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NL Notes: CarGo, Phillies, Stearns, Brewers, Ross

By Mark Polishuk | January 8, 2017 at 1:53pm CDT

The Rockies still want to extend Carlos Gonzalez’s contract, GM Jeff Bridich tells ESPN.com’s Jim Bowden.  The two sides “are still far apart on a deal but they’re working on it,” Bowden writes, and Gonzalez is also believed to have interest in staying in Colorado.  This isn’t the first time we’ve heard rumblings about an extension between Gonzalez and the Rockies this winter, though as of last month, the club hadn’t yet extended a formal offer.  Here’s more from around the National League…

  • In an interview with Bowden and Jim Duquette on MLB Network Radio on SiriusXM (Twitter link), Phillies president Andy MacPhail said his team’s next move is to try and add a left-handed hitter.  The Phils are known to be looking for another bat, with such lefty swingers as Brandon Moss, Michael Saunders and Jay Bruce mentioned as potential candidates.
  • The Brewers are still looking for relief pitching, GM David Stearns tells Tom Haudricourt of the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, exploring trade opportunities and both major league or minor league signings.  When asked if Milwaukee was favoring trades over signings (or vice versa), Stearns said “I don’t know that we have a firm preference. We have to explore all avenues.”  Stearns also noted that the Brewers are “active on a number of fronts” in regards to adding position players, though he also felt generally comfortable with the team’s pre-existing mix of everyday players and relievers.
  • Recent reports have cited the Nationals as one of the teams in pursuit of Tyson Ross, and they may have a recruiter on hand in Joe Ross, Tyson’s younger brother.  “I’ve been trying to get him over here,” Joe tells Jorge Castillo of the Washington Post, joking that Tyson “can come here as long as he doesn’t take my job.”  As Castillo notes, the younger Ross doesn’t appear to be in any danger of losing his rotation job following two solid seasons in the bigs, and Ross said he is feeling healthy after missing time last year due to shoulder soreness.
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  1. Brixton

    8 years ago

    Phillies should try to move Joseph then just add Moss to play 1B

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    • BillGiles

      8 years ago

      Why?

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      • pukelit

        8 years ago

        Joseph has potential to be better than moss and he’s way younger

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        • Brixton

          8 years ago

          Joseph is a stopgag for Hoskins, who is awful defensively, doesnt have OBP skills and cant run. He had like a 35 HR pace last year and didnt even reach 1 WAR, not to mention he was DHing in rookieball for part of 2015 because he was bad.
          Sell high on him, add a lefty who wont murder you defensively and then Hoskins

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        • prich

          8 years ago

          Hoskins is a terrible fielder as well. Joesph doesn’t have the best value and right handed power is not in demand. You keep joesph and make Hoskins beat him out for a job in September.

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        • rsmlbtr

          8 years ago

          Joseph has only been playing first base for one full season his defense will only improve. Beyond defense Joseph had a better year in 2016 then Moss, even hit better against right handed pitching. Plus if you try to sell high on him other teams are going to pretend they aren’t convinced that his concussions wont come back, Plus Hoskins has questionable defense as well if he is the future at first let him beat out Joseph, don’t promise it to him now..

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    • Travis’ Wood

      8 years ago

      That would be beyond dumb

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    • reflect

      8 years ago

      Or they can just sign moss and then move moss…

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      • lesterdnightfly

        8 years ago

        What, and let no Moss grow under their feet?

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    • DannyQ3913

      8 years ago

      Hahahahaha

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  2. mcdusty31

    8 years ago

    Kind of surprised that the Rockies would be looking to extend CarGo…seems like it might be a smarter move for them to try and move him to help stock up their young talent…IMO they’re the 3rd best team in the NL West being the Dodgers and Giants and would either need to sign Trumbo and a starter or two and go for it, or look to trade some of their aging vets to restock the farm

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    • mcdusty31

      8 years ago

      Also, I think it’s a huge fail if Desmond ends up as their starting 1B

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      • Dock_Elvis

        8 years ago

        I’ll agree on Desmond playing 1B, but I’m not sure they need Trumbos contract. Carter on a one year deal makes more sense. I just dont buy that they are done. If so..its more that they couldn’t get things done.

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    • BillGiles

      8 years ago

      I’d like the Phillies to try and get Jordan Patterson from the Rockies

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    • ottomatic

      8 years ago

      Couldn’t agree more

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    • Steven P.

      8 years ago

      I’m surprised the Rockies aren’t in on Quintana. They really could use pitching and bullpen help

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      • kbarr888

        8 years ago

        Rockies have a tough time getting young, quality SP FA’s to sign there….so they SHOULD be trying to trade for him. The WS are asking for a boatload of talent for him, so the package would probably have to start with Blackmon, then add Rogers or McMahon, plus another prospect or two.

        Pitchers hate it there, because there’s nothing like an extreme “Hitter’s Park” to kill a pitcher’s “next contract” because of the terrible stats that they acquire while in Colorado.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          I actually like Chris Archer better at Coors because of his K rate.

