5:13pm: “A few teams” remain in talks with the Yanks, per Jack Curry of the YES Network (via Twitter).
3:49pm: The Athletics and Padres are involved, while the Reds do not appear to be, according to SNY.tv’s Andy Martino (Twitter link).
Heyman hears that the Giants have entered the picture (Twitter link). Contrary to Martino, he also suggests that the organizations previously rumored to have interest have dropped back — including the A’s and Pads as well as all of the other ballclubs listed below.
3:11pm: David O’Brien of The Athletic tweets that any trade of Gray won’t include the Braves. There have been no recent discussions between New York and Atlanta, per O’Brien.
1:51pm: Heyman now tweets that the Yankees are “close” to trading Gray. He adds that New York is receiving interest in right-handed relievers Jonathan Holder and Tommy Kahnle, as well.
1:45pm: The Yankees, who reportedly reached an agreement with Adam Ottavino this afternoon, are “working hard” on a trade of right-hander Sonny Gray, per Fancred’s Jon Heyman (Twitter link). The team’s effort “appears to be getting more serious,” Heyman writes, noting that previous suitors for Gray have included the Reds, Giants, Brewers, Padres, Athletics, Braves and Mariners. It’s not clear that any of those clubs are at the forefront of New York’s current efforts to move Gray, though.
Gray and the Yankees agreed to a $7.5MM salary for the 2019 season recently. While GM Brian Cashman had previously suggested that the Yanks could hold Gray into the 2019 season despite voicing a preference to find a change of scenery for Gray, that possibility became less likely when CC Sabathia was cleared to resume baseball activities following a December angioplasty procedure. With Sabathia back on track for the ’19 season, Gray once again became a more superfluous piece for the Yanks.
A change of scenery for Gray, 29, only makes sense after he struggled profusely with the Yankees in 2018 — particularly when pitching at Yankee Stadium. Gray posted a ghastly 6.98 ERA at home in 2018 compared to a 3.17 ERA on the road, and while there’s surely more at play in those splits than the surface-level numbers exhibit, the contrast between the two numbers is unequivocally jarring.
Teams interested in Gray are undoubtedly encouraged by the fact that his velocity remained consistent with its previous levels (93.8 mph average fastball), that his swinging-strike rate remained north of 10 percent and that his ground-ball tendencies (50 percent) remained well above league average. Gray actually allowed home runs at his lowest rate since 2015, as well (0.97 HR/9; 13.3% HR/FB) despite pitching more than 40 percent of his innings at the homer-friendly Yankee Stadium.
The righty isn’t far removed from one of the American League’s better arms — he was an in-demand trade commodity at the 2017 deadline when the Yankees acquired him — and he entered the 2018 season with a lifetime 3.45 ERA, 3.67 FIP, 7.8 K/9 and 2.9 BB/9 in 770 1/3 innings. Prior to 2018, he’d only had one season with an ERA higher than 3.55 — an injury-marred 2017 season — and had even finished third in 2015 American League Cy Young voting. While Gray surely has a long way to go to get back to that level, he’s a quality buy-low option whose $7.5MM salary should be affordable for just about any team in need of pitching help.
Trading him covers 7.5 of the 9 million owed to ottavino next year
That’s 1.5M more towards the Hal Yacht fund. Save your tickets stubs. You might get to swab the deck.
rofl
That’s….. kinda undeniable.
Laughing because it’s spot on.
Who cares? Why does anyone care about how much money the owners make and/or keep for themselves? That’s business, that’s capitalism. Pretty much every corporation is owned by multi-millionaires who pocket the profit and attempt to keep expenses down.
Brainless Vinny.
It’s always “capitalism” until players ask for more money, then THEY are considered greedy/selfish/overpaid. The so-called working class fans jumps right to the defense of Management over players aka “working class” In negotiations between the two sides. That’s why some care
Must be why America is thriving these days!
I have no issue with players asking for more money, nor any problem with owners pocketing it. This is business. The Steinbrenners field a winning team year in and year out, are always in among the top payrolls, so…. I really don’t care.
If they kept the payroll in the bottom of the league while raking in huge profits, I might have an issue with it.
Bla bla bla.
Exactly if you don’t like it move to another country like Sweden.
Listen I don’t think anyone needs billions of dollars to live but crying and yelling about it to annoying your peers endlessly is completely useless and damages your own credibility.
This notion that’s there’s no game without the players is completely ridiculous too. In the unlikely event that every single player in Mlb went away, the league would hardly miss a beat. There’s 1000s of college and minor league players ready and willing to step in right away.
If a owner figures out win every single year with the leagues smallest payroll you all would cry and complain about that too.
Adam is spot-on. Downvote olympics in-session for no reason.
Right… you can always stick minor leaguers and college guys in MLB and produce the SAME product and it will be business as usual, right? Best logic I’ve heard in awhile.
Why would you care? It would mean they are running their business effectively.
Tsolid- Correct. Thank you
Not every corporation demands the public pay hundreds of millions of dollars to build their offices/factory/stadium. They are billionaires that don’t pay for their own infrastructure
We all have this forced vested interest with zero say
That’s because the owners take all the risk and the players are replaceable cogs in the machine.
They are ALL greedy, but it’s the players that have no plan B if they can’t play baseball(at least most of them have no Plan B).
Exactly. The Yankees won 100 games last year. Who cares what they spend? They are obviously doing something right.
I hate the “if you don’t like it” argument. If you don’t like something better it rather than run away from it.
Stop being snowflakes and telling us to run away from things we consider issues!
I honestly don’t give any f*cks about downvotes. The more I get, the more I know i’m right, anyway.
This reason alone is how I know the world is flat. Youre smart like me, lets hang out.
It’s the “hate the rich” age. Didn’t you get the memo? It’s been circulating since 2008.
Hot Air
What the hell is this downvote/upvote bs people keep talking about? What am I missing?
Ironically the players are rich but are exempt from the hate the rich age
Adam, lmao, you are so right with the downvoters,and every time I see mine, I feel flattered because I know I am right on also.
don’t give it a second Tsolid.
It is just the evil being evil.. morons.
Just enjoy posting.
Will do! Have no idea they are referring to. Maybe it’s b/c I only post from the app or something. Oh well
Broda, you’re Right… players are never called greedy/overpaid when they ask for or receive huge contracts. Is there room for me in your bubble?
Not sure if you are joking or not, but figured I would answer anyway. You cannot see up/down votes unless you are on the website. You won’t see them on the app.
Not joking at all. Never been on the website. Have only used the app to read/post. Guess I’ve been missing out! I’m guessing people take those upvote/downvotes very serious.
Hey, who let Bill James, Red Sox consultant in here to badmouth players?
I don’t mind Hal (or any owner) turning a large profit on their product. In fact, it is sort of expected.
That said, going to Yankee Stadium is expensive. Parking is expensive. Buying food and drinks there – expensive. Hal can line the walls of his yacht with 1000 dollar bills and I won’t care at all, as long as it appears that the he’s doing everything he can to put an elite product on the field.
He needed pitching and the Yankees barely engaged with the top pitcher on the market. Two 26-year old generational talents are just sitting there waiting to be signed. All three of those players wanted to be Yankees (to one degree or another). When the optics don’t appear to show 100%, fans are in their right to complain.
If only it were as easy as packing up and moving to Sweden…
Your post is very good overall, but Harper and Machado are not “generational talents”. Referring to them as such overrates what they really are-which is merely very good players. Neither are top-5 MLB players right now and “generational talents would be #1 or #2 at the worst.
If they’re not putting out the results to match the money they want, sure it’s a bit much.
100% right..
