Reliever Brad Hand is the most sought-after trade chip the Padres have had since A.J. Preller took over as their general manager in 2014, reports AJ Cassavell of MLB.com. “Half the league or more” has called about Hand, a team source told Cassavell, which helps explain the Padres’ reportedly high asking price for the southpaw. San Diego feels as though it’s justified in seeking a significant return for Hand, per Cassavell, as the 27-year-old has been among the majors’ top relievers since breaking out last season and comes with affordable control through the 2019 campaign.
- One of Hand’s teammates, second baseman/third baseman Yangervis Solarte, is also a trade candidate, but Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune doesn’t expect the Padres to move him. Rumors connecting Solarte to other clubs have mostly been speculative, tweets Lin, who notes that the 30-year-old’s injury status seems to decrease the likelihood of a trade. He has been out for over a month with a strained oblique, and a return doesn’t look imminent as the July 31 trade deadline approaches. The switch-hitting Solarte hasn’t taken right-handed batting practice yet, which could change this weekend, and will still need to go on a rehab assignment after that happens.
- Rangers GM Jon Daniels told reporters Saturday that he’s unsure whether the 46-50 club will buy over the next week-plus. If they do, though, Daniels indicated that the Rangers will seek controllable starting pitching, per Evan Grant of the Dallas Morning News (on Twitter). Everyone wants controllable starting pitching, so that’s not surprising, but it’s clear Texas needs it more than a lot of other teams do. After all, three members of the Rangers’ rotation – Yu Darvish, Andrew Cashner and Tyson Ross – are scheduled to become free agents after the season.
- A couple of injury updates on the Dodgers, courtesy of J.P. Hoornstra of the Southern California News Group (Twitter links): First baseman Adrian Gonzalez should return before Sept. 1, but outfielder Andre Ethier likely won’t. Back problems have been ruinous to both veterans this year – Gonzalez has been out since early June, and Ethier hasn’t played at all.
Ethier is trash.
When he was healthy he actually was solid. Its not like they need him anyways
He was good when McCourt was the owner. You could also get front row loge for $40.00 a seat too.
Wow! What a jerk thing to say! He’s not trash, but an injured player! Grow up!
He wouldn’t have broken his leg if he hadn’t kicked that tractor.
Agree 100%
Kinda sick of the it’s gonna take a package of Kershaw, Trout, Harper, Machado, n several blue chip prospects to acquire Hand…..por favor!
its not going to be cheap.
1 top 100 guy + some other meh stuff probably is the price it ends up being
I laughed
lol that’s good
but you forget Jansen and eating all the players salary
And Panda is eating all the ice cream in SF
He’s going to bring back one top 100 prospect at the very least. The only people who propose crazy trade packages like that come from other fanbases on this site.
Brad hand !
I remember back in June when mlbtraderumors posted an article about interest dimisihing regarding Hand….and then he goes on a 15.1 scoreless streak allowing 12 hits striking out 20. He’s been doiminant pretty much all year.
Can face lefties righties, go multiple innings, and is cheaply controlled this year and next 2 years.
Preller will get a haul for Hand.
Let’s be real here and think about what you’re realistically gonna get compare to the yanks sox trade for drob kahnle and Frazier they got b Rutherford clarkin toto polo and clippard
So 1 top 50 prospect a 15-20 and two other throw ins to balance cash/clear 40 mans space. People expecting hand to get more than that package are just crazy maybe one top 100 prospect could do it in the 80-100 range and a 15-25 range prospect from and average farm
Will Smith got a top 100 prospect, Brad Hand can get a top 100 prospect.
1. Robertson is making 12 mill, has 1 more year at 13 mill, Frazier is a rental. Robertsons price with Kahnle is about what the padres will get for hand.
2. 1 top 100 and 1 or 2 in the 10-20 range is what itll cost.
Oh here we go with the “haul” stuff. A top 100 closer to the bottom and a mid range prospect or two gets him. That is not what I call a “haul”
Considering he was DFA by the Marlins, claimed, and the Padres are going to get a top 100 prospect and 1 or 2 guys in the 10-20 range. Thats a haul considering what they got him for.
Also, closer to the top so 70-100? Thats fine,
Fedde is #70, Sheffield #73, Calhoun is #74, Groome is #87, and Chavis is #96. So theres talent at the back half.
Willie Calhoun and 1 or 2 of their pitching prospects for Brad Hand to the Dodgers would be a good deal for the Padres. Someone like Oaks and/or May.
