With Mike Trout down to his penultimate season of team control, the Angels have recently considered offering the center fielder a record-breaking contract – a $350MM extension over 10 years – though it’s unclear if they’ve actually proposed it, Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic reports (subscription required). Per Rosenthal, the accord would run from 2021-30, Trout’s age-29 to 38 seasons, meaning the future Hall of Famer would finish out the remaining two years and $66.5MM on his current contract before the extension would take effect.
A $350MM guarantee would be the highest in the history of baseball, quickly unseating the $330MM pact Phillies outfielder Bryce Harper received this week. It would also set a new high-water mark for average annual value at $35MM, defeating Diamondbacks right-hander Zack Greinke’s $34.4MM per year. Still, as Rosenthal rightly observes, neither number appears adequate for Trout – a seven-time All-Star and two-time American League MVP who, at age 27, is already one of the greatest players in the history of the game. Since his first full season in 2012, Trout has posted a ridiculous 64.0 fWAR, just over 27 wins more than second-place man Josh Donaldson, while easily leading the majors in wRC+ (174, 17 percent better than runner-up Joey Votto) and slashing .310/.420/.579 with 235 home runs and 185 stolen bases across 4,538 plate appearances.
Just as Trout has lapped his competition on the diamond, he’s on track to do the same on his forthcoming deal – whether he signs an extension in the next two years or reaches free agency after 2020. Harper, the Padres’ Manny Machado (10 years, $300MM) and the Rockies’ Nolan Arenado (eight years, $260MM) have each signed enormous contracts in recent weeks, but as superb as they’ve been, their careers pale in comparison to Trout’s.
Since he first graced the majors in 2011, Trout has produced nearly $500MM in on-field value, according to FanGraphs. Trout has a case to aim for that figure (or $400MM-plus at minimum) on his next contract, but it doesn’t seem he’s in any rush to determine his long-term future just yet, having already achieved financial security when he landed a $144.5MM extension back in March 2014. When asked Friday if he’d be open to discussing a second extension with the Angels this spring, Trout didn’t slam the door shut, but he did suggest he’s more worried about readying himself for the regular season.
If Trout holds off on an extension, the Angels’ performance as a team this season could impact whether he’ll be open to discussions next winter. Trout “desperately” wants to win and has done everything in his power to carry the Angels to glory, but they’ve been startlingly inept despite his presence. Through the first seven full campaigns of Trout’s career, the Angels have earned just one playoff berth and haven’t even won a single postseason game. They’re now mired in a four-year playoff drought and haven’t finished above .500 since 2015.
Give him more or he’ll leave
8 years $400 million sounds right
$50M/year starting at age 29?! That seems excessive even for Trout
Excessive for a guy that’s as good offensively as Harper and Machado combined?
Teams don’t pay for past performance anymore. 29 isn’t that young.
Wow, i knew he’s as good as machado and harper combined overall via WAR for their careers, but yeah, last year harper and machado combined for 64 batting runs while trout produced 66. What a freak.
Why pay for what he has done? Just pay for what you expect him to
do. No different than any other job.
Trout is the second coming of Jesus in baseball. Any team would shell out money for that man.
It is actually vastly different than “any other job” when over a billion dollars in revenue is at stake. Unfortunately it is not just based on wins but also ticket sales, ad revenue, and merch that Trout brings in.
Combined? That’s a stretch.
It can’t be a stretch when it’s factual
It’s definitely not excessive for current Trout. It’s almost surely excessive for 37 year old Trout.
What part of that is factual?
Are you nuts? Baseball hasn’t exploded that completely yet, not even for Mike Trout. Everybody was talking about 400 for Harper for 10 years, and he didn’t even get close to that when it came down to actually putting money on the table. I think 350 for 10 is reasonable in today’s market, and the Angels better put it down pretty quickly because in 2 years it’s going to cost them more…they’re still not going to be paying a 36 year old 50 million dollars though.
Harper put up 1.3 WAR last year. In 2016, he put up 1.5 WAR. Through his first 7 years, he has 27.4 WAR, LESS than 4 WAR/year
TROUT? First 7 full years…..63.8…..AVERAGING OVER 9 WAR/year, over TWICE what Harper has amassed.
Harper has 1 MVP
Trout has 2 MVP and 3-4 2nd Place MVP that could EASILY have won MVP each year, and probably SHOULD have.
Trout is gonna dwarf the AAV, probably 50MM/Year for 9-10 years
Philly, Dodgers, Yankees, Giants Angels…..every one of those 5 teams can afford that.
ONE of them is gonna give Trout what he wants, because Trout is gonna increase attendance, TV ratings, and merchandise sales. He basically will pay for himself, or a large part of his salary anyway you look at it.
He was offered ~$45M for 5 yrs. or something like that though…
He is not getting $50M per year in a deal that long after another two years. If this rumor of 10/$350M (AFTER he reaches free agency) is true, it’s an awesome offer by the Angels… since it’s basically 12/$416M now.
Still – tough to accept unless the Angels give him a couple opt outs in there… he may want to have that option if the Angels can’t build a winning team.
The biggest issue with this line of thinking is that Trout has no interest in marketing himself
Red Sox could afford that
Harper was offered $45M/5yrs according to Scott Boras. How accurate that is, l don’t know …
8/400 is ridiculous. 8/300 maybe.
If Trout says no to $350M, 400M etc…. He’s leaving lol
10 years, 350M is competitive for the game’s best player
10 yrs 350m is not getting it done for Trout. Doubt he wants to stay in CA playing for a team that can’t even make the playoffs anyways
Dumb comment. Trout has to take his age into consideration. The Angels already “did right” by Trout by giving him 160 million when he was young. They could have rode out arbitration and perhaps saved some money. Trout will be older than Harper, and I think a lot of teams will be hesitant to give a deal to a player who would finish his contract at 40. For all the hate Pujols gets, his numbers with the Cards are INSANE, perhaps better than Trout’s numbers. I think he HAS to accept an offer in the $350-$400 million range because I doubt teams will be able to beat that considering he will technically be approaching his decline years.
Trout will be 3 years younger than pujols was when he signed. And while some of pujols’ offensive numbers may have been better than trout’s, mike trout is still a better player than Albert pujols was. So no your argument is just silly because trout will be TECHNICALLY approaching his prime when he is expected to become a free agent. There’s a good chance we haven’t even seen the best of trout
A player’s prime isn”t into his thrities.
Trout better than Pujols? Please, take a look at Pujols numbers. Pujols regularly hit .330 with an OPS near 1.100 for many seasons. You guys tend to forget how good Pujols was.
Trout is lightyears ahead of Pujols. Look at WAR alone. Pujols was great but he is not even close to Trout.
And look at literally everything other than WAR.. pujols put up ungodly numbers! As good as trout is..Pujols was better
Pujols didnt have the speed Trout does, was 3 years older, and wasnt a gold glove center fielder. Pujols also showed signs of slight decline and age his last year before free agency. Only possible comparable can be Arods free agency, and he shattered all other free agent contracts at the time.
