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Valdez, Suarez Among Orioles’ Targets In Continuing Rotation Search

By Darragh McDonald | January 6, 2026 at 8:51am CDT

Jan. 6: Both Framber Valdez and Ranger Suarez remain under consideration by the Orioles, reports Andy Kostka of the Baltimore Banner. The O’s have already been reported to have interest in both lefties, but that was prior to their recent slate of pitching acquisitions and prior to their $155MM signing of Alonso, so it’s notable that they’re still shopping in the deep end of the free agent pool even after spending a combined $195MM in free agency and taking on another $26MM or so via trade.

Jan. 5: The Orioles have made a couple of rotation moves in recent weeks but that doesn’t necessarily mean they’re done. Ken Rosenthal and Will Sammon of The Athletic report today that the club is still looking for another starting pitcher, which could be either via free agency or the trade market.

Adding to the rotation has been an obvious goal for quite a while. Baltimore starters posted a collective 4.65 earned run average in 2025, which was better than just six other clubs in the majors. At season’s end, Tomoyuki Sugano and Zach Eflin became free agents, further thinning out the group.

Accordingly, the O’s have been connected to a wide number of free agents and trade candidates this winter. They made a notable move a couple of weeks ago, sending four prospects and a draft pick to the Rays for Shane Baz. A week ago, they brought back Eflin via a one-year, $10MM deal with a mutual option for 2027.

If the season started today, the rotation would feature Kyle Bradish, Trevor Rogers, Baz and Eflin in four spots. Dean Kremer would be the favorite for the final slot. Guys like Tyler Wells, Chayce McDermott, Cade Povich and Brandon Young also on the roster but have options and could be sent to the minors if everyone is healthy. Albert Suárez is back on a minor league deal and prospect Trey Gibson is also lurking as another non-roster option.

That’s a decent group, and a team source describes it as “adequate” to The Athletic. For a club looking to rebound from a nightmare season, it’s understandable that they still want more. That’s especially true considering it’s hard to rely on this collection of arms.

Bradish just returned from Tommy John surgery late last year and made just six starts. He only made eight starts in 2024 before the surgery, so that’s just 14 starts and 77 1/3 innings over the past two years. Wells is similar, having made just seven starts over the past two years due to his own elbow surgery. Rogers was great last year but limited to 18 starts by a knee injury. Due to multiple ailments over his career, he’s never topped 133 innings in a big league season. Baz took the ball 31 times in 2025 and logged 166 1/3 frames but that was his first time going beyond 14 starts and his first time hitting the 80-inning mark. Eflin underwent back surgery in August. He recently said he’s hoping to be ready by Opening Day but that doesn’t seem to be a lock.

Adding another arm would make things a bit cluttered if everyone is healthy, but that’s a big if, considering the total track record of the group. Given the number of depth options, the O’s would presumably be looking for more upside with another rotation addition.

Rosenthal and Sammon mention Framber Valdez, Ranger Suárez and Zac Gallen as free agent possibilities, in addition to trade candidates Edward Cabrera, Freddy Peralta and MacKenzie Gore. That appears to simply be a list of the best pitchers still available, as opposed to reporting on anyone the O’s are specifically targeting, though the club has been connected to those free agents as well as Cabrera and Gore earlier in the offseason.

RosterResource projects the O’s for a payroll of $147MM next year. They opened 2025 at $165MM, per Cot’s Baseball Contracts. Signing one of the Valdez/Suárez/Gallen trio would likely require the O’s to pay $20 to $30MM annually. That would involve going beyond last year’s spending but not by much. It’s also possible they could save themselves a few bucks if they can trade Ryan Mountcastle, now that the Pete Alonso signing crowds him out. Mountcastle is projected by MLBTR contributor Matt Swartz for a $7.8MM salary this year.

The trade candidates would cost less financially. Peralta will make just $8MM next year. Gore and Cabrera are projected for $4.7MM and $3.7MM respectively. But of course, the O’s would have to send something of value to those other clubs in trade. As mentioned, the O’s just sent out a big package of prospects in the Baz deal, which may lower their desire to further deplete the farm system with another big trade.

