3:19pm: Gurriel will not appeal the suspension, the MLBPA announced (Twitter link).
3:06pm: Manfred has confirmed Nightengale’s report, announcing that Gurriel will be suspended without pay for the Astros’ first five games next year. The commissioner told McCullough and other reporters that suspending Gurriel for any of the World Series would have been “unfair” to the rest of the Astros’ players (Twitter link). The Astros will donate Gurriel’s forfeited salary to charity, and he’ll undergo offseason sensitivity training, J.P. Hoornstra of the Southern California News Group tweets. “Based on my conversation (with Gurriel) he understood both the language and the gesture were offensive,” Manfred said.
2:52pm: The league will not suspend Gurriel for any of the World Series, according to Bob Nightengale of USA Today. Instead, Gurriel will serve a five-game ban in 2018. The MLBPA “fought hard” on Gurriel’s behalf, Nightengale adds (on Twitter).
8:27am: Thanks in part to first baseman Yuli Gurriel, the Astros earned a 5-3 victory over the Dodgers on Friday to take a 2-1 lead in the World Series. Gurriel racked up two hits, including a solo home run off Dodgers right-hander Yu Darvish, in one of the most important wins in Astros history, but his racist gesture aimed at Darvish has overshadowed his performance.
Shortly after the game ended, Tyler Kepner of the New York Times reported on Twitter that Major League Baseball will interview Gurriel on Saturday about the gesture, which the 33-year-old made in the Astros’ dugout after his second-inning homer (video via Deadspin). Kepner added that the league will consider disciplining Gurriel.
Gurriel did express remorse after the game, telling David Waldstein of the New York Times and other reporters, “I want to apologize to [Darvish] and tell him I did not mean to offend him.”
Darvish, meanwhile, took Gurriel’s actions in stride, saying: “He made a mistake. He’ll learn from it. We’re all human beings” (Twitter links via Andy McCullough of the Los Angeles Times). He then issued a more extensive statement on Twitter.
“What he had done today isn’t right,” Darvish tweeted. “But I believe we should put our effort into learning rather than to accuse him. If we can take something from this, that is a giant step for mankind.”
While Darvish has handled the situation as gracefully as possible, commissioner Rob Manfred might not be as forgiving toward Gurriel. Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic, Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports and Jon Heyman of FanRag argue that Manfred should hand Gurriel a one-game suspension, but ESPN’s Buster Olney notes that he likely wouldn’t have to sit out at all during the World Series because of the appeals process (Twitter link). That would take the teeth out of a potential ban, then, though it still wouldn’t be surprising to see Manfred issue one. After all, the league gave two-game suspensions during the regular season to both Blue Jays center fielder Kevin Pillar and Athletics outfielder Matt Joyce for using anti-gay slurs. The stakes are obviously much higher for the Astros now than they were for either the Jays or A’s then, which sets up Manfred to make one of the most difficult decisions of his two-plus-year tenure atop MLB, Rosenthal observes.
Regardless of Gurriel’s status, the Astros will attempt to move one win closer to a title on Saturday.
Could? More like should and during the series.
Then he would just appeal it. And there’s no chance the players union would stand by quietly if Manfred said he couldn’t appeal. That sets a dangerous precedent
A very well handled situation by MLB. Instead of caving to the politically correct police, The league came to a strong consensus and acted accordingly.
Remorse has been expressed for an unfortunate and inappropriate action, and yet The mindset of victimization was not overindulged by any involved.
“politically correct police”? just to play “what if”…what if it was a racial gesture towards blacks/whites/latinos? would the astros part ways with him to distance the organization (albeit to not have a loss of revenue)? would any of the groups that stand up for displays such as this say anything? of course! it’s just another example of how asians and racist perceptions and assumptions run rampant with no “voice” for them. it’s been MANY years.
oh and Gurriel is 33. if anyone tries to use the excuse that he is “ignorant” of what he did was wrong…please…in this day and age and the mass amount of cultures connected, he has NO excuse.
the commish would have shown more if he DID suspend him for at least one game of the series to show just HOW important this matter was. you win and lose as a team in the bigs…that would show the world that what Gurriel did individually (whether with or without malicious intent), ultimately hurt his team. what good does suspending him 5 games NEXT year and docking his salary really do in the big picture???
nothing….
to the asians that have felt this and understand, it would mean NOTHING…and that nothing has really been done.
I saw it as a weak move. The easy thing would have been to brush it under the mat. Which is what Manfred got.
Can’t do that it’s unfair— dodgers fan?
MLB won’t do a thing, suspending him would hurt the Astros and the Astros are MLB lovely darlings and want them to win it all. MLB did nothing when Charlie Morton used an illegal substance while pitching in the ALCS and will probably allow him to continue using it in the world series
I sense some salt
…….and some sour grapes too.