Trout has a 416 obp for life Pujols has a 382 and in an 18 year career has reached Trouts ave 6 times .Pulols has a dWAR of-2.2 as a firstbaseman Trout as an outfielder has a career 2.9. Pujols averages 7sbs a year Trout 29.These are all important aspects of a players overall ability. So even though Pujols was amazing to say he was better in everything but WAR is just ridiculous
To say that the Angels “did right” by Trout is kind of silly. It is not like they were being generous or anything. If anything, you should have written that Trout has already “done right” by the Angels and Angels fans by accepting that offer. Teams will pay more than that for his “decline” years.
Yes, Pujols was a good hitter but he was never a good athlete. That is the difference between players who tend to age well and those who tend to age poorly.
Everyone needs to shut up about the Angels not making the playoffs. That was Mike Scioscia’s Angels. He never cared about winning after he signed his stupid ten year deal. Finally the Angels can get back to trying to win. They got rid of Nagy too. Before Nagy became the pitching coach the Angels rarely had pitcher injuries. Nagy gets hired and almost everyone needed Tommy John surgery. Obviously he doesn’t have a clue how to handle pitchers and keep them healthy.
Hey I want to play, with your crooked player named drop. Tit for Taint not even “The Son of God” (Earlier Commenter) Combined with “The Machine” Had the Speed former coward teammate Hamilton had.
I think the only way he signs an extension is with an early opt-out. Angels have been borderline inept in putting a playoff team around him. I’d be very surprised if he doesn’t get to FA. He’ll get his contract, and he’ll be able to make a decision on where to go.
Pujols IS/WAS an athlete. His problem is everyone thinks he’s 5 years younger than he really is. He may have cut down his age in documents for symmetry.
Gleybor Torres is most likely not 22 years old this year. Maybe he was 22 years old… three years ago. But when he was allegedly 21 last year, he didn’t have a 21 year-old body.
Trout beat Pujols in WAR every year of their first 7 years of their careers, except when Trout missed time due to injury. Trout’s WAR total after 7 yrs in 7+ more win above replacement than Albert’s.
Numbers show Trout as an average CF. Gold gloves seem to be given out based on the players bat more often than not.
Pujols led MLB in WAR 6 times, Trout 5 times. Albert is the current active leader in WAR (100). Trout beats Pujols in baserunning and defense, but Pujols was definitely a better hitter in his peak years. You guys have short termed memories.
It’s not silly because they gave Trout an average of $24 million. THAT IS GENEROUS considering they would have saved money if they didn’t extend him. Plus, he could have dropped off at any point and could have been a waste of money. You guys sure assume a lot of things.
Trout isn’t a gold glove centerfielder either. He’s never won the award, and his stats say he’s just slightly above average in that department. You’re right about the speed. And you’re also right that even an average centerfielder is far more valuable than a first base only player.
Better than Trout? I agree they were insane, but not better than Trout. Offensively comparable, maybe, but Albert averaged ~2 WAR less per year over that span. Trout smokes him on the bases (though he was no slouch) plus Trout plays a premium defensive position very well.
That “deal” the Angels did with Trout was the BEST deal ever done by that organization. In my view, they got the best deal. Trout’s agent was outplayed by Moreno.
Pujols has a very good argument as the greatest defensive first baseman of all time. He was a plus left fielder and third baseman before his elbow injury (partially torn UCL) pushed him to 1B. He was an above average baserunner before the plantar fascia. This idea that Pujols was never a good athlete is completely false. If Pujols feet had stayed healthy we’d be talking about him as an all time great (probably should anyway) instead of talking about his decline.
However, Mike Trout is a step above. Pujols in every facet of the game other than bat. We’ll have to see what Trouts decline phase looks like but right now I’d bet he and Pujols end up about the same there.
No, it is not. Not when the games best player is a generational talent. It is, not even all that close to being competitive. It might be in two years, but as far as an extension, it is not close.
Not when Machado and Harper got $300mm and $330mm. Why would Trout settle for $350mm? It’s been widely talked about that he will likely get $400 or more. He’ll be worth every penny too. When he regresses he’ll probably still be as good as those other 2 are now.
I wish there was a downvote button. I don’t know a team in the league other than the ones with cheapass owners like the Marlins that wouldn’t take Trout at that price.
Completely agree… with no downvote it is harder to take exception to stupid comments. And said comments are becoming ubiquitous.
The LAA are lucky that Scott Boras is not MIke Trout’s agent. Mr. Boras would ask Mr. Moreno a simple question.. Mr. Moreno, MIke is the BEST BAseball Player on the planet. He is the FACE of MLB. He, in no small part, has greatly increased the value of YOUR Franchise from $189,000,000, to over $ 1,ooo,ooo,ooo,00. When you, Mr. Moreno, signed an aging Albert Pujols for $254,000,000.00, you implored him to sign and become “your Partner”…
So, sir, HOW much is MIke Trout worth?
The LAA are lucky you’re not Trout’s agent.
Mr. MOreno makes it easy…in every interview, he, either, talks about Buying TV Networks, Radio Stations, building New Ballparks, and that HIS TEAM has NO debt. He told Forbes his team was worth nearly a Billion dollars!
With all of that, how can he NOT, gladly, reward the man who, more than most anybody, made Mr. Moreno all this incredible wealth.
He going to Philly.
He’ll leave anyway man. He’s a Phillies fan and the Phillies has the money to offer.
Not gonna cut it
only worth $20mm than harper? add another 50mm and maybe he’ll listen
$20mil more and three years less.
Exactly
Years matter
Up it by 50 million and maybe. 350 definitely wont get it done
At some point we have to get real with these salaries. The numbers show it all.. Mike Trout is the best player in baseball and deserves to be paid as such but what’s the real impact of his play in terms of wins and attendance? The Angels have a couple of other good players but them + Trout has resulted in 1 playoff appearance in which they were swept. Despite having the best player in baseball the attendance for the Angels has been alternating between 5-7 before and after he joined the team. So considering that Mike Trout at age 27 won’t be the same Mike Trout at age 34 what’s the motivation to go way above the $35 mil per he’s making now? I can’t see any team other than the Angels willing to go to $350 or above outside of the Yankees and perhaps the Dodgers but simply because of his marketing value potential in those markets and those two iconic team brands.
“At some point we have to get real with these salaries.”
For a minute, it looked like that’s what we were doing this year. So much for that idea.
Totally agree with you southbeachbully. I don’t even think the Dodgers or the Yankees could afford $50m a year. That’s a quarter of the teams payroll for one player. I think 10/400 is fair, it probably under pays him the first 5 years but will over pay him the second half of the deal
10 for 400 with an opt out at year 5 or 6 prob gets it done and you get him through age 38, where pujols contract goes to age 42. A healthy Trout will be elite most of those years, if not all of them
I would bet Pujols is 3 years OLDER than he claims.