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  1. twozero6ix

    1 day ago

    Luis Castillo salary dump so Jerry can go out and cook

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    • hauntedhammer

      1 day ago

      I doubt his contract gets dumped unless the team collapses

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      • Astros71

        1 day ago

        Mariners don’t want to trade from their major league roster.

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  2. jvent

    1 day ago

    The Mets have Senga and Pintaro for reliever Trevor Rogers and Kjerstad

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    • Astros71

      1 day ago

      They are ADDING starting pitching, not subtracting.

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    • RedFraggle

      1 day ago

      Reliever trevor rogers? Lol

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      • Astros71

        1 day ago

        He’s making a fool of himself.

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    • ba$eba||F@n21

      13 hours ago

      You can have Kjerstad but we will be keeping the reliever Trevor Rogers – sorry, he’s untouchable and will be the best closer in baseball this year!

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  3. HEHEHATE

    1 day ago

    I hope the cabrera ship sailed here, but its still possible.

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  4. Astros71

    1 day ago

    Sign Ranger Suarez and be done with it

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  5. td272

    1 day ago

    For O’s to really compete need a TOR starter and at least one more reliable bullpen arm.

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    • Dimitri_in_LA

      1 day ago

      This starting rotation already looks pretty good, with depth, including some of the younger guys, but they indeed need a top of the rotation starter. I frankly think they need more than one piece to add to the bullpen as well.

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      • kzw

        1 day ago

        Agree with both of you. In my opinion, they could make the playoffs with the rotation/depth that they have, but winning a playoff series is going to be awfully tough without that top of the rotation guy.

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        • James123

          9 hours ago

          rodgers/bradish and hope Baz or Elfin are pitching well.

          I think that is not a terrible playoff rotation.

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      • Baltimore_44

        14 hours ago

        Yeah I don’t feel great about the set up men yet. We don’t have a lefty who is tough on lefties out of the pen. Kittredge and Helsley is a solid back end. But Enns, Akin, Cano, Garcia etc. all come with concerns.

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      • Jackson Rubbit

        13 hours ago

        Ranger Suarez is not a 1 or 2 . Ranger likes to eat.

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        • WadeBoggsWildRide

          13 hours ago

          Framber and Peralta are the only true 2’s available. Not a fan of Frambo.

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        • Heels On The Field

          12 hours ago

          He has a bad back. That’s worse than most arm injuries and totally unpredictable.

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    • RedFraggle

      1 day ago

      Really hoping for Nunez to shine in what will be his first MLB action.

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  6. AssumesFactNotInEvidence

    1 day ago

    A six man rotation coming up hopefully or alternatively but noveau each of the six starters gets a month off during the season due to arm fatigue a trip to IL

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  7. angt222

    1 day ago

    Baltimore should spend big for Valdez. Could also see a cheap veteran add like Verlander.

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    • NineChampionships

      1 day ago

      Mountcastle trade to…. Pirates? Rays? Marlins? Guardians?

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      • Ezpkns34

        1 day ago

        Trade him? Don’t see a team even claiming him if he hit waivers

        $7M for a replacement level 1B is just bad resource allocation, baffling decision not to non-tender him

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        • StevieP23

          1 day ago

          Insurance in case they didn’t sign a 1B and Mayo regresses.

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        • King Floch

          14 hours ago

          He was replacement level in an injury-marred 2025, but had been an above average hitter in every season of his career before that, and he has developed into a solid defensive 1B.

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        • Thornton Mellon

          13 hours ago

          Floch
          You’re missing the trajectory with Mountcastle and its leading to an overestimation of his value. You’re not the only one, I think that’s why he’s still an Oriole today.

          2023 was his peak value season because he walked a little more and OBP was up 20-30 points. That was the last year he exhibited 20+ HR power. 2024’s pace was < 20, last year even worse. Wrong way to trend. Last year he provided no value for a 1B/DH, let's not even say "replacement." He's regressed with the K rate up and the BB rate down in 2024 and 2025.

