Sonny Gray was part of a trade deadline deal last year, and the right-hander may end up on the move again this season. Gray, whom the Yankees acquired from the Athletics last July, is generating “a bit of interest” with July 31 nearing, Jon Heyman of Fancred tweets. Heyman casts doubt on the Yankees shipping out Gray, though, noting that the playoff shoo-ins are more interested in adding starters than subtracting them.
The Gray experiment hasn’t worked out thus far for New York, and as a result, Nick Cafardo of the Boston Globe reported Saturday that some teams believe the Yankees do want to move him. The 28-year-old Gray has been a quality mid-rotation starter for the majority of his career, but he’s now amid his second-worst season in terms of both ERA (5.34) and FIP (4.41). While Gray has managed the second-best strikeout rate of his major league tenure (8.53 K/9), he has partially offset that with a personal-worst walk rate (3.94 BB/9). He has also generated the fewest ground balls of his career (a still-respectable 47.6 percent), racked up just 96 innings in 19 starts and totaled only seven quality starts.
As poorly as Gray has pitched this year, he’s still one of the Yankees’ five best starting options right now, to which Heyman alluded. Despite their excellent record (63-34, 4 1/2 games behind AL East-leading Boston), the Yankees haven’t gotten much from any starters but Luis Severino and CC Sabathia – the latter of whom is a 38-year-old with past knee problems. One of Gray’s fellow established starters, Masahiro Tanaka, has also had difficulty preventing runs. Meanwhile, Jordan Montgomery is out for this year and at least some of 2019 on account of Tommy John surgery, rookie Domingo German hasn’t been part of the solution, and fellow first-year man Jonathan Loaisiga didn’t offer length during his first four starts before succumbing to shoulder troubles.
Given their obvious starting pitching issues, the Yankees are known to be on the hunt for rotation help in advance of the deadline. The problem is that no front-line starters appear destined to move, which could leave the Yankees to choose from uninspiring hurlers who, like Gray, bring clear flaws to the table. One such option is righty Dan Straily, whom the Yankees have spoken with the Marlins about, according to Heyman. But the teams “don’t appear to be close” to a deal, per Heyman, and Straily certainly wouldn’t represent a slam-dunk upgrade over Gray.
As a result of the weak pitching market, Gray may at least finish the season as a Yankee, and then the team will have to decide whether to retain him in 2019. Gray, who’s on a $6.5MM salary this season, is slated to go through arbitration one more time.
yankees will not move him
I agree. There’s no point in moving him, he will be the #5 starter after the Yanks acquire someone like Happ or Fiers or Archer. Then Gray will be left off the postseason roster, and likely moved after the season.
Yeah, that’s a much better plan for him.
Honestly, they should see if Oakland wants him back. Just grab someone else, any live veteran arm can eat his mediocre innings and look for a better quality starter as well.
I totally agree. He is a mental midget and can survive in NY. He will do well elsewhere and has great stuff when he is not pitching in the Bronx. There are many of those small market teams where he would thrive. Move him if you can and really since he’s a number 4 or 5 starter at best, maybe we can trade him for someone else’s 4th or 5th guy who turns out to be a bull dog. Clearly we aren’t trying to pull the wool over someone’s eyes and are just looking for fair value. Shouldn’t be totally undoable.
The Mets offered Thor on Sunday evening reasoning that he couldn’t pitch in the next week.
Randy Levine dangled Neil Walker in front of Fred and when he bit Levine demanded deGrom. Abort and Costello got into a heated “who’s in first” routine and Fred snapped—agreeing to the trade on national TV.
The down votes make no sense…that scenario is more likely than not to be exactly what happens they will keep him for the purpose of depth if not anything else… he will not be on the postseason roster and he will not be on the team next year. I would love to hear what the eight Geniuses that downvoted your opinion think the Yankees are going to do with Sonny Gray
Braves have tons of pitching talent and were very interested in Sonny Gray last year before Yanks traded a lot to get him. Braves are making a run and could use veteran pitching and honestly Gray could use a change of scenery. Maybe Gohara and a lower prospect for Gray and $$$. Win-win
If you think the Braves would give up Gohara for Gray, you’re insane. If Braves give Gohara it will be for a front line starter, maybe Dylan Bundy. Gray is nothing more than a 4-5th starter.