An interesting coincidence that the “hate the rich” age is also coinciding with the “wealth imbalance” age and the “death of the middle class” age
I gave you a downvote just for spite. No other reason, except.
Please enjoy the downvote.
You apparently care.
The Yankees are among the lowest in MLB in percentage of revenue spent on player salaries. I guess Hal is happy being runner-up to Boston every year
I mean the minor leaguers/college players would look great as long as they were facing each other. It’s not like they would be playing the current MLB caliber players. And we think MLB’s caliber as what it is purely cause it’s what we’re used to. You lower the quality across the board eventually everyone would be used to it and wouldn’t realize the difference
The owners continuously invest in the franchise and often stadium, pay the rostered players as well as the hundreds of other people they employ.
One trope that I have a huge issue with is “if you don’t like X then move to Y.” You could say the same thing to people living under Fascism in Franco Spain or Mussolini Italy or Stalin Soviet Union, etc. The point is, is that it is a bankrupt and meaningless expression that really shows the worldview of the person expressing it. How about a better trope? “if you don’t like X then effing do all you can to create a movement and change it.” That is what a democracy is supposed to look like, but ends up being stifled because of programming and corporate control.
Adam is #Triggered. I hope he finds his safe space with plenty of tide pods to eat and condoms go snort
Only Yankees fans.
TSOLID
Even when one posts something true and awesome, full of facts, they down vote those posts.
Not worth their meanness.
The Yankees were #1 or #2 in salary for 17 years and won once during that span. Maybe there’s another way to win beyond merely outspending everyone?
Don’t think they will win 100. Still think pitching needs improvement. Would like to Severino resolve issues get back to first half performance but don’t have that confidence when I see another team ace. Trade for a true ace…. Machado & Harper at the moment aren’t worth the $$$. The crappy signings so far. Don’t think they will be in the playoffs
Fans defending the owners? In what universe does this happen?
You’re either blinded by devotion to your cause or are too young to remember the “replacement players” from the ’94 strike. A couple were okay (Kevin Millar was one if I’m not mistaken) but for the most part they were scrubs.
All 800 mlb players combined make about 45% of the revenue generated in baseball. Meanwhile the 30 owners make about 55% of the other revenues meaning even guys in Oakland and Tampa are profitable.
In a game where people pay to see players and not owners it’s very strange to see people constantly defend the owners. Revenues continue to go up in baseball and owners continue to raise ticket prices despite wages not going up at the rate of inflation. Having the players who we go to see make less isnt going to magically force them to make the games less expensive to watch on tv or live.
Some people just like to downvote.
Worked for the redsox last year
*cough* Amazon H2 *cough*
Agreed
Typical comment from a mets fan Vinny. Speaking of your favorite team owners Mutt and Jeff I would say that it’s time to take anger management classes
What if we didn’t have owners where would baseball be? they take the risks just like employers do,
I bet it could be sunny 80 degrees at the beach and you come up with an excuse not to go because you would say ah it’s probably going to rain …have you ever heard of thinking positive ..yikes
says a fan whose team refuses to spend and wants to get more yankee money in revenue sharing. there is no problem other than owners who pocket revenues…. the blue Jays are a prime example
deal with your owner first before you blame others
you have a say
dont buy tickets
all these weak sisters who demand other teams subsidize them
baseball was fine with 16 teams
I agree. Let’s side with the guys on the field producing the product over the billionaire owners watching from their boxes
1987 replacement players were seen. It did not work, they choose in ’94 to just close shop.
Jay, the Owners pay billions of dollars to be able to employ thousands so player’s can make millions. Just one thing is taking place currently concerning the financial side of things, Owner’s will pay for stadiums with tax breaks from the Folks.
Lol, this is how bad its gotten for these socialists.
As an example of “greedy” capitalists and “labor” being exploited they point to the New York Yankees.
The team these same people have been crying for decades have bought championships by paying players the most money.
Players salaries went right the roof decades ago because of one man, George Steinbrenner. He spent when no one else would, and what happened?
He got richer and so did the players.
But they are so blind that their only concern is when owners get richer, its comical.
A rising tide lifts all boats.
The “top” pitcher on the market was only the top because of the weak pitching FA market this off-season. There was literally no one to sign. was asking for way too much… glad we passed. Then you talk about two generational talents who are not pitchers when you just admitted we needed pitching. :\
I believe this is part of a broader plan… Cashman is leaving room for the ace pitching we need which will come in the next few years. Hence why we have a bunch short-term commitments that come off the books in 2-3 years.
@jaysfan Everything you say is true. But the players come and go. The top players make a fortune. Most baseball players get stuck riding buses in the minors and can barely make ends meet. I’m more concerned about THEM.
I could care less if Machado gets $200m or $300m. The system is treating him just fine. He’s the 1% of the 1%. Most baseball players never even see the light of day.
So you do care if Machado gets $200m or $300m?
@cardsfan. The players do just fine(at least those that hang on a MLB roster for a while). The owners could close up shop and it would barely affect them at all. Meanwhile most players would have to go find other jobs. Players are easily replaced. Keep that in mind.
@cowbell Stop calling these 2 guys “generational talents”. They are not. Mike Trout is a “generational talent” and that’s about it. Harper and Machado are nice players. All stars. But hardly generational. They aren’t even top 5 in the game.
I don’t care what Machado makes. I’m saying he’s set for life either way. Are we really saying Machado is underpaid with $200m guaranteed?
I care because the Yankees have the highest ticket prices in baseball,highest parking fees, highest concessions, anything with a Yankees logo….if you want to charge the most put the best possible product on the field! I don’t give rats ass about whether an owner is rich or how much a player makes. If I’m paying for a Mercedes I want a damn Mercedes, not a Hyundai. George Steinbrenner understood that. Hal does not.
Bernie, are you concerned about the %99 of actors who barely get by as others make hundreds of millions?
Bingo on both comments Randia. Also can’t buy into the whole stadium argument when fans (like Toronto) push for a brand new stadium for personal reasons.
@jmklng that’s the stupidest comment ever. They are among the lowest in percentage of revenue spent on players because they make so much money. They’re always in the top three to five as far as payroll goes. I guess you think they should spend over $300 million a year on players? Come on be better.
How does spending $1.5m more equate to the owner pocketing $1.5m?
I was wondering about that math too, George.
I was wondering where that math came from as well…
Really? Do y’all REALLY take yourselves THAT SERIOUSLY? I’m not 100% positive BUT i am 95% sure that his comment was tongue and cheek. it was humorous.
@prospectnvstr . While he did make a humorous crack about swabbing the deck, Brainless Vinny is all over these articles making comments about how the Yankees are selfish and only want to make money.
Because you know, other team owners are out there to do good for the world, feed the homeless, save puppies, and stop global warming.
Then why do they keep raising ticket prices when they haven’t produced a WS title in 9 years? Idk about you but i’m not paying $1,000 to sit behind home plate to see Stanton strikeout four times. The Rays produced 10 less wins with maybe 1/3 of the NYY payroll and I’m certain their ticket prices aren’t similar.
Yeah, but what about all the humorous memes that Stanton and Judge create?
So long as a team draws nearly 3.5 million fans they can raise ticket prices if they continue to buy them. And raise beer prices if they continue to buy them. And raise cable rates and MLB extra inning packages if they continue to buy them. And…….
Tongue in cheek….just saying
Because no one shows up they average 12,000 a game. Good team bad city for a team. The fans just don’t go.
Big mouth from a one time wonder 2333.
Because its this thing called suppy and demand.
If the Yankees have 5,000 tickets available for $1,000 a piece and 10,000 people are willing to pay, they raise the price till the supply meets the demand.
