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Trade Chatter: Cabrera, Longoria, McCann, Kendrick, Ozuna, Espinosa

By Jeff Todd | November 9, 2016 at 12:03pm CDT

With money to spend, the Astros are expected to pursue a big-ticket bat, per Jon Morosi of MLB Network (Twitter links). There has long been at least some reason to believe the ’Stros would be in on free agent Edwin Encarnacion, and that’s a possibility per the report. More intriguingly, though, Morosi suggests that Houston will look into dealing for Tigers superstar Miguel Cabrera. There are a number of barriers to that kind of move, of course. While Morosi posits that fellow Venezuelan Jose Altuve could be part of a sales pitch to get Cabrera to waive his no-trade protection, that’s but one element. Astros GM Jeff Luhnow said yesterday that he prefers not to part with young assets to make a deal, and surely Detroit will want something back for a player who is still producing premium offensive numbers at 33 years of age. But he’s getting up in years, is limited to first base or DH, and is still owed $220MM over the next seven seasons.

  • Speaking of blockbusters, Morosi also suggests on Twitter that the Rays will be open to scenarios involving star third baseman Evan Longoria. The Dodgers could be one possibility, he posits, at least assuming they don’t land Justin Turner in free agency. Again, it seems there’s reason to avoid running away with expectations. Longoria is fresh off of a strong campaign and is only beginning a reasonable, but hardly cheap $100MM contract extension that was struck way back in 2012. Though Tampa Bay is always a candidate to move salary, and the connection to Rays-turned-Dodgers exec Andrew Friedman is interesting, Los Angeles has proven hesitant to deal away top-quality young assets under his watch. And that’s surely what the Rays would request.
  • The Yankees are readying for a possible deal involving catcher/DH Brian McCann, as Ken Davidoff and Joel Sherman of the New York Post report. Although that is hardly a forgone conclusion, it certainly seems as if a trade is a legitimate possibility. New York GM Brian Cashman has chatted with McCann’s agent about the possibility of a trade — the veteran has full no-trade protection — and Cashman acknowledges that there is a lot of interest with a lot of rivals seeking to improve behind the dish. Meanwhile, the long-time Yankees GM noted that he doesn’t foresee striking a major deal for an ace-level starting pitcher, explaining that such a move would be more appropriate if the club were to “feel like you’re one player away.”
  • We heard yesterday that the Dodgers will consider dealing veteran infielder (and, more recently, outfielder) Howie Kendrick, with a reunion with the Angels cited as a possibility. But that’s not a very realistic scenario, in the estimation of Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register (Twitter links). Though he only requires a one-year commitment, Kendrick also isn’t terribly cheap with $10MM owed for 2017. He’s also a right-handed bat, which wouldn’t be preferred, and has shown signs of decline in the field and at the plate. The Halos are likely “aiming higher,” per Fletcher, who recently broke down some options for the club. Los Angeles isn’t interested in moving Yunel Escobar to second, he notes, but will be pursuing outside additions. Fletcher cites Cesar Hernandez of the Phillies as a trade possibility, with Derek Dietrich of the Marlins and Scooter Gennett of the Brewers also representing possible trade candidates (though both would arguably best be paired with a platoon mate).
  • Marlins center fielder Marcell Ozuna has long been a popular name in trade chatter, though he remains in Miami after a strong 2016 season. As MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro reports, the Marlins aren’t desperate to move him — though they are putting a priority on adding quality starting pitching, and may find that necessary. President of baseball operations Michel Hill explained that the team will continue to put a high price on Ozuna. “We’re not going to sell him on the low, or trade him 20 cents on the dollar, because this is a premium position player with power and athleticism,” said Hill. “I think he showed this year, this is who he is.”
  • As the Nationals evaluate their options up the middle with a bit of roster flexibility, the team is amenable to consider moving veteran shortstop Danny Espinosa, GM Mike Rizzo suggested to reporters including Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post. Though Rizzo said he’d still be “comfortable” utilizing Espinosa at short, he noted that there a variety of other possibilities. “I could see him as utility player. I could see him as a player you could utilize in a trade context to get another piece that you need,” Rizzo said. “There’s a lot of moving parts we can go, and a lot of different avenues we can attack.” While Espinosa doesn’t have immense trade value — he’s limited offensively and projects to earn $5.3MM in his final season of arbitration eligibility — it’s certainly possible to imagine him being swapped out for another short-term veteran at another area of need (the bullpen, perhaps).
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  1. jimbo504 2

    9 years ago

    Longo and Kiermaier to the Cardinals for Grichuk/Peralta+prospects. Make it happen Mo!