I agree w you. Sonny could bring that veteran presence they need in Atlanta
You’re waaaaay to high on Gohara! There’s at least 4 prospects w a higher ceiling in Atlanta’s farm system. Let’s remember, they’re still prospects. They’re not MLB All Stars. As good of a farm system Atlanta has, they’ve had too good of a season to not make a move for a quality veteran. Sonny still has a sick spin rate and when he’s on, he’s still got it. There’s a lot of players that can’t handle the pressure of playing in the Big Apple. Atlanta would be a great fit
Last year is a long time ago and times have changed, wouldn’t you say? Gray, who hasn’t been good since 2015 was at least mediocre when the Braves were interested in him.
Classic delusional Yankee hater.
Gray wasnt good in 2017 with a 3.55 ERA?
So what is Rick Porcello this year with a 4.13 ERA?
hes solid no doubt, dont join in conversations when you’re that stupid and biased.
Whoa! U feel better now?
The Yankees traded mostly defective players for Gray.
Fowler would probably never be good enough to start in NY. Mateo looks very bad this year and Kap hasn’t pitched yet. Might not be a terribly costly mistake but they couldn’t get the A’s to give them 2/3 of those guys back for Gray now.
Gray to the Padres for??
Tyson Ross, Buddy Reed, and cash.
Tyson Ross and Stammen? Reed has too much potential to let him go for a #3-4 starter that is struggling w only one year left
Reed isn’t even a Padres top thirty prospect. If Gray pitched in that park he would more then likely return to his old self. Yankees gotta have Reed some how, he’s from Brooklyn, and his mom was a huge Bernie Williams fan. Leaving out Gray then what would they want for Ross and Reed?
Reed isn’t being traded, this team isn’t close enough to be trading minor league talent like that when the big league club is 20 games under .500, ask for Gray but only for players that don’t factor into San Diego’s future which Reed definitely does. I don’t think Margot is the answer long term.
That’s probably too much for the Padres to give up. Ross is still a trade chip of his own (I don’t expect him to bring back much but in this starting pitching market you never know), and Reed is a really solid prospect too.
Reed for Gray straight up? Reed isn’t a slam dunk. His star is bright now, but he wasn’t a top 30, in the organization, before the season. Or say you do Ross and Reed, then the Yanks can add some money or add a prospect to even out the trade. Very interesting either way.
He is a budding star. Prospects rise and fall drastically year to year. He was just promoted and has a great year so far.
A budding star ranked out of their top 30, and way outside MLB top 100. What a budding star. Never accuse Yankees fans of overhyping their prospects.
Then why would he want him? He’s on the rise in a stacked system. Prob would be ranked 10-15th on most other teams. We shouldn’t be selling high ceiling players at this point w all of our high floor guys
I don’t think Buddy Reed gets traded. He has been a very pleasant surprise that Preller will most likely hold close to the vest. Regardless of top 30 this, prospect list that. He represented the organization very well in the Futures game, Preller would be smart to hold on him.
Uh, no.
Tyson Ross, Craig Stammen, and Kirby Yates for Sonny Gray and prospects. Fills two needs for the Yankees, Padres clear two 40 man spots for the off season and get a reclamation project in Gray,
Dillion Tate, Juan Then, and Juan De Paula would be good gets for the Padres along with Gray.
I’d love to get Florial somehow. I hope Yates brings back at top 50-75 player on his own. Ross needs to be packaged wStammen or Yates to get a better prospect a la Hand+Cimber.
Ross+ Stammen for Florial and Drury
I’d love to get Florial somehow. I hope Yates brings back at top 50-75 player on his own. Ross needs to be packaged wStammen or Yates to get a better prospect a la Hand+Cimber.
Ross+*Yates for Florial and Drury
Yates isn’t bringing back a top 50-75 prospect, yet, if ever. It took 2 and 1/2 years of Brad Hand being dominant before he netted what he did. Yates has only been dominant for little over 1 year. Plus he’s 31. If you can get a Tate like prospect and some young kids like Then and De Paula you take it to clear the 40 man spots and idk why wed want drury, maybe as a throw in.