Sort of like anyone with half a brain in business does.
Are you that dense?
What would you do, lower your prices because you didn’t win the WS? Lol
Love how this only happens in sports.
Where are the complaints for prices to a movie, or a Broadway play? Surely those actors and directors are making too much money.
I wonder why they don’t get all of this misguided anger?
A big mouth but even a Bigger ring. Talk to me when you go back to real winning ways of the 90’s with a home grown farm system.
Well that’s where you’re wrong. I’m a New Yorker so i’m very aware of their demand. They don’t sell out every game (neither do the Astros). Yankee tickets are easy to get, its not like Hamilton, however they’re priced like Hamilton. Hal just banks on these fans living on 27 that he just does what he wants (which is his right), but its not a good deal for the hard working family who want to get out of the house and have a good time. The most EXPENSIVE thing in a ball park is an Empty Seat.
Ottavino costs more. That would be $1.5 million LESS for the Yacht fund.
Well-played Bald Vinny.
I would love a prospect package return for Gray. Personally a Santillian and Friedl for Gray trade would be my dream situation for a trade. Yanks killed it this off-season . One thing now they could do is bolster the system a bit after trading so many prospects and graduating a bunch. Santillian and Friedl would help keep the system in the top half of systemts overall.
Agreed, it would be a great way to restock the farm now that the major league team is pretty well set.
Don’t get too excited about the prospect return. Gray is a free agent at the end of 2019 and needs to rebuild his value. The Yankees need to move him ASAP. Teams won’t overpay for a guy who stunk last year that his current team is desperate to move.
That’s not a giant return. A 50 rated arm with some control issues but decent upside outside the top 100 and an OF that projects more as a 4th OF than an everyday guy. Seems more realistic than what some fans think he’ll return.
I think return will be Scooter Gennett names flying around Twitter but not confirmed by good source…but makes sense
Three weeks ago Gennett would have been a good get for the Yankees. I don’t see that happening now with DJ Lemahieu on the roster.
And two years ago, the Reds don’t laugh hysterically at this proposal.
I’m certainly not expecting them to get a top prospect, but some low level/high ceiling types, and some decent depth would be great.
I doubt they’d be interested in getting yet another infielder (a 2B no less), and especially one that will be a free agent at seasons end? They just signed DJ Lemahieu (a starting caliber 2B) to a 2 year deal. Maybe in a 3 team deal where Scooter goes to another team maybe but not many teams out there looking for 2B’s (why the Yankees were able to sign LeMahieu for what they were able to sign him for what they did some believe).
He is a free agent after this year, they have a high rated prospect ready to take over, Yankees interest in Gennett for Gray was published this was published a few times in Dec 2018 His salary is 9.75 million and Reds wont be signing him after this year
The deal is Gray Kahnle Holder so nobody is laughing bub
the yankees arent desparate to move gray. if they wanted to they could just release him they havent. other teams are desparate to get him cheaply
Maybe sniff around the CWS prospects and see what’s available like a Basabe, Walker or Gonazalez.
Get Rutherford back.
Hard pass from the White Sox on all 3. If they land Machado, they MIGHT have interest, but still probably not at that price.
You are not going to get a prospect that highly thought of for Sonny Gray unless the other team’s management is dumb.
Heyman now saying that Kahnle and Holders names have also been discussed.
Sonny gray is undervalued. I wouldn’t sell low because of one bad year at home
he’s gotta go. He’s got no place on this team. We’ll get what we get and it’ll be alright even if the return isn’t what we gave up. I’ll bet Gray will do well away from the Yankees.
You reminded me of the character Carlos from the Sopranos once he learned of Vito’s “transgressions”. He’s gotta go!!!
good analogy …. I guess the Jersey guy comes out sometimes
Important public announcement no starting pitchers were hurt in the creation of my comments….. :)
Well we can’t have him in our social club anymore. That much I do know.
excellent follow up!!
You realize he wasnt really that good on the road either! His road splits are deceiving due to 3 games against Baltimore and 1 at KC…when younpitch on the road against the worst teams in baseball it will make your road splits look really good.
Chris Sale pitched against the Orioles. Should we recalculate his value too?
If he was bad against everyone else, yes, we probably should.
Note – Sale was still great against everyone else. There goes that argument.
Except Gray wasn’t bad against everyone else. Only at YS.
Look over there, there goes your brain!
If you tell yourself that enough, you might actually start believing it.
Or you could actually look at stats and see how he had an ERA over 6 against teams with winning records. Your choice.
GRAY SUCKS! IF HE WAS GOOD THE YANKEES WOULD NOT BE TRYING TO TRADE HIM…. HE BLOWS DONKEYS in THE CLUB HOUSE
Is that all you got tell us what you really think of Sonny
You’re the moron, because he had some really good starts against the Astros, Royals, Blue Jays, and Nationals on the road. You can actually look them you know, start by start, and see the numbers yourself instead of spouting stupidity you heard from someone else. The internet is a wonderful thing.
His road ERA was really hurt by TWO disastrously bad games, one against Boston in April (in the midst of their insane 17-1 run), and the other against Toronto in July.
Nobody is claiming he’s Sandy Koufax, but he’s demonstrably a decent pitcher outside of Yankee Stadium.
Now get going, the short bus is here.
They have to sell low for two reasons! First off baseball is what have u done for me lately type of game and for two u obviously don’t know how the business world works! Sonny gray doesn’t have a spot in the starting rotation; which means for people who don’t have business knowledge is that you don’t have any leverage in a trade, so it’s not that they shouldn’t sell low but they have to sell low
i dont think its just gonna be a dump.
He’s undervalued but the Yankees don’t want him. No GM is stupid enough to buy that. The Yankees always overvalue their players in trades. The Red Saux do too. Name one Yankee that got traded away and was worth anything to the gaining club.
Here you go again spouting this nonsense. Take a look at the White Sox minors for an example of the Yankees sending a valuable prospect. Maybe try therapy to get over those insecurities.
Who’s fault is that? Stop acting like other GMs are using the Yankee media guide to base their decision on trade acquisitions. Teams have their own scouts and talent evaluators. Im assuming they expect those players they demand in trade to have future potential value. Also, Yankees don’t write up prospect lists for baseball america or any other prospect “experts “. Every single post about the Yankees i see you acting like the Yankees are scamming the rest of baseball. Hire better GMs. The Yankees have been on the wrong side of many trades too…. not recently for the most part although thst Drury trade that sent Solak to the Rays and Widenor to the Dbacks I think will be one he’ll regret.
Willie McGee
Jay Buhner
Jake Westbrook
Aroldis Chapman
Didn’t Chapman help the Cubs win their first world series in like 300 years?
Rickey Henderson, Fred McGriff, Mike Lowell, Ian Kennedy, Alfonso Soriano
Good point Chi. The white Sox are always more than fair to the other teams GM when they make trades.
Look for example at the Chris Sale trade. Your Sox GM deliberately trades away the Cy Young award winner (multiple years) for a bunch of worthless players.
I admire your guts in supporting such incompetence.
Jose Contreras being the “ace” of ’05 WS champs……….. for Esteban Loaiza
Blake Rutherford in mid-2020
He’s not undervalued. He’s on a pretty reasonable 1 year deal and needs to prove himself again.
And the Yanks cant afford to hang on to him to try to rebuild some of that value because he really wouldn’t have a role (unless there is injuries) except in mop-up duty and he’s never gonna build value that way.
Good
My biggest thing is, where is the Yankees biggest need? Do they trade for help at 1B or 3B with questions about Bird/Voit or Andujar’s defense? Do they trade for more help in the bullpen? Do they a left handed bat in the OF?