Preller won’t get haul for anything it’s payback time
Brain dead
Brad Hand, Brad Hand top prospect ha
Call Red Sox right?
Short bus
Troll
Should call you troll for life
Not really. He’s not going to get an Andrew Miller-type package, but he’s still going to get something good.
Payback still no significant trade since suspension and now getting squeezed
No significant trade…..who needs to be traded?
The significant pieces are controlled long term lol.
And their trade targets- Hand, Buchter, Torres, Yates, Solarte all have multiple years of team control lol.
Chacin, Stammen, Richard, Cahill are the only pieces that need to be traded.
More like nobody wants to trade with Preller cause he can actually can find talent where you least expect it.
Fernando Tatis Jr- just somebody they got for Shields and his contract really nobody other than a top prospect who’s 18. Nobody the white sox would want.
Carlos Asuaje- yeah just a small piece to the kimbrel trade when Margot Guerra and Allen were the bulk pieces. Not like the Red Sox could use Asuajes .333/.337/.452 batting line at 3rd this year.
Josh Naylor- has blossomed since being traded for Cashner
Jose Torres- the other lefty that throws 95-97 in the Alonso Pomeranz deal.
Jose Pirela- just somebody the Padres got for Ronald Herrera- not like the Yankees could use his .296/.335/.500 line playing second and shifting castro to 3rd instead of Headly.
I’m sure I could find more examples, which youll bring up Turner for Myers when Turner is hurt atm or Grandal which are two trades compared to the 5 I mentioned and the ones I didnt mention.
So just save yourself the trouble and embarassment and move along.
No he’s not getting squeezed and what significant trades has he even had to make since the suspension?
Fernando Tatis was a good prospect and good trade but its not like the White Sox did not know that. The idea its someone the White Sox did not want and Preller jist found him is delisional. Tatis was the target and price. Main piece. Just because he was 17 and you never heard of him at the time does not make him a throw in
Naylor hasn’t played in bigs yet so let’s not throw bouquets yet.
Pirela can’t field.
Torres is great now?
Tatis Jr wasnt a “good prospect”.
He was an IFA who was in the high 20s ranking when he was signed for roughly 700k- 800k and hadnt played in the minors.
Was he a good international prospect- sure
Was he actually a “good prospect” in the traditional sense like farm system- no not even close.
google.com/amp/s/amp.mlb.com/134059696-white-sox-s…
Also, the fact they traded him, of all pieces they could have dealt, for James Shield and all that cash says they didnt value him as highly as you think. Im sure it wasnt tatis jr or bust for preller which means the white sox kept other pieces instead of trading them in a shields deal, pieces they valued more.
I’d say hand will get the Padres a top 50 prospect, and of course it will be depending on the organization acquiring him and their prospect depth, but most likely they will also get two of that team’s top 10-20 prospects…Unless it is someone like the White Sox or Braves, but they won’t be players anyways, for Hand…
So overall, in short, I could see Hand fetching 1 top 50 prospect, and 2 more B to B+ level, 10-15 prospects…
That’s what I think the most realistic outcome would be for a Hand trade…If you happen to think I’m wrong, please reply with your own thoughts…
I predict the Padres also think they are going to get this kind of package, hold out for it, and meanwhile all the buyers are going to go elsewhere. Theres still plenty of other good relief arms on the market. Its not as if Hand is a lock down closer.
Hand will still have good value in the offseason but right now is definitely his peak and the padres are dumb if they don’t move him for a realistic price.
They’d be lucky to get a top 100 prospect + a B prospect IMO.
Huh? He’s pitching even better than his ‘breakout’ season last year. He’s walking less people and striking out more. He has, at the time of writing this, went 15.1 straight innings without giving up a run. He’s 27, cheap and controllable for two more seasons. The Padres are going to get a very valuable prospect package and the other team will get a very good reliever.
Brad hand does not have the track record of Andrew Miller, but when you compare salaries and control, they are not that far off in value, and Miller gained Clint Frazier for the Yankees…..chapman gained them gleyber Torres, again his dominance was on another level but his control was for two months….regardless of all this, the padres are in perfect position to cash in hand for jackpot, and they have all leverage, because all they have to do is hold on to him past the deadline
How does holding onto him past the deadline increase their leverage?
They can trade him in the offseason or next year at the deadline because they control him for two more years after this, thus they can stick at their high asking price
The longer they hold onto him the less time he is pitching for a contending team and thus the less he is worth to that contending team. If they hold him they also risk that he doesnt slump in the 2nd half.