Article says he’s been worth $500m to the Angels since 2011…
Salaries are insane, so is the revenue these teams are taking in
Trout might not get the Angels to the playoffs but he’s a big reason the Angels still sell three million tickets per season. That’s enough reason to keep him. Arte Moreno will have a hard time selling that many tickets if he lets Trout get away. And now that Scioscia is gone the Angels have a chance to win a lot more games. Scioscia was a horrible manager. His biggest problem was how he managed the pitchers. He never had anyone ready to come in late in games when a pitcher was struggling. He lost a lot of games the Angels should have easily won with his horrible managing.
I bet it would shock you if you actually looked up the annual attendance for the seasons prior to Trout’s debut til present.
2005- 3.4 mil
2008- 3,3 mil
2011- 3.1 mil (his rookie season)
2014- 3.0 mil
2018-3,0 mil
The Angels drew well over 3 mil in the years prior, have been decreasing every year since 2005 and since his arrival attendance has continued to gradually decline.
In addition to not being able to drag his team to a single victory in his post-season career then is he really worth more than $350 mil especially when you know his performance will likely decline in the last few years of a 10+ year contract?
Hands down he’s the best player but his jersey tales have never been top 15 so his merchandising profitability isn’t that better than several other stars in the game.
disclaimer: I know that one guy alone can’t drag a team to contention like it can in the NBA…..but that’s my point.
Trout just may be the reason those numbers didn’t dip under 3m
He obviously isn’t the difference between playoff wins & losses…. The money he can bring in being the face of the franchise is insane. $500m during all those losing campaigns from Trout related business alone. Now that’s a season saver!
You type too much. Oy
I agree, despite being labeled as the best player in baseball, Mike Trout doesn’t call the shots here. It’s whatever a team is willing to pay him. But I do believe there will be more teams after Trout than there were for Machado and Harper. I guess the new CBA deal will tell us more about that. Trout is a marketer’s wet dream. He can bring a more lucrative TV deal, sell tons of jerseys, and even contribute to world peace.
If I were Brodie and the Mets and he were available, I’d go after Trout hard. Limos, girls, blow, and a cutsie video presentation with cool animations.
Do your argument was applied to overrated Harper?
Get it done Angels!!
Time to use the big seine.
He wont sign anything until free agency. Trade him now or lose leverage.
no way in this lifetime could i spend 350M
I could try
Yachts cost more than that.
I could spend it in less than 3 days.
I can help….have Mike call me….(I’m just that kinda guy)….
Remember that it’s California and their high state and local taxes with take millions….not to mention the third uncle Sam will take. Close to half will be taxed away.
Oh yeah, those taxes would probably make him a pauper. Let’s start a Gofundme right now.
Good thing he’ll be goin to philly
I’d spend a lot on drugs, booze and women. Then I would just blow the rest on crap!
Yes!
You, my friend, lack imagination then.
Fenway’s a 15 min walk. 1 ticket + 1 beer= $50
Boats and ho’s
He can invest a ton of that in stocks and property or whatever and receive much much more every year after that proposed contract is finished. I hate when players ask for too much. You’re only hurting the team financially. You can ask for a reasonable contract while helping your team commit more money to more good players and still be good money wise for the post baseball career if you are smart with your money.
Can you specify the last time you took less so your owner and co workers could make more?
This is the best comment I have seen regarding the player’s salaries debate. No one in the real world settles for less so the owner can make more or hire better people.
moreno has made more than ANYONE, almost a Billion dollars. He can now buy TV stations.
The majority of the workforce in the real world aren’t mulling over 10/$300,000,000 DC and 13/$330,000,000 Philly offers. Professional athletes aren’t standing in line at the gas station waiting to buy lottery tickets, beer, and cigarettes.
It is actually not uncommon for an athlete to take a pay cut to give ownership financial flexibility to sign more help and stay under the luxury tax threshold.
of course after you pay your agent and taxes you’re down a good percentage of that already.
…….my ex wife would give it a go…
350 million dollar commitment when he’s 2 years away from free agency? Woof that’s a risk alright
If the man retired today, he’d be a hall of famer. He’s well worth a blank check.
Technically he wouldn’t qualify. Rule says a player has to be in the big leagues for 10 years. So he won’t be until after the 2021
season. (Maybe 2020. Not sure if his brief stint in 2011 would count)
Yes, it does count. The requirement is 10 seasons. There is no qualifier for partial seasons. So technically you could qualify for the HOF after playing 10 games if you played 1 per year.
How did that work out for Pujols or Cabrera? I definitely am not saying that is Trouts future but your argument could apply to them as well at one point. But the resigning to a giant extension years before he’s a free agent reminds me of Miggy
I’m not saying Trout won’t break down at all, but I don’t think it’s really ideal to compare an athletic centerfielder to 2 immobile first basemen…
Ok, to make an Angels reference Vlad Guerrero might be closer. Vlad is one of my favorite all time players but he was done by 35
No he wouldn’t. The HOF requires 10 seasons played. He has not yet reached that.
If he died today, God forbid, he’d be an exception to the rule.
You could have also said that about Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera when they signed their deals. How’s that look today? Father time is still undefeated and Mike Trout will lose to him as well eventually. Trout will one day have one of the worst contracts in the big leagues. It is inevitable.
Tom Brady – 1, Father Time – 0.
Today, well Miggy hit a hr against the Braves. I would’nt start judging contracts until they are over
Henry Aaron hit 393 hrs after the ageof 29.Guess those thirties really hurt him Willie Mays hit 389 hrs. Another guy who really died in the 30s. And since they were athletic outfielders about comparison for trout then Pujols or Cabrera
totally understand what you’re saying; Trout is truly a HOF-type player in every sense of the meaning… that being said, I’d be interested in seeing how Trout would value himself monetarily if given a blank check…
hmmm, if Trout retired today because he wanted to snort blow and focus on his air guitar career…
He would have a career .307 (7+ seasons) batting average… HOF worthy
1187 hits… not HOF worthy
240 homers… not HOF worthy
793 runs… not HOF worthy
648 rbi… not HOF worthy
64.3 career WAR… HOF worthy
So there would be no real justification for him to make the HOF if he retired today. Harold Baines has a better case at this point in Trout’s career. Just saying.
If he died today instead of retiring today then I think that he would make the hall of fame. Or if he became suddenly disabled. But yeah if he kept playing and was just terrible for the rest of his career then he probably doesn’t make it
I thought the same too until I looked at other stats. He currently has the 9th highest OPS of any player with at least 4,500 PA. Obviously that will lower in time but if he were to, God forbid, never play another game he would merit being voted in (if has enough at bats to qualify).
mark my words vlad guerrero jr will sign a contract +500M
He could flame out, and he wont hit FA for six years, thanks arb manipulating jays.
Plus he hasn’t even taken his first AB yet. My only concerns with vlad JR is his bad physical conditioning
Not as long as Rogers owns the team. They are as cheap as they come. Their only concern is filling their coffers. Sad that they were ever allowed to buy the team. Jays will never win the WS as long as they are the owners. Vlad may get $500M but it’ll be with another team.