I suggested a trade with the giants to bring mad bum and belt to the Bronx over a month ago
That would seal the deal. Belt would save those errant throws from Andujar, and provide that LH power-OBP-avg needed.
And boost the rotation even more
To a team that in all likelihood will not contend this year, swapping Gray for Bum plus does nothing but save $3M so there isnt a huge motivation for SF there. Throw in Belt as well ? I’ll bite … what else comes back to SF ?
Gray would just be a throw in to give the giants a starter they would need if mad bum is flipped but I’m having a hard time choosing who I would send in return
Don’t see the Yanks needing Bumgarner, at this point. But maybe Belt. Reasonable deal, IMHO: Belt to Yanks (plus a little cash?) for Gray and OF prospect Estevan Florial.
Glen-what comes back from the trade?
Tickets to the world Series.
Thanks so much
go scratch, dont want belt. voit is better
Thanks no thanks
That is exactly why Cashman isn’t listening to your suggestion…what part of we don’t want them do you understand?
Eric Thames? Lefty bat that can play 1B or corner OF. Obviously with other pieces filling in the gaps, not straight up 1 for 1.
Maybe 3-way with Giants, where Brewers get Panik? Although I suppose the Brewers need the SP as much or
More than they need infield help
My guess it is to Reds for Scooter Gennett because of ask of Holder Gray and Kahnle this is not a for prospects package ask
Yanks don’t have room for Scooter anymore
They could Play him at first to add a lefty to their righty heavy lineup
Yes they do Bird Frazier down AAA depth. Gennett LeMahiuer would be both be Super Utility LeMahiuer infield Gennett 1b OF DH I guess if you prefer Bird of Wade well you like to see strike outs and DP
The Yankees really have no “need” that would likely be filled by what they can get for Gray by himself. They are better off trading him for some prospects to replenish a farm system that has thinned out significantly in recent years. In fact, if anything, one of their biggest needs right now is to restock their farm system. So, yeah, prospects. Obviously you’re not going to get top end prospects that are close to major league ready but maybe get some raw toolsy prospects that are further down in the other teams farm system. The Yanks have done a good job and getting value in those types of acquisitions. Get whatever best prospects you can for Gray. They also don’t have room on the 40-man roster for someone that isn’t a significant impact player and they aren’t likely to get one by trading Gray.
Yes sir that kind of strategy should lock up the SWB playoff spot but wont do anything for the Yankees…good thinking SWB more important
Oh yes much more important for SWB to win the division title so much more important then Yankees getting immediate impact to win the division in 2019..wow I am glad we have deep thinkers like you …good idea
I really like holder and khanle is a huge bounce back contender too. Let’s see what happens
The outlook of the 2017 trade is certainly looking pretty Gray
And yet at the time of the trade the outlook seemed so Sonny…
Underrated post here, yoozed.
My gut for some reason tells me that we will get surprised maybe getting Kluber then, lol going into Chapter 11
Cashman has known to pull tricks out of that Yankee Hat. He is on a roll!!
Would love for the Sox to get him, but not if we have to give up anything of value lol.
Then you aren’t going to get him in all likelihood considering what Cashman has been reportedly asking for.
Cal, he probably won’t go anywhere!
With what AA said the other day about a deal 70% being done I see the Braves Being the team that makes the move for him. Not a bad buy low candidate hoping for a contract year improvement.
ok I’ll bite since you’re a Braves fan.
Whadya giving up?
Not a ton. Probably a fringe top 100 guy like Allard or Wentz max. I’m not sure why they want him so bad in the first place, unless their new , ex Astros, analytics guy sees something glaring and easily corrected.
I would have said anyone not in the top 10, but people would say I’m overvaluing our prospects, without realising our top 10 are all basically top 100 overall guys. But Gray hasn’t been consistent in years, and its only a one year rental. So a lot of risk for not a ton of reward for a team with a legit 10 or so guys competing for rotation starts..
Terrible move if true
5.40 ERA in the road against teams with winning records
50% of his road starts coming against BAL and TOR, as well as another start at KC all skewing his road numbers
He’s a 4+ ERA pitcher anywhere he goes.
Why rob someone like Soroka or Touissant of starts for that? If the Braves get a true top end arm then ok. But to pretend Gray is still a top end arm just to push out younger guys is flat out negligent GM work.
To be honest, I think Gray still can be a top-end arm; I just don’t think he’s cut out for New York. He seems like a good guy and has a good arm, but he nibbles too much and hasn’t really attacked the hitters consistently since he got here. I definitely think he can rebound with another team, maybe in more of a laid-back atmosphere. He just needs to rebuild his confidence.
Think Reds and Scooter Gennett
Trade him to Cubs with Andujar for Quintana and Happ. Bryant plays the OF pretty solid anyway. Good trade for both clubs. Quintana is the middle of the rotation piece they are looking for, and Happ has enormous potential and can really swat.
That’s a horrible trade for the Cubs.
Replacing Kris Bryant’s generally solid glove at 3B with a butcher like Miguel Andujar’s make zero sense. Bryant had a difficult 2018 season but that was a result of his shoulder injury which is said to be fine as spring training approaches.
If the Cubs had any interest in acquiring Andujar it would likely be to play a corner OF spot, not 3B or 1B with Bryant and Anthony Rizzo as fixtures there.
Bryant is not good at 3B. Moving him to RF and platooning Heyward in CF with Almora makes the team way better.
Bryant is way better then Andujar defensively.
While Bryant is not an elite defender at 3rd he is better defensively than at least half of the 3rd basemen in the league.
Bryant is way better in everything than Andujar.
no he isnt bryant cant hit as well as andujar
see what i mean… Yankee fans = Donkeys
New York Donkee Fans
andujar mopped the floor with bryant this year and will next year too
Yes Randia Bryant is a far better hitter then Andujar and can actually defend third. I can’t believe we are even having this conversation. Bryant is a threat to win the MVP when healthy.
Then you keep your trash i m more than happy with Andujar. 5 years of cost controlled production and no controversy.
Yup the MVP Bryant is complete trash. I’d love to have Bryant and would take him over Andujar all day long not even close.
I should say former MVP.
In what universe would that be a horrible trade for the Cubs Quintana has 2 years left and has been over a 4 era the last 2 years and Happ hit a 233 last year a 253 the year before that and had 17 doubles last year Andujar as a rookie hit 297 with 27 hrs and 47 doubles.So even if quintana is better than Gray he hasn’t been setting the world on fire and would be at best the #5 starter for the Yankees Happ wouldn’t even start for Yankees. Plus you make money on the trade. So the Yankees in effect would be giving up the second in the rookie of the year voting for at best a #5 starter and a backup second baseman and paying more money for that pleasure
Andujar will not get traded, they are too high on his bat and might be moved to 1st by the end of the season if his glove at 3rd doesn’t get better. Voight and Bird are an wildcards that can quickly be replaced during the season.
Not sure why you got 6 down votes for stating the obvious. Andujar’s bat is lethal and should only get better. Don’t trust the Voit/Bird duo. Yankees are in a great position to make a deadline deal for needs.
lol guess again
That’s a horrible trade for the Yankees. they don’t need another middle rotation guy and I doubt they would use Andujar for anything less than a #1 type. Being that Manny seems unlikely I think we should forget about trading Andujar.