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    • vtadave

      9 years ago

      good luck with that

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    • greiunfioewfm

      9 years ago

      why would the Rays do that?

      Reply
      • vtadave

        9 years ago

        They wouldn’t. Start with Reyes and Piscotty.

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        • birds

          9 years ago

          You must not know how good Reyes is

          Reply
        • Jizz Chasholm

          9 years ago

          You must not know how good longo and kiermaier are

          Reply
        • birds

          9 years ago

          No im fully aware.. but you said “start” with one of the best pitching prospects in baseball, who’s going to be a number one starter for a very long time and add in the Cardinals four hitter, so you’re implying they need to add more than that when that’s already too much for an average hitter and good CF and a good player in Longoria who’s 31 and always hurt

          Reply
        • vtadave

          9 years ago

          Very aware of Reyes’ upside, but saying Grichuk/Peralta plus undefined “prospects” is getting you Keirmeier and Longoria is laughable.

          Reply
      • dsauer23

        9 years ago

        He must be a dumb cardinal fan. Lol

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        • AddisonStreet

          9 years ago

          That’s redundant.

          Reply
    • Vedder80

      9 years ago

      Why would either side do this?

      Reply
  2. adshadbolt

    9 years ago

    Aj reed, forest Whitley and teoscar Hernandez for miggy and 30 mil

    Reply
    • phillies012tg

      9 years ago

      Look at what it took for Houston to get Giles. It will take a lot more then that for miggy I would have to assume

      Reply
    • southi

      9 years ago

      IF the Tigers were going to go for a full rebuild (which I think they won’t) then you might could get by with some guys like Whitley who are further away. But your package would be still woefully short I’d imagine.

      I think you’d be looking for something along the lines of Reed, Paulino, Fisher, Martes, Moran, and McCurry. IF the Tigers would deal him it will hurt the team that trades for Miggy (I mean you will likely groan about how much talent you had to give up). Just my guess.

      Notice I purposely left off guys that are crucial to the Astros 2017 plans out. I would imagine that the Tigers would start off wanting Bregman in the initial discussions.

      Reply
      • Whyamihere

        9 years ago

        Then discussions won’t go anywhere. There is a good chance that Miggy won’t produce enough upfront to even justify the money for his deal, and you want to give up 4 top 100s with 2 of those top 50ish for the chance to overpay him?

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        • southi

          9 years ago

          LOL no, I personally do not, but I was responding on what I thought it would likely take for the Astros to acquire Miggy (without giving up Bregman who is virtually considered by all as established). Even if I overshot the mark (which is very possible-which is why I specified ‘along the lines of’) my point was to show that IF a trade is made to acquire Cabrera then likely that the acquiring team’s fanbase will rue the cost that was given to obtain his services. Even with that said however there is no reason to think that Cabrera couldn’t continue to produce outstanding numbers for a few seasons at the 1b/dh slot.

          Reply
  3. astrosfan06

    9 years ago

    as long as its minor league talent and not bregman or springer, i say bet the farm make a deal. Miggy has been a top 5 hitter for oh say a billion years, ok maybe a million years.

    and I think i did not need to mention to correa or altuve, because im 99.9% sure they are untouchable unless……. mike trout comes available.

    Reply
    • phillies012tg

      9 years ago

      Even if trout is available I would have to say they remain untouchable. Everyone else should remain in fair play.