This viewpoint is idiotic. All one need to is look at a)The value of the franchise, b)The revenue the franchise draws and c)How much money the team spends during a boom to determine that the Jays are not in fact a cheap team. Jays stadium prices are far lower than any of the other top spenders in baseball (not to mention that CAD is worth much less than USD), which people never consider when talking about attendance. Engagement is a factor in advertising revenue: Canadian fans are not as engaged as US fans and there is not as much competition for advertising on CAD networks.
People make the mistake of looking at their attendance during their last boom and say “This team should spend more than anyone!” but alas, the Jays are only going to make money if they are winning. Winning in the AL East is harder than virtually any other division in baseball. Due to geographical concerns, the Jays cannot compete year in year out with the Yankees and Red Sox. Until the US annexes Canada prior to WWIII, Toronto will always be a boom and bust team.
hope he does. but not with jays since his knees won’t last that long.
If he gets defense up and his girth down.
Does he swing at everything like his dad? Or does he have a good strike zone.
Does it really matter? I’d say Vlad Sr. had a pretty great strike zone, seeing as he slashed .317/.379/.553 for his career with a whopping 10.9 K% (8.1 BB%). The guy could, and did, hit absolutely anything and everything.
Every time i’d see him chase a pitch, he always seemed to hit it hard somewhere.
… ridiculous. The kid hasn’t seen a single pitch in an MLB regular season game and he’s already set for $500 million? Turn Sportsnet off, you need a break. Just let the kid play.
Cool story bro
Tatis will be better. MARK MY WORDS
Mark my words.. Juan Soto will be better than both
Mark my words. Ronald Acuna is better then Juan Soto
Mark my words. Fantasy is ALWAYS better than reality in all forms of life and that includes baseball prospects.
So basically they’re gonna lie to their fans and say they tried to sign him like the Nationals did with Harper….
Only 20 more million than Harper won’t be enough despite the higher AAV. The only thing that might be a concern with trout is that he will he almost 30 when he is in his walk year BUUUT he is a once in a generation talent and besides his speed the rest of his talents should age well
He is also 2 years away from free agency. Typically the further a player is from free agency, the more of a discount one should expect. 2 years is a long time
The season is about to start though so the time is ticking my friend. If Albert albatross wasn’t with them I’d like their chances to resign him even more
Yeah, but you’re talking about Mike Trout, NOT a “typical” player. I wouldn’t count on a discount.
10/400. Greatest player i have ever seen. If he says no I call the Pads and Braves and offer him up for half their farm system.
He has a full no trade clause. The Braves wouldn’t pay the 34.5 mil he is owed next season.
Every team in baseball would happily have trout for 2 years and 66.5 million. Even the Marlins.
I think you are dead wrong. The Marlins, the Royals and several others wouldn’t sign Mickey Mantle in his prime for 2 years and 66.5 because they are CHEAP!!!!
take em all, done
2yrs/ 350MM seems adequate.
Don’t underestimate the desire to win a WS… it might not end up being about money, but about realistic opportunity. Hope they can come up with a plan and he retires there with everything he wants.
Hey, relax. The Angels hired Brad Ausmus to lead them to the WS.
I sort of think the owner some times dictated how the team was run. Brad might have had his hands tied, either leave or follow his orders. L A might be more of his own managing skills. Not sure, just how things looked to me.
Release this man from the mediocrity prison of the Anaheim Angels.
Would be hilarious to see the Rays trade Wander Franco+ for him and win a title
So what you’re acknowleding is that inorder to win the future $400-500 million dollar man needs to be on a team with other stars who can pitch, hit and play defense? Doesn’t that narrow his market down considerably? A limited market will marginalize what he can demand.
Not totally true. We’re talking about Mike Trout, not just any player here, but the definite best player in the game. All it takes is 2 teams to realllly want a player (and if those teams include any of the Red Sox, Dodgers, Phillies or Yankees, nothing will be marginalized), and the price will keep going up and up.. If he plays the next 2 seasons anything like he has in his career so far, he’ll have plenty of suitors ready to back up the brinks trucks for him.
Build a winning team first
If they have indeed internally considered this, it being leaked is about the worst thing that could happen. You’ve got the best player in the game. The reason Angels fans have hope and to have this out there does them no good. Only a few select people within the organization should be privy to any extension talks for Trout.
Plus its gotta be 12/500 for Trout.
Too bad Philly has literally said and proven it with Harper, that they will beat the best offer.
I thought Los Dohers had a better offer for Harper, personally. 4 years/180m
You would hope he wouldn’t want to cripple any organization by allocating so much of the salary cap on one player. If he wants to win.
35M annually is plenty walking around money. The extra 5M annually could go to a player to help him win at the level he wants.
Trout understands this and he’s not leaving Laguna Beach. He lives in one of the nicest places on Earth. Very slim chance he wants to go live out the rest of his days in Philly.
How do they satisfy his desire to win big? $5 million won’t go that far. Just curious.
And what salary cap are you referring to?
He’s from Philly, spends time in the offseason in Philly, has been seen rocking an Eagles hat, etc.
Pretty sure he would be willing to go home. Keep in mind, he can live in that beautiful place in the offseason, when it’s not hot in Philly.
If anyone deserves a crazy salary, it’s Mike Trout. He doesn’t intentionally spike anyone, doesn’t walk down to first on a groundout, and doesn’t let a ball drop that he can’t at least dive at in CF. If ever there was a true “throwback” player, it’s this guy. Hope he blows away what Harper got, reward those who truly make watching the game a joy.
clip long as a Pringles can
4-5 Desert Eagle on me, you’ll think I’m a Eagles fan
Short cut on a Twinkies box made a 7-10 split pea soup spill on me. I like the 49ers.
He’s a huge Eagles fan now and Philadelphia sports fan growing up. He was at the Phillies 2008 championship parade.
Word?
Like how the Phil’s and Harper did their deal.
That’s not going to get it done. Every team in the league is going to pony up the money. Trout wants to know what the roster will be in 2021-2026. He is going to play out his deal, assess the Angels roster in 2021 then negotiate with all 30 teams and select the team he believes will win many rings.
IF he is smart, he will. Arte MOreno is a clever guy. How do you think the Angels got Ohtani? I would be their was something dirty about that deal.
The Angels have a better roster than the Pirates. The Angels barely won 80 games. The Angels can outspend the Pirates easily in terms of resources. How in the world can teams like the Pirates be contenders for Trout? Common sense will say that he teams that would be in on Trout are probably no more than 6-8 teams. He’s been the best player in baseball but how has he impacted wins and losses? Yes, the Angels would be worse without him but with him they’ve been mediocre at best.
This offer would be comical. The fact that they have to ponder it on their end makes me think that the two sides are too far apart for a deal to get done before he hits the open market.
Unless it’s a baseline offer I agree with your statement
That’s two years from now. Anything can happen in two years. The Angels could improve a great deal or get even worse. He could keep this historic pace or battle a rash of injuries. Two years is a long time in sports.