The only way I could see his value going up from what it is now is if the padres put him in as closer and prove that he can pickup saves. Otherwise his value is as high as its ever going to be right now.
Well suppose he does not pitch as well after the deadline coupled with one less year of control next year … then what … value goes down not up
Yeah the Beard is right. Hand’s value decreases significantly after the deadline IMO. Only way it goes up is if he goes on. Britton type streak to end the season and banking on that is nonsense.
I don’t necessarily disagree but just to play Devil’s Advocate here, two years ago people were saying the exact same thing about Craig Kimbrel: “Opposing GM’s already know what Craig Kimbrel is. If they aren’t going to give Preller what he wants for Kimbrel now, in the middle of a playoff race, they aren’t ever going to. And if Preller waits to trade him he’ll have less control which will negatively impact his trade value and he runs the risk of Kimbrel getting injured.” But Preller did hold out on trading Kimbrel and got a much better return for him that offseason than anything I heard he was offered at the deadline. So while this does seem like the best time to cash out on Hand, we really don’t know for sure.
That was before suspension Einstein
True but Kimbrel also had/has a large contract so waiting longer reduced the financial commitment to him and likely increased the prospect return. So it is a tad different IMO. But valid point.
You’re high on chromosomes
Uhm, no. Kimbrel was already signed for well below market value. No one who was interested in trading for him was worried about the financial commitment. There is simply no way waiting on him increased his trade value.
Miller didn’t really have much more of a track record than Hand, he was just better.
Oh. Ummm excuse me. Miller had a much better track record!
Kimbrel didn’t get more attention?
Brad Hand has a 2.16 ERA 1.02 WHIP ERA+ of 196 FIP 2.67 and 3 years of control.
Felipe Rivero has a 0.70 ERA 0.697 WHIP ERA+ of 621 FIP 2.20 and 5 years of control. Oh, and he throws 102 mph with 4 pitches.
The Pirates aren’t trading Rivero, but…for sake of argument, let’s say they were…given the context of the various reported asking prices for Brad Hand…what would Rivero cost?
Rivero is probably worth what Preller thinks Hand is worth.
No one would pay the price to land Rivero. Would take the following IMO:
– 1 prospect in the top 1-3
– 1 prospect in the top 4-7
– 1 prospect in the top 8-15
And 2+ teenage lottery tickets.
Obviously this depends on the farm system. The above is for a good top 15 system in the game. For teams with weaker systems it would take 3-4 top 10 prospects plus lottery tickets and maybe foreign signing pool money
So for the Nats you’re looking at:
Soto or Fedde, Kieboom, Garcia, Antuna, Watson.
At the time of the Melancon trade i thought the pirates got fleeched. Now its the nats who got destroyed
Yeah I didn’t love the trade for the Nats when it happened but now it’s obviously much worse. A prime example of why I don’t like trading for “top” rental relievers at the deadline…especially if Dusty is your manager and won’t use him in non-save situations with the season on the line.
I didn’t know who Rivero or Hearn were when the trade first went down, but as soon as read that they got two lefties who throw 100, one of whom was MLB ready and one was a lotto ticket with decent odds, I was very happy. Having Ray Searage means not caring if they haven’t put it all together yet.
The moron media and fans here said “SEE, this (trading the pending UFA Melancon while in psuedo contention) PROVES the Pirates don’t care about winning.”
Two months of Melancon for five years of Rivero. It might very well be the best trade in recent MLB memory, but the yinzers cite it as evidence that the team is clueless. Ironic. Yinzers don’t own mirrors.
People should stop making these generic prospect range guidelines that don’t translate and just give examples of possible trade packages from a few teams.
Cxcx why? People are talking value but just because you cant comprehend everyone has to start researching teams list and give you examples? You cant figure this out?
I did throw out what a possible package for Rivero would look like.
I feel like the Padres have backed themselves into a corner by setting the price so high where they have to move Hand and other teams know they’ll have to lower the price to do it.
Based on all these reports, if they hold onto him its going to look like it’s Preller’s fault for setting the price way too high. The last thing they want in that front office is a Tyson Ross 2.0 situation where they could have traded a guy at peak value and then squandered the opportunity
Tyson Ross was just bad luck. He suffered a freak injury that set him back for the season, which nobody anticipated. Plus, the ownership was still interested in competing in 2016, so Preller was under some constraints.
