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NL East Notes: Nationals, Mets, Conforto, Marlins

By Steve Adams | November 15, 2017 at 11:34pm CDT

The Nationals have yet to hold any extension discussions with stars Bryce Harper or Anthony Rendon, agent Scott Boras told reporters at the GM Meetings on Wednesday (via Chelsea Janes of the Washington Post). Asked whether there’d be any talk about a deal for Harper before he reaches free agency next winter, Boras suggested that the matter is presently up to the Nationals. GM Mike Rizzo told the New York Post’s Joel Sherman yesterday that he’d be “surprised” if there were no extension talks with Harper this winter, though as Janes points out, those types of negotiations typically occur later in the offseason.

A bit more from the division…

  • With both Ryan Madson and Sean Doolittle under team control next season, the Nationals are less inclined to pursue top-tier free agent relievers, Janes writes in a second piece. Rizzo expressed confidence in that duo and offered a generally encouraging review of his relief corps overall, health permitting. Injury concerns are present, though, as Janes notes; both Koda Glover and Shawn Kelley were heavily limited by arm troubles in 2017. As such Rizzo indicated that it’s possible his team will pursue some right-handed bullpen help this offseason. Janes runs down several options that Nats fans will want to check out, and she also notes that Matt Albers may ultimately end up elsewhere as he cashes in on a career year.
  • Mets GM Sandy Alderson strongly downplayed the notion of signing an outfielder upon leaving the GM Meetings, tweets Mike Puma of the New York Post. Alderson indicated that a player that can handle some outfield as well as first base, or even just a pure first baseman are considerations, however. As Newsday’s Marc Carig tweets, that effectively points to regular center field work for Juan Lagares in 2018. Per Carig, the Mets have received trade interest in Lagares in the past and shown little inclination to move him. Of note, Carig also tweets that the Mets consider Jay Bruce versatile enough to handle both the outfield and first base, so a reunion remains on the table.
  • Michael Conforto’s agents tell Joel Sherman of the New York Post that their client has received “excellent” medical updates from the surgeons that performed his shoulder operation thus far in his recovery. The young Mets oufielder is expected to be swinging a bat by late January and should be ready for Spring Training, as things presently stand.
  • Tim Healey of the South Florida Sun Sentinel spoke to Marlins president of baseball operations Michael Hill about the team’s need for rotation help. Adding starting pitching is reportedly a priority for the Fish even as they look to pare down payroll by roughly $50MM and market several of their biggest stars, including Giancarlo Stanton, in trades. Of course, as Hill alluded to, the composition of the returns on their trades could well help to satisfy that priority. “We know we need to get better,” Hill said of his team’s starting pitching options.“Some of the trades may dictate what that looks like, what shape or form that looks like.” Hill also indicated that the Marlins could look at smaller trades and waiver claims as a means of adding additional options.
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  1. marlinsman

    8 years ago

    If RA Dickey doesn’t retire I think the fish should sign him. Why not, right? 1 year deal around $8mil, maybe flip him at the deadline

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  2. outinleftfield

    8 years ago

    On MLB Network today they were discussing the type of contract Harper might get and one of them quoted Boras as floating 13yrs/$500 MM last year. They all agreed that the 26 year old Harper was a lock to get a minimum of a 10 year deal with minimum AAV of $40 million.

    That is not a boatload of money, its a super-tanker of money.

    If the Nationals are able to extend him, would it take a contract structured like Scherzer’s? Would Harper fo for a deal like that?

    Scherzer’s contract, which ends after the 2021 season, pays $42.143 million per season for the last 3 seasons. $105 million of that is deferred interest-free and paid out at $15 million per season from 2022 through 2028.

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    • John Murray

      8 years ago

      I’ve never seen a guy as overhyped as Harper. One great season and he was having another one when he got hurt – which is another issue with the guy. IMHO – he’s not one of the five best players in the NL.