          I would even say he even did not display helpful platoon advantages. He would get up and swing at a ton of low and away breaking pitches. (He also should never have batted 4th, but that's not his fault that he kept being put there)

          The only year he was above average defensively was 2024. 2023 had some above average zone stats thrown in and negative dWAR. 2025 was negative across the board. Granted, 0 errors. But only 56 appearances. I don't think he hurt the team last year when at 1B but noticeable good plays he had in 2024 were absent.

          The rest of the league would read him as seeing the down trend in 2024-2025, not the way Orioles/O's fans seem to read ("look what he could do based upon how he did in 2023")

          He's also had injuries the past three seasons and has never appeared in more than 150 games regardless of position.

          Why they tendered him was questionable even before Alonso, but now they have to dump the salary. They have to hope a team thinks they can salvage him.

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        • King Floch

          13 hours ago

          I don’t think Mountcastle has a ton of trade value, but I also don’t think he has zero value either.

          He was likely tendered as insurance in case a big 1B/DH bat could not be signed or traded for, and he can still be released with the team only being on the hook for a small portion of his arbitration salary if no one is interested in trading for him by the time spring training rolls around.

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        • James123

          9 hours ago

          i agree- but with that, his salary is likely the top of the market for him. In trade they are likely only getting another market value guy. There are a few of those deals around the league that this does open up. The contracts where the guy is making 15-20m and worth basically 15-20m, and the team wants to move on- but do not want to be accused of a salary dump, can take on mountcastle to save money and point to the quality of the player they got back.

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    • DolemiteisMyname

      1 day ago

      Verlander is not cheap

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      • Astros71

        1 day ago

        Well, unless you get a discount.

        (O’s aren’t getting a discount)

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  8. Cohn Joppolella

    1 day ago

    Bryce Elder is probably available.

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  9. Lefty_Orioles_Fan

    1 day ago

    deGrom baby and all in for 2026!!!

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    • Astros71

      1 day ago

      Rangers aren’t trading deGrom.

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    • King Floch

      13 hours ago

      I would definitely have conditional interest if Texas actually shops him, but I would really prefer a workhorse frontline starter (i.e. Peralta) if we can find one.

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    • rct

      9 hours ago

      deGrom has a full NTC. Not sure if he’d be willing to waive it.

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      • Astros71

        6 hours ago

        Well, if the Rangers tear down, maybe. Or if the team is more competitive.

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  10. MacGromit

    1 day ago

    Please just sign the TOR, Mikey. The starter market and trades have been talked out. Just need to ink the guy.

    Who do you all think would be the best bullpen piece that Baltimore could use? Seems to me that a lefty 8th inning table setter with the possibility of giving Helsley a night off would be ideal but who is that and is that arm available?

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    • kalki

      1 day ago

      Trevor McGill

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    • AssumesFactNotInEvidence

      1 day ago

      Sign Danger Ranger to 3/90 and put T Wells in the BP?

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      • Baltimore_44

        14 hours ago

        Moving Tyler Wells to the pen doesn’t change the fact we don’t have a lefty who actually gets lefties out.

        Probably has to be a trade. Might be at the deadline.

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        • AssumesFactNotInEvidence

          13 hours ago

          I hope Akins splits against LHH will bounce back a bit and Wells, though a RHP, has 0.602 career OPS against LHH., though his splits against LHH weren’t good in 2025 either…hoping for a double bounce back lol…

          How about a reunion with Danny Coulombe?

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        • Baltimore_44

          13 hours ago

          Yeah hopefully. Not much to draw from Wells’ 21 innings last year. Splits are pretty useless from a sample that small.

          Still think we need a real left hander. Soto is a bit of a rollercoaster but was very good against lefties last year. I thought a reunion with him was possible.

          I was under the impression they didn’t like Coulombe’s medicals last year when they declined the option. I can’t imagine they feel better now. He’s probably the best option out there though.

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        • AssumesFactNotInEvidence

          12 hours ago

          But Akin’s sample size against LHH in 2025 was enough to state he can’t get LHH out? 45 PAs, small sample size; 106 PAs big enough, not sure I agree…

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        • Baltimore_44

          12 hours ago

          I don’t think Keegan Akin should be the best lefty in your bullpen. He was lucky last year. Not very encouraging to see the K’s down, walks up and HR’s up.