Unless Andujar finds his glove, or is part of a much bigger package he is nowhere near the worth of a number 1 type. You have seen how much return number 1 type pitchers bring back right? As a defensive liability Andujar is worth middle of the rotation in a straight up trade. Hell his defense is so bad even Matt Carpenter will be a better defensive 3B this year than Andujar
Yeah those packages are mostly “prospects”. Kids who have yet to prove anything at all. Andujar isn’t a prospect. He just had 75 extra base hit rookie season. Even with the glove that’s still very valuable. If you trade for 3 prospects and one ends up being like Andujar then you call that a win.
andujar mops the floor with carpenter too, Adrian beltre was just as bad at 3rd as rookie and he improved. beltre is already working with andujar in the dominican so he will get better
you guys are just jealous and uninformed
Comparing Beltre to Andujar defensively in there rookie years says all anyone needs to know about being uninformed.
That is hilarious bruin because it was Beltre himself who said it. Shows how little you know. Beltre approached Andujar and offered to help him because he’s been through it. So given that you’re calling yourself uninformed. And on that we agree. You are.
At least Andujar is willing to work to get better and unlike Bryant isn’t so self absorbed that he thinks he doesn’t need to
Cmon man Beltre never had a defensive season like Andujar and that’s an indisputable fact. You can crow all you want but comparing any seasons defense of Beltre against nearly historic bad defense by Andujar, really only Braun was worse his rookie year, shows complete lack of understanding the game of baseball. Maybe Andujar will be the first guy that played third that poorly to be able to stick there but the odds and history are against it. Them’s the facts.
A Yankee fan is ignorant who cuts down a ballplayer like Andujar. It’s only due to the fact they have Manny syndrome so far up their keister they can’t think straight…
You’ll will be cheering hooting and hollering when Andujar launches his 30th home run during the summer acting as though you were a big Andujar all along. You’ll be munching on your crow sandwich soon enough this summer. Be prepared
Yankees need as much pitching as they can get trust me. It’s a long season and if you are counting on CC & Paxton & Happ to give you 200 innings that is wishful thinking and a poor way to go into the season.
Especially after acquiring Ottavino, that bp is a monster but you still need a couple #3 or #4 starters to eat innings to get to the pen.Depth at starting pitching would be wise to go with monster pen or else your just going to wear down the pen or use starters that won’t allow you to get to the pen with a lead
Yeah but nobody gives 200 innings anymore . How many guys did ? 8 or 9?
If they get 750 innings out of their starters that will be enough with the bullpen they have
Either they are in love with Andujar, or don’t know who Happ is lol
Really mega.Why don’t you tell us who Happ is. A dWAR last year of 0 a -.8 the year before. A 233 average last year and a 253 average the year before and 15 hrs last year. Exactly what do you think about Happ. PLease spell it out to us how Cub fans view this gem that us Yankee fans don’t understand
There’s defensive value there even with the bad dWAR when a guy can play 6 different positions. That said Cub fans seem to be completely enamored with this guy thanks to his penchant for the dramatic and forget about the lackluster results the rest of the time.
That being said exactly where would he play for the Yankees. The answer is a backup and as such would be of very little value to the Yankees.
Happ would easily start for the Yanks in LF.
Really Gardner is a much beter fielder than Happ and an all around better player and a natural LF and he’s a backup for the Yankees.How would Happ easily start for the Yankees in LF
“There’s defensive value there even with the bad dWAR when a guy can play 6 different positions.“
There are a LOT of players that can play 6 different positions and be mediocre at all of them. Most managers aren’t dumb enough to play guys at positions they aren’t good at though.
If the notion was to maximize the outfielders they have then they’d move Aaron Judge to LF and play Giancarlo Stanton in RF. That way they can DH either Sanchez or Andujar more. Heck Stanton is athletic enough to play LF as well. You’re not implying that Happ is a better player than Judge or Stanton are you?
Judge is a top five RF, so he’s not moving.
Take the GD Homer glasses off.
Stanton? Frazier? They just resigned Gardner. The POINT is that the Yanks have no real need for him. Yes, they can theoretically improve slightly at every position. Heck, that rationale can probably be applied to every position on every team and that doesn’t mean it justifies trading for someone.
Okay, Willy. Happ is currently in the Maddon platoon system of never knowing what day you are going to play or at what position. Both he and Schwarber have had their development damaged by this, and both deserve better. With Happ, the guy can LITERALLY play every single position on the baseball field with the exception of catcher and pitcher. He is absolutely not done improving and given a chance he would make an outstanding starting player on any team with good power, above average base-running, and solid OBP. Those defensive metrics that dopes on here think are gospel, are not reflective of his ability, especially with not being able to play one position on a daily basis.
I’m a Cub fan and I even think that’s a bad trade for the Yankees. I was gonna say Chatwood for Gray straight up with like 2 million to the Yankees
Thanks for the honesty Sims but what exactly would the Yankees do with Chatwood .They’d be better off getting minor leaguers and saving money. Chatwoods actually earning more than Gray and is signed thru next year
Could try to flip him or keep him in case someone goes down.
Hell just to dump the money throw in a few minor leaguers
Then why wouldn’t they just keep Gray than who is cheaper and gone at end of year. You don’t make trades that don’t help you
Im not even a cubs fan, and that might be the one of the worst trade proposals of all time my dude
This might be the Braves. I could be wrong obviously, but those relievers are what stands out for this gut feeling of mine. Something Atlanta needs.
Report says how the other two relievers are also garnering interest, not being packaged along with Gray..
Thanks captain obvious. They could still throw in one of the relievers for a better return.
You never know. Gray himself would seem to be a great fit and likely bounce back player of the year candidate if you move him to a lower pressure situation surrounded by a top notch team. The Braves may be the best team among the teams rumored. And yep, definitely can see the 2 relievers also being significantly useful in Atlanta. Considering the Braves also have one of the best and deepest farm systems (the Yanks are reportedly looking for prospects in return and given they will be struggling to maintain their 40 man roster), there definitely could be a great match.
I see the reds snagging gray
Get to see Gray in the new Braves uniforms being unvieled Saturday!
Gray, Holder & Kahnle could all fill roles for the Braves maybe for a young arm like Wentz
If Holder and Kahnle are the answers to the pen we might as well sign up for 4th place right now
Depth in the pen the young boys need to throw more strikes
At least Sonny won’t have to go to Spring Training with all the other players saying, “Sonny? I thought you were traded?”……
Cashman didn’t do much on the class-o-meter for himself with this one…..
My guess is The Crew, though it could also be the Reds.
Brewers? Bet it is
Probably
i bet the Padres have checked in on this. Perhaps in a 3 team trade proposal (sarcasm)
theres a new rule in baseball didnt you hear. The Rays have to be involved if it is a 3 team trade
Don’t for get the Mariners!
As long as Gray and Kahnle are traded to an NL team. The young players they gave up for them were washes so hopefully they can get some young minor league prospects in return.
My guess is the Phillies, they need pitching. But it’s probably the Padres.
Phillies starters are fine the defense inflated guys E.r.a’s of Pivetta and Eflin.
A’s Billy Beane to bring Sonny back to the Bay Area now…
Yanks will regret trading Gray
Seems like they all regret it!!
For him. They gave up #32BPtop100 prospect Mateo, #1 pick and Top 100 prospect Kaprilian, and UBER prospect Dustin Fowler (RIP knee) for Gray. They are surely regret that trade already.
why are the regretting that trade all 3 chips will never pan out
“all 3 chips will never pan out” Why because you say so? Your opinion is not gonna cut it with the A’s FO.
Wow, Must of struck a nerve, @Bocephus….I simply said that because all 3 are bums. BTW So is Gray.