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      • Vedder80

        8 years ago

        Your humble opinion is wrong. The kid has every tool, and every tool is exceptional. Pair that with his youth, having not even hit his prime years, and it is easy to see how he could get such a large commitment.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Putting Harper on the brightest stage that is Yankee pinstripes would be epic. Look what one year under the lights having Judge perform the way he did helped MLB in the ratings..both locally and nationally. The combination of having multiple stars on an iconic brand gives MLB the push it needs for prime time viewing. Like it or not people love to hate the Super team and when it’s the Yankees it’s all that much bigger. With the way the Dodgers are trending upwards and the Yanks doing the same perhaps they will clash in the WS again,that’s what MLB truly wanted to happen this year…
          Yea I know the haters will be crazy about this post with the usual “East Coast Bias”,MLB has parity vs the NBA or MLB,and so on. In the end when the Yankees are great it’s good for MLB!!!

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          *parity vs NBA or NFL

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          what are we going to do with all those whining Red Sox and Mets fans, Cereal?

          I guess they will have a warm up when we sign Otani.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Not to mention the Phillies,Cardinals,Giants,and Angels fans when the Dodgers get Stanton. I can just see the posts on the hatred of Jeter and how he’s a terrible GM and so on.

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        • Flipjunior89

          8 years ago

          He’s not a GM , he’s a CEO

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Sorry about that *chief executive officer, no matter what the venom will still be the same…

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        • jakem59

          8 years ago

          Hate to break it to you but Judge didn’t do anything for ratings nationally, MLB was down 6% in prime time and local ratings continued to climb but at the same rate they have in recent years. This isn’t 1998, the MLB world doesn’t revolve around the Yankees.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          No hate to break it to you but it is 2017 and the ratings that matter to MLB were thru the roof thanks to the Yankees for one. The ESPN AL Wild Card game featuring the Yankees was up 58% from last year. The ALCS game 7 set a record for FS1 and was the most watched league championship series telecast on any network since 2010. The WS game 7 was the second most watched since 2004 second only to last year,just think what it would have been with the Yanks!!!

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        • jakem59

          8 years ago

          And yet prime time was down and the growth remained stagnant. Also that 58% is misleading, you had two US based teams playing opposed to the year before where Toronto was involved and non US viewers don’t count for Nielson ratings. People tuned into the playoffs this year, regardless of who was playing.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          How is 58% misleading? ESPN games which is prime time were up 30% and when the Yankees played 72% Cubs 60% Dodgers and Red Sox 48%.. you’re trying to cherry pick on the Jays why don’t you get my whole point..the Yankees drive up ratings. Nobody tuned into the playoffs like last year and this year since way back to 2004(Red Sox breaking their Curse). You bring up National ratings overall but everyone knows MLB is more of a regional sport and local ratings are up. Hey why don’t you also quote the ratings in Canada for the Jays? “People tuned into the playoffs this year,regardless of who was playing” because of the teams and they tuned in even more as those teams advanced i.e. Yankees,Dodgers and Cubs. Finally FOX offers limited prime time games 8est throughout the season

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        • Jizz Chasholm

          8 years ago

          58% is misleading because it doesn’t have a whole fanbase whose team was playing in the game accounted for. People tuned into the playoffs this year because of the games, not the teams anyways. Everyone likes the game 5’s and 7’s no matter what team was in it.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          58% is the overall ratings,if you want to break down the ratings for those individual teams locally the ratings points would be extremely higher. People tuned in for the whole series at a higher rate nationally for the teams and the games 5’s and 7’s always rate higher then the whole series. The Cubs drew huge ratings in 2016 but this years WS did great ratings this year because of the Dodgers. Search google for ratings back to 1996 on all playoff series and see the patterns.

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        • Jizz Chasholm

          8 years ago

          It’s American ratings lol. Those stats left out a whole country who cheers for one of the wild card games. A Bluejays Yankees wildcard game would’ve had around the same ratings

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          Hey Jake from State Farm: your automobile policy is up. Please avoid crashing with no insurance as your jealous induced opinions could tend to take your eyes off the road.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Mikey JFisnasty about his denial of facts. Throws crap against the Canadian wall. Point is the Jays suuuuck!!!

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        • outinleftfield

          8 years ago

          Toronto is the 4th largest TV market in baseball and they are the only team in Canada so viewers all across the country watch their games. If you are not counting those viewers at all then the numbers are greatly skewed. Overall, I would be willing to bet that there was no increase at all if you take into account the Canadian viewers.

