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Marlins Notes: Bullpen, Shifts, Ozuna, Prado

By Steve Adams | April 17, 2017 at 2:33pm CDT

The Marlins are off to a strong 7-5 start to the season and are currently sporting the game’s fifth-best run differential (+12). Here’s the latest out of South Beach…

  • Ken Rosenthal of FOX Sports covers a couple of Marlins topics in his latest notes post. While the team is off to a good start to the year, Rosenthal points out that Miami has six relief pitchers on pace to throw more than 85 innings in 2017. Even though that’s deliberate in some ways, as the Marlins stocked up on ’pen depth when recognizing how difficult it’d be to beef up their rotation, Rosenthal suggests Marlins starters are going need to pitch deeper into games in order for the team’s run to be more sustainable. To add some further context to Rosenthal’s point, only two relievers in baseball reached 85 innings last year: Brad Hand and Erasmo Ramirez. While strategically stockpiling quality relievers certainly has some merit on paper, Marlins starters have thrown just 60 1/3 innings through 12 games. Asking any group of relievers to throw as many as three to four innings on a near-nightly basis seems unrealistic, even if the group is largely comprised of quality arms (as is the case in Miami).
  • Rosenthal also spoke to Marlins president of baseball operations Michael Hill about the team’s increased number of infield shifts in 2017. As Rosenthal points out, the Marlins have shifted nearly as many times in 12 games this year as they did in all of 2016 (per STATS, LLC). Hill explains to Rosenthal that the primary difference in 2017 is that the team is more aggressively shifting infielders to the opposite side of the second base bag. Moving defenders but keeping them on their designated side of the infield isn’t designated as a technical “shift” in STATS’ record-keeping. “We had numerous shifts (previously) where the shortstop/second baseman shaded up the middle, but didn’t cross the bag,” says Hill. “In an effort to be more thorough and get more outs, our data suggested we shade to the other side.”
  • Yahoo’s Jeff Passan observes that the Marlins could find themselves in position to cash in a huge return on outfielder Marcell Ozuna if they’re not contending this summer. The 26-year-old Ozuna is rocking a Herculean .404/.453/.745 batting line through his first 53 plate appearances, and while that’ll fall once his .438 BABIP corrects itself, Ozuna has seemingly taken a step forward in the power department. If the Marlins aren’t contending, they’ll have a decision to make on Ozuna, who would have two and a half years of team control remaining. Miami has virtually no chance of working out an extension with the Scott Boras client, in Passan’s estimation, so dealing him could be a means of injecting a much-needed wave of quality young talent into the team’s minor league ranks. Then again, if Miami is still flirting with the NL East lead and/or a Wild Card spot, it may be a moot point, as Ozuna would be considered a key contributor to a postseason pursuit.
  • The Marlins are expected to reinstate third baseman Martin Prado from the disabled list prior to tonight’s game against the Mariners, reports MLB.com’s Joe Frisaro. The return of Prado will be a welcome addition for the Fish, as he’s fresh off a .305/.359/.417 batting line compiled over the life of 153 games last season. The 33-year-old suffered a strained hamstring while playing for Venezuela during the World Baseball Classic but recently wrapped up a four-game rehab stint with Miami’s Class-A Advanced affiliate in the Florida State League.
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  1. metseventually 2

    9 years ago

    Also the Marlins always play the Mets well- they’ll fall back to earth very hard.

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    • mikeyank55

      9 years ago

      That’s Mets’ speak for, “we blew it. Hitters came up empty. Bullpen is a huge weakness.”

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      • metseventually 2

        9 years ago

        What smart fan doesn’t say that? Also, look at the numbers of the Marlins against the Mets the last 4 years. You’ve gotta be the dumbest person on here.

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  2. timyanks

    9 years ago

    what makes writers think his babip will fall? does the quality or your writing of articles correct itself?

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    • Kayrall

      9 years ago

      I suggest that you develop at least a basic understanding of babip, its tendencies, and what it measures before commenting on it.

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      • lesterdnightfly

        9 years ago

        The poor quality of slide’s comments never corrects itself.

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        • timyanks

          9 years ago

          i liked it. i feel good about it. i’ll keep doing it.

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        • lesterdnightfly

          9 years ago

          Proof that ignorance is bliss….

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        • timyanks

          9 years ago

          thanks tester, just being consistent

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      • timyanks

        9 years ago

        with that logic, no records would ever be broken

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    • jdgoat

      9 years ago

      Since its way above average

      Reply
  3. reflect

    9 years ago

    The Marlins actually could lock up Ozuna, since they are selling the team anyway. It wouldn’t be Loria’s liability.

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  4. cxcx

    9 years ago

    Does anyone know where I could look up stats on relief innings pitched by team? I thought the idea in the post that it is far-fetched to expect a bullpen to pitch 3 innings per game might not make much sense (ie I suspect some bullpens last year pitched 3+ innings per game) but I was not able to find such a stat anywhere, looked on -reference and fangraphs.

    Anyone know where I could find this stat?

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    • cxcx

      9 years ago

      Well I just looked up the Nationals pitching stats from last year and they pitched right around 485 innings in relief, so 3 IP per game. And this is from a team known for having elite starters and a suspect bullpen.

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      • tharrie0820

        9 years ago

        Near nightly basis is the key phrase for that

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    • reflect

      9 years ago

      Fangraphs, team pitching stats. There’s a tab for relievers.

      You can adjust for extra innings by looking at the IP for starters instead, and subtracting it from 9. That would tell you whether a teams bullpen is overworked due to luck (extra inning games) or talent (early exits by starters).

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  5. TheAdrianBeltre

    9 years ago

    Well Steve, these Marlins notes sure got folks worked up…

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  6. bravesfan88

    9 years ago

    The writer is simply suggesting what anyone would suggest that covers baseball. Statistics, in small sample sizes, whether unusually high or low, will ultimately gravitate towards the mean.

    That’s like saying Ender Inciarte who has 4 HR’s right now, will end up hitting 40 HR’s by the end of the year…Is it possible?? Yeah, it is possible, but the more plausible answer would be that his HR totals will gravitate down closer to his average production.

    No one is knocking Ozuna, nor his great start he is having, but the facts are his BABIP is pretty unsustainable. Then, once his BABIP lowers, his other stats will lower as well. Not saying his batting line will fall of a cliff, but it will ultimately decrease back closer to his average production.

    Although, it is possible he has figured some things out, and he will continue to hit for more power this year, and if so good for him and the Marlins..

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    • biasisrelitive

      9 years ago

      I think he will be better but not that good for sure

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  7. bravesfan88

    9 years ago

    4 innings per game from any bullpen is clearly unsustainable, and it is murder on their collective arms. The Marlins are either going to have their starters go further into games, or they are going to overwork their bullpen guys at a record setting pace…

    But, it is early, and taking into account early pitching limits, etc. the numbers should even themselves out over the next month or so..But good lord if those numbers stay the same, they are going to ruin the guys in their pen…

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