Gray has pitched poorly for NY. i doubt that they regret the trade considering what they gave up for him. Fowler’s knee will never be 100%, Kaprelian may or may not ever pitch in majors and Mateo has never found a position he can play in the majors. Not a great trade for either team.
With Yanks trading their #1 prospect Sheffield for Paxton, which I see as a huge mistake long term. The Yanks had a deep & good farm but with the graduations of Torres & Andujar it is completely depleted?
Yes Yanks have a few lower level high upside arms but geez, Cashman depleted it in no time
Hard to see the depleted farm as a negative when they’re with the big league club now. 23 of the guys currently on the 40 man Roster made their MLB debuts as a Yankee. That’s exactly what the Minors are supposed to do.
He also traded a lot of guys he wouldn’t be able to protect from the Rule 5 draft. The only prospects that have given us reason to be concerned thus far are Nik Solak and Tyler Widenor.
Hey Rick, go bring Kahnle back. Let Coop fix him again, then flip him for another good prospect.
Anyone know where he’s going? Padres? Phillies? Braves? Angels? I feel like any of those teams could be in on him. I actually wouldn’t mind the Dodgers going after him, think he’d do well in that pitcher friendly park.
Gray is a guy who will fetch less than he’s worth to the acquirer, and we Yankee’s fans are going to be wondering whether there wasn’t something that could have been done better while he was here.
Why would the Yankees want to trade Holder? He had a fine year in 2018 and is not arbitration eligible until 2021. Who could they possibly get in return that would help them more than him?
Trade from your strengths? Pretty simple concept. Dunno if they would actually want to trade Holder and I am not sure what teams would be willing to give up for him though. I wouldnt see him commanding too much, but if packaged with others it could be a good piece to get a deal done
I think trade from your strengths implies you can get a haul back for the guy you are trading like Cleveland for Kluber. Trading a guy like Holder doesn’t fit that bill
Why does trading from your strengths imply you have to be trading a Kluber type? Trading from your strengths only means you can afford to dig into that position to help shore up other positions. They could package Holder in a trade and not be too affected by it since the rest of their bullpen is still lights out (with exception of maybe Kahnle, if he cant get back to his 2017 form). Thats all that trading from strengths implies, and Holder definitely fits that bill. Kluber fits the trade from strengths bill as much as any SP on the Indians does (since they share the same position).
Trading from strengths was one of the reasons the Yankees were ok with trading Mateo (who was very high in their farm system at the time) and why the Cubs were OK with giving up Gleyber Torres. The player doesnt need to be elite or even need to be in the majors to be dealt from positional strength reasons
do not want Kluber
guy is horrible in the post season, hes been absolutely rocked in the post season the last 2 years
no pitcher in baseball has been worse in the last 2 post seasons
why in gods name would the yankees want him
his failures in the post season is why the indians are willing to trade him
look up his game logs hes trash
+Randia
Youre way off topic. Just because someone mentions Kluber doesnt mean we are discussing whether or not its a good idea for the Yankees to trade for him
It’s not a good idea period no need to trade liable or Holder either. I say keep Gray as a caddy for Sabathia. He needs rest when his knee acts up and Gray is fine on the road. Why give him away for scraps
ATL GM Alex Anthopolous stated at an A-List meeting for Braves fans that he was 70% done with a trade and they needed to find common ground on the secondary parts of the deal. With ATL being interested in Gray, I wonder if this is the move he was talking about, though we’ve been heavily in on Realmuto recently, as well. I cannot see Gray and Julio Teheran in the same rotation though.
I think we’re safe from Gray. My guess is AA’s trade is involving a corner outfielder. Seems like that’s sort of been the main focus the last week or so and it makes sense they’re trying to trade for one than sign Pollock and lose that draft pick. Granted it’s hard to say with any sort of confidence of course
Recent reports saying that of the potential teams Atl seems to be out as they haven’t had any recent contact about Gray. Still listing Cincy, Milwaukee, Oakland, and SD as the most likely…
I think that statement was made about either the d-backs or mariners.
There is a chance Heyman is just making s*** up…. again
I have a feeling he will go to the Braves. If so, I hope none of my Braves’ top prospects are involved…
Padres for Brett Kennedy, Luis Perdomo, and Miguel Diaz.
Padres taking a chance Gray rights the ship. Yankees getting a guy whos climb the ranks and some pen arms who need a change.
1 year of Gray? Not sure I am interested in including Diaz in that as a Padre fan. Not desperate to make the deal, Gray doesn’t help you contend this year. He is gone next year, and he is blocking young guys. I’ll pass.
Don’t pay attention to him Yankees not interested in dealing him to Padres in the first place Padres are the ones who called Yankees not Yankees calling Padres got nothing we need from a last place team… enjoy the cellar again this year lets make it 100 losses just for fun
So you are saying you wouldn’t trade Gray for Kirby Yates if it were offered? (which it wouldn’t be)
Yankees are calling any1 who will listen to dump that bumb right now
I love how these idiots think that the reds would give up allstar gennet for this bumb gray.
That right there shows how much baseball knowledge these donkeys have #hilarious
No we had that scrub of a buffoon Kirby Yates before and he stunk He can’t pitch in NY just like Gray why would we want that scrub all over again we’re trying to get rid of our own scrubs we sure as hell don’t need your Kirby
No it’s teams are calling for Gray that’s why 7 teams are asking for him. It isn’t just Gray it would include Holder Kahnle…
Gennett is leaving after this year they have a 2nd base prospect ready to take over 2nd
Reds only get a supplemental draft pick this package is worth much more and Reds interested in cutting his near 10 million contract
Can NY DONKEE FANS READ? I think Heyman has more legit info than any NY Reporter (Martino)
it clearly says above that the reds are not interested… in fact, all of the teams above have said no minus the Giants… like 4 of those 7 have said No already… Gennet may be leaving, but so is gray…. so it makes no sense especially if the Reds plan on contending (which certainly seems to be the case)
Contending ? Contending for what the bottom of the toilet bowl dead last almost 100 losses is your idea for contending LOL that’s a hoot
Do you know what a supplemental draft pick is the chances are not great he would even make it to the MLB Gennett is walking you got that Reds can’t afford him
Again there were 3 Gray Holder Kahnle those 2 are not free agents
they have control years Holder and Kahnle could be set up or closer for a number of teams
Why keep a guy that’s costing near 10 million who is leaving anyways when your team is going nowhere…The Reds contending that’s a good one when 5 other teams finished higher then their last place. They got nothing for pitching
the reds moves show that they are trying to contend… will they be successful is another topic…. like i said before… they bowed out anyway, just like the braves, padres, and oakland… stop living in a dream world…. NY DONKEE FANS are just as funny as our President
The Reds couldn’t contend for ball boys with other MLB teams. Who are you kidding the Reds haven’t won a WS in what like 38 years LOL will be another 38 years before they even contend
The only bowing out the Reds can do is a one legged man in a ass kicking contest….hey if you are really a Reds fan I would keep it on the Q and T you don’t want to get laughed off the board do you?
wow that is a laugher Reds contend OMG LOL
PS He’s still your President …ha ha ha life sucks hey?
red rooster we gave you yates because he couldn’t cut it in our bullpen
Why would we want him back. It’s because of Yates that you should want gray. If you don’t we don’t care. I actually would rather keep him as insurance for sabathia
Diaz has a bit too much upside for me to trade for a 1-year rental of Sonny Gray. Let alone if he’s not the only guy the Padres are giving up.
Good keep him we don’t want him
And you keep Gray for one year then lose him for nothing :^)
Don’t get your rooster tails in a huff we could care less keep your scrub Diaz we have no use for him will have plenty of other teams who want Gray offering more then that water boy
So you do care about Diaz then?