The current CBA also expires then and we all know the players are gonna push hard for a considerably higher luxury tax at the very least
Excellent point! I didn’t think about the luxury tax.
Make it 11 years 425MM and I think that would be enough to lock him down.
Don’t insult the man with 10 Years 350MM.
He’s just gonna scoff at that…
I think the intangible of people referring to the greatest player ever being an Angel should be in the equation.
It’s essentially 12 years and $416.5 mil
Extension added to the final two years
Let’s please make a difference between the greatest Angel ever and the greatest player ever. Saying that Trout could be the greatest player ever sounds like someone who has know appreciation of baseball on a historical level.
Mike Trout could stop playing baseball today, and he’d still EASILY be one of the (if not the) greatest players to ever play the game.
Average year for Babe Ruth 46 hrs 143 rbis 342 ba 474 obp 1.164 ops. And Ruth played until he was 40 Now what were you saying
Laughable. Comparing baseball in that era and today has too many variables. If you got the talent from last year’s pool and played a team like Ruth’s, they would crush Ruth’s team. The work effort and skill alone would destroy those teams. The talent pool is too great compared to a so dead ball era/segregation and bias good ol.days of baseball
I will live up to my name and offer some perspective here.
The Babe may be the best player ever. His stats certainly back it up. But playing ball in 1927 is different than 2019. Can we agree?
The dimensions for ballparks were quite different – sometimes no walls at all like in the old polo grounds in left field. Sometimes, the walls were even shorter than they are today. The fact that The Babe hit more homers than teams combined is a testament to his greatness… but back then, it was as important to get the bat on the ball and move the runners over than swinging for the fences each time up.
It is said that hitting a baseball is the hardest thing to do in sports. The Babe used a very heavy bat… which means that either he was bullet fast or fastballs weren’t as fast as they are today. I doubt that.
So we can safely assume that Trout could have been able to hit 1927 pitching (easily), using 1927 equipment. But it is tougher to say if The Babe could handle 101mph fastballs and 76mph change-ups in the same at-bat. Just saying…
Greatest player ever… Mike Trout.
Greatest Angel ever… Bobby Grich
Try and downvote that one boys!
Why are we assuming that he wants to be the Highest paid player ever? What if he values winning more?
Because he’s making $33m this year. Money matters (a lot) bro!!!
Pay that man his money…
Take it doown!!
Trout wants to win badly, something the Angels havent done the last 4 years, He knows with Phillies signing Harper, the management wants to win too.. Since Trout only lives 31 miles from Philly, why should he stay with the Angels, Phillies still have millions of dollars waiting for him. Probably 35-40 million dollars a year and he will sign in Philly,
Trout may very well want to play for the Phillies.
Or maybe they are the absolute last team he wants to play for, seeing how Philly fans turn on players, not wanting to risk becoming a pariah in his hometown if he becomes another Pujols.
You don’t get to be a Mike Trout by having so little confidence that you’re scared of playing at home.
You’re nuts if you can’t see Trout LOVES Philadelphia sports, he comes here so often some fans might believe he already plays for the Phillies.. You’d better get use to it Mike Trout is coming to the city of brotherly love?
With 35 million a year I don’t think he’ll have any trouble commuting to the games even from California
one of the few position players worth it. best player of the generation hands down
If Bryce Harper is worth $330 Trout is worth a LOT more than $350
This would be 12 years (one less that Harper) and $416.5 mil tacking on the extension. So I agree he is worth more than Harper and $350 mil
Even if you give credit for that, it’s an underpay.
Just looking at the big contracts/extensions this offseason of about 26, 30, and 34 mil per, Trout blows all of them away. You can’t honestly say his talent and skills, compared to those others, is worth less than 35 mil per as a fair market value deal.
If he wants to give a discount, so be it. But anyone who plays in CA is already giving a HUGE discount due to income tax bracket and millionaire surtax penalty on their wages.
You delusional Philly fans won’t stop. Why should he automatically go to the Phillies because he lives in South Jersey. What makes you think that there are even going to be in contention for a World Series. This year the Phillies will come in third place at best. When do division and then talk.
With their logic he will be a Yankee as nj is next to nyc but even I know “home” doesn’t mean a thing with these high priced free agents lol
Maybe you need to ask Trout why he loves Philadelphia sports?
Trout on the open market will see a bidding war between the Yankees, Dodgers, Phillies, and who knows who else, 350 million is a lot of money.
That war would be legendary
I wish I could downvote the removal of the downvotes. 🙁
Stfu.
Speak for yourself. — Down-voters were cowards.
The Nick Cafardo RIP thread, was an ultimate disgrace.
If it weren’t for CA taxes, Harper would be on the Dodgers or Giants and Trout would be on the Angels for life. But then again, if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle, so if’s don’t mean squat
San Frans new minor league affiliate
San Bruno Libcucks
Don’t get it. Please explain.
Can’t really assume that Harper would be on the Dodgers or Giants, or that Trout would be on the Angels for life, if not for the taxes in CA. Maybe winning to him is more important than some extra $, and in 2 years he leaves the Angels for an organization he believes has a legit chance to win a World Series. The Angels haven’t done much of anything since he signed his extension, who’s to say he would stay there for his whole career, especially if they don’t make a solid playoff run either of the next 2 years?
Never thought I’d say this, but….$350,000,000 is an insult.
The offer for Trout should be $500 million over 10 if Moreno is serious. And even that might not be enough to lock him up early.
Ridiculous. He obviously means a lot to the organization but he has had little impact on them being a yearly contender and he hasn’t effected attendance relative to the years prior to his debut. He’s not even top 5 in jersey sales. He is a great, great player but there is a divide between analytical valuation and real world results. Law of diminishing returns begs to know “why is Trout worth more than the $35 mil per he’s getting now”?
Who the hell cares if he’s top 5 in jersey sales or not? To even mention that, is beyond ridiculous. Yadier Molina was #10 in jersey sales last year, does that mean he’s a better player than Trout? He’s easily the best player in MLB, and it’s not even remotely close, regardless of jersey sales. To say he’s had little impact on them being a contender is also ridiculous. Through his age 26 season, he is tied for the most WAR of ANY players in the history of MLB with Ty Cobb at 63.4… He’s played 7 full seasons at the MLB level, and he’s averaged 9.1 WAR/season… He’s done more than his fair share of shouldering the weight of that organization, without him the Angels don’t even come remotely close to the playoffs ever (only went to the playoffs in 2014 and look what he did that season).
What about his retirement and insurance?
Not enough.
GIVE HIM ALL THE MONEY ALREADY, ARTE
he’s leaving regardless of what they offer. he’s gonna sign with the Yankees. It’s whats best for baseball.
What’s best for baseball involves a bus crash and 40 yankee broken ankles. That would be best for baseball. I’m just kidding. Not. No, I seriously am NOT kidding…….not (which means I am). Wait, am I or am I NOT kidding?
Why on earth would Mike Trout want to resign with this awful franchise?
Get it done Halos.