Lots of cheese and whine on the table as well.
Yeah, pretty much sour grapes here from a Yanks fan. Not much Charlie could do by just touching his chewing gum. Not like putting Pine tar on is neck or anything.. where have I seen that before……….
Pretty sure they covered why it wasn’t illegal during the broadcast. Get rid of some of your salt
yanks choked. Get over it
lol, the Yankees pitchers had an extra 8 inches outside all series, just like they do in every playoff series, but sure make up something to get mad about how the Astros beat you despite the umpires being the pocket of the Yankees all series.
Jeremy Giambi was safe too, if we had replay the Jeter’s big moment of being bad at shortstop would have been seen for what it was – him being clueless on how to do anything but a jumpthrow 🙂
Yes yes, I know: “Reads the Fielding Bible once” lol
LOL, you clearly didn’t watch the series because the umpires gave the astros pitchers huge strike zones while squeezing yankee pitchers. They called a strike on Aaron hicks that was in the other batters box. Should have been ball 4 with bases loaded and no outs, that umpire changed the whole game.
I watched the entire Yankees and Astros series and it appeared at times that both plates were large. They didn’t squeeze the Yankee pitchers CC and Tanaka probably had the largest strike zones in the entire series. I didn’t have a horse in this race but have enjoyed watching the games. I would have to say overall the games have been umpires very well in all the series that I have watched.
I watched every pitch and the Astros got squeezed while the Yankees got that massive outside strike. I too had no dog in the race so as someone who just loves baseball, the umps were on their side.
Maybe “loves baseball….and hates the Yankees?”
It was a big strike zone–well reported on by unaligned media.
Yes for both sides
Now you are just coming off as whiny fan. I thought the strike zone for CC and Tanaka during the whole playoffs was ridiculous. If any team has the right to complain it’s Cleveland the strike zone against them was ridiculous.
Astros are sure painting against the Dodgers. No need to touch the Jeter comment because it shows your tic-tac-toe IQ….
You guys are crazy. Astros kept getting strike zones like this during the whole game:
(Top-3 Morton vs Frazier. A ball almost 6 inches off the plate was called a strike, and what should’ve been 1-1 count became 0-2, 0 outs, nobody on) Insignificant? -Ball 5.6 inches off plate was called strike!! Morton’s curveball was that good. (twitter.com/YankeesUmp/status/921900614208061440)
(Top-5 Morton vs Headley. 3.4 in from edge, called strike. What should’ve been 3-1 count became 2-2, in 1-0 game. Yankees had man on first and second, 2 outs!) Gardner would’ve been the next batter. Gardner #’s with the bases loaded last 3 years? 13 for 32 (.406) with 38 Runs and 31 RBI. This year? 6-for-12 (.500) Whole Career? 31 for 96 (.365) 51R, 83 RBI and the man’s been clutch in the playoffs when it counts. But we will never know, since that terrible call changed the whole AB and Headley grounded out. (twitter.com/YankeesUmp/status/921915052114038784 )
Very next inning… Astros draw blood in a game where runs were clearly going to be at a premium, scoring 3 Runs in the bottom of the 5th; the inning immediately following that HEADLEY NO CALL (5th) holding as the final score (4-0)
Am I saying Astros didn’t deserve it? No. The better team won, but let’s not act like Yanks were getting 8 inches whole series during critical moments. (Especially game 7!)
I am NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY from the Astros. Yankees couldn’t hit for ****. But please spare me the “Yanks kept getting 8 inch strike zones” nonsense GAME 7.
To his credit, Morton’s Curveball was GODLY, but there was no chance at WALKS during the game’s most CRITICAL MOMENTS, with HP Umpire Mark Carlson.
So why doesn’t CC try to “Steal strikes” same way Morton does? CC Sabathia doesn’t throw Curveballs. In the past 10 years (1/1/2007 – 10/28/2017) the Curveball has been CC’s least used pitch (3.32%) compared to Fourseam (36.33%) Slider (21.90%) Sinker (16.62%) Changeup(16.35%) and Cutter (5.48%) (brooksbaseball.net/tabs.php?player=282332&p_h…)
Past year (4/1/2016 – 10/28/2017) he threw 23 Curves (0.42%) Most used? Cutter: 1758 Cutters (31.82%) (brooksbaseball.net/tabs.php?player=282332&p_h…)
And even if CC threw curveballs more often, I doubt they’d be as good 😀
CC and Tanaka had as big of strike zones as anyone in the playoffs period go back and rewatch the games. The real issue was the strike zone that CC and Tanaka get in the Cleveland series the Yankees can’t complain about strike zones in the playoffs cmon man do you watch or did you see through Yankee colored glasses. Do you want some more wine with cheese?
illegal substance you mean the substance teams give their players in bucket fulls in the dug out yeah thats called gum lol
Yeah and you’re not supposed to be touching your gum before every pitch. that is a illegal substance on the ball.
