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NL West Notes: CarGo, Chacin, Duplantier

By Mark Polishuk | August 6, 2017 at 7:18pm CDT

The Rockies offered Carlos Gonzalez a new four-year deal during extension talks last spring, USA Today’s Bob Nightengale reports.  The two sides explored an extension for the long-time Colorado outfielder during the offseason, though talks never seemed to get too far — this four-year proposal is the only known offer exchanged, apart from some “initial suggestions” from Rockies management that were rejected out of hand by Gonzalez’s representatives in early December.  Gonzalez said that he and the team hadn’t engaged in serious talks as of last February 22, and negotiations were reportedly “on hold” as of early March.  The dollar value of the offer isn’t known (Nightengale describes it as “lucrative”), though the fact that Colorado was willing to offer four years to a player who will be 32 next Opening Day is in itself significant, especially since the Rockies have several other interesting outfielders on their big league roster and in the minors.  The lack of an extension looms large for Gonzalez in the wake of his disappointing 2017 season — he has suffered through two DL stints and is batting a career-worst .228/.299/.345 over 365 plate appearances.

(Apart from the Gonzalez item, Nightengale’s piece focuses on how several of baseball’s biggest names are dealing with the extra pressure facing them as they approach free agency.  The piece includes quotes from Jake Arrieta, J.D. Martinez, John Lackey and more, and is well worth a full read.)

Here’s more from around the NL West…

  • Jhoulys Chacin has expressed openness to re-signing with the Padres this winter, Dennis Lin of the San Diego Union-Tribune writes.  Chacin has posted good results after signing a one-year, $1.75MM deal with the Padres last winter, and it isn’t surprising that the righty would like to stay at Petco Park — Chacin has a 1.86 ERA over 12 home starts (77.1 IP) this year, as opposed to a 7.35 ERA over 10 starts (49 IP) on the road.  Those large splits were one reason, Lin notes, why the Padres may not have been able to move Chacin before the deadline, though Lin was surprised the team couldn’t have found at least one suitor willing to part with more than a token prospect.
  • The Diamondbacks received some interest in minor league right-hander Jon Duplantier prior to the trade deadline, Fangraphs’ David Laurila reports.  The 23-year-old Duplantier, a third-round pick for Arizona in the 2016 draft, has a 1.53 ERA, 10/1 K/9 and 4.25 K/BB rate over 106 combined innings at the high-A and A-ball levels this season.  MLB.com ranks Duplantier as the second-best prospect in Arizona’s system, citing his “power curve,” solid changeup and fastball in the 91-96 mph range, though the righty has also already had some shoulder and elbow issues early in his career.  A source with another club tells Laurila that the D’Backs put a high asking price on Duplantier in trade talks.
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  1. TheChanceyColborn

    8 years ago

    I don’t understand Colorado’s strategy if they re-sign CarGo. the outfield would be Blackmon, Dahl, CarGo. Where does Tapia go? And when do you get to see what other prospects like Patterson have to offer?

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      Well to be fair they did say that they haven’t held extension talks since essentially ST.

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    • davidcoonce74

      8 years ago

      Well, the point is probably moot now. Cargo has been terrible this year and probably ends up elsewhere.

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      • Caseys Partner

        8 years ago

        “probably ends up elsewhere”

        Long Island Ducks

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    • kbarr888

      8 years ago

      I’m floored that the Rockies didn’t seem to even TRY to trade him at the Deadline. I guess they’re going to be happy if he declines the QO and they get a draft pick……..?

      ….or maybe they’re hoping that he ACCEPTS the QO…???

      Either way…..I just don’t understand the methodology.

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      • connorreed

        8 years ago

        They probably did and were probably hung up on every time.