      Reply
      • Priggs89

        9 years ago

        If that’s the case, then the Astros are extremely dumb. Mike Trout is 25 years old and the best player in baseball. He’s also one of, if not the most, popular players in baseball. Despite what fans want to believe, baseball is a business, and money comes first. Having Trout on your team not only makes it better on the field, it also makes it a TON of money off the field. Would I trade both for Trout? No. But neither would be untouchable.

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        • phillies012tg

          9 years ago

          I certainly would imagine them trading the face of their franchise putting up MVP numbers (200 hits, 40 stolen bases, 20 gone runs and a consistent .300 batting average) or one of the brightest young shortstops in all of baseball. So I do see both of them as untouchable. I see a deal starting at Bregman and Reed and going from there. Just my opinion but I don’t see either being traded.

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        • connorreed

          9 years ago

          If Trout’s on the market I don’t think there’s anybody in baseball that’s really “untouchable”.

          But in reality, I think Correa and Altuve would be two untouchables.

          A deal centered on Bregman and Reed and complimented by a good haul of prospects (Martes, Cameron, K. Tucker, Moran, Paulino) would probably be a better offer than any other team would put up. Maybe Chicago could make a better offer if they were willing to move some young talent not named Kris Bryant (Russell, Schwarber, Baez, Hendricks, etc.).

          Reply
    • Dmalsch22

      9 years ago

      Not to familiar with the astros farm system so I’m not gonna say anything about what it would take but can you image miggy getting to play 81 games at minute made. 45-50 hr maybe? Assuming his production doesn’t drop off because of age which I think is hard to imagine it would. Still the best hitter in baseball

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      • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

        9 years ago

        Probably starts with Bergman and Martes then they add from there….

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        • Whyamihere

          9 years ago

          More likely they walk away from the table. Unless Detroit wants to take on most of his deal.

          Reply
  4. astrosfan06

    9 years ago

    your probably right.

    btw i have to ask was ken giles up and down in philly? this season was a little bit of a rollercoaster ride. it makes me miss Velasquez even more.

    Reply
    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      9 years ago

      No the reason they made that trade was because Giles was lights out.

      Reply
    • phillies012tg

      9 years ago

      Giles was dominant in philly. Wasn’t as homer prone as he seemed in Houston but adjusting to the new league and new team might have been a difficult transition for him. I don’t see him having the same year again. I think he will show the same flash of the Giles we saw in Philly again.

      Reply
  5. astrosfan06

    9 years ago

    i think he could 45+ HRs at MMP, especially now that they are bringing in the walls even closer in left center- center field. #ripTalsHill

    Reply
  6. cba93

    9 years ago

    Would take Bregman, Aj reed, and arms

    Reply
    • slider32

      9 years ago

      If the Tigers could get Bregman, Reed, Paulino, and Whitley they should make the move.

      Reply
      • brandons-3

        9 years ago

        That’s the kind package that would net Miggy along with Detroit paying an extremely “huuuuuuuge” amount of that contract. Even then, Houston doesn’t need salary relief as much as it needs more talent than they’d be giving up

        Reply
  7. Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

    9 years ago

    So in terms of Kendrick I’d like to see them go after Hernandez. Obviously it’s not a 1 for 1 but it fits both teams. Dodgers and Phillies match up well.

    Reply
  8. stonepie 3

    9 years ago

    miggy wouldnt have that much trade value. he’s going to be 34 next year as a 1st/DH and he’s going to make ~30 million a year til 2023, when he’s 40. he’s about a 4ish win player now and likely heading into the decline part of his career.. 30 million a year is worth about 4 wins on the open market so he’s barely worth it now let alone down the road

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    • jakem59

      9 years ago

      His WAR has been hovering around five (save for his three monster years it was hovering around 7) for the better part of a decade, that’s not quite a “4ish” WAR player on the decline, he’s still arguably the best overall hitter in the AL, possibly in all of baseball and moving him to a DH role could help him extend his career. I mean the guy is only 33, and this isn’t the 1980’s where being older than 32 was a death sentence.

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      • brandons-3

        9 years ago

        Yeah, I don’t foresee his bat declining too much as he transitions to a full time DH. He and Pujols have been the best bats this century.

