The Orioles had talks over the winter with then-free agent right-hander Lance Lynn, who finally exited the market Saturday when he agreed to sign with the Twins. Lynn ended up with a one-year, $12MM pact, but he perhaps could have gotten a longer deal in Baltimore. The Orioles may have been willing to give Lynn either three guaranteed years or two with a vesting option, Roch Kubatko of MASNsports.com reports. Lynn would have been the third (and likely the best) starter to sign with the Orioles in recent weeks. They previously added Andrew Cashner and re-signed Chris Tillman. There remains room for improvement, which general manager Dan Duquette realizes. “We need to find some answers to our pitching staff,” Duquette admitted to Dan Connolly of BaltimoreBaseball.com as part of a Q&A that’s worth reading in full. While Duquette noted that “it’s getting kind of late in the spring training period for pitchers to get ready,” he’s nonetheless not ruling out adding another starter in free agency or via trade.
More from the East Coast…
- The Rays aren’t exactly known for throwing money around, but they could find themselves in position to spend next winter, Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times observes. Part of that will depend on whether some of their top prospects, including Willy Adames and Jake Bauers, emerge as hoped. If they do, and if the Rays retain Chris Archer and Kevin Kiermaier, they could have most of their roster in place for around $40MM, Topkin estimates, thus creating the possibility for some notable additions.
- The only sure bets to crack the Marlins’ season-opening rotation are Dan Straily and Jose Urena, leaving 10 candidates for three spots, Clark Spencer of the Miami Herald writes. “It could go down to the wire,” manager Don Mattingly said of the crowded race. Spencer goes on to highlight all 10 candidates, including prospect Sandy Alcantara – whom the Marlins acquired in their Marcell Ozuna trade with the Cardinals over the winter.
- Former Mariners starter Roenis Elias has become somewhat of an afterthought since the Red Sox acquired him prior to 2016, but the left-hander could reemerge this year out of the bullpen. Elias is now working as a reliever, owing in part to a newfound commitment to using a sidearm delivery against same-sided hitters, per Chad Jennings of the Boston Herald. The only lefty reliever on Boston’s projected roster is Robby Scott, which could help give Elias a path back to the majors. After appearing in 51 games and making 49 starts from 2014-15 in Seattle, with which he pitched to a 3.97 ERA across 279 innings, Elias has only thrown eight frames in two years with the Red Sox. The 29-year-old spent nearly all of 2016-17 with Triple-A Pawtucket.
gfilla
I cannot understand why St. Louis didn’t resign Lynn. I think they are going to miss him this year.
dynamite drop in monty
Because they hate baseball cards
kbarr888
No idea why….but they treated him like a “Red-Headed-Step-Child” in Aug/Sept…..Shame on the FO……
They stood NO CHANCE of signing him for 2018 after that.
Bad Move Mo…
Nnnjjjjjhhjj
What’s wrong with red-headed step-children?
Wainofan
Because they want to give young guys a chance, Martinez, wacha, waino, Weaver abd mikolas all we’re favored by cards over Lynn. Next up after those five is Flaherty and Reyes. Not to mention after some more seasoning Dakota Hudson and Jordan hicks are soon to be ready for a chance. That’s nine guys Mo wants to see pitch before Lynn. I like Lynn a lot and wish him well, but no room on cards and this is a smart decision
stansfield123
no soul.
anarchoburrito
There is no universe where Adam Wainwright is still considered a “young guy”
thesheriffisnear
The suspense for who makes the Marlins rotation is killing me!
yukongold
I’m still waiting to see if Marlins Man renews his season tickets.
camdenyards46
lol
Jerry Handy
Lynn did not want 17 million SL had for him that’s why
mstrchef13
This is an example of what no one is willing to say in defense of the Orioles. Lynn signed a 1 year deal with the Twins, and the Orioles offered at least 2, maybe 3. It is incredibly difficult to get free agent starters to sign in Baltimore because (1) they have to face the Yankees, Red Sox, and Blue Jays a combined 57 times, and (2) they pitch half their games in a difficult park for pitchers.
Whatever “market value” is for a starting pitcher, the O’s have to pay a premium on top of that to get people to come to Baltimore. The team is reluctant to give out long term contracts to pitchers anyway, and then to have to pay well above what other teams would pay the same pitcher is even harder to do. As disappointed as I am with the team’s inability to land quality FA starters, I understand why and I don’t blame management nearly as much as the rest of the world does.
brooksnumber5is1
So then the Orioles should trade for arms. If they had traded Davis, Chen and O’Day before free agency then they might be stocked by now. Maybe actually grow and develop some arms instead of trading them. Maybe the front office should adjust accordingly since it is apparent that decent pitchers will not come here by choice.