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        • O'sSayCanYouSee

          11 hours ago

          Recall about Akin that 2025 was his first year back after missing 2024. Akin has been a very good arm in the Orioles pen for a while now as he’s filled every roll in the pen at times. Before ’25 he had a wipe out slider to pair with his pin-point fastball command. Last year he was getting re-established from the year off, and his slider wasn’t ever there. If he finds that pitch again, or adjusts with his new 2seam and change up (which he tilted to last year when the slider failed him), he can still be the guy he always was.

          He’s never been bad, often been good, and sometimes very good. He’s mind set is solid, and he competes on the mound and doesn’t wilt.

          To me, there’s bigger holes then trying to up grade Akin. From starter to closer, and everything in between, Akin has done it. There’s a lot of value in an arm like that, even if that value isn’t manifested in dollars or attention. 2 cents anyway.

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        • Baltimore_44

          11 hours ago

          Akin was a bad starter and got hit very hard in 2023 in a small sample size.

          I think Akin is a perfectly fine reliever—-I just don’t think we have enough. The fastball should Soto was supposed to be the top lefty option out of the pen. We’re relying on Dietrich Enns to pan out.

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        • O'sSayCanYouSee

          10 hours ago

          If your a saying we need another lefty in the Pen, then yeah, of course we need one/two other options. For sure.

          The bull pen is incomplete at this point…but that will change.

          I also think that a lot of those arms Elias got at the trade deadline are ticketed for bullpen only rolls, and should provide the bull pen depth. Most of those guys are high octane fastballs with big secondary offerings.

          Cano and Bautista came outta nowhere when Elias traded for them, and since bull pen arms are so quixotic in the first place, having optionable depth at league minimum vs. MLB contracts for iffy guys and no options, I’d choose the former.

          Is there a power lefty bull pen guy like Soto in free agency?

          ((Keegan did have ERA+ of 118 in ’25, and a closer look at ’23 sees his FIP 2.96 vs. 6.85 ERA and screams bad luck. ((His ’25 ERA 3.41…4.94 FIP! I guess all’s fair in baseball))

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        • Thornton Mellon

          9 hours ago

          I want to say Akin was overused early last year and then miscast as a closer. That put a damper on 2025.

          He was very good in 2024 used properly and not overused, as a middle reliever.

          Is he dominant? No, and they could probably use another lefty reliever to help. Is he at least a decent piece? Should be.

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  11. Sean P

    1 day ago

    Not surprised. Thinking Shane Baz was the answer and rolling with the current pitching staff is gonna produce similar results as 2025. I could see Ranger or Framber fitting in nicely there.

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    • WadeBoggsWildRide

      1 day ago

      I would go for Peralta if the prospect cost isn’t terrible. Ranger would be my second choice.

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    • Jackson Rubbit

      13 hours ago

      Ranger Suarez is a good number 3 maybe.

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      • Heels On The Field

        12 hours ago

        When he can pitch. Who knows when he will be able to.

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    • James123

      9 hours ago

      the moves this season look like the moves last season.

      They basically need 3 mid range guys…. like Morton, Sugano and Elfin last year. They already picked Elfin back up. So the question is if they like their depth enough to go big on FRambler- or if they want to diversify.

      I am shocked they did not go for guys like Mahle and other injury concerns with mid rotation upside. They seem to be a lot cheaper this offseason than last. I would take Mahle at 11m long before i took Frankie Montas at 15m (even without the 4m savings, i take Mahle now vs. Montas last year)

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  12. Harvbanger

    1 day ago

    Baltimore wants pitching. Pirates need a 3rd baseman. How fair is this trade? Baltimore sends Coby Mayo to Pittsburgh for Hunter Barco & Tom
    Harrington

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    • bill l

      1 day ago

      You don’t want to trust Mayo starting at 3rd. Worse than Mountcastle was there before they moved him across the diamond.