You can go to your mouth in between each pitch as long as you are not on the rubber. Do you need a link to the MLB rules?
Said that above too. Also said above that it’s not like Charlie had pine tar smeared on his neck……..
What proof you have of this illegal substance?? Oh, what’s that, you don’t?? Well don’t you just seem silly then for posting that. How about you leave the baseball talk to the adults??
Lol
Oh yanks … boo hoo … want some tissue for your tears … Astros SPANKED the Yankees to get to the world series. You gonna keep crying …
Spanked ??? Did you watch the series ? The Yanks outscored them in the 7 games 22-20. Maybe you should check out a dictionary before you post next time.
SPANKED? I wouldn’t use that word myself, maybe eked or edged by actually! It was a good series though!
In other conspiracy theory news lizard men from outer space are secretly running the world. The fact you didn’t know this is proof.
Poor comparison.
Wahhhhhhhhhh
Who knew Gum was that powerful to help strike out the baby bombers?
They need to wait til next year to suspension him if they do it now it will change the competitive balance of the world series. He already apologized anyway what more do u want?
Given that the apology was crafted by the marketing department of the Astros, not Yuri with the wild hair, and clearly. designed to feign remorse and apology on behalf of one of their players who is excelling and necessary to their chase for the WS crown, more than a little half hearted.
All that crap about what is done and acceptable in Cuba….well this ain’t Cuba buddy.
And you don’t know diddly squat about how the apology was crafted. I think it was stupid to apologize for something that was strictly internal with his teammates.
Internal with his teammates yet broadcast to anybody in the world with a tv…brilliant.
In fairness you’re not dealing with a mental giant, polish hammer.
Yeh, which is why you have some many negative comments pal.
“Internal with his teammates”!!!
He knew that every move in the dugout was being broadcast in every detail possible to the viewing world.
If you wish, do it in the tunnel out of the viewing eyes, although it doesn’t make what he did right.
He is a victim of todays world.
So if a player says he hates Jewish and wishes they all burned in hell was said in the company of 5 non-Jewish teammates in the dugout (because it was NOT said ANYWHERE that Gurriel could ever consider “private”) then that’s ok? Because it was said out of the per view of the general public then it’s ok?
That is so far over the top it’s absolutely ridiculous. Not even close to being comparable situations.
No, he’s a victim of his own discrimination, poor judgment and stupidity.
then Gurriel is an even BIGGER moron not to remember that the cameras are on a guy after he hits a dinger all the way to the dugout and even a little more after. the only one who has risen above all this is Darvish.
“If we can take something from this, that is a giant step for mankind.”
The man apologized u can tell it was sincere and Mr darvish accepted the apology. Most of the people who want him r dodger fans.
Most people who want him suspended are people who know that racism isn’t tolerated and realize that his action was just plain rude. It’s not just dodger fans, buddy.
He made a joke it was in poor taste he apologized apology was accepted let’s move on for Christmas sake.
The PR department apologized, not Gurriel. If Gurriel was really that “remorseful” he most likely wouldn’t have done it in the first place.
You got it exactly right. Darvish said to move on and he was the one the joke was targeted at. Pull your self-righteous heads out.
@aidanvega123: word….
I hope he gets lynched.
OMG, pull your head out.
If they suspend him during this series, it sends the message that racist things like this are not and will not be tolerated.
If they wait till next year to suspend him, it sends the message that the World Series is more important than disciplining a player for an inappropriate racist action, which is not the kind of message Manfred can afford to send at this point in his tenure as commissioner.
Agreed! Sends a strong message about tolerance and not selective correctiveness in todays world.
Completely agree with you but we all know any suspension given will be appealed and most likely won’t be served until next year.
Yeah, he can just hire a lawyer and never serve the suspension, like certain Dallas Cowboy.
I agree 100%. There shouldn’t be any place in the game for this and MLB needs to send a very strong and clear message.
What a dumas. They cant suspend him during the Series. He would appeal, which is a right under the CBA, and he would play the rest of the series anyway. What they did was exactly the right call.
Dumas? I think he had one good year for the Phoenix Suns in the ’90s.
so he appeals and wins…can’t beat that…but the strong statement of the intended suspension would resonate and turn heads to understand more of how racism towards asians is still very much brushed aside and taken lightly.
oh…and for the ignorant responses from those who have no idea what i’m talking about…stop, listen and learn…please.
Discipline.
Ok putz they should give him a 2 day suspension next April huh? That will teach him?
Sorry he needs to get two games like now. That will teach the lesson!