I would add 2 more option years at 30 mil per year making it 12yrs 410-415 mil
This is a typo, right? Should say 450
I’d give him $336M over 8 years ($42M AAV), slightly frontloaded if possible (although it may have to be frontloaded starting on the second year of the deal, seeing as they’ll still owe Pujols $30M during that first year). As great as he is, his age still matters, you know.
MORE!!!
Please no. Go anywhere else, please. The Angels cant win with Trout and I would hate to see him waste his years on a team that cant make the playoffs with the best player i the game and their payroll stretched thin.
I hated to see Ichiro trapped in SEA and I have hated seeing Trout stuck with LAA
The Ernie Banks scenario.
The Red Sox just hired Trout’s second cousin (on his mother’s side) twice removed, through marriage. Her name is Wanda Blowfish and she’ll be in charge of player entertainment.
Seriously folks, the guy’s got Fenway written all over him…..
Word just came in that he maybe probably sort of watched the superbowl. Who know whos in the SB? The Patriots. You know where theyre from? Really close to Boston.
I think Fenway has him written all over it tbh!
Comments like this are why we need down votes.
We need downvotes because of sarcastic comments? Or are you being sarcastic
12/426M or 35.5 Aav
That’s what it would be
If socialism and 90% tax rates take hold Harper and Trout won’t see that much.
Plain to see this thread will run a while.
Man, that Phillies outfield is going to look awesome in ’21.
offensively yes, but maybe not so good defensively.
In other news, Mike Trout seen giggling excessively in his living room.
There’s no reason for anything to happen soon. Trout probably wants to see how the Angels do this year for now. If he really is thinking of Philly, he probably wants to see how they do too. The Angels don’t have to rush anything either. If Trout battles a rash of injuries in the next couple years (think Ken Griffy Jr.) they’re not going to throw $400+ million at him. I’m not arguing that his production has been remarkable so far. But it’s not about what he has done, it’s about what he will do. For $400+ million, they may want to wait at least another year and make sure he’s still tip top before they offer that. If things go bad, it will cripple the payroll similar to the Pujols signing, only worse.
Trout brings so much value to the LAA in so many ways. He is the FACE of The Game. He is the ALL AMERICAN BOY, everyone loves. He gives the Angels a much broader fan base, in my opinion.
Welcome to the Phils Mr.Trout.
Attendance hasn’t improved a bit since Trout debuted. His merch sales aren’t even top 5. What’s his real draw appeal? Angel’s have never ranked inside the top 15 in road attendance. He simply has NOT had a single impact on the Angels aside from that 1 playoff series in which they were swept.
Being serious, I think people will be amazed and what he actually signs for unless the Angels get really silly and overpay for what he means to the team in a PR sense.
Ultimately the contract is 12 years for 418 million. It’s not a 10 year 350 cause it’s adding to his active contract. This really does apply cause if he was Injured next year he will be owed 11 years 385+ million.
And if offering the most money and the highest is in insult you must not be a business owner.
When nobody else can make an offer, being the highest doesn’t mean that much
Not enough
Its 2 years away. You want him on the team today, gotta trade for him. Lot can happen in 2 years. RAJ thought he was ahead of the curve extending Ryan Howard 2 years in advance of FA for 5/125M. That went well? Health will be key, if they have a 10 yr 350M extension on the table, it would be hard to pass up. 2 down years, 2 injury plagued years and hed be looking at Josh Donaldson prove it years.
As much as I want him in Philly, cant waste 2 years of prime Harper, Realmuto, NOLA, etc.. need to go All In now and build a WS worthy staff behind NOLA and Arrieta. Waiting for Trout is foolish.
I totally agree. You can’t hold everything up because there might be a chance to get him in two years. This isn’t basketball, where a talent like MJ or LeBron can almost single handedly get you to the finals.
No chance he signs that offer. I don’t even think 10 x $400 million would be acceptable for his market value.
I think at some point a guy wanting to win has to mean more than just money right? I mean if a team offers 10 years and 350 million but the team just flat out can’t build a winning team but another ran that’s winning, always in the hunt for a World Series offers you 10 years 335-340 million would you take the less to win? Or is it all about money? In this case, this guy really wants to win so i would think he would wait to hit free agency instead of taking a extension and see what’s out there as far as what teams that are winning are willing to offer him.
Trout is walking… no amount of money will replace a championship. He is a winner and wants to play late into Oct/Nov. He would take the 10 $350m for a team that is competing year in and year out. Look for the obvious Yankees, RedSox, Cubs, Cards, Dodgers. Not exactly out on a limb here but…
10/400 is the starting point. What he’ll bring in regarding ticket sales, TV, etc. is worth it. And he’s someone who can be the face of any franchise.
But he hasn’t shown his brand is strong at all. he plays in the 2nd largest media market yet his merch sales aren’t even top 5 and the Angels don’t draw any better than 5th before and after and they don’t draw top 15 on the road. I mean his jersey sales ranked 11th right behind Yadier Molina. We have real numbers now. We can evaluate his impact. He might be well served to sign a 10’/$350 mil offer if extended by Angels. It’s market is reduced to maybe 5 teams from the beginning.
We’re talking LA – Dodger town. Angels are the step children of the LA area. Put him in NY or Philly and watch the media bonanza begin. St. Louis is a baseball town, hence Molina.
pujols was a FOOL to leave St. Louis for a few extra bucks. Had he stayed in St. Louis, he would be a HERO forever, and would have made 10 times the money in goodwill, endorsements and business opportunities.
Trout also has the personality of a can of soda. He seems like a wonderful guy but he is just soooo boring. It’s hard to market the best player in baseball when he’s just a snooze.
And that “can of soda” had $2.5m in endorsements last year. “He has deals with Nike, BodyArmor, Rawlings, J&J Snack Foods and Zepp Labs. In 2014, Trout was the first Nike baseball player to get his own signature shoe since Ken Griffey Jr.” For being a “can of soda” “A 2017 survey of sports business executives by the SportsBusinessDaily tabbed Trout as baseball’s most marketable player. He also has the most Twitter followers of any player with 2.5 million.”
By comparison Kershaw had $750k, Price $650K, Pujols $1m, Verlander $1m, Miguel Cabrera $500k, King Felix $400k, Cespedes $500k, Posey $3.5m, Greinke $50k, Mauer $500k, Votto $300, Cano $1m, Tanaka $1m.
We don’t know what Harper made as the terms of his 2016 Armour deal were never released.
forbes.com/sites/kurtbadenhausen/2018/04/11/major-…
Yes, he has endorsements because he might be the very best baseball player of all time. But he’s a real boring guy. It’s okay; there’s only so much excitement you can muster up about the Eagles and weather.
Your opinion….”It’s hard to market the best player in baseball when he’s just a snooze.”
One of my fact based points…. “A 2017 survey of sports business executives by the SportsBusinessDaily tabbed Trout as baseball’s most marketable player. He also has the most Twitter followers of any player with 2.5 million.”
That was the whole reason for my post.
