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Reds Acquire Ryan Lillie From Marlins For International Spending Capacity

By Ty Bradley | October 6, 2018 at 4:28pm CDT

The Reds have acquired right-hander Ryan Lillie from the Marlins for international bonus money, per C. Trent Rosecrans of the Athletic (Twitter link). $750K of availability is going to Miami in the swap, per MLB.com’s Jesse Sanchez (via Twitter).

Lillie, 22, was a fifth round pick of the Marlins in the 2017 draft.  Though he showed plus command (1.12 BB/9 for Low-A Greensboro this season) in his initial low-level taste, Lillie seems little more than organizational depth at this point: at season’s end, he didn’t rank in the top thirty for a mid-pack Marlins system in any major publication.  Baseball America (subscription required) does note that he has a chance to be a back-end reliever, lauding his ’above-average’ slider, though the Marlins used him almost exclusively in a starting role.

For the Marlins, the incentive seems clear: stockpile as much international bonus pool money as possible in hopes of luring star free agent Victor Victor Mesa to Miami.  The Fish, who began the day with $4.3MM in pool money, have baseball’s second-highest total in that department and figure to be key players for the 22-year-old when the time comes.

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  1. nmendoza7

    7 years ago

    this is a “lil” deal

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    • Strauss

      7 years ago

      So after reading the article it means he could be a starter for the reds

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      • bigredsfan41017

        7 years ago

        Hopefully the Reds have learned from their youth experiment the last 4 years as Castellini going to actually raise the team payroll to the highest ever since he became owner of the Reds! They said they are going to sign a few veteran starters this off season! The Reds this year had their lost attendance since 1984, because people just don’t want to spend money to watch a losing team!

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  2. GONEcarlo

    7 years ago

    Increasing the coffers for Mesa

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  3. bigturtlemachine

    7 years ago

    Interesting pick up. Lillie throws in the mid-90s, features a promising slider and a developing change. Converted from catcher in college, as was Kevin Shackelford, Lillie is a fresh arm who potentially can be a back-end type reliever.

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  4. kevin raudt

    7 years ago

    I think Fish should sign Mary Hartman,Mary Hartman.

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  5. formerlyz

    7 years ago

    Lillie was poised for a jump next year. He has flashed high velocity, and has been improving. Hasnt been a pitcher for that long. Hope this isnt another prospect just given away, and they at least sign these 3 guys. Marlins have made countless terrible trades over the last several years

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    • marlins17

      7 years ago

      Weren’t we just talking about this? Ryan Lillie wasnt a throw away prospect. We better have picked up all of Reds remaining money and that better be about a millipn dollars.

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      • formerlyz

        7 years ago

        Ya. It bothered me when I saw it, and I was just trying to say something positive for once, and focus on the actual international spending, assuming they get these guys, although there are questions I have about all of them.

        Ryan Lillie was poised to make the kinds of jumps that Pablo Lopez made last year, not necessarily to the big leagues, and Castillo previously, as well as a couple of other similar breakouts from the Marlins lower minor leagues over the last few years. Just look at Michael King with the Yankees…Lillie was lauded for his makeup coming out of college, and I remember them being really high on him too. If he hadnt been hurt for that stretch this year, he may have reached higher levels, and ended up in the middle of the top 30, as he was trending before the injury. The thought was he wouldnt need long to make the big leagues as a reliever, even as he was learning to pitch, but they liked his makeup enough to try him as a starter, as they thought he could do it, and it would be a good learning experience for him, even if they ended up turning him back into a reliever

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        • Phanatic 2022

          7 years ago

          King looks goooood

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        • Franklin Hall

          7 years ago

          I don’t understand your comment.

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  6. Franklin Hall

    7 years ago

    Here is a trade I would like to see the Reds’ make: Trade Eugenio Suarez OR Jose Peraza to the Miami Marlins for Luke Snell and Wye Yin Chen,. The Reds’ would also send Billy Hamilton and Dilson Herrera to complete the trade. Suarez and Peraza both live in Miami, and would probably love to play in their home town. If the Marlins prefer Suarez, the Reds would then have a position for Nick Senzel. If the Marlins prefer Peraza, the Reds could move Suarez to his natural position or have an opportunity to try prospect Rodriguez at short. Also, Billy Hamilton has said he would love to play center field in the Marlins park. Dilson Herrera could be the Marlins fourth outfielder and he is coming on strong and needs more playing time. Their move would also free up some room for Tyler Trammell, Aristedes Aquino, and Fairchild. I really like Suarez so I would hope the Marlins would prefer Peraza. I think this would be a great trade for both teams. What do you think?

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    • mlb1225

      7 years ago

      lol, I thought you were serious for a second

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      • Franklin Hall

        7 years ago

        I don’t get your comment.

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    • titanic struggle

      7 years ago

      Suarez and Peraza aren’t going anywhere, and Senzel is learning to play the outfield…

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      • Franklin Hall

        7 years ago

        I like both Suarez and Peraza, but to make a good trade you have to trade power for power. Senzel is learning to play the outfield because they want to find a spot in the lineup for him. If an infield position came open, then Senzel could fit in. Really, the Reds need southpaw starters, as does every team in the NL Central. This would meet that need. You can’t get pitchers like Snell and Chen by offering prospects.

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    • Isthisserious

      7 years ago

      If Suarez wanted to play in Miami, he would not have resigned in Cincy.

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    • DMC511

      7 years ago

      So you want the reds to trade their top producer on offense, plus Hamilton and Herrera for an aging over paid pitcher and a seemingly made up player in Luke Snell?

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      • Franklin Hall

        7 years ago

        Boy, do I feel stupid! You can forget my comments. I was sure Blake Snell was on the Marlins’. Actually, he is on the Rays, and the Reds would still like to have him.

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  7. Franklin Hall

    7 years ago

    That’s a pretty weak objection. He probably took a chance to get some security for his family.

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    • titanic struggle

      7 years ago

      You obviously know little about Suarez or the Reds. He loves it here and is a cornerstone of their rebuilding process. Yes, every team would like to have a good left handed starter, but you don’t trade a 30/100 still improving player under a great contract to get one.

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