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        • IBFarr

          8 years ago

          Agree completely, it would just take a lot to have him

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        • aceofrainbows

          8 years ago

          Why would the White Sox want Blackmon? A 2 year deal, and by the time they’re ready to contend he will be gone. The sox want prospects

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          Rodgers is a Top 5 prospect…and they deal Blackmon. Rodgers is probably every bit the prospect of Austin Meadows and at a premium position. Im not saying Rockies and Sox should sync up on that…but you were talking Blackmon when in most deals Rodgers would be the centerpiece. This would be like the Pirates dealing McCutchen with Meadows as the secondary. Rockies farm sure seems to go under the radar.

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    • Phillies2017

      8 years ago

      Bridich has no clue what hes doing.

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  3. krasher55

    8 years ago

    Just a thought. I think the Rockies should sign Trumbo to play first, move Desmond to center, and trade Blackmon to the Mets for Steven Matz and/or Seth Lugo. Although the Mets may not do that, Blackmon has become an elite center fielder. He can hit for power, has a high OPS, and can steal 30-40 bags a year. He’s also great defensively and is in his prime if I’m not mistaken. So what if the Mets give up a pitcher or two. They still have Syndergaard, DeGrom, Harvey, Wheeler, Gsellman, etc. which is still solid. Honestly I think Blackmon for Matz straight up would be a good enough deal but there would probably be more players involved.

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    • Chrysostom

      8 years ago

      Blackmon had 4.4 WAR last year. Trumbo and Desmond combined were only worth 4.3! I get that they need pitching but I don’t think they will be contenders without Blackmon. The Desmond signing made no sense and they should have gone for Trumbo or Carter instead but trading away Blackmon would only make it worse.

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      • kbarr888

        8 years ago

        They could still sign Carter (that’s a better option….similar stats…………Way less $$$), and they could just move GParra instead of Blackmon. They won’t get much, but they could use Desmond as a super-utility guy. Still need pitching……

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    • Dock_Elvis

      8 years ago

      Any real prospect deal needs to go into trading for a frontline starter…Matz isnt really any better than their own pitching prospects.

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      • lesterdnightfly

        8 years ago

        Matz has an injury situation, and Lugo is unproven. That would be a bad trade for Colorado. Blackmon is worth a lot more than either, or both.

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      • hojostache

        8 years ago

        Matz has a lower projected ERA (3.32) than anyone on the Rockies’ staff….including Gray. As for injury risk, he most recently had a bone spur, one of the most common issues w MLB pitchers. Between the minors and majors, he has started in 24, 25, 22 games for the past 3 seasons, he isn’t a start/yr grinder, but he has a career 3.16ERA in the majors and 2.24ERA in the minors, the latter including a hitter’s paradise AAA league.

        As for Blackmon…he’s the kind of player the Mets should consider moving Matz for bc you need to give up talent to get talent. I think Matz is a high price to pay, but it’s necessary bc CF is such a premium position now.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          Matz having a lower projected era than anyone on the Rockies staff isnt a shock…the Rockies pitch a mile in the air. The Rockies have a string of young arms on the way. If they are dealing for a starter…it needs to be an established frontline guy. I’d sign a 1B….free Desmond to move anywhere and give myself options to package for that starter. Several options out there…..Gray and Axford from Oakland….maybe Chris Archer….Quintana….depends on what they want to cash out…..if Rodgers is in the deal, etc.

          I dont dislike Matz…I just think they go big game hunting is all.

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        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          Gray and Matz are projected for the same fwar. I’m not sure looking at projected era for a pitcher who pitches in coors and one that pitches in citi is a great way to compare the two.

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        • mcdusty31

          8 years ago

          Not sure his projected ERA stats that low if he was pitching half his game at Coors

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  4. Nola Di Bari 67

    8 years ago

    What were his home/road splits? Citi Field far from the bandbox that Coors plays as.

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    • baileydogg

      8 years ago

      Home .335 avg 12hr, 15 doubles, 47 RBI
      away .313 avg 17hr, 20 doubles, 35 RBI

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    • helton17

      8 years ago

      Last year I believe Blackmon actually had slightly better stats on the road than at home similar to Arenado’s 2015 season. Although in 2016 Arenado’s splits became a little more pronounced so it’s fair to assume the same would happen to Blackmon this year

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    • jorleeduf

      8 years ago

      Coors doesn’t have an effect anymore, not since 2001, when they added moisturizers.

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      • Dock_Elvis

        8 years ago

        I don’t believe thats true. Even if their typical pitching staffs exaggerate it even further. Im guessing someone responds with some analysis on it as well

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      • Dock_Elvis

        8 years ago

        You also have to factor in the park size…lack of drag on the ball pitched and put in play…and one of the best batting eyes in baseball. Not to mention any potential psychological intangible advantage involved. They used to average over 13 runs a game…down to 11 now…thats STILL a great hitters park

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        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          “It’s the No. 1 run-scoring environment in baseball, but not merely due to the distance a baseball travels at the mile-high altitude (a common misconception). Coors’ expansive outfield, creating the largest amount of fair territory in baseball, results in the game’s best venue for hits of all kinds (1.247 factor) and second-best for extra-base hits (1.298), and the offensive benefits are mostly balanced for rightes and lefties.”

          espn.com/fantasy/baseball/story/_/page/mlbdk2k16_p…

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          And there it is.