With Quantril Paddack Allen possibly coming up this year Padres will need the space in the pen to move Erlin Mitchell and Lamet when he comes back from tjs. Perdomo and Diaz have upside but gonna need space to showcase Erlin as a lefty out of the pen to eventually move him in a trade.
Gray holds Paddack spot who could use time in AAA and be called up once gray is traded at the deadline.
Quantril Allen Paddack lucchessi lauer nix 6 man rotation gives the Padres looks at them and reduces the strain on young arms.
Diaz on his own is probably the best thing the Yankees can expect for Gray. I don’t see anyone else giving up something better.
Perdomo and Kennedy dont have much value- if any value at all and really only blocking better options.
Neither does Gray
I wouldnt mind the Dodgers trading for Gray. As long as Yankees eat most of the $ and the prospect is not high in their plans. Dodgers always seem to get best out of these down and out players.
I agree
He’s only making $7.5m, the Yankees will be able to trade him without eating a dime.
Reds for Scooter Gennett …team is asking for Holder and Kahnlee with Gray that package is not prospects this is confirmed Hayman on the ask
So let me get this straight. The Dodgers are willing to take him if they don’t have to pay much and they don’t have to give up much.Wow.Do other teans go Lets trade with the Dodgers and we can eat the salary and get nothing back. That sounds great
Thank god this is over.
I say Gray to Reds or A’s?
Been saying this all winter I think Gray + Others to Reds for Scooter Gennett would be another Super Utility lefty bat plays 1b 2b 3b and outfield makes too much sense
With asking for Holder Kahnle has to be someone big …Gennett???
May make sense for the Yanks, but would have to be some pretty decent others for it to make sense for the Reds. Gray+ is not a good return for an All-Star 2B.
asking for Holder Kahnle too tells me someone decent like Gennett my thoughts all winter yanks need left bat, only 1 st base and no 5th outfielder
It doesn’t say Holder and Kahnle are going to be in the same trade, it just says that teams have also had contact about those 2.
I don’t see that making sense for either team. Yanks already have 2 2bs and Gennett should get more back in trade
Gennett is leaving the Reds after this year as a free agent it’s not like he has years of control so what’s the diff All Reds get is a supplemental draft choice so it’s considerably more then you would get for a supplemental draft choice …Reds are going nowhere next year anyway but near last place
The deal was Gray Holder and Kahnle that’s the extra players teams were asking for interested in Gray
The Yankees will probably trade for him.
YES! i am excited to see what trade cash pulls off here
Maybe San Diego?
Gray, Kahnle, Bird and a prospect to the Cards for Martinez.
Can we trade this f*ing guy already? so tired of hearing about this
I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s the Dodgers. Affordable salary and the ability to be a swingman
Dodgers already Have Kershaw, Buehler, Urias, Hill, Maeda & Ryu……oh btw we have enough swing men with Stripling, Brock Stewart, Santana and Ferguson that could also eat innings
DODGERS DONT NEED GRAY
Gray wet his panties in NY City he’d do the same there Is LA Dodgers your idea of a small market team?
toros de tijuana
He’ll end up there if he keeps pitching bad.
It will probably be Oakland.
Breaking: Sonny Gray To The Angels
Sonny Gray still has a potential role on this team. Tanaka and CC do much better with an extra day of rest and a second year in NY might prove that Gray’s acclimation to the Bronx just took a little bit longer.
Cash was able to settle with Gray for 7.5MM when MLBTR had projected his arb value at 9MM. He’d also be a tradeable asset in July when Nolan Arenado or someone similar becomes available.
Why would Nolan be available? The Rockies aren’t going to trade their best player in the middle of a playoff race, even if he is about to be a free agent.
They will only trade Nolan if they are tanking by the deadline
He could be available if they fall out of the playoff race, but if they are then what could they possibly want with Gray in return?
Better question if Rockies are trading Arenado and they are tanking what good is Gray to them even if improved since hes a fa at end of year I agree with Mikey
If Gray can’t pitch in Yankee Stadium, why would he do any better at Coors Field.
So it’s basically the A’s or pads. San Diego has been trying to get him all off. Season so a trade with them is likely. Who would come in return though ?
One report says A’s or Pads, another says they’re both out and the Giants are in…. who knows
This off season in a nutshell my friend
I think he’d fit well in SF, just like holland did. Plus with Samardzija being hurt last season and being a question mark this season he could take his spot if needed, plus the club isn’t trying to push the young guys, dereck Rodriguez and Andrew Suarez, too hard so they may need someone else to eat some innings
Gray, Holder, Kahnle for Bum
This makes me nervous. I was reading just last night about how Anthopulous has a trade in the works and that they are 70% there.
link to tomahawktake.com
I hope the trade isn’t for Gray. We’d be paying prospects for what’s at best a latteral move.
I guess if the Giants want the risk. He’d probably pitch fine at home. Go get em and see what he’s got. At this point what does it hurt?
What risk ? The giants are s bad team with or without gray
The risk on taking another bad contract weirdo. Kinda like your Yankees and Stanton right? Smh
First off gray has one year left of control with 7.5 million remaining so how is that a bad contract ? Second of all Stanton will seem like peanuts compared to future
Weirdo ^_^
Typical yankee fan. It’s a bad contract because he sucked last year WIERDO! Stanton is the strike out king! Nothing more. You might get lucky if he bats above .250 this year, and stays healthy! Happy hunting for a ring with all that payroll! Along with your garbage rotation! Lol smh
A giants fan talking about high payrolls and garbage lmaoooooo. Stanton rejected that trade to San Fran for a reason
A Giants fan that has more rings this past 10 years then any ball club out there! Keep trying Yorker. Your team has sucked for so long I would be mad too!
It wasn’t because the Giants sucked that’s for sure! One of the best, team player franchises in the game. They treat there players right unlike you terrible yank fans that boo your own team! Yanks are garbage
Very fortunate that Stanton deal didn’t go through to cap off Bobby Evans attempt of destroying the team. Jesus. I don’t even want to get started. The Giants have won three since the Yankees were even in the dance last. So what can you really say? I can say that the Warriors have been keeping me satisfied… 6 championships, maybe 7 the past 8 years? We good out here. Just trying not to clog up all of the sports so you other cities can have some fun too. ;)
#helpmyknicks
The warriors? Are you a band wagon follower? Lol! Keep trying, cause NY sucks at about everything for awhile. Keep spending that dough though, you’ll be in a worst spot then the Giants soon.
No helping those knicks either!
Terror661 exactly right, misread your statement. Yanks can have Stanton. Bad contract, not that great of a player either!
My guess would be that the Giants would trade Smith or Watson for Gray. I don’t see the point of the Giants trading a year of Bumgarner for a year of Gray.
No way in hell Bum is on the table for a swap of Gray! Maybe Smith, and a depth piece.
I see Panik more than anything. But do the Yankees need a 2b? That’s just cause Panik and the Jersey connection of course and his name was brought up earlier this offseason. But that’s just a total out of left field guess.
Gray isn’t even worth a top relief pitcher
not even smith
As a Braves fan. May I say WHEW!!!
Gray will win 17 – 20 Games once he’s our of the Bronx
Will the yankee trade for mike trout please I know eppler going to trade him to his friend cashman give nothing for him
Sure. Start the pursuit with Torres and Severino.as the headliners!
I bet it’s the Pads who get him.
Why would SD be interested in a walk-year pitcher?
Affordable, upside to flip or make QO to. Oh and we’re desperate for big league arms
cashman about to bend preller over a barrel and show him the 50 states, again. not eagerly anticipating the official details on this transaction if anything does go down between NY and SD.