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    • Astros71

      1 day ago

      You are not getting both of them for only Coby Mayo.

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      • James123

        9 hours ago

        Mayo and Mountcastle for Keller

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        • Astros71

          6 hours ago

          Looks good, but O’s should aim higher than Keller. No offense.

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    • os4life

      1 day ago

      Where do we sign! Mayo needs a change of scenery in the worst way. He’s only a year removed from being the top power hitter prospect in all of baseball. What’s the deal with Ashcroft? Is he considered a better prospect than Barco? I’m a big fan of Harrington. Seems to have all the makings of a back of the rotation starter. What’s up with Temar, is he still a top 100 prospect? I really thought his bat was legit coming out of HS.

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    • O'sSayCanYouSee

      1 day ago

      Harv — The Orioles are looking for a TOR guy, and neither Barco or Harrington have done any thing in MLB yet and wouldn’t fit the Orioles needs.

      Trading Mayo would mean a Edward Cabrera or Gore type of player with MLB exposure.

      The Pirates are probably done dealing their MLB SP that the O’s would trade for. I don’t see them lining up unless it’s like Jones. (And PIT would/should not entertain that trade). As I see it anyway.

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      • BugEyed1

        1 day ago

        Yeah, I don’t see PIT trading any pitchers, including both Jones and Harrington. The staff will win a lot of games and their depth is enviable. BAL should get after Gore. To me, Gore is a 2 or 3 in mamy rotations, but an easy 1 or 2 in BAL. Maybe an exit from WAS, more run support and playing in a pitcher’s park might help move Gore into more elite status.

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        • basemonkey 2

          20 hours ago

          Camden Yards isn’t a pitchers park. With the altered dimensions, it’s pretty neutral now, skews a little towards pitchers but by just a point or too over the mean.

          Also, Bradish is better than Gore by a large margin (if healthy). Gore isn’t a “easy 1 or 2” over him. Rogers still needs to put in more innings, but he had a historic run last year of consecutive sub-2.00 ERA games. He’s pretty good too.

          Sounds like you only know the Os from a distance, but not really.

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    • holecamels35

      14 hours ago

      Harrington is not enough, Barco is borderline too much, interesting proposal though. Things might start to get a bit dicey defensively if the Pirates are starting Lowe and Mayo in the infield every day.

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      • Baltimore_44

        14 hours ago

        Pirates may have the pitching to make up for weak infield defense.

        I don’t think anything comes together between Pitt and Balt though.

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  13. Nicholas Zych

    1 day ago

    Why not check out Martin Perez. He rejected $10 million dollars from the Chisox, maybe he has lowered his price?

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    • vtadave

      10 hours ago

      Age-35 season coming up

      Missed 4 months with a bum shoulder

      Velocity way down

      Not very good since 2022

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    • kalki

      10 mins ago

      Perez sucks, has a career of sucking and is old af. He is a big downgrade from Kremer or a long reliever like Tyler Wells. Worst idea I have heard for the Orioles.

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  14. scruffmcgruff

    1 day ago

    My preference would be that kremer gets pushed to long relief/swingman rather than wells going to the pen. But at the same time both wells and bradish literally just came back from injuries. They did look really good for their part but I imagine some load management is necessary.

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    • bill l

      1 day ago

      They know they can get Dean to eat innings and will count on matchups with other #4 or 5 pitchers now that they can generate more offense.

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    • AssumesFactNotInEvidence

      1 day ago

      I prefer Wells to the BP and Kremer 5/6 SP…

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      • James123

        9 hours ago

        Kremer is really a 4/5 type. He really is a league average SP for the most part.

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    • Baltimore_44

      14 hours ago

      Wells won’t pitch 150+ innings and Kremer is a lock.

      I don’t think Wells is better than Kremer either. We just watch Kremer pitch every 5 days every season. Wells hasn’t been on the field enough and has been fortunate to outpitch his peripherals. I think they’re the same caliber of pitcher with one having much more availability.