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        • Whyamihere

          9 years ago

          Pujols isn’t worth near his contract now. Miggy won’t in a few years either. I don’t think he had as much value as some people here think.

          Reply
  9. AndThisGameBelongsToMySanDiegoPadres

    9 years ago

    Ahem, excuse me? But if the Astros weren’t willing to take Miggy and his contract for nothing in return, why would they want to give up Jose Altuve for him?

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    • greiunfioewfm

      9 years ago

      Altuve would be part of a sales pitch to try convince Miggy to wave his no-trade clause, not part of a package to the Tigers.

      Reply
      • RunDMC

        9 years ago

        Shouldn’t the sales pitch to a team that has stated they want to shed payroll and get younger start with: We’ll take your 33-year-old 1B/DH and his $200 million contract off your hands…?

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        • Whyamihere

          9 years ago

          They have to convince Miggy to approve the trade.

          Reply
        • Mr Pike

          9 years ago

          You are ignoring the revenue he generates.

          Reply
  10. greiunfioewfm

    9 years ago

    Rays aren’t trading Longoria unless a team blows the doors off in an offer, and at the price tag the Rays have on him no team would pull the trigger.

    Both at the Trade Deadline and now, every rumor about Evan Longoria being traded has been started by Jon Morosi, and every single time it’s been him thinking “the Rays *should* trade Evan Longoria”, and I’m pretty sure at this point he’s just making things up for clicks. There’s never been any other indication the Rays are shopping him, and just last week our beat writer said the team has no interest in trading Longo.

    The team still plans on contending next season, and there’s no way they replace Longoria’s production at his price. He’s not going anywhere.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      9 years ago

      Just to play devils advocate he’s 13 days into the beginning of the year before he obtains his 10-5 rights. The Rays constantly have to replenish because of their financial constraints. For the 10-5 rights, weak market it is a deep sellers market. Obviously they are going to say they aren’t trading him to reup season season ticket market, but as FA market develops and East teams make their moves they might change stance. Especially seeing as a WC might be out of reach.

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      • therealryan

        9 years ago

        I’m a Rays fan who would hate to see Longo traded, but think now is the time. I’m just not so sure the Dodgers should pursue him. I think they would be better off resigning Turner and then looking to trade for Logan Forsythe from the Rays. He’s a 3-4 win player on a great 2 year contract, so he won’t be cheap, but the Dodgers farm is deep and talented.

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        • Cam

          9 years ago

          Now is absolutely the time to trade him. He’s settled in as a low-OBP guy with decent pop (highest OBP in the last 3 years is .328, which is relatively poor). And there’s no indication that he’s going to get back to prior levels.

          He’s now in the :”being paid to make up for his underpaid years” portion.

          Good player but, the bottom will fall out of his value in the next couple of years – strike now.

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        • southi

          9 years ago

          Over the last few months I’ve had the fear that the Braves would go all in and deal for Longoria and Odorizzi. Although the pair would likely provide good improvement over many other options I can’t get over the likely price in talent it would require nor the fact that Longoria is under contract a LONG time and as mentioned above he has very poor OBP numbers (in other words I’m afraid of a decline from a player who has been inconsistent through the years). I’m really hoping that Coppy doesn’t bite, but I have to think that the Rays are shopping Longoria at least.

          Reply
  11. astrosfan06

    9 years ago

    well whatever happens, it seems this offseason might get pretty interesting for some teams.

    Reply
  12. ccremer2

    9 years ago

    Everyday I read something different on McCann. One day it’s “McCann trade highly unlikely” the next is “McCann most likely won’t start the season with the Yankees”. I feel like Cashman wants to move him but he’s unsure if his value. If he can get a MLB rotation level starter that’s all I’d ask.

    Reply
    • MatthewBaltimore23

      9 years ago

      I know, right!