3b. Unless you’re sold on Villanueva. Which I’m not. Drury is proven and only 25. Eventually, once we find our 3b of the future, hed be a great platoon/utility guy.
Id rather they give Villanueva 1 more year or go out and trade excess prospects for a 3B gap player. Maybe a Jedd Gyorko reunion.
lol you’re not getting Florian for that mess.
*Florial
Yeah, the Yankees aren’t doing that.
Yates is a mess?wtf are you talking about? Ross+Yates for a top 40 prospect is probably close
Drury is proven? He’s done nothing but proven to be a below average major league hitter.
Ed Whitson
Not sure if Gray can’t handle NY ala Whitson or if after a hotshot rookie season, playing in a pitcher’s park in a then mediocre division, he’s just not much better than average.
Eric Show
delete this
Met fans shouldn’t be taking trash about ANYONE! Lol
Gray may stink put at least he can play unlike the 30 million dollar Cuban defector.
An empty soda cup and a couple pennies found underneath a urinal at Petco Park?
That’d still be a pretty penny. Now Qualcomm, those bathrooms are nasty. Not enough bathrooms. I’ve def pissed in the trash can while waiting in line
I think Gray could be a part of a package for an upgrade for the Yankees. If you can turn Gray and prospects into Archer, Snell, C Martinez, or someone of that caliber, why not
There’s not much point to that for any other team. Gray only has one year left, and the Yankees aren’t really sweetening any “pot” with the addition of Gray. Certainly not for the pitchers that you mentioned.
Throwing in Gray is like throwing in Neil Walker. What the heck would the Cardinals or Rays do with a single season from Sonny Gray that they wouldn’t get from C-Mart, Snell or Archer.
And if your point is for Gray to be an “add-in” by using an Andujar or a Sheffield as the focal point, then what is the point of throwing Gray in anyways? Just to get rid of him?
If that is the case, you’re better off doing a 1-to-1 buy-low trade then.
Cuso: I believe the reason for including Gray would be to unload his salary. He is only owed roughly $3m for the year but the Yankees will need that $3m to pay for the 2 new starters they are going to have to acquire.
Also, you act as if Gray has no trade value. He may not be worth what he was last year but teams are still interested in acquiring him. He has maintained his velocity and imo he appears to be a victim of the Yankee pitching philosophy. When he was in Oakland he seemed to throw more fastballs than in NY. I could be wrong but he reminds me of A.J. Burnett, who seemed to have the same problems pitching in NY but transitioned back into a successful pitcher in Pittsburgh right after he was traded.
No teams looking to trade those pitchers would want to take on Gray’s 2019 salary and then watch him walk after next year. They would want young talent controllable for at least 3 years.
LOL
Gray is garbage. Let’s be real.
Diagree. A lot of pitchers go to NYY and lose their mojo. Before going to Yanks Sonny Grey was a front end starter top-25 pitcher.
NY is a tough team and tough atmosphere. Wasnt like Gray was coming from Dodgers. He was top dog on a small market team and he gets thrown into the lions den.
Yanks should trade him for best prospect they can get and move on. Theyll have to pay some cash too.
Let’s call it Carl Pavano syndrome. Some people just can’t handle the “big stage.” Big difference playing for a last place A’s team and a team in New York who have high expectations.
this idea is absurd, did you not watch 2013/2014?
Carl Pavano? The one known as the true “American Idle”?
Please stop with the Snell chatter you sound foolish!
I’d rather listen to Popeye(Gardner)singing!
This is the kind of upside play he angels need to attempt. I wouldn’t mind if they got him
Sonny Gray needs tommy John surgery just after reading this suggestion.
Lmao best comment
I feel like this comment has been repeated to much
NYY: Sonny Gray, Clint Frazier, & Jonathan Loasiaga
LAA: Andrew Heaney
That’s foo much for Andrew Heaney.
Since Sheffield is off limits, why not Kyle Gibson for Dillion Tate, Juan DePaula, and Deivi Garcia.
Na
i want kyle gibson to the yankees
Heard the Brewers are interested, although they don’t really want to give up a lot.
