the right package. Seems like this will happen soon or we will wait until other catcher come off the board.
Yankees2425
I find it funny how Cashman asked for Springer and others in a deal. I know you have to gauge the market but McCann will never bring back that much at 33.
llasasso93
The Yankees really shouldn’t have to throw in any money unless they are getting a substantial return. McCann is a good defender and his offense is very solid for a catcher, he’s hit at least 20 homers for the past 9 straight seasons and with all the money everyone is getting paid now a days he’s a pretty good bargain.
dobsonel
If Yanks can get Tate for 2 months of Beltran and Cessna and Green for Justin Wilson, they should be able to get something similar for McCann.
slider32
You could make the case that McCann would have the 3rd best WAR on the Braves at 1.9. Only Freemand and Inciarte would be better at their positions.
BSPORT
If they are going to pay half of remaining salary they should wait until July when someone really needs a catcher. Will get best value and he will be around to help Sanchez with sophomore slump and some of the young pitchers. Maybe grab a couple of decent prospect pitchers. Won’t get top but solid.