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        • Jizz Chasholm

          8 years ago

          What are you talking about? If youre not going to at least be respectful I wont reply to you anymore. But either you don’t understand this discussion or you’re intentionally skewing the numbers.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          You’re the one not stating any numbers or trends for anything. Where are the numbers I asked you for.? Where is any attempt for you to make any point? You just state things without providing why. That’s fine because in my original post I knew there’d be haters….

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        • jakem59

          8 years ago

          “Look what one year under the lights having Judge perform the way he did helped MLB in the ratings..both locally and nationally”

          ^those are your words. Judge did nothing nationally or locally to the MLB product. National was down over all and localities were up the same 5% they have been the last couple years, this is not Judge’s doing, this is not the Yankee’s doing. Picking random moments where things were really up doesn’t mean things were the best they’ve ever been.

          No one’s nitpicking the Blue Jays, you used the 2017 ALCS as a jumping off point saying it was 58% better ratings but those 2016 ratings didn’t include an entire fan base in another country, that makes the data skewed and an inaccurate display of the actual viewership of the series.

          MikeYank-Thank you for another rambling incoherent statement, the lowest common denominator of people on here thank you for speaking their language.

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          Number one selling Jersey in MLB for 2017. “picking random moments” I never said things are bettter then they’ve ever been,but you did make my point..the Yankees drive things. Look I don’t know who your team is or your angle but whatever it’s fine.
          Finally I don’t know why you insulted Mikeyyank in a reply to me but you kinda fit that bill by doing that…

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        • Comment Section Mod

          8 years ago

          I think the point JFisnasty is trying to make is that with any other two American teams, those two markets are included in the rankings. Then every other person who watches in America is included. In the case of Toronto, there is only one of the wild card teams fan bases included plus whoever else watched. This is why youre original statement was misleading. Two American teams are always going to have higher ratings because there will be two entire cities accounted for

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        • thegreatcerealfamine

          8 years ago

          The ratings for that Blue Jays series included Canadian households…

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        • Comment Section Mod

          8 years ago

          Not that any of this matters at all anyways, but I find that hard to believe. Sportsnet had an average of 4.02 million and peaked at 5.38 million for the 2016 wildcard game. The 58% can’t include Canada, because those numbers don’t add up.

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        • mikeyank55

          8 years ago

          Jake from Statefarm: if you hold up your post in a mirror you will see an image of rambling and incoherent. Try using some adhesive to hold your thought together. I would suggest buying a tube of Crazy Glue as it is designed to match your personality and temperament.

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        • metseventually

          8 years ago

          You aren’t part of the Yankees organization.

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      • reflect

        8 years ago

        So name 4 players better? I’ll wait.

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        • nyy42

          8 years ago

          Goldschmidt
          Arenado
          Trout
          Altuve

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        • whosyourmomma

          8 years ago

          I’d honestly rather have Goldy, Trout, Bryant, Altuve, Arenado or even Bellinger over 10-13 years of a way overpaid Harper.

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        • nyy42

          8 years ago

          Votto

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        • reflect

          8 years ago

          Uhhh half those players are not in the NL. The comment was “not even 5th best player in the NL.”

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        • jmi1950

          8 years ago

          Arrenado
          Votto
          Bryant
          Posey
          Stanton
          Seager
          Goldy
          Freeman

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        • outinleftfield

          8 years ago

          In the last 50 years, no player has had a better season than Harper prior to his 23rd birthday. None.
          In the integrated era of baseball, only 18 have had as good or better 1st 6 seasons of their career.
          Last season he was top 3 in OPS, OPS+, wRC+, wOBA, SLG, OBP.
          He is an incredible talent and he is going to get paid like it.

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      • jdgoat

        8 years ago

        Harper isn’t overrated lol

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  3. mike156

    8 years ago

    It makes little sense for the Nationals to open discussions on Harper, although Boras is trying to stir up a little pressure for them to do so. Harper is going to the highest bidder, which is his right. Boras is just hoping that the Nats make a very strong offer, which he will leak as a floor.

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  4. FBA17

    8 years ago

    Harper is a great player. Hoping he can stay healthy to always show it. But that is a boatload of money. It seems who ever signs him will have payroll issues at some point. That’s a large percentage of payroll for one player.