How the braves aren’t in this discussions blows my freaking mind. Gray fits, and holder and kahnle fit. Sure the TK had a rough year last year, but he’s typically a really good pitcher. This is a joke to me. I think gray is gonna bounce back and not grabbing a guy with ace potential and control is gonna look and feel silly. This is my opinion.
Braves have cheaper options that can rip a sub 4 era
So what are the Braves offering for Gray and Kahnle and please do not have Teheran in any deal…
One tepee tent and a Mohawk to be named later
Braves have more than enough to offer. In fact, enough to where Tehran could be the player to be named later. Lol I simply think we have to be in serious discussion… we have enough assets to get any deal done.
they are not offering anything cuz he is a bumb
@harmoney101575 Learn how to spell if your going to troll. Really He’s a bumb? First and foremost it’s bum FYI, THAT’S THE CORRECT SPELLING. Dummy Yeah, Dummy Yeah.. 2nd Sonny Gray is a multi millionaire and your some fat, sweaty, sweathog commenting on someone who had a down year. Grow up Tubby, I promise it will get better for you once you leave Mommy’s basement. and you leave those calzones alone.
Now you know how it feels to the rest of us when Yankees fan try and dump Gray on everyone. The same thing happens w. Ellsbury.
AA wants controllable assets. Gray is a 1 and done. I’d be shocked if he had any interest knowing how he operated in Toronto.
Yankees 2019 Roster additions
• 2 Relivers ✅
• 3 starters ✅
• Replacement for DiDi ✅
• Bryce Harper … next !
(Only yankee haters will downvote this )
u are a dumber than a rock
As far as I can tell they’ve added 1 starter as Happ was on the team last year.How are you getting to 3.Same could be said of relievers since Britton was here last year. Finally Haroer no way. So ypu’re wrong on everything except Didi.I didn’t down vote you because I don’t do that but I’m a Yankee fan and you’re just very wrong
Paxton
Maybe they’d be interested in getting Jose Pirela back? :^)
I’ll up my offer for grey to 2 hot dogs, one nacho and a budweiser. Anything more for him is crazy.
May be a little high.
Three not allot in San Frans farm to like. Tyler Beede and maybe another prospect for Gray?
I would be fine moving beede – that guy has great stuff but just isnb’t consistent.
Don’t want them scrubs Giants system is the joke of the MLB don’t want them they wouldn’t even make Yankees top 30
For him is better a return to Oakland
Maybe Chase Headley will be the piece going back.
Includes wheel chair
Who is Chase Headley?
isn’t it past your bedtime?
“The $1.3 billion cost for the New Yankee Stadium was funded by $450 million paid equally by both the Yankees organization and New York City taxpayers, with the remainder of the bill being covered by money from diverted revenue sharing payments that would have been paid to other MLB baseball teams.” New York.com. Billionaires sucking off the public teat to not spend all the revenue generated for baseball.
More “non-news” here. Hours ago: “Yankees close to dealing Gray”…. most recent update… “several teams in discussion for gray”….
So…. basically the same update as when the off-season began haha
I don’t get why the trade of Gray depended on the result of the evaluation of CC… seems like there was no way Gray was going to be with the team come spring training anyway.
I don’t understand why once a month we hear he’s close to being dealt then it just goes quiet and starts listing teams that are “interested” lol
The As I don’t see Cashman giving Gray back to them for less than he gave up to get him
Sonny Gray has not maintained the stature he held at the 2017 trade deadline and even if the righthander had he remains under team control for only one season, not the two years and two months at the time of his trade to the Yankees on July 31, 2017.
The reduced team control alone lessens Gray’s trade value.
Gray’s fast becoming the last chick at the bar late at night. Just waiting for a guy drunk enough to be interested. And most of the guys are just deciding to leave, instead.
The Yanks will be lucky to get a few low-tier prospects at this point.
Wouldn’t be surprised if the Braves get him. Dummy Obrian is wrong so often it’s not funny
Come on Astros …
Would be nice if Sonny Gray can be used in a trade package to get Madison Bumgarner. That’d be the cherry on the sundae, as it were, this winter
What is in the trade package that would help the Giants?
Ha! That’s hilarious.
If the Giants do trade Bumgarner it will be because they wish to add years of control to their roster. With that in mind, WHY would they have any interest in Sonny Gray who, like Bumgarner, is a year out from FA?
This comment is why everyone hates Yankee fans
they should be now known as NY Donkee Fans or #NYDONKEEFANS
And who do you like @harmoney101575 ? At lease the New York Yankees are proven winners. they have a excellent fan base, and should not be Judged by the likes of an on-line troll like yourself…..Dummy
Why Yankee fans just know they are part of worlds greats sports franchise consider Simon & Garfunkle Mrs. Robinson “Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio our nation turns its lonely eyes to you” just wouldn’t have the same ring to it replace Joe/W Cobb Williams Aarron Mays or your favorite team heroes name …now would it?
Well, I guess they weren’t all that close…
He’s a good pitcher just can’t deal in New York
Tigers get Gray, win the AL Central.
People act like Gray can’t fetch a solid return. He’s still young(ish) and was solid away from yank stadium. Mad teams interested also. Sure not gonna get a big ML player return for him, but should do ok if u get prospects for him. Hence why that’s exactly what they should do.
Bad year last year. 1 year of control
Get a lotto ticket at best.
Just trade him already this saga is getting old. He clearly will benefit from the change of scenery
Should bring in decent prospect haul as well
Finally Gray Trade Is Completed
Good bye Sonny
Was a good size package with Gray sent by Yankees but still this is a steal for the Yankees I can’t believe Cash pulled it off. Man where are we going to put everybody Wow if we don’t win the division and world series something is wrong
keep dreaming buddy! NY DONKEE FANS… LMAO
Affordable, upside to flip or make QO to. Oh and we’re desperate for big league arms
Trade Sonny Gray for Mike Trout
Update: gray is still “close” to being dealt….
Angels trade trout to NYY for a church raffle ticket. Yankees willing to throw in the Ellsbiry dough boy and some cinnamon rolls.
Tired of hearing about this, just get the deal done already.
“Struggled profusely” is a strange turn of phrase. I think you meant “struggled profoundly.”
Back to Oakland. He will be. 9-3 by July and an AL all-star!
What is the definition of close? Cause I thought it meant “just about to happen”.
My thoughts exactly.
Seattle is an unlikely destination, according to this Mariner blogger:
link to lookoutlanding.com
Sadly one of the worst blogs out there. I miss old school USS mariner.
How bout Sonny Gray to Colorado for a signed Arenado bat
Sonny Gray is going to go to the Reds they’ve been pretty much been on Gray and the sooner he goes the better because Sonny NY is not your kind of town..a small market you will go.
But the great American ballpark is a hitters park for sure.
How you know being a fan of the New York Yankees you part of the greatest sports franchise in the world?
When you hear one of your teams legends Joe DiMaggio mentioned in song by Simon & Garfunkle “Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio out nation turns it’s lonely eyes to you”
Some how replacing Joe DiMaggio with Ted Williams, Wille Mays Ty Cobb or Hank Arron just doesn’t seem to have the same ring does it?
So how do you know being a fan of the New York Yankees you part of the greatest sports franchise in the world?
When you hear one of your teams legends Joe DiMaggio mentioned in song by Simon & Garfunkle “Where have you gone Joe DiMaggio out nation turns it’s lonely eyes to you”
Somehow replacing Joe DiMaggio with Ted Williams, Wille Mays Ty Cobb or Hank Arron just doesn’t seem to have the same ring does it?