The Giants have traded righty Chris Heston to the Mariners, FOX Sports’ Jon Morosi tweets. The Giants will receive a player to be named in return, according to FanRag’s Jon Heyman (on Twitter). Morosi had previously tweeted that the two teams were discussing a deal involving Heston.
The Giants were hoping to trade Heston by tonight, Alex Pavlovic of the Mercury News wrote (Twitter links). They had planned to designate Heston for assignment to open a roster spot for incoming closer Mark Melancon when Melancon’s deal became official later today. By trading Heston, they will at least receive a prospect in return. ESPN’s Jerry Crasnick tweeted earlier today that the Giants were shopping Heston.
The 28-year-old Heston had an effective season in the Giants rotation in 2015, posting a 3.95 ERA, 7.1 K/9, 3.2 BB/9 and a robust 53.0 GB% over 177 2/3 innings. He began the 2016 season in the bullpen, however, and was eventually optioned to Triple-A Sacramento, where he posted a somewhat disappointing 4.54 ERA, 5.9 K/9 and 3.5 BB/9 over 81 1/3 innings while also dealing with an oblique injury. He has less than two years of service time and has an option remaining, so he figures to provide the Mariners with a controllable starter.
Wow I wonder who I will guess Luis liberato
YANKEES PLEASE GET ON HIM. He’s an innings eater who got hurt last year and could be a great addition to the depleted rotation. We need at least 1 SP addition before seasons start
I wonder if the Marlins might be the team. I think he’ll be a good addition for them.
They’re my first guess pretty much any time a not top tier SP is involved. Then I remember their prospect pool is pretty slim but keep them as my guess anyway.
Dipoto gonna overpay for Heston.
I swear no one reads the actual details of the story. Clearly says the Mariners are the team…
I was thinking Twins??
Bc they update the story as it gets more details…they commented when the team was not yet known. Get off your 3-story horse.
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Do they get Seth Smith for him? I really know who the Mariners would give for him.
Probably a low level prospect with decent upside. I’m assuming this is just a way to clear a roster spot
Makes way too much sense to actually happen.
Ugh, not a fan of this with the #5 starter still being such a question mark. I love Matt Cain for all that he’s done, but I don’t think anyone expects him make it through a full season or be that effective. Suarez or Blach could work out, but if they’re just getting a prospecs, it would have been good to at least give Heston another look this season and make a call at the deadline.
I 100% agree with you, what if Cain doesn’t work out? let heston and blach compete for the 5th spot
Giants have several young options in the minors with more upside than Heston. Beede being first on the list.
This is very true, but he at least has experience and had a decent rookie campaign. It just seems like it would have made more sense to give him another look and have a guy that has seen some success around when the 5 spot inevitably breaks down, instead of immediately hoping for the best out of a younger arm…the devil you know and whatnot. Especially when they moved him for a player to be named that won’t help the team anytime soon, if at all. I suppose the need for a roster spot and also to get more younger guys pitching in AAA makes it a bit of a tough spot, but it’s a big gamble on a clear area of need.
Drew Jackson maybe? From the Bay Area and originally drafted by the Giants before college.
Hahahahaha yeah. Totally.
Hahahahahaha
No way the Mariners give up their number 3 prospect coming into 2016
Wasn’t aware he was that high. I doubt Heston would even bring back a top 10 prospect
Top 10 talent is relative to the depth of the org. The Yankees top 10 or top 3 is vastly different to the M’s. Drew Jackson hasn’t shown up with the bat yet. His glove could stick at SS.
Doesn’t change the fact that he probably couldn’t bring back a top 10 organizational prospect lol
His bat took a step back this season, but to say it hasn’t shown up “yet” is wrong. Look at his 2015 production is short season-A.
Please Dipoto, if it’s an overpay walk away. Tired of seeing the Mariners overpaying for guys that only fill a depth role or to replace another player who doesn’t necessarily need to be replaced.
Who did he overpay for? Just curious who you are talking about, not questioning you.
Dipoto over pays for everyone he trades for.
Don’t be a hater since you got stuck with Moreno’s overpays on Pujols/Hamilton and old school Scioscia as manager.
I’m sure will disagree with me but:
1) I thought the Segura trade was an overpay since the D’Backs were obviously selling high, Segura was not consistent before his season with the D’Backs so while he could easily continue his good play he could just as easily revert to norm, and SS was not (in my opinion) that big of a hole that Marte needed to be replaced.
2) He overpaid, in my opinion, for Wade Miley. Even taking into consideration Carson Smith’s injury, trading Miley less than half a season later shows it was a bad trade.
3) I was not a fan of the Nate Karns trade, another case of some team “selling high” to the Mariners.
4) This is more of an undersell, but the Trumbo for Clevenger deal now looks terrible. I’m not even taking into consideration of Trumbo’s monster season, but the fact that they were only able to get a backup C (who barely played anyway) was a definite undersell.
1) Desperate for a leadoff hitter and have about a 2 year window, plus Walker hasn’t put it together and Marte has zero patience and plate discipline. Definitely a sell-high move but easy to part with those two guys.
2) Yes
3) To me, I don’t think this was as much an overpay as it was just disappointing to give up on Brad Miller that quickly.
4) I get the argument, but even with his 2015 second half I don’t think he would’ve replicated his stats this past year if he were a Mariner. But Clevenger is trash so yeah, doesn’t look great in hindsight.
I’m not even that upset about trading Miller. Liked him, but I thought the overpay was Farquhar, especially since he was one of the few bright spots for the bullpen the year prior to his trade (although he was coming off a terrible year). And Karns was another “buy high” guy.