        1. He’s 31
        2. He has a long history of injuries
        3. He’s a negative value defender
        4. He’s awful this year (.228/.298/.343)
        5. He’s even worse outside of Denver this year (.194/.260/.279)
        6. He’s not cheap (making $20 million this year)
        7. There’s no demand for corner outfielders (see the return for JD Martinez)

        The Nationals got Howie Kendrick (who’s owed less money, is hitting 345/.397/.470, and can play LF/RF/2B/3B/1B) for an 18th round draft pick.

        San Diego got Matt Szczur (who’s playing far better than CarGo this year, is younger with another year of control, and making a fraction of the money) for a 26 year old relief pitcher who’s never seen the majors and is struggling at AA.

        The Diamondbacks got JD Martinez (who has an OPS over 1.000) for three minor leaguers that don’t even crack the Top 10 for Detroit (which had one of the worst farm systems in baseball to begin with).

        The Rockies would have had to eat most of CarGo’s salary, and even then they would have gotten a career minor leaguer.

        I highly doubt they offer him a QO. But if they do, he’s coming back to Colorado, because no team in baseball would lose a draft pick for him.

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  2. minoso9

    8 years ago

    Cargo has had a rough year and chases too many bad pitches. But he is still a threat at the plate and has an excellent throwing arm. However it seems Parra, Blackmon, Dahl, Tapia, and possibly Desmond may all have an edge over him. Parra will win the N.L. batting average title.

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      There’s no way Parra wins the batting tittle he’d need to average 5.25 PAs playing the next 48 games. It could be doable but 25 of their remaining games are not in Coors. If he were to take the 0 for 100+ PAs he’s missing to catch up he’d be hitting .234.

      On the other note though corner OFs who slug and don’t play plus plus defense have been really devalued. If the Rockies want a reunion they can probably sign him to a 1 year 3-5M contract in the offseason.

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    • BiiiigBayAreaGuy

      8 years ago

      I hate to pick on the least relevant piece of your post but I doubt parra will have enough PAs to win the batting title and I doubt his batting average will stay high enough to make up for his lack of PAs

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    • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

      8 years ago

      I don’t want to be that guy. Fact remains he’s 100+PAs away from contending for the batting title. If you were to 0 for 100plus he’s hitting .234. In order to qualify he’d have to average 5.25 PAs over the last 48 games. That’d be somewhat plausible, not likely, if he was an everyday guy who had the final 48 games remaining at Coors, but…

      On the other aspect Cargo’s strengths have somewhat been mitigated. His skill set has been devalued. He’s not a plus plus defensive player. So if they wanted reunite, he’d probably cost them somewhere in the realm of 3-5M on a 1 year pact.

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      • MaverickDodger

        8 years ago

        3-5M? Holliday got 10M from Yanks didn’t he. Albeit with a better year entering free agency but older at the time. With CarGos track record of power and promise I would think 8M would be a one year contract floor.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          8 years ago

          He quite possibly could, but then again you look at need for a corner OF it’s not really going to be there and then you also have to consider Martinez, Bruce, Granderson, Cabrera etc will also be on the market. Cain will probably score the biggest contract. It’s going to be interesting, especially with the offensive explosion we’ve seen over the last couple years, guys who are trending the wrong way defensively while also over the peak of their prime just aren’t considered as valuable.

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        • MaverickDodger

          8 years ago

          I like your response. The need for power OF bats is in decline. That proof was at the deadline when JD went for what amounts to 3 PowerBall tickets. With that said I was surprised to learn Jay Bruce is the youngest next to JD. Ill have to remember this topic come the offseason. There’s little debate that JD will be the target of any team looking for an OF upgrade

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    • Caseys Partner

      8 years ago

      Tapia is a much better player than Cargo.

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  3. DodgerFan4Life

    8 years ago

    I thought there were four teams in the NL West

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  4. tpad

    8 years ago

    Some team will give him a 2 year deal with a club option with a base salary that is very cheap but loaded with incentives so there is no risk. Realistically, CarGo will have no leverage in contract negotiations, he’s going to take whatever he can get.

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