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      • James123

        9 hours ago

        Wells has more glaring issues (the long ball, and potentially walks). Kremer is an every day eddy. I think you give both of them 150 innings and the ratios will look similar- but Kremer will have more solid outings, and Wells will have more gems and getting chased in the 2nd.

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  15. bill l

    1 day ago

    Stop it with saying McDermott is starter depth. He’s been pegged for development as a pen arm, and might not even get up to snuff there in his last season of club control.

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    • zantigm

      14 hours ago

      McDermott is no longer a top prospect

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  16. Goose

    1 day ago

    I don’t understand why they didn’t jump in on the Japanese pitcher. Maybe they are trying to trade Mayo or other guys that don’t seem to have a position for something of real quality.

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    • bill l

      1 day ago

      They may have been ultra cautious about Imai after the bad move on Sugano last year, not willing to go that high for several years even for someone who’s clearly got more upside but is still unproven in MLB.

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      • King Floch

        13 hours ago

        I wouldn’t say Sugano was a “bad move,” just not a great move.

        He was a fairly competent innings eater and there is value in that.

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        • Baltimore_44

          13 hours ago

          There was 0 upside in the Sugano signing and for $13MM that’s a pretty bad gamble. Someone who couldn’t get whiffs in Japan was going to have a very hard time delivering in the MLB. We were fortunate his bottom line numbers weren’t worse than what they were.

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        • King Floch

          13 hours ago

          We signed him to eat innings and he ate innings.

          In a vacuum, it was fine. Not good, and definitely not great, but fine.

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        • bill l

          10 hours ago

          If you look at his game logs, you can see he had trouble getting past the 5th inning, and was sometimes even knocked out earlier, most of his starts from the 1st week of June through late July. Then he went on another tailspin during almost all his starts the final month of the season. Whereas Kremer usually bounced back after one bad start, about half Sugano’s starts were quite bad over fairly long patches. Also led the league in HRs allowed. Not my definition of an innings eater or “competence.”

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        • James123

          9 hours ago

          I agree- Sugano was basically as advertised. They paid him around 15m which is #4 starter money these days- and it was a 1 year (very short) deal.

          Morton and Eflin were the signings that blew up in their face. They thought they had 2 mid rotation guys and got hot garbage.

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        • Thornton Mellon

          9 hours ago

          Sugano was spun as a 3/4 type starting rotation piece and a control guy who could keep the ball in the yard. I had concerns that his stuff might get hammered in MLB/AL East and wilt in summer heat.

          He did not perform up to expectations overall, nor did he provide $13M in value. Stats reflect a not MLB rotation quality pitcher.

          They needed to do much better. Had they brought Sugano as a swingman/spot starter with 5 better options going into last season, that would have been better. We fans were sold a lemon in 2025.

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        • bill l

          8 hours ago

          There are far less erratic #4 starters to be had at that salary. Eflin began the season as #1 with Charlie moved up to #2 because of the Rodriguez injury. Not Zach’s fault that he was shelved after his 1st 3 starts because of the recurrent back problems and never could get back to form completely in May and June. Morton looked fine out of ST. Re-signing Burnes wouldn’t have mattered, all other things begin equal.

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        • Baltimore_44

          8 hours ago

          Sugano is not a backend starter if you’re a playoff caliber team. I will honestly be surprised if he’s signed by a major league team. I can’t tell you that if he is—it’ll be for less than half of what we paid him last year.

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        • Thornton Mellon

          5 hours ago

          They have come a long way

          They dragged Morton out of retirement last year. Rodriguez never came back. Gibson had to be resurrected just to complete innings. Povich and Young did not progress. Sugano faded. Minus Rogers coming out of nowhere and late season returns for Bradish and Wells not much of a worse case could be made for the 2025 rotation.

          They needed to shoot higher. If the TOR is obtained, Kremer is the innings eating #5, Eflin and Wells are next in line/spot starting, and the meat is Bradish, Rogers, Baz.

          Not Dodgers dominant but light years better than 2025. Competitive for sure.

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        • kalki

          6 mins ago

          Eflin was not “signed” for 2025, he was still under his previous contract, acquired via trade in 2024. Keep up.