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      • mcdusty31

        8 years ago

        Scented or unscented?

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        • mcdusty31

          8 years ago

          All jokes aside, they really added moisturizers? I missed that story, how funny

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        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          I’m assuming he means that they began storing the baseballs in a humidor

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          Yeah. I knew what they were talking about….I try not to be jerky to people in responses…thanks for the espn coors link

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        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          i was responding to mcdusty. i think that poster meant humidor when he said moisturizer

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          Chesterarthur…oh ok…hard to tell with the way comments are presented on my phone.

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        • mcdusty31

          8 years ago

          Oh yeah I knew about the humidor…thought there was some other weird story I hadn’t heard…I’m sure their pitchers use plenty of moisturizer as well so they don’t get dried out

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          Nice pointless down voting

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        • chesteraarthur

          8 years ago

          it’s not just your phone, the comment section on this site is rather poor.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          The old format would send me an email notification when I received specific responses to my comments. Learned the hard way that the new system notifies when ANY comments are made….not fun when there 168 comments…now i have to troll through the sections looking for response….doesnt help my old icon was deleted and i cant figure out how to re-download it. I tried the app…and it was even more indecipherable. I used to know commenters by their icon..made it quick and easy.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          Intriguing story idea….Moisturizers of the big leagues? Does Colorado go aloe vera or honey and cream?

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  5. genghishahn

    8 years ago

    How about White Sox closer D Rob for some of the Milwaukee Brewer surplus outfield prospects (looking at Corey Ray, Trent Clark) they are still a ways away and leaves the Brewers with two OF prospects as well as 3B prospect (2016 draft pick) Lucas Erceg..

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    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      Robertson isn’t worth a ton, let alone a top 100 prospect, and why would the Brewers want 2 expensive years of an okay-not-good closer?

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      • genghishahn

        8 years ago

        Since the Brewers are looking for relief help, what do you think they would be willing to trade if the WS picked up some of Drobs contract?

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        • BarrelMan

          8 years ago

          Scooter Gennett or Matt Garza.

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        • hojostache

          8 years ago

          Not much. I think he has 2yr/$25m, and has pitched to a 3.47ERA and 1.36WHIP. He fell off from his solid 2011-2014 run with the Yankees where he was mostly <3ERA and hung around 1-1.1WHIP. I think he can still play well wherever he pitches, I just don't expect to see a top 50-100 prospect get moved for him.

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    • baseballdeez

      8 years ago

      Brewers aren’t trading Ray (Top 50) or Clark (Top 100) for a closer with 2yrs of control while not competing for a playoff spot during those years. They have young, controllable internal options in Barnes, Knebel plus Magnifico was their closer in AA/AAA past 2yrs hitting 97-100 on the gun. They don’t necessarily need a closer but they definitely need a vet pen arm

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    • BarrelMan

      8 years ago

      Definitely not.

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  6. comebacktrail28

    8 years ago

    The Rockies and White Sox match up so good as Trade partners ……. Quintana and Abreu are good Fits for the Rockies

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    • jakem59

      8 years ago

      Quintana would be in for a rough transition in Coors. The guy lives on hard contact and fly balls with a low K and groundball rate. That type of pitcher spells doom in Colorado.

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  7. dtwb93

    8 years ago

    Rockies are the White Sox last year. Just good enough to finish in the middle. Cargo should be traded. But if they extend him for a decent deal he would be more valuable to trade. Desmond made no sense.

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    • Dock_Elvis

      8 years ago

      I believe you’re wrong….Rockies actually have prospects. They are a darkhorse wild card team…and if they maybe add a 1b…trade for a frontline starter they could do very well.

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      • hojostache

        8 years ago

        They have some prospects, though I’m not sure they are a WC team. LAD/SF, WAS/NYM, CHI/STL…all better clubs. WC will prob be 89-92 wins. I just don’t see it from COL, not nearly enough pitching.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          Why I called them a darkhorse. IF their young pitching can muster league average stats…they are dangerous. Lots of ifs…but add a 1B and frontline starter…they are competitive. Im not sure St Louis is better than Pittsburgh in 2017 actually…especially if they land Quintana. Theyve sat on their hands.

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        • Dock_Elvis

          8 years ago

          My point really was that the Rockies are not the White Sox last year…that shows lack of knowledge of their organization. White Sox system was bone dry.

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  8. bw22

    8 years ago

    Wasn’t there chatter of Cargo eventually playing some 1b? Maybe him and Desmond swap positions if Cargo shows he can handle it in spring training?

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    • Dock_Elvis

      8 years ago

      Maybe thats the stall on Colorado getting a 1B? If they do lock CarGo back up they need to eventually think about moving him to 1B.

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    • mcdusty31

      8 years ago

      Makes sense

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