Is 5 better?
Yu Darvish is a class act
Absolutely
agreed
He is. Even if he feels raw about it, he’s handling it with class.
Totally missed it ! What did he do ?
Never mind, I recall now….unacceptable !
Everybody missed it until some tweet freak posted it. It was in the dugout with his teammates not on the field. PC is killing this country
Oh, it was in the dugout amongst friends, that’s ok then….SMH
We get it Bill. You like to tell racist jokes when you think nobody is watching or listening and if someone overhears, it’s ok because you didn’t know they could see you.
I’m sure I know what the “N” stands for in Bill’s handle.
So what is your position here? Do you feel being racist is okay as long as it happens in private?
No Bill racism is, and always has been. Time to stomp it out. This is America, no one is better than anyone else because of their race, color, creed or gender. Supposedly. Because people like you think otherwise.
Ban him from the series!
-Dodger Fan
For life!
Lol ok. That would be pretty stupid
Boo hoo
so the catcher from the mariners spoke his mind and was banished from baseball.
Because he wasnt good enough to be outspoken
Fact.
Hella fact
Banished? Nah, he was a fringe player and fringe players generally shouldn’t become a PITA or they become ex-players.
If Josh Reddick did that there’d be no question that he’d get a suspension. Because white people are racist and they must be stopped.
But when Adam Jones calls baseball a “white man’s game”, the press just shrugs and everyone is supposed to forget it? You don’t achieve integration through segregation, remember that. What’s racist for one is racist for all.
Theres a difference between mentioning race in a discussion and basing it on the demographics that primarily go to baseball games in the north east
Vs
Directly making fun of the appearance of an entire race for no reason other than to be rude
All racism is wrong, but if you ever want to qualify a racist comment, plug a white guy into the scenario. Had a white player said basketball is a “black man’s sport” the white player would be called racist. The media is far too tolerant of black racists. It just sad that we’re even still talking about racists in 2017. Some people are gonna be racist and sexist and anti-this or that. As long as people are different in ANY way they’re going to be people who are critical. We just need to accept that as human nature and get on with our lives.
then its up to the league to determine what the media calls racism, vs what racism actually is, because we all know that those are different to a point, which in this case, the league did a fine job of.
A) Jones was right. Baseball is the only major sport in which white people make up the majority of the players
B) Racism is about power. When black people have all the power then we can talk.
Racism is about HATE, and anyone can HATE regardless of their supposed power.
Hockey?
Jones may have been right statistically, but if Dirk Nowitzki said that the NBA was a black man’s league or Tom Brady said the same about the NFL, they’d be suspended and forced to apologize. Jones has been a race-baiter since day one (i.e., his boo-hoo comment about someone yelling racist taunts from the bleachers at Fenway Park where he couldn’t possibly have heard them).. And “when black people have all the power” is pretty indicative of what the issue is. It’s not about equal rights. It’s about blacks wanting to take over in a country where they make up less than 13% of the population.
Have you ever heard of the NHL?
What Gurriel did was dumb, but this shouldn’t be a storyline for the World Series.
Yuli apologized. Yu accepted. Fine Yuli. Suspend him for opening day. Move on and enjoy the series.
Oh sure, an Astros fan wanting the bare minimum to be done, big surprise lol
He deserves minimum 1 game during this series, and if they want to make a big splash and an example out of him, the rest of the series.
Lifetime ban.
Oh sure a Dodger fan suggesting he misses the rest of the series. (See, it works both ways.)
Coming from a fan of neither team, suspend him 1 game. No more, no less. Baseball is a truly international game and that should be celebrated. And because of that, racist gestures of all kinds should be unacceptable.
But, we can say we don’t tolerate certain behavior and still be reasonable in the punishment. I firmly believe 1 game is enough.
Totally Agree^^^
As the fan of the game before being a fan of any one team, I second this emotion.
The basic ugliness aside, MLB is going to be at least as interested in maintaining the reputation of the game, not just in the U.S., but internationally. A player behaving this way on the game’s largest stage is just plain bad for business. The commissioner will be under a lot of pressure to do something meaningful, which means, while the series is in progress.
I’m a Justin Turner fan, but I agree, 1 game sets the example.
If you stopped talking about your team maybe we could focus on the real subject at hand, and that’s racism being swept under the rug. But it’s all about your Dodgers right?
We all have said or done stupid things in our lives. No reason to potentially alter a World Series over this. It’s not like he assaulted a fan or umpire. He looks like an idiot…enough.
Yes we have. But are apologies no longer acceptable in today’s society? Was he wrong? Of course. We have no way of knowing what’s in his heart. We don’t know the man. I won’t judge him on 5 seconds of his life.