And why would/should we for him? We’re still stuck with Braun’s contract for another 2 years.
It was reported by Cafardo, so you should have known it was a load of BS.
Hang a W bro.
Cafardo isn’t wrong, but it’s a non-story because it would be impossible to trade him for anything that would help the Yanks this year. Heck, the Sox would love to move Pomeranz or Price too … but that ain’t gonna happen any time soon either. LOL
Give me a break, Cafardo can be trusted even less then the “Great” Heyman. This is nothing but fodder to fill things, because Happ, Hamels, and especially Straily aren’t any better than what they can throw out there now.
Happ would instantly be the #3 or #4 starter in the Yanks rotation right now, I shouldn’t need to explain why.
Happ would not be the #3 and as for the #4 the way he’s trending he’d be a #5 or #6. I’d much rather have starts by Gray, Cessa, Loaisiga , or even Sheffield. I shouldn’t have to explain what he’s looked like lately, so no thanks. There’s way better options than Happ out there.
Happ would at worst be the Yankees 3rd best starter and probably 2nd best. Happ has been hamstrung by the Jays d which might be the worst in the game
And people talk about Yankees fans way overhyping their players. Geesh
I don’t know even with Happs recent struggles he probably still would slot into the Yankees three spot.
Wow …. so you’re gonna totally ignore what Happ has done the past 3 1/2 years, and write him off based on 3 July starts for a very bad non-contending team while trade rumors are swirling all around him.
Yeah, that seems rational.
I would like to disagree, but Happ would probably do better than Gray, Tanaka and Germán/Cessa.
On the surface trading Gray makes no sense, but that probably won’t stop teams from asking. Just because teams have an interest doesn’t mean the Yankees do.
Gray’s value is at the lowest it has ever been so why would the Yanks trade him for nothing. He could be a throw in for another starter but that would mean packaging him with a top prospect. Gray more likely to go on the DL than being traded.
Slow day at the office!
Jose Martinez for gray. Lol
Yes please, this guy needs to go. Bring up Sheffield, he can’t be much worse.
Gray to the Ad’s.
Mateo and Kap for Gray and Medina.
Who are the Ad’s and what league do they play in?
I dunno either, but I think both the Snakes and the DBacks would probably offer more.
A’s fans would riot if they gave up Mateo and Kap and didn’t get deGrom or Syndergaard back (altho with more players involved for those two, obviously). Gray with his yips aren’t of any value. If the Yankees got Brian Howard back for him that’s a fleecing in itself. Something like Ruiz, Naile and a couple reliever prospects probably get it done. Gray’s trade value is the lowest it will ever be.
That package wouldn’t even have the Mets picking up the phone
can you not read? I literally said “with more players involved for those two, obviously”, meaning, those 2 plus more prospects, which would absolutely keep the Mets on the phone, if Puk, Barreto and others are in the deal.
Reading skills please!!!
Yeh, well if its the same Oakland fans that touted Sonny Gray as the next Cy Young….then they can have Gray and his yips back.
Nah he’s just a small town kid who’s getting eaten alive by the NYC media. Way different type of pressure and also the little league park near my house has a deeper RF than Yankee stadium so there’s many factors going on here. He probably does need to go to a quieter media and he’ll be ok. Still been top 10 in ERA 3 times in the last 5 years.
It’s not the media it’s the ballpark. Too many fly balls.
He’s from Nashville, TN. Went to school there. Went to Vanderbilt. Went to the College World Series. Would hardly call him a small town kid…
wait so Mateo and Kap, the two players that netted Gray (along with Fowler) cant be had for Gray + another highly regarded prospect? M8, Mateo and Kap cant get DeGrom or Syndergaard. Maybe if they were the two of a 4-5 player package. I was surprised to see Kap and Mateo net Gray at the time, but Fowler being included made that trade. The A’s bit on Mateo when the Yankees sold high on him and has Kap pitched since being traded?
Send him back to Oakland for a package of players WAY not as highly-regarded as the 3 they sent over, along with a note saying “You’re welcome for that package we gave you, you won this round Beane, well done”. lol
If Beane did win this trade which of course is a huge reach, it would be the only trade he ever came out ahead. Most overrated GM in MLB history.