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  17. O'sSayCanYouSee

    1 day ago

    Get the TOR guy already!! Spend the prospects or the cash (which there is ample of both).

    Okay, okay…I still believe they will, just getting anxious.

    Seems like Free Agency has been going on since last year, geez. ~

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    • Astros71

      1 day ago

      Because it has

      Reply
  18. AssumesFactNotInEvidence

    1 day ago

    Moving Adley for a TOR? Adley and Mounty for TOR and a decent #2 catcher…throw in Kjerstad too

    Reply
    • Astros71

      1 day ago

      I’m pretty sure Kjerstad is just a body.

      Reply
      • imissjoebuzas

        1 day ago

        Kjeratad and Trey Gibson to Kansas City for Kris Bubic.

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        • Astros71

          1 day ago

          Tell me where the value is.

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        • Baltimore_44

          14 hours ago

          Kjerstad is an untradeable lotto ticket at this point. He has to show he’s healthy and I’m not sure that he is.

          Won’t bring back anything.

          Reply
        • Thornton Mellon

          5 hours ago

          Agree. Kjerstad will have to re-establish himself at AAA before anything can be made of him.

          Reply
    • sillywabbit

      1 day ago

      Mountcastle lowers the value of the trade package; try Adley without him.

      Reply
  19. RedFraggle

    1 day ago

    McDermott is a reliever nowwwwww

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    • zantigm

      14 hours ago

      yes and way too erratic

      Reply
  20. bighiggy

    1 day ago

    Liberatore and jojo remero for prospects?

    Reply
    • King Floch

      13 hours ago

      I would kick the tires on that.

      Reply
    • James123

      9 hours ago

      are you willing to talk outside the org top 20 prospects….. This is a deep farm system. and the 25th guy is a top 10 guy on 5-10 teams.

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  21. rememberthecoop

    1 day ago

    What about trading Westburg? I know he has upside and is already good but sometimes you gotta give to get…

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    • sillywabbit

      1 day ago

      The O’s don’t seem to keen on trading infield prospects while they’re at peak value. Imagine what Mayo would have fetched before last season. Prospect hugging sometimes bites a team.

      Reply
      • kalki

        2 mins ago

        The Orioles have traded 17 of their Top 30 prospects in the past 2+ seasons to prove false the myth of “prospect hugging,”

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    • King Floch

      14 hours ago

      We would then need to go out and sign an everyday 3B like Geno or Bregman, and I would much rather have Westburg long term.

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  22. The Saber-toothed Superfife

    14 hours ago

    Neither pitcher are power pitchers, Framber being the.more powerful.

    Reply
  23. scissormetimbers

    14 hours ago

    It’ll be nice to see the Jays and O’s at the top and the Yanks, Red Sox and Rays fighting for mediocrity.

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  24. King Floch

    14 hours ago

    No thanks on Valdez.

    Maybe on Suarez.

    Reply
  25. Salzilla

    14 hours ago

    Framber is my contest pick for the O’s. Make it happen.

    Reply
  26. oriole

    13 hours ago

    I’d rather trade for Peralta and pad the bullpen or get a better CF. Cowser ain’t it unless he’s a platoon.

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    • kalki

      57 seconds ago

      Even in a platoon, Cowser ain’t it,

      Reply
  27. Johnny U

    13 hours ago

    Just curious but a trade with the Reds for Brady Singer seems to be a match since Reds looking for offense and O’s needing an SP…I gotta think they could swing a deal

    Reply
  28. Thornton Mellon

    13 hours ago

    They have to sign Valdez or Suarez, or trade for Pivetta or Gore. It makes sense to have multiple years of control, too (Pivetta has a post-2026 opt out and Gore has 2 yrs of control). I don’t think they’re in on Cabrera or Peralta.

    I can get past Framber and the momentarily loss of self control. We all do that. See: George Brett, circa 1983.

    I’m not high on Gallen. He’s only produced one TOR quality full season.

    I’m concerned because some spin is coming. Eflin being a reclamation project who could be a huge benefit IF he regains down the stretch 2024 form (which is so far a career outlier). Baz COULD DEVELOP into a TOR type. This is the same language we saw last year when “veteran presence” and “back end stability” was being sold as a bill of goods with Tomo and Morton.