If he is a racist, then a one game suspension isn’t going to change him. If it’s about showing other players this won’t be tolerated, fine.
I just have sneaking suspicion that most of America would accept an apology. Dodgers fans will insist on a suspension. And Astro fans would accept an apology.
And the league will probably suspend him a game, because that’s the easy way out. Maybe that’s right.
“If he is a racist, then a one game suspension isn’t going to change him.”
Nor will a 162 game ban, most likely.
A suspension would not be about changing one person, it would be about maintaining the integrity of the game.
I agree.
Oh sure he apologized so what? That is not enough. He did not even apologize. Someone wrote that for him. So then its ok to do this or other things? Then instead of suspensions players could just apologize?
With the haircut Gurriel has he really shouldn’t be making fun of anybody.
Maybe as an added punishment he should have to get his head shaved?
Maybe you should work on your logo. The Cleveland team should be banned from the league.
Unless they get permission from Native American groups like the Seminoles and the Blackhawks, teams should really consider getting rid of American Indian names and mascots.
This is what PC really is
PC really isn’t much of anything anymore but a pushbutton word. It is used today mostly to rationalize being rude.
Yeah, get the groups to give you permission like the Seminoles who don’t mind…so long as the cash keeps rolling in.
I don’t even mind the name (even though the Cleveland Spiders is way cooler), but just get rid of wahoo. It’s awful
So because he is an Indians fan he cannot comment and disagree with you because of the Indians logo? That is your response?
Gurriel is like 35, what he did is a thing an 22 year old -might- get a slap on the wrist for, but he absolutely knows better. He needs to be suspended for between 1-4 games.
I was thinking something similar, more like a thing kids do in 8th grade, not in their 30s.
You’re such an ageist
yeah, time really has no effect on how mature a man is – we get hundreds of examples thrown at us every day, in comments sections, smh
I would kind of prefer he not be suspended until the regular season. I’d hate to see the World Series compromised by a suspension.
Everyone is acting like Gurriel is the key piece of the Astros and they would lose the World Series if they lost him. He should be suspended one game during the series and the thing that got the Astros to the best record in the AL and to the WS is depth. They would still be competitive.
This is all coming from me as a lifelong Dodgers fan—I respect the Astros as an opponent. They will be fine and it will still be a very competitive series that will be worth watching, especially when the trash of an otherwise incredible series so far is taken out of it.
I agree, can’t Marwin Gonzalez play first put Gattis in left and Beltran dh? Still sounds like a potent lineup. Whatever happens happens. Let’s not let it cloud the series
You just know if he does get suspended, whoever replaces him on the roster will hit the game winning homer – this is how playoff baseball works lol
If he was suspended for a world series game, as he should have been, no one replaces him on the roster.
It looked like he just touched his head…his eyes are kind of squinty as is…I’m not condoning it if that’s what happened, but it honestly didn’t look like a racist gesture to me. But if that is what he did, then indefinitely suspend.
He uttered a word while he was “making that gesture”. It wasn’t an accident. It was a stupid mistake.
But sometimes, mistakes have consequences. This is one of those times. The League will be setting precedent with their action. I understand the “legal implications”……I understand both sides (Fans) and their emotional responses. But Society has to be consistent (and they have not been, up to this point). If he uttered the “N” word instead of the “C” word……all hell would have broken loose. They are the same infraction. They should be treated the same.
The World Series will be impacted now, regardless of the outcome. Either way, someone will be upset. Someone will shout “Foul”. If that’s true, they might as well “Do The Right Thing” ……show a firm hand that this will not be tolerated in the future. If the consequence isn’t sufficient to curtail future actions, then they have failed.
If the cost of a speeding ticket was less than a dollar, everyone would speed….No one would obey the speed limit signs. The fines are much more than that, and they don’t care Now!
I didn’t notice that he muttered something, I agree with everything. If he was mocking yu then suspend him. In my eyes when I saw it, it didn’t seem he was mocking him, even though I see how it could be perceived as so. In any capacity, he should be suspended
So he ‘apologized’ for something you don’t think he did yet everyone else does and he himself admits to doing? SMH…
It was an act of ignorance not political correctness. The entire world was watching and there should be no ignorance goes unpunished. He is a fully grown man and a professional athelete. As much as I hate to see an extra factor affecting the balance of the game, the MLB should ban Gurriel from playing at least 1 WS game to send a message to everyone, especially Gurriel, that what he did was wrong.
You really think the entire world was watching? 50%? 25%? 10%. I’ll guess lower.
All ignorance should be punished. Wow. Do you even know what ignorance means?
Bill N, political correctness is a term created by jerks as a substitute for the word empathy. What you are really saying is, “Empathy is killing our society.” What’s really killing our society are people who lack empathy and / or think someone who demonstrates empathy is lowly. Empathy is what makes us human. You should try it some time!