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    • kbarr888

      8 years ago

      Nats will re-sign him to a 40 year/$450 Mil contract.

      He’ll get $20 Million/year for the next 15 years, then $6 Mil/yr for the next 25 years…….(beating out the Bobby Bonilla Contract as “The Stupidest Contract In Baseball History…..LOL)

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  5. chiligtc

    8 years ago

    As a #Mets fan, I’m clearly waiting for the “Michael Conforto has suffered a setback in his rehabilitation” press release…

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    • ExileInLA 2

      8 years ago

      Or the “Conforto to miss Spring Training; accuses Mets of mishandling rehab” story in the Com-Post.

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  6. sandman12

    8 years ago

    Jeter’s Solution

    By author Lee Stone

    Mired with $400 million in debt and a payroll that promises to add to it, new Marlin ownership is faced with a problem. With a MLB-leading profit of $88 million last season and a tiny payroll heading into the 2018 season, the Philadelphia Phillies hold the answer. One trade. Roster for roster. Flip those teams. Everyone wins.

    Why would Philadelphia take on a Marlin roster that won only 77 games last season and is projected to cost $140 million in 2018? Let’s count the reasons. 1) The 2017 Marlins scored a lot more runs than the Phillies and feature no less than six potential All Stars for 2018 – the entire OF plus Gordon, Realmuto and Bour. 2) With Giancarlo on board, Philadelphia home attendance increases by what? A million? Phanatics will fall in love with Dee Gordon and Ozuna too. 3) Ziegler, Tazawa, and Volquez come off the books (about $25 million) after the 2018 season. 4) Added inducements. The Phils keep treasured starter Aaron Nola and get $20 million from Miami so they can add to their pitching staff. The end result is immediate contention for the Phillies and an unprecedented surge of interest in the team.

    Why for Miami? Phrankly, ownership doesn’t have the resources to keep the existing roster together. With a single stroke, Jeter will have a younger team, new heroes for the Marlin fans. Unprecedented publicity. The team operates in the black from day one. Jeter has a core to build on instead of one that must be torn down.

    Everyone wins.

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    • Brixton

      8 years ago

      While not practical in the slightest, this does offer some fictional intrigue lol

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      • sandman12

        8 years ago

        What deal can be more practical? Both teams get exactly what they want/need!

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        • kbarr888

          8 years ago

          I think he meant that “it’s not practical that they could actually DO that”…..at least that’s the way I took it……LOL

          It does have a very interesting basis to it.

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  7. rememberthecoop

    8 years ago

    Most media (and fans) are acting as if a Stanton trade is inevitable and even Jeter had indicated that there are no guarantees they will move him, stating how complicated it is.

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    • jmi1950

      8 years ago

      Because $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ TALKS

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    • Jbigz12

      8 years ago

      Welll it is inevitable. They don’t have the cash and he’s not going to play any better than he did last season. Combo that with new ownership who’d like to build something and you have yourself a trade in the works. Stanton has the final say so it’s going to be very difficult to dictate the return.

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  8. jmi1950

    8 years ago

    Marlins trade Stanton, Prado (2 yrs / 28.5MM) & Bour to Red Sox for JBJ, Sam Travis & Brian Johnson.

    Why the Marlins do it: $$$$$$$$$$$$ plus they can flip JBJ for prospects, Travis fills 1B & Johnson goes into the rotation. Bour is the price of the Sox taking on all the $$$$$.

    Why the Sox do it: The $$$$$$$$$$$$ isn’t that much if they are really thinking of signing JD & ; a power bat 1B. Prado fills in for Pedroia and moves to the Nunez role. Stanton and Bour hit 80 HRs.

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    • mikeyank55

      8 years ago

      Stanton has already said NO to playing in Boston. All he had to do was recall conversations with Carl Crawford of how playing in front of those fans made him HATE playing baseball.

      Sorry that reality hurts so much

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      • thegreatcerealfamine

        8 years ago

        Mikey I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. The Red Sox fans are the best in MLB at beating a dead horse. Next thing they’ll post is David Price is going down to Miami to recruit Stanton…

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  9. Jbigz12

    8 years ago

    Albers is listed as 6’1 225 and I can tell you there’s no way in hell hes only 225. He has to be every bit of 260.

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