Yeah? Tell me one thing about him that isn’t about his love for the weather or the Philadelphia Eagles. Like, seriously. Tell me about what he supports politically. Tell me about his charity work. Tell me a single thing about him besides those two things I mentioned. A single survey from two years ago doesn’t really move the needle much for me. I don’t follow basketball really at all, but I can tell you 20 things about LeBron James off the top of my head. I hate the NFL but I can easily tell you more about Tom Brady than I can about Mike Trout.
So if someone is a bit more private they are boring as a can of soda to you?
I showed you that those in the profession disagree with you yet you all but deny it which is typical. You agree with any fact that supports your belief and dismiss others.
Your online life, and mostly offline as well, is spent trying to prove you are always right and to all but badger anyone who utters a statement in support of a metric you do not care for.
If you were the genius you want others to believe you to be, you would know that baseball players always rank much lower in endorsements etc than others. It is the way of the business.
Roger Federer made $65m (more than LeBron) in endorsements in 2018, do you know lots about him too? Sam Bradford and Eli Manning made more than Brady in endorsements who didn’t even make the top 100.
As for what I know about Trout, does it matter? I know he is devoted to his family and friends, his high school sweetheart wife still works as a teacher even though she doesn’t have to and his Red Corvette he received for AS MVP sat in his parents garage until he bought his 300 acre farm/woodland home about 5 minutes from his parents house.
Does ant of that matter? Nope….except to you it seems.
Have a nice day
Oh, I forgot to add that I know that runs scored is the stat Trout values most, not WAR, not, OPS+, not wOBA. I shouldn’t bother mentioning it as your reply will probably as it was in the past when I mentioned a poll showed that no player polled valued WAR. Your response was (I’ll paraphrase) “baseball players are not known for being smart”
Wait, you know me offline? Creepy. Anyway, I think if Mike Trout walked into the grocery store near my house nobody would recognize him. I couldn’t say the same for LeBron or Tom Brady. That’s basically all I meant. No need to attack me personally, although personal attacks are the last refuge of scoundrels, as someone or other once observed.
And WAR, in its various forms, and its predecessor, Bill James’ Win Shares, are metrics, not statistics. WAR is for public consumption, a quick-and-dirty way to establish a player’s value for fans or other people who follow the game from outside it. I can guarantee no player or team uses WAR or takes it seriously; teams have much more data than we do and evaluate their players using all kinds of other standards. If any team is using WAR it’s an internal version of it that we’ll never see, but most teams are basing player evaluations on things like exit velocity, launch angle, sprint speed, and more esoteric things having to do with body size and weight and stuff.
So everybody trusts Ken Rosenthal? Mike Trout is a different kind of guy. He absolutely wants to win, he also is very comfortable in Anaheim. He enjoys living in SoCal. The Angels have several quality prospects in the pipeline and only have three contracts committed in 2021. Right now, the Phillies aren’t as good as the Angels and probably won’t be as good in 2021. If it is only about winning then it probably be the Yankees and Dodgers as the main competition in Free Agency.
This is why Baseball IS the GREATEST GAME on Earth. Guys with differing views, passions and opinions. Its FUN.
Depends. If someone else targets mookie as a “cheaper” option, and particularly if JDM pulls an opt out, you may see the vault open up in Boston in addition to NYY/LAD.
If there’s one thing that would make the fan base forget about losing Mookie, it’d be Trout donning the red stocking in the fens.
My god dude, have you looked at the Phillies roster this year? They are definitely better than the Angels even with Trout and are among the contenders to get to the WS. Seriously look at their lineup and add Trout to it. They would be favored to win a championship this year..
Favored? They would be a dynasty
They won’t get even remotely close to the WS pal..
modifish………..
2019 Steamer Projection for the likely starting 8 in no particular order
BH .260/.395/.530
RH .249/.351/.500
AM .263/.362/.474
JTR .269/.325/.457
MF .263/.318/.473
OH .267/.327/.426
JS .284/.330/.414
CH .256/.350/.365
Hi Cat, I find their projections to be so vanilla every year that I put no credence in them. Something to look at but virtually useless in reality. I’m an old dude, Phillies fan since 1976 (first baseball memories). I go by the eye and gut test. No doubt some will underperform and some will have great years, someone may have a career year. The lineup 1-8 has pop and there is not a slot that is glaringly deficient. It is a good NL lineup. I have a feeling about Franco, whom may be considered weak by some. I think he will surprise. Remember the 08 team won a WS with Pedro Feliz and Carlos Ruiz as weak bats. Anyway, to say that the Angels are better and will remain better than the Phillies is just uninformed or sour grapes….
Modifish…I agree about projections. I just selected one option on fangraphs and did a copy/paste mainly to show others that the line-up is pretty solid. Baseball is played on the field by humans, not algorithms.
I’ve got a few years on you. My Phillies fandom started in 62 with Johnny Callison being my childhood favorite.
I hope you are right about Franco. He showed some flashes last year that he credited to advice from Santana. Hopefully he remembers.
I believe the team will take a step forward this year (as long as Kapler has learned his lessons) with even better years to follow.
Steamer has actually been pretty dead-on over the years. It’s a really good projection system. Dan Szymborski does great work with it and there’s a reason it’s used everywhere – he has a really good track record. (I know you’re going to come after me with some random outlier, but that’s not the way projections work; no system catches outliers.)
That’s your hope talking. I’ll send you a Phils hat.
Bye Mikey boy
say bye to your peter!
Mr. Arte Moreno wanted Pujols so bad, like a fantasy owner . For $243 million Mr. Arte has 83 wins per year. The deal crippled the Angels. Trout is surrounded by mediocrity except for Simmons and Upton. Mr. Arte spent his dollars in a stupid way. Dysfunctional organization. Trout wants out.
Mr. Ricketts here in Chicago, he is a smart money man. He stayed away from Harper and Machado. We trust Mr. Tom. He wants to give Trout a half-billion plus contract in December 2020. Mr. Ricketts knows how to spend his baseball dollars. Trout will be a Cub. Many outfielder dreams of calling Wrigley home. The Cubs with Epstein are a proven winner. An Epstein-built team will give Trout the World Championship he wants much so badly. Other owners should study Mr. Ricketts.
Trout to Phillies – oh gosh I get the belly laughs as I drink cold Czech lager and imagine this! No doubt you’ll trade for Giancarlo Stanton and Jose Altuve too – they all want to be Phils!
http://www.artemoreno.net
you have no brain for the biz side of baseball. owners make killin’ off those huge contracts.
I was at Clearwater today for the Harper press conf and he specifically mentioned cryptically about a “certain someone coming off contract in 2 years” and how his contract terms were intentionally set up to allow the Phillies to make Trout a Phillie in 2021 possibly with an AAV that was reasonable. I am trilled Bryce has pull and will help market our team and city to FA’s in the years ahead. I live in the Tampa Bay area and couldn’t have been more thankful to watch it in person as I was today. The Angels know how this ends with Harper now a Phillie and will have to adjust to Trout with LAA not being the desired local when he ends his term in 2 years.