      Reply
    • slider32

      9 years ago

      Cashman tested the market on McCann at the deadline so I think he knows the market,

      Reply
  13. stymeedone

    9 years ago

    I love it when writers try to down play a player’s ability. Saying Miggy is limited to 1B or DH is unnecessary, (and possibly untrue as he could play some 3B). What 1B isn’t limited ? I don’t see Adrian Gonzalez playing much SS, but that doesn’t mean his value is limited. What other positions does Goldschmidt play? Teams tend to have HIT first players at 1B. Because they can HIT they have value. If you want to just say his age and contract are factors in what his value is, I will agree with you.

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    • Cam

      9 years ago

      I don’t see any scenario where Miggy is trusted to handle a 3B glove, other than in an absolute late inning pinch.

      I get what you’re saying about “being limited” though. 1B’s are generally limited to 1B full stop, for reasons including what you’ve said. This gets overlooked when that 1B is competent defensively – Goldy, Rizzo types. But yeah, even the good gloves are technically limited to that position – as it’s the bottom end of the defensive spectrum.

      Could look at it as being an interesting way of reflecting on the fact that, once upon a time, Miggy WASN’T limited to 1B. Rather than just looking at today, taking into account what he once was.

      Reply
  14. radioball123

    9 years ago

    Miguel Cabrera to the Sox would be so crazy insane!

    Reply
  15. aff10

    9 years ago

    I really think everyone here is overvaluing Cabrera. He’s an elite hitter, and I expect him to continue to be one for 3 or 4 years, but that contract is insane. If Miggy were a free agent today, there’s no way that he gets 7/212 with a NTC. If Detroit needs to shed salary, then they should be all over Whitley and a couple lottery tickets for Miggy and $50 million. Even that is probably an overpay for Houston

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    • JT19

      9 years ago

      Most front offices know that when they are giving out a big contract, they are paying for the probably half the length of the contract and expecting regression later on. As you admitted, Miggy will probably continue to be a good hitter for 3-4 years and if that is the belief, his contract would not be that big of a issue. No team is going to take less on a trade just because one team said “Well, by the end of his contract, he probably won’t be producing at the same level, so why don’t I give you a couple of lottery tickets in exchange for your star player who is going to continue playing well for a couple of years.”

      Reply
      • aff10

        9 years ago

        I understand your point, and if Detroit is under no mandate to dump massive payroll this offseason, then I don’t expect them to sell him for an underwhelming package. That said, I think the modern front office is devaluing bat-only players and players on the wrong side of 30, so I don’t see any way that they give up elite young talent like Bregman/Martes as was suggested (although I personally think Martes is a bit overrated as a prospect, but still) to also take a contract back that no one would give Cabrera if he were a free agent this offseason.

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        • aff10

          9 years ago

          In short, I don’t think he’s traded unless the Tigers are so far in the red that they feel that they have to move some of his salary for a package that’s not commensurate with his current production

          Reply
  16. Diablo 2

    9 years ago

    Trade for Hernandez! Please Halos! Then all we would need is a catcher (Hundley) and SP (Weaver and Nova) and pen arms (Melancon and Cecil or Furbush)

    Reply
  17. cuscus85

    9 years ago

    Could the Rays really get a King’s Ransom for trading Longoria? Just between his contract amount and length.

    Reply
    • therealryan

      9 years ago

      Everybody’s definition of a kings ransom will be different, but Longoria is a 4 win player on a contract that pays him for less than 2 wins. Even accounting for decline as he ages, there is a decent amount of surplus value there.

      Reply
  18. comebacktrail28

    9 years ago

    So the Astros should give up Bergman and Springer for Miggy when they can sign EE for a 1st round pick

    Reply
  19. motherpucker

    9 years ago

    If the Marlins would shop Yelich as well I’m sure the Cards would bite. The starting pitching talent Miami wants is there in St. Louis and they have a solid history of working together on deals. Yelich’s defensive versatility with CF/LF would be a great compliment to Grichuk. Only problem might be the left-handed bat

    Reply
    • Chris Koch

      9 years ago

      If the Marlins shopped Yelich to Stl, I’d have to ask for Carlos Martinez and Luke Weaver.

      Reply

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