What is killing our society is that everyone gets a trophy!! Not supporting what Gurriel did, but the world is a nasty, unforgiving place. The far left and far right is killing America.
Long live the moderates and centrists
And what’s with all the name calling? Doesn’t everyone know that name calling is the last defense of an incompetent mind?
They are talking about the political correctness in society that is taking this too far. This situation though shouldn’t be tolerated. 1 game suspension
Exactly. Nailed it. Thank you for those words, socalsoxfan78.
Anyway, A’s McGwire and Canseco got away with a lots of stuffs. Did Larussa Knew? The league? You bet! They did nothing…
Completely different subject. Not that you’re wrong about that, you aren’t.
It’s just a very different issue.
Stuffs?
THERE IS NO CRYING IN BASEBALL. Let it be.
But there needs to be “Integrity” in Baseball.
Integrity in Baseball? Don’t you think that ship has sailed? And if MLB really cared about this stuff, the Indians would have a different logo.
But this story will get plenty of media attention. So, they’ll care this time.
And then you’d have nothing to post here over and over and over and over again in a thread that has nothing to do with them or their logo.
And the Indians logo is relevant to this story how? Explain please.
It’s pretty clear. Think real hard.
Tell that Wilma Flowers (Wilmer Flores)
Let’s see if MLB has any BALLS?
I am in minority most likely but here goes:
YG made racist gesture toward Darvish, he apologized, and Darvish accepted it. Why take it any further?
I agree. Things here in America seem to be amplified by the media and I’m tired of it.
Darvish himself accepted it, with an eye towards greater change. He said if we can overcome this we can be better as a people. But to overcome it, we need people to stop making fun of asian peoples eyes and perpetuating other stereotypes. Yu’s message was literally, this doesn’t matter but if we learn from it, it does.
And even though racism doesn’t affect everyone the same, and some people can take it on the chin, it does damage towards the whole group who is being targeted. If Yuli apologized and Yu said it’s ok, that validates millions watching the series and tells them that making racist gestures is ok. I have been called a terrorist before and though I’m not offended personally, even though it’s somehow widely accepted as a joke to have your white friends call you a terrorist, it validates ALL the stereotypes they want to throw your way. And the people who it really effects, i.e. every Muslim targeted in Trump’s travel ban, the recipients of DACA, and field workers who come from Mexico and happily fill jobs Americans will not do, are ultimately victimized by this complacency. Let’s just stop being racist and just be nice people maybe I know it’s crazy but it seems like it could work
Well said
Trump is a buffoon. Yet there is no difference from calling a white person the “C” word and an African American the one word that shall not be said
Caucasian is the actual word for the white race. The N word is not the actual word for black people, which is why you say African American. You just WISH you could say the N word without consequences
I just realized what you meant by the “C” word and let me just tell you what that “C” word is short for. Two words: whip cracker. Think about the history of the country you live in before you reveal your ignorance.
Because it matters. Apology was fake to avoid suspension. Are you that naive?
Well there you go, he got suspended and didn’t appeal.
I’ll get flamed and trolled for this as I usually am for telling it how it is and the truth. It’s messed yes. Punishment during the series isn’t necessary. Maybe a fine which goes to charity. Maybe he can donate to one of Darvish’ s foundations he sponsors. He didn’t seem thrilled by it but at the same time he didn’t seem that mad either.
You’re not getting trolled when people are telling you that the brewers have enough to get Jason freaking Kipnis
Yu Darvish is the man and I’m a huge fan of him after he defended the pitching coaches in Texas and spun this Gurriel incident into a positive narrative. What a great guy, I honestly have a reason to root for the Dodgers now rather than just being salty as an Angels fan that the Astros came into our division and destroyed us lol. Yu da man I hope we get a World Series championship here in California!
Sox should rescind their offer to Cora after this disgrace. Obviously this type of disrespectful and boorish behavior is acceptable in Houston’s clubhouse.
Do the letter F O mean anything to you
Front office?
Fantastic odor? Why thank you. I’ve been using a new conditioner.
Cora should not be blamed for this
Why not?
Dynamite everyone thinks you are an idiot. Stop talking and proving it!
What did he do? Can the liberal media not even say what is happening now? I shouldn’t have to search all over the Internet for this information.
There’s a link in this article to a video clip of it on Deadspin. If you couldn’t find that, it’s on you.
Also, I found it on Google in about 3 seconds. You need some work on your searching skills if you had to “search all over the Internet for this information.”
He didn’t even try. You know these types, glad to drop their political stance to strangers when it wasn’t requested or necessary.
You’re an idiot
Searching “all over the internet” huh? Thats a lot of space to search. Poor baby could not find anything huh? Maybe you too dumb or just pretended to “search”
darvish is really a cool dude
Hmmm..WWHCD?