    Yes the rotation is better. But it would be hard to even call it the 4th best rotation in the division as it currently stands, and one injury away from making it easily the worst. Its not good enough. That TOR arm improves the ENTIRE rotation.

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    • King Floch

      12 hours ago

      Pivetta would be an excellent target. I totally forgot that SD was rumored to be open to trading him.

      Good suggestion.

      Reply
      • Thornton Mellon

        10 hours ago

        Floch
        Supposedly open, not just the “listening to offers” like say the Orioles might be for Henderson. But genuinely wanting to move him if the deal is right. We heard that before with Cease though and he stayed put for a long time.

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    • Baltimore_44

      12 hours ago

      I don’t disagree that this isn’t enough. But I feel much better about the upside of Eflin and Baz over the 2 last year. Those guys can actually be #3 starter types. Sugano had 0 chance to pitch like a 3 and Morton was highly unlikely at that age.

      Reply
      • Thornton Mellon

        10 hours ago

        Baltimore_44 yes they are better than they were last year for sure. There are still question marks about all but Kremer TBH (coming back from injuries mostly, what is Baz’s upside).

        Hoping its imminent. Its been a fairly slow starter market.

        Reply
  29. gr81t2

    11 hours ago

    Yes please. Sign of of these and trade for Cabrera. All in.

    Reply
  30. TheToasters

    11 hours ago

    The 7 years Cease got from Tor for being a TOR has torked the market. It’s all about the years.

    Last year the O’s offered Burnes 4 years, 180 mil. He went with close-to-home Arizona for 6 and $210, and said it came down to the years, and probably having to answer to his wife why he wouldn’t want to spend more time with her and the kids.

    (“Because I have a daily routine that I adhere to religously, and if I don’t live a monastic life, I could blow out my arm.)

    Neither Framber or Ranger is as top end as Corbin was. I would guess a 4 year offer for a starter is about the limit for the Orioles.

    But, a lot of the big spending teams are at, or over, their luxury tax limit. So the market might be cooling on over paying for the down slope years, creating an opportunity for mid market teams to get one of these arms for a more reasonable length.

    I wouldn’t be surprised if the Diamondbacks went for another big offer, but we’ll see.

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    • Thornton Mellon

      8 hours ago

      Toasters
      Valdez is 32 versus 30 for Cease, so that will decrease willingness to give extended contract regardless.

      While Ranger is also 30, Cease has 5 seasons in a row of 30+ starts, Ranger has not had any 30+ start seasons and there were questions about velocity trends.

      Toronto paid for 4-5 years of Cease being effective, like you’re getting at, the downslope years. 2 of the past 3 years of Cease’s results have been very average as well. Can argue over the past 3 years both Framber and Ranger have been better overall. I think 7 yrs was an overpay and agree that probably overwhelms my 2 points above and why these 2 are currently sitting and waiting.

      Would be really surprised if either signs for more than 5 years now.

      Reply
      • TheToasters

        53 mins ago

        I also think Imai has revealed a less all-in market. Except for the Blue Jays, teams aren’t bidding each other up.

        The luxury tax seems to be having an effect, plus the upcoming negotiations. I think the only that holds the Dodgers back, is spots on the roster.

        This would never happen, but what if one of the ultimate luxury tax penalties was losing a roster spot?

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  31. MacGromit

    9 hours ago

    Just do it, Birds

    Reply
  32. Rsox

    7 hours ago

    The starting pitching market has been mostly stagnant since the Cease signing. Hard to predict what anyone will get but i would probably choose Valdez over Suarez

    Reply
  33. rickytrommer

    4 hours ago

    I think we should trade with the Cardinals for LHRP Romero.Would they accept Mountcastle in return if we paid half his salary? That would complete the bullpen and get rid of some of the backlog at first base.

    Reply
    • td272

      3 hours ago

      Romero would be a nice add, but it would take a lot more than Mountcastle, even paying his salary down

      Reply

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