Didn’t see the Familia trade I take it?
Dude that just happened..kinda early.
Never heard of the Khris Davis trade I guess.
Can you say Addison Russell, and so on.
Literally every GM makes bad trades, Beane takes the lowest salary team to the postseason in pretty much half the years he’s been at the helm, its not 50/50 currently but they’re about to contend so it will bounce back up. He’s playing with a different deck of cards to other GMs, so he has to take risks. Is it his fault they’re 1-13 in playoff series clinch games since he took over? Only reason why he doesn’t have titles is heartbreakingly bad luck at the very end. Stop being a jerk.
Give me a break been hearing that jibber-jabber for years, mainly from homers like yourself. I’ll “Stop being a Jerk” and you stop being insecure.
remember that time Beane traded Donaldson just because? Donaldson didnt start making 20M+ until this year, so it wasnt about the money. Beane is a fool who figured happened to figure out that looking at stats are important before most people. There is a reason he hasnt won a WS while other small market teams like the Royals have
No, you’ll stop being a jerk because you are running the lamest, most inaccurate narrative because you are butt hurt that someone wrote a book on him and then a movie got optioned from the book because your fave team won a WS and they didn’t get a movie from it. Grow up, troll.
Every single team that has won a WS in the last 10 years won it because of what Beane did. Every single team in MLB has copied him, and if you can’t accept that fact then youre just delusional – bye
You’re the one that started the troll with that first sophomoric post, and now this SS. FYI been more movies made about the Yanks then the A’s FOOL.
You can go on and on and on, it doesn’t change the fact Beane hasn’t won squat.
Yes, he was ahead of the curve in looking at stats that other teams werent. But he has been very bad with trades. He trades anyone whos good just because theyre good. They arent even pegged to make any money or put them over their financial capabilities and he trades them. I wouldnt be surprised to see him blow up the team once more in one to two years. Beane was smart in one area and has been absolutely incompetent in most others. Seems like youve been swayed greatly by the said book and movie.
If the Royals can win a WS, so can the A’s. Thing is the Royals played smart and Beane trades MVPs for questioning him.
Donaldson was traded because of he was going to sign an extension, it would have been larger than the one Kyle Seager had just signed before the A’s/Jays blockbuster
+JD
If the A’s didnt want to sign an extension they didnt have to. Donaldson just entered his final year of arbitration. I dont think that the money he has gotten over the course of his career wouldve broke the bank for the A’s.
Just because they didnt want to sign an extension doesnt mean they HAD to trade him.
I’m predicting a 3 way trade : A’s, Yankees & (Mets or rays). Archer or deGrom to the Yanks … gray to the A’s and Yankee/A’s each dangle a couple prospects.
Beane is brilliant and everyone has copied him again in the recent prospect craze. Now prospects are over valued by their teams … can’t wait for the next innovation! Go A’s!!
BTW – if MLBPA wanted to fix their issue with with a lack of free agents signings, the union should address the minimum salary and protect some of these young kids in their first couple years. Change the minimum salary to $2 million a year and even out the playing field.
Not really, he also had 3 years where he’s raked in $52 million. That’s $52 million the A’s saved for 1.5 years of MVP production … just hope Barretto can become who we all hope he will
It’s amazing how A’s fans feel about those 3 players now. I still think those 3 guys (Kap , Mateo and Fowler) will do well but um……Kap hasn’t pitched since 2016, Mateo has a OPS under .650 in the minors and Fowler has a below .650 OPS in the majors. Was the fuss about?
Yea leading up to that trade last year these same people were screaming Torres+
Did you honestly think they were all going to be all-stars in their first season? They are young and have massive ceilings, I wouldn’t worry or care or want to trade any of them.
Those 3 players netted Gray but Gray cant net two of those same 3 players? Thats the point he is making. That their value shouldnt have changed much since they were traded for the same guy. No one is saying “ohhh theyre not all stars after one year so they suck” and you are being disingenuous by arguing from that point.
Did you not read where I said I think all 3 will eventually do well?
Nothing to see here, move along.
Why? They be selling low on him.