20 years ago, Harry Caray made fun of Hideo Nomo’s “slanty eyes”. WGN apologized but Harry denied wrongdoing. Good that Gurriel has been suspended.
Damn it folks it’s over with. Whatever happend has been taking care of. Let be and let’s play ball for crying out loud.
GTFOI = Get The F$ck Over It,,,,Political correctness is killing all Sports,,,He apologised, move on,,,freaking media distracting everyone from the game with a non-story. Racism is alive in all races,,,don’t hear nothing but crickets when a black player uses the “N” word,,, you want to eliminate racists comments or incidents, it needs to be all, not picking and choosing.
Well said ( Thank You)
This comment section needs to be shut down.
Mandatory week’s vacation. That’ll teach him.
hahaha exactly, enjoy that much needed rest next season you monster lol
I don’t think it’s that big of a deal but I do think the punishment makes no sense. 5 games next year?? He should’ve been suspended for one game in the World Series. Punish him on the platform he did it on.
He has the right to an appeal, an appeal that can’t be convened until after the series is over by MLB rules. He would continue to play through an appeal process. Why bother trying to suspend him at all during the series when you know the suspension will not be served until next season anyway? Makes no sense to do that at all. Suspend him to start next season. That gives people another chance to discuss racism in the game and society.
They don’t get paid during the post season right? Contracts are based on a 162 season. Don’t they get a bonus from MLB or their team equally dispurssed to the roster? I was thinking why next season but if the punishment is to partly a pay reduction then taking their pay away it would make sense.
Welcome to Americas past time.
You heard it here, The World Series is clearly more important that societal progression. Manfred is no better than Yuli. He should be suspended for Game 4.
I think 1 game suspension is better than what he’s getting.
Agreed
Disappointed in MLB. I’m sure this will really show him!
Losing 5 games and pay will. What did you want them to do? Cut off his fingers?
Wow, that was logical.
They disciplined him. Pretty severely. What would be a bigger discipline to you guys. Cause I think 1 game now over 5 games next year was getting off lightly.
Five games next year and pay means little to nothing. A game now should have been sanctioned.
At a time when this country is dealing with this issue (racism) already the commissioner of MLB had the perfect chance to show his support and suspend him for rest of World Series. But no what did he do is say it’s ok because he plays on a team that he did not want to affect the rest of the team. Well Rob you’re now the disgrace to MLB by putting this game, yes I said a “GAME” ahead of what really matters in this world. I looked at the Astros as a feel good story this year and now I have no use for them if they support this decision. If Houston wants to save face they need to sit him for rest of Series to show everyone they don’t accept this kind of actions in their organization !!!!!!!
There’s no way he should’ve been suspended for the whole World Series. But he definitely should have been suspended one game
If one should be taken out of this it should be listening to Darvish. I think he’s a great man to say we should learn from this incident.
Agree, Darvish is a class act, especially considering this happened on what was already surely the worst day of his career.
What he did was a stupid
But it shouldn’t affect the World Series!
But it shouldn’t affect the World Series!
A whole lot of dumb–including Manfred’s statement that we shouldn’t punish the other Astros. By that logic, no one can be suspended for anything.
What a load of Bull!!!
SMH
Rob Manfred is a joke!!!!
Can’t help Shoeless Joe Jackson, but he can take command of this!!!
Charles Comiskey was evil and he is the Hall of Fame
Why not just hand the World Series to the Dodgers now?
Also, what about what David Price said to Dennis Eckersley, there was NOTHING done about that and the MLB is all over Gurriel!
Have you met Eckersley? He is a recovering alcoholic who was a raving a$$hat when he was drunk and stopping drinking has only slightly mellowed the man. He is still extremely blunt in his comments and often critical. There has been a large amount of grumbling about his on-air comments in the clubhouse for several years according to Boston beat writers. Typically he doesn’t travel with the team. Eckersley doesn;t like to travel because it puts him in situations where he drank in the past.
What Price said was “Here he is — the greatest pitcher who ever lived! This game is easy for him!’ Then when Eck responded Price said “GTFO of here” and according to people that were on the flight, many players applauded.
Later, after Eckersley was overheard complaining about the incident to Dombrowski, Price again said GTFO of here when Eckersley walked through an area where players were playing cards. That was the entire incident.
You may have noticed that there was never an apology offered. No reason to apologize for something like that. Leaders stand up to people that are attacking their teammates. Not a single Red Sox player has come out and tried to apologize for what Price said either. They were all thinking it too.
After reading the comments by Darvish after all of this, the level of my respect for him has gone through the roof.
I completely agree.
Eh, MLB making a bigger deal out of something just because it happened in the Playoffs yet again.