Mr. Moreno is frightened to death about being seen as stupid, which is the ONLY reason he did not go after Machado or Harper. With Mike Trout, Moreno KNOWS he would be vilified by “his fans” and World of Baseball if he allowed Trout to get away.
As much as I dream about Trout in a Phillies uniform, I don’t see him ever being allowed to leave the Angels. They will offer him an insane extension and he will be almost obliged to take it. If he gets to FA the Angels will top whatever offer any team makes. They have some young talent that will be percolating to the majors about that time frame and should be able to pay Trout whatever it takes to keep him. Again, I know Philly and Trout seems like a perfect match but realistically I don’t see it happening. I so hope I’m wrong…
MOreno gave an old, aging man $254MIllion. Surely, MIke Trout is worth twice that much? Comments?
He will give him the money. The Angels have two years to structure their payroll and the young guys won’t be making too much. I don’t think Trout will hardball them either. As a Phillie fan I hope I’m wrong, but I see him playing his career out with the Angels.
I can definitely see 10/$400M.
I think 10/400 million is fair and 70 millionover harper and 100 million over machado and we all know trout wont be 5 tool the entirety of that next contract.
Money isn’t the problem with Trout for the Angels. The problem for the Angels is that they aren’t good & aren’t likely to make the playoffs in the next two seasons because their pitching staff just isn’t good enough. Trout is going to be tired of not making the playoffs. I wouldn’t even discuss an extension with Angels if I was in his shoes. There is no reason to commit the rest of your career to a team that hasn’t succeeded with you in the lineup.
If Scott Boras was his agent, Trout would NOT even consider talking about an extension.
If Mookie walks from the Sox (and it’s not like he’s given any indication that he’s THAT motivated to stay), Trout’s the solution to the Red Sox. Besides, let’s be adults; it’s Boston, and you get to replace a rather quiet African American guy with a gregarious, kid-next-door type white guy. Not saying that it’s a HUGE factor, but being a New Englander, I assure you it’s there.
Oh ya, and Boston has an NFL team too….. And BTW, which big free agent this year signed for geographical preference? It’s mostly about the money, and the Sox have gobs of it. And the flip side of all their expiring contracts is that they don’t have a whole lot (relatively) commited long-term.
Twenty teams will match or beat that offer.
Moreno will do all he can to keep Trout OFF the open Market. IN the OPEN Market, where MOreno can NOT control it….Trout will get MUCH more money.
Listen to trade offers at least.
See what teams might offer you for him
They need to upgrade their roster with some more talent with him or without him.
Angels made a mistake in signing Pujols to his contract.
That $ could have bought you a Kuechel for the rotation this offseason.
They also needed to make a play for anyone else of the other FA SPs.
What about Gary Mathews, Jr, Vernon Wells and JOsh Hamilton. Mr. MOreno fell in love with them too.
Tory Hunter worked out, not many others though as you pointed out. Those signed or traded for were all over 30 and showing that the past was behind them except for the steroid using Matthews Jr. Signing 26 yr old Machado was a no brainer as the team needs a 3rd and would have had an effect on Trouty staying. The team would have increased attendance and won more games. Moreno is a clown, abeit a rich clown, but a clown none the less. The man a lot of money and still won’t spend because he is a clown. So Ward is our hope at 3rd, right. Drafted as a catcher at least one , maybe two rounds to soon and is not a catcher. Ditto with Thaiss who will be at least a bigger impact player than Ward. Trading Alverez makes my head explode. The A ngels do not know how to win. Only Stoneman could make it work.
CC sabathia and Beltre BOTH wanted to play in So Cal, but arte wouldn’t sign them. Can you imagine if they were on this team?
He has a NTC.
Signed Blank check for this guy.
Lol@phillies fans are delusional. It should be the other way around..the rest of the 29 teams are delusional (not just the Angels). The road is already paved gold for trout in Philadelphia. Middleton isn’t just going to give him “stupid” money, but he’s going to offer him stakes in the Phillies organization as well. Trout loves Philly so much that a record breaking deal doesn’t even matter to him. He’s already going to be paid beyond his wildest imagination, for generations to come. He’s not your regular Philly fan, he’s a SUPER fan! Big difference. Plus he wants his family and friends to be able to come to every game. Most importantly he wants to win a World Series, which is something the Angels cannot give him
Bam!
Everyone needs to remember that CA taxes are brutal causing LAA to have to overpay star athletes vs if they sign elsewhere. If he cames to Philly he has cut his personal income tax liability in half at the state and local level…3.3% PA and 4.3% city wage vs 13.3% CA. I may be a tenth off in one of these but you get my point. The reality is the Phils can offer less but with more retained that equals the playing field to a higher AAV. Lastly he is near home and will embrace the chance to play with Bryce for several years in their prime, so i bet they will make “similar” $$’s relative to what they could have and still allow the Phils to keep a strong contending team around them. Thats why this Harper contract is soooo team friendly. It was built to allow them to get Trout in 2 years without having to destroy the rest of team.
Get over yourself Phillies fan. Your team should start developing their own stars so they don’t have to steal them from everyone else. The Angels are the only team that believed in Trout and drafted him. He likes playing out here. When you make that kind of money you don’t worry about the state tax rate. It isn’t that high in California. You can watch your new player Harper and forget about Trout. People in Philly are too pushy and won’t give Trout any privacy in public. He doesn’t want to deal with that mess for years.
Yes it is know it all genius!…13.3% on incomes in excess of 1 million dollars.
tax-brackets.org/californiataxtable
I live in Florida thankfully where I get to keep my hard earned $$’s. But my hometown and loyalties are still with Philly and taxes do matter to high income earners in high tax states as NY, Ca, IL, NJ and so on kill their residents because of their Socialism views on income distribution. Trout will play elsewhere in 2021 “Citizen Bank Park” on it…lol
Ummm, sure. So how do the Yankees, Dodgers and Cubs keep high paid players?
I hate you Phillies fans now more than Yankees fans. You idiots think you deserve Trout just because he’s from New Jersey. Trout won’t want to play there. He knows how bad you fans really are. You’re the most annoying fans now. Trout likes some privacy so he’ll stay with the Angels.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. Playing in Philly stinks. The Angels biggest pitch will be: “Mikey, if you want to be left alone, stay with us. Our three fans will be respectful and leave you alone. They’ll be too busy surfing and buying Disney crap so you’ll be below the radar here. You know that (wink).”
Angels have been top 7 in attendance every year since 2003. Just because the fans don’t act like a bunch of arrogant children, doesn’t mean that there aren’t any. This whole thread as turned into a bunch of loners trying to be funny and get some attention. (Or maybe they’re just from Philly and there’s nothing else to do there?)
By the way, players can’t even be offered part ownership of the team. There’s rules about that. baseballprospectus.com/prospects/article/10316/fut…
If Trout is such a Philly Guy why would he sign that extension when he did with the Halos? Wouldn’t he just wait to be courted by the Phillies before he signed that extension? Again another big mouth Phillies fan .. Speaking before thing. Trout will go everywhere else before picking