Because you aren’t going to win every trade. It’s much better to take a small hit to the pride than to keep him and continue to take small hits until they become large hits. Trade him off in a change of scenery deal
Agreed. As a DBacks fan, I wish the front office would’ve just bit the bullet and traded Shelby Miller when he was healthy, even though it was coming off of a disastrous season performance wise
If Mateo gets traded, they could non-tender Sonny after the season, after which he re-signs with Oakland.
Huh? What does one thing have to do with the other?
Hopefully Oakland is looking at him
No thanks
Rangers should trade hamels for gray
Gray is NOT a bad pitcher. He just hasn’t learned to pitch in Yankee Stadium..
3.62 era on the road vs a 7 something era at home. 9/12 hrs this season came in NY. He might need a more pitcher friendly ballpark.
While likely true, other GMs are not going to hope for the best & actually trade useful or valuable prospects for him. Like AJ Burnett, another team will take off your hands for a lottery ticket or two. However, that does nothing to improve the Yankees for this year. If Sheffield was ready, he’d be up by now. The Yankees need a starter who is an immediate upgrade and Gray won’t get them that.
I never stated nor implicated he COULD get better than what he himself is. That point is silly for anyone to argue. I was simply saying that his issues seem to be more related to Yankee Stadium because of actual statistics, home/road splits. However, those interested in him are probably aware of his road numbers and would feel like they could get more out of him. That in itself isn’t going to get you MORE than his real value but value is there none the less. Gray + prospects would be the likely price to get something better than who Gray in YS is.
No. Gray decreases the value of any trade unless there is a big contract going to the Yankees. You are describing a trade the Yankees would make to acquire prospects not one they’d make to acquire a better starter.
Gray and Walker for Hamels.
The Rangers would be lucky to get Walker for Hamels straight up let alone Gray with him.
I have to think that “bit of interest” is contingent upon NYY sending a top prospect along with Gray to a team for another SP.
Gray for Hamels. Cheaper option for Rangers. Win-win for everyone.
Add to the idea; Yanks get Drew Robinson and Rangers get Drury.
Hamels’ not going to the Yankees, too many HRs allowed.
I wouldn’t be surprised to see NYY trade Gray to DET for Zimmerman straight up. Simms finally has his neck issues under control and is quietly having an excellent season. Since May his WHIP is 1.0 or less & his last 20 IP he has a 20 K/BB ratio. All of this is 2 yrs late for the Tigers but perfect timing for NYY. Zimmerman becomes their #2 and they can afford his remaining yrs, which could be very reasonable if he stays healthy. Tigers get a cheaper innings eater in Gray and dumps Zimm’s salary.
Lmao! I’m having a heart attack.
Glad to amuse you. It’s not like pitching wins championships. It’s not like NYY another starter with a FIP under 4.0. Apparently you believe 1 is enough or that every other MLB team is the Yankees farm team. The Yankees don’t have the prospects, or the desire to empty the farm, to trade for a top young controllable arm like de Grom so picking up salary is the best option. Cashman will presumably opt for do nothing like last year when they could have traded for JV.
The Yankees absolutely DO have what it would take to get DeGrom. Whether they choose to do it is another story which has nothing to do with taking on Zimmerman and the 2/$40 mil due. He’s a marginal upgrade MAYBE over Tanaka and Sabathia. Plus he’s not very good away from Comerica. Too much of a risk that he can turn back into a pumpkin because of his splits, his diminishing velocity and is career low GB% of 31%. Attach that to the fact of his $40 mil due and there’s no way he should be viewed as an “asset”. Grey is a lot less of a risk vs reward.
Zimmerman is a significant upgrade over everyone except Severino. He could regress just like Sonny Gray could continue to be just as bad for another team. The point is that Zimmerman can be acquired for money alone, no prospects. Zimmerman isn’t an ‘asset’ in the traditional sense because of his contract. However, the Yankees can afford him and I’m sure the Tigers would throw in some $$ if the Yankees included a lower level prospect. De Grom will cost the Yankees Torres + Sheffield + 1 or 2 others and Cashman hasn’t shown any interest in doing that. While Gray’s home/away split is dramatic Zimmerman’s is just noise. Small sample sizes do that. Bottom line is the only value Gray has is in a trade for a contract another team doesn’t want. The Yankees can’t even get a replacement for him otherwise.