I’m not saying he doesn’t deserve a suspension, but you need precedents, and the precedent that the league has set is offending a minority portion of the population results in a two game suspension, but because it happened in the WS, its 5 games.
It will be appealed to start the season and reduced to 2 or 3 games.
My biggest disappointment is that this amazing series is probably going to be best remembered for a dumb moment.
If you think of it as a dumb moment then that’s all it will be. I’d encourage you to think of this moment by listening to Darvish, that this is something to be learned from.
I don’t think I can remember a post on MLB trade rumors with more comments.
not to be rude, but the Girardi article like two days ago lol. Back in the day under Disque, there used to be thousands on some. I remember the Prince Fielder for Ian Kinsler trade had like 500+ or so
I don’t remember, but I was guessing if there was an article I could remember reading about , It’d be the Giradi article.
Haven’t read through all the comments, but I’m sure it’s been said that Yu Darvish is an absolute boss for his tempered, even-keeled response. More of this behavior necessary in response to offensiveness.
Agreed
Exactly!
Perfectly said. Responding like Darvish did is the only way we move past racism into a more empathetic, Christ-like nation. All those spewing hate for Gurriel are only adding to the problem.
A great lesson for us all on what grace is. Thanks Yu….
What’s crazy is he played a season in Japan
Maybe as a Cuban player playing in Japan he dealt with much the same treatment. Who knows? If he did experience that kind of treatment there, one would think he would not have wanted to dish out what he got there.
If you are black and have been to Japan, you know first hand the incredible amount of racism we experience there. Even on the baseball field. That being said, it doesn’t excuse Gurriel’s actions.
He was suspended and its time to take Darvish’s admonition and move on.
Never said it was an excuse. Hiheat45 said it was surprising that he would use the slur considering he played in Japan. All I said was if he received similar treatment in Japan one would think he would not do the same thing himself. That is not making an excuse.
Lets just be clear here. Cheating and unsportsmanlike conduct are two different things.
Gurriel made a social mistake and he deserves his suspension next year and to lose money, but I think you gotta let the series play out now. One game in the WS is the most they could suspend him and it wouldn’t feel like enough of a personal punishment but more of a team punishment.
I’m glad the league opted to punish him in a way that affects him more individually.
Should be right away, if u want to do a ahole thing you should pay for it then not 6 months later
Five games to open the 2018 season isn’t severe enough for such ignorance.. Does Gurriel have the mentality of a ten year old?
So, basically, he should think and talk the way you say is correct in today’s society? You should take some of your own advice because your words are the definition of being close minded. This is America and anyone is entitled to think and talk how they choose. It is also anyone’s choice to ignore the things other say. Being open minded is accepting people for the way they are regardless if they share your views or use words/names that most would say are degrading.. Personally, I agree with you, but I would never have the nerve to tell anyone else how to think or what to say..
The strike zone I’ve seen when the Yankees played in Cleveland and astros was big. But hell players are complaining about a high pitch around their belt…like seriously the rule is from letters to the top of the knees” not waist below the knees. Plus we can’t define the check swing at all, when the rule is the bat must cross the plain. How about changing the rules that doesn’t have a direct meaning to like a “balk” and “swinging check swing” , like if you check your swing you wouldn’t need to have the bat over the plate at all period.
What message does it send to players and followers of baseball that MLB deems offensive speech worthy of a 5-game suspension but intentionally throwing fastballs behind hitters to send some sort of message earns nothing? I’m not saying Gurriel should not have received some sort of punishment, but MLB still sends mixed messages about how it wants the game to be handled.
I’m glad to see that we are finally imposing our pettiness throughout all aspects of society.
Hilarious. How is this 5 times as bad as Harper yelling F— you to the ump after being ejected.
I saw this incident happen live and I was hoping that it had to do with something else. Sadly it wasn’t. I’m disappointed in him that he put the team in a bad position. I’m not defending him but we also need to understand that this is hist first year in the United States. Its also not an excuse but he will learn from this.
On another note it would be very upsetting if he got suspended for the remainder of the WS and CC was able to pitch game 7 after he yelled a Gay Slur at Josh Reddick for bunting on him and his surgically repaired knee. You can’t be mad at one incident and not mad about another incident. Be consistent.
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Yuri crappy baseball player guilen or however you spell it (doesn’t matter lol) is a sad excuse for a human being. He should not be able to play in the MLB anymore. He is an example of what is wrong with US society and why many voted for Trump and feel strongly about how many Mexicans are doing nothing but negatively impacting society. They need to go back to their low class country, because they fit in there. Can I meet you Yuri to apologize? Lol
Correction, send him back to low class Cuba, all the same low class criminals. Sorry Yuri, can i apologize?