jdgoat
They need to shakeup something in their front office. They haven’t been able to develop a top of the rotation pitcher in over a decade. They did a decent job with Tillman, and even he would’ve been a number 3 on most other teams.
jbigz12
Tillman never had the physical tools to be a TOR pitcher. He was a #2 best case scenario. Maybe bundy becomes that guy. Or Hunter Harvey. Arrieta and Gausman did. Maybe Gausman still does but he has a long way to go.
brooksnumber5is1
Then how was it a great offseason? And Lynn wouldn’t sign here either. Is Syd Thrift back?
jbigz12
It’s not really the orioles fault that Lynn wouldn’t sign here if we offered a 3 year deal. Is it? If we offered 3/36 or something and he declined that for his current deal you can’t be mad at the orioles FO for that. We need to spend some money now though. It’s ridiculous that we’re going into this year with a lower payroll. Cobb should be brought in on a 1 year overpay. Give him a year and 15m if he doesn’t want a long term deal. It’s not much more than we paid ubaldo last year.
bravesfan88
Correct, I mean, “mstrchef”, you are basically giving the go ahead for the Orioles Front Office to just sit back and accept being mediocre..
You might as well say, oh well, and give up, because the Jays, Yankees, and Red Sox are too good…I mean, why even try right??
So, apparently the Orioles cannot acquire any good free agent starting pitchers, and they refuse to participate in the international amateur market, which could also help them acquire pitching talent…
It’s no wonder they will remain completely mediocre…But, hey, why try to get better, when you won’t win anyways…That’s definitely the attitude I want from my favorite team’s front office…
E munchy
Exactly
jbigz12
Why the hell would we have done that? We made the playoffs in 12 14 and 16. Should we have just punted that for prospects?
brooksnumber5is1
2015- they all became free agents. If we had any plans, would have signed Cruz to a four year deal (but the Oriole apologists said that was a good non-signing because he would be bad after one year), signed O’Day back, Chen left anyway, and Davis would not have gotten the ridiculous contract. Maybe Manny could have gotten a long term deal instead of Davis. No effects on the 2012 and 2014 runs, and maybe stronger for the 16 Wild Card one and done year. Sort of like what the Yankees have done.
jbigz12
It’s all so easy in hindsight. There’s no way we were going to trade Davis. He was a machine that season. We weren’t trading him after he played like garbage the year before either unless we just wanted to give him away. We shouldn’t have signed him but let’s not act like trading him was ever an option. How much was half a season of Chen going to bring back? Enough to make this all different? Don’t think so.
brooksnumber5is1
No, this was foresight and you gave me a thumbs down at the time. For a pennant run, nobody cares what they did last season. They were all doing well and about to become free agents. The Orioles would have gotten plenty to replenish the minors for any of the 3. They all got big money that winter and for the same reason that they all got paid they would have been good deadline deals. We gave up a decent pitcher for that no-good Parra and Davis was much more valuable than him.
Solaris601
The very same is true of the Rockies. No SP in his right mind signs in COL for the same money he’d get elsewhere. These aren’t recent developments, though, so the front office can stand around saying “Where’d all the pitchers go?”, but whose fault will it be when the O’s finish last in the AL East again?
bravesfan88
Precisely!! And what did the Rockies do?? They revamped some of their scouts, went out and did all the necessary footwork and analytics, and they acquired some young pitching talent to groom and mold..
Now, that is EXACTLY what a good front office should do, not just accept they’ll never be able to obtain any talented starting pitchers…That’s just pathetic..
connorreed
Exactly. The Rockies have a pretty solid rotation heading into 2018, and every starter competing for a job was either drafted, signed as an amateur, or traded for – Jeff Hoffman, Jon Gray, Antonio Senzatela, German Marquez, Kyle Freeland, Tyler Anderson, and Chad Bettis. They didn’t rely on free agency to fill those needs.
baines03
It didn’t say how much the O’s offered per year… if it was $7-9 million per, then maybe Lynn just plans on betting on himself by taking a one-year deal at a higher yearly salary and re-entering the market next season.
Plus, the Twins made the playoffs last year. The O’s aren’t going to be competing in that division.
gomerhodge71
Baltimore is also not exactly a lure. It’s a city that has gone full-force into the trash in the past ten years and players don’t see any chance of a championship.
jbigz12
have you ever been to Baltimore or do you read news headlines? It’s gentrified and very nice in any place a MLB player wants to hang out. There are plenty of nice places for a multi millionaire to live in and around Baltimore. Don’t act like these guys are hanging out or concerned with the inner city.
brooksnumber5is1
Gomer, did you mean Baltimore or the Orioles? I don’t think it is right to bring in city features or problems. If that were the case, the Padres would have their choice of free agents.
stansfield123
The Orioles could’ve traded Machado for pitching, and then signed Moustakas. So that’s no excuse. Please, go ahead and blame management, they’re incompetent.