Avila is that you again?
Cashman
Cashman, how deep do you think you’ll make it into the playoffs with Severino & the pen?
Avila
Farther then the Tiggers!
Which is why they don’t need the really nice numbers Zimmerman is putting up. I’m looking forward to watching JV eliminate the Yankees again, if they even make it that far.
No more, maybe even less with Zimmerman and his 2/$40 due past this season?
Braves will absolutely show interest if they haven’t already, they have always liked this guy. He’s been horrendously bad at home (7.62 ERA, 1.89 WHIP) but as good as always on the road (3.62 ERA, 1.19 WHIP). Pretty clear he just needs a change of scenery and could only dream of the Yankees letting him go for a big discount.
Wouldn’t mind the braves going after him, but it would have to be for super cheap
I’d drive him to the airport
Happ’s line today: 5IP, 4H, 1ER, 0W, 9K.
Pretty sure the Yanks would take that every 5 days.
Too bad he only pitches like that every 15 days.
LMFAO it was the O’s. Try again.
The attraction of Gray is that a team can get him back to his prior years form, so that they can flip him once more or make their own playoff push. I think the Yankees could package him with prospects for an upgrade at SP. His value may be at its lowest but his value is still decent. A young SP that is just having a hard time pitching in NY that showed he was a top of the league pitcher in every year but this one should draw some interest. Reminds me of AJ Burnett. Im sure the Rays would actually be interested in Gray. Not sure theyd give up Snell but Gray+prospects could land them Snell, Archer, or Eovaldi (even though if youre pushing Gray out you could get way more than Eovaldi)
AJ Burnett is a good analogy. The Yankees sent him + cash to the Pirates for a prospect the quickly cut and another who came up for a cup of coffee 2 years later. That’s what Gray is currently worth.
I think that the AJ Burnett situation showed that because AJ Burnett is still a good pitcher (just not in NY), the Yankees could have gotten more from him. I think the Yankees could get more than cash plus two lottos for Gray. I can see a package for a really good SP that includes Gray+prospects. Gray on his own could probably net a mid level prospect or two.
Hind sight is 20/20. Plenty of change of scenery trades never work out so no GM worth the title will pay for risk, especially with the $$ Gray is getting. The Yankees obviously could not get anything more for Burnett because he had an ERA of 11.91 in August of 2011 and they kept running him out there in the middle of a pennant race. They knew they wanted to dump him but his value couldn’t get any lower than it already was.
Most teams are aware Gray benefited greatly from pitching in Oakland, where there’s more foul territory than pretty much every other park.
Lo and behold, Gray has a a career 3.50 ERA/1.168 WHIP/.235 BAA in Oakland.
And he’s got a 6.55 ERA/1.61 WHIP/.273 BAA in Yankee Stadium.
So there ya go.
Grey and Walker to Seattle for Healy (assuming the Yankees get another starter in a separate deal)?
lmao Healy is the worst player in MLB
Back to A’s so that we can fix the Sonny…
Cafardo wants to stir the pot. Heyman wants the Yankees needing a lot of starting pitching in 2018/19 Free Agent signing season because Keuchel (Boras client) is in the mix.
The Yankees have Severino and bunch of 4/5 starters. If they didn’t have the monster offense and excellent pen they’d be out the race. That approach might work against Seattle but won’t against BOS, CLE, & HOU.
Refined mechanics. He’s fine now. Last two starts have been good
Yeah, good against the Orioles and Mets. Personally I dont think Sonny is a bad pitcher but two good starts against the Orioles and Mets are not anything to bank on. I would wait his next start or two to see if he can continue forward like that.
seems like a decent cheap option for the pirates with that extra year of control that will allow them to make room for Baz/Keller in the future. However if they Yankees think they’re getting a top 100 back in return they’re nuts, even more so from the pirates. (not that either side is that interested)
couple top 15 Orgs types and/or a MLB player at a ‘needed’ position. mercer, osuna, or freese? duno what the yankees ‘need’
Not position players. Not in the slightest.
good to know., want Nova back? 😀 (/s)