Preller is holding out since his moves have been disastrous and now trying to show he is not 1/2 wit
Preller is a joke of a GM
Not as bad as DD
He is the worst GM in baseball.
He is a bosox fan
Blow Sox
Red Sox will fail
Fans always giving Preller pass how about 83 mil for Myers hitting .213 this month with 4 runs batted in
RBI’s are a garbage stat to use to evaluate a player and you’re cherry picking numbers to fit your narrative. He hit .310 in April with 20 RBI, was this a great deal then? Its a 6 year deal, whether its a good deal or not hinges on how he produces from 2019-2022 when he’s in his age 27-31 seasons because its a backloaded deal.
Right now he’s leading the team in OPS and he’s the only guy on the team with one above .800 which is a way bigger problem. 6 years 83M isn’t some absurd amount anymore. On the open FA market, you can expect to pay about 8M for 1 WAR so if he’s worth more than ~10 WAR over the next 6 years this ends up being a fair, market value deal. I’m not saying its an amazing contract, but its clearly not a very bad one either.
This fan does not…I lit Dennis Lin up this week when he said Myers has a good contract! When he gets $22M a year….awful. He is dumb…makes silly base running mistakes, does not hustle on hits, not a good first baseman, a .250 hitter who guesses all the time, not a clutch hitter…big hat/no cattle!
I think CNichols broke it down very well. It’s not some steal of a contract, but for what Myers is and what his potential is, it’s not like it’s some albatross. If his WAR equals out to about what this contract was worth, then it will be fine. The Padres needed him to be the “face” of the rebuild and the contract is the result of it. But you never know, maybe down the line he’ll have a great year and maybe even get traded for something.
You’re like 1/1000th of a wit. And that’s being generous.
Mark my words, Juan Soto will be the centerpiece of the Hand deal. The price fits, the partner fits, and Pads need more true hitters in our farm. He’d be an excellent long term LF option making a killer OF with Margot and Renfroe.
I won’t even attempt to speculate who else will be the add ins as Preller always surprises. I will say I’d guess projectable arms like Mills (I had Lazardo pegged before he got swooped).
Don’t see the Nats trading Soto for a reliever. Maybe in a Gray trade but not for Hand.
I hope you’re correct. I doubt it, however.
Have doubts now on Renfroe can’t field batting .200
Cant field, but top 5 in outfield assists with that cannon for an arm. But you know cant field. Do you ever get tired of being wrong?
9 errors
9 errors…..most from over throwing after an out is made or he retrieved the ball not actually fielding.
Catches ball (fielding), throws it to 3rd or home, over throws (error).
You’re just looking at random stats and dont know context do you? That’s adorable.
What? He also leads RF with 9 errors (next is 4!) and is dead last in fielding pct. -1.0 dwar too. He needs to get his shit together, clean up his fielding, and start getting on base more. He occasional bomb doesn’t mean much when your OBP is .284.
Alex has brain unlike others
By others you mean yourself?
Slow on the driveway
Do you even watch the games lol! Terrible take.
Outfield assists lol
He’s Dwight Evans lol
I’ll grant you he’s been awful this year defensively, but by all accounts he was above average in the minors so I’m not sure what’s going on there. Its still his rookie year so if going forward he can cut down on the errors and take some better routes he could still be an above average RF even with his low OBP. His BB/K ratio has always been a mess, the name of the game with him is SLG% and solid D, and this year he’s slugging ok but the D is just not acceptable.
I think he’s a bit like Myers, the pressure on him to be a “star” was enormous, and he’s trying too hard as a result.
Next season, the expectations will be lower, and he will be much improved.
I agree, I’m willing to give Renfroe a pass since it’s his rookie year and he’s still learning. His defense has been awful, but maybe with time he’ll be able to make the adjustments. As for his batting, everyone knew what he was going to bring to the table (high strikeouts, lots of power) so it shouldn’t be that surprising. But again, it’s his rookie year, so he needs to be given time to develop.
Myers and Renfroe have 2 different “pressure” if you want to use that excuse . 1 has 83 mil contract trying to live up to bashing bad pitching but useless against good
Hand would be a good fit for dodgers, but it is unlikely the padres would give him up to the most dominant team in their division without one of their top prospects(beuhler, verdugo, Alvarez, Calhoun).
Preller sitting at kids table while adults make trades
hurrrrrr da durrrrrrrr
*fart noises*
Hand, Hand, Preller GM of Year!