And I completely agree that Trumbo would not have replicated the numbers this past year if he were in Seattle, I just thought they could’ve gotten something a little better (whether that be a really young lottery ticket prospect thrown in or replace Clevenger for a slightly better, but still not that good of a player).
Well Segura is a great ball player, played amazing with Brewers then his 10 month old passed away and he struggles for a season and a half after that then traded to Arizona and played great again, he’s a great player who went through a tragedy and struggled like most anyone would. Trumbo is a strikeout machine and low OBP guy, that’s why Dipoto traded him, also Unathletic and poor defender. Wade Miley turned into Miranda so like that trade all in all, and Karns could still work out, pitching is a necessity an tough to find, Walker had potential but lacked focus and consistency, Marte had lots of issues but could still be great just not a starting SS for a contender to rely on right now
Wade Miley
Good piece to acquire for depth/competition by the Mariners and would give them more options to move a guy like Karns in a package. Sounds like whomever the Giants get will be a non rostered prospect or prospects so they can get Melancon on the roster.
no not Heston!!
Braves!
Idk why everyone is so against Heston. Had a great season his first year in the bigs. Still pretty young. And we’re not gonna give a top prospect for him. Could develop into a #3 kind of guy. He certainly showed he’s capable in his rookie season
Id agree that the Giants should hold onto him
if they can fill a hole by tading him it makes sense, as far as #3+ position starters , waiting in the wings are blackburn, blach, stratton, beede and suarez who has been the long man who can start if necessary. If one or more of those guys emerge (blach looked pretty nice last year), then dealing from your surplus makes total sense.
If blach does what he did last year, I think everyone else in the NL west is going to be very sad.
What you see if what you get with Heston, assuming he returns to health and consistency. Not much upside there, and he did tail off badly in the second half of 2015. Matt Cain and Tyler Blach are ahead of him in the pecking order (and I assume Blach wins the #5 spot in ST), the Giants need a 40-man roster spot… They’re not going to get much in return for him, but he’d be a good shout for a #5 starter for many teams.
Mariners trade: Tom Wilhelmsen, James Jones, Patrick Kivlehan
Rangers trade: Leonys Martin and Anthony Bass
Same season, the Mariners re-acquire Wilhelmsen and Kivlehan after the Rangers dumped both players.
Win Dipoto
Mariners trade: Mike Montgomery
Cubs trade: Dan Vogelbach and Paul Blackburn(then traded for Danny Valencia)
Win Dipoto
Not ALL are bad. Some I have considered as an overpay, but then again, he wants to win with his guys, and we nearly made the playoffs last year. So I’m not one to start griping. So far the guy has made progress. I’ll wait and see what 2017 looks like before I start to criticize his moves.
Well depending on what we gave up, we might get another Win for Dipoto. I’m guessing it’s for Boog Powell or Ryan Yarbrough.
I don’t see Yarbrough going anywhere yet, not for Heston. Yarbrough may be better than Heston right now. Powell could be a piece. Someone said something about Smith. Does he fit a platoon with Williamson or a 4th OF spot? What are the Giants needs? That could make sense of a Mariner rumor for Trumbo if they have a deal in place for Seth Smith.
Another win? When was the last time we “won”?
He traded 5 years of Carson Smith and Elias for half of a terrible season of Wade Miley, traded Walker and Marte to get Segura when the pitching market is awful and we could have just gotten someone like Cozart and let Marte develop in the minors for a year. Then, he traded our former 21 year old draft pick in Jackson for a couple of minor league pitchers that won’t contribute this year.
I don’t think he has won a trade in awhile. This is a minor one.
M’s received Ariel Miranda for Miley. He has a shot at the 5 spot, more likely long with spot starts. One of the reasons Smith wad traded was fear of injury due to his violent mechanics.
Segura trade is a big time gamble. It will could define Dipoto’s as GM of the M’s.
Then he went and traded Miley for Miranda who has plenty of control left and was a pretty good pitcher for us down the stretch. I think I would still prefer to have Smith (Elias is just organizational depth at this point) as he has more upside but I think he needs to change his delivery to stay healthy. Meanwhile Miranda is probably a #4/5 type of starter.
I actually really liked both the Segura trade and what he got for Jackson. I like that he is not fixated on a players potential but acquires players that have shown results.
Marte and Walker have both been really inconsistent with the M’s. At some point you have to give up on the potential as it won’t come around. Now hopefully Walker/Marte will become good players but I just don’t think it would have happened with the M’s. I really like Segura and Haniger (I think he can win an outfield spot coming out of spring training).
Also Jackson has under performed and there are numerous reports stating a bad work ethic. I think he got decent value in the two pitchers he acquired. One is a #5/AAAA depth type but the other can develop into a #3 type of pitcher.
Don’t think it would be smith. Heston was about to be DFA’d…
Exactly right. No way it’s Smith.
The post said “All” not in awhile, not yesterday, “All” or “ALWAYS OVERPAYS”. Which that is the premise of the post.
Or just give him away for peanuts apparently.
How about Seth Smith as the PTBNL ?
First of all if they’re trying to clear a roster spot they won’t trade them someone on the 40 man roster, they will get a young prospect. I always remember him as the guy who threw a no hitter
Then again, Heston deserves more big league playing time and he likely won’t get much on the Giants.
This is correct. Heston was at least third if not much deeper on the depth chart for #5 starter. At least he’ll have a better opportunity in Seattle. Hopefully they’ll get a reasonable prospect for him.
Another guy who will come to Seattle, be a non factor, get traded at the deadline for peanuts, and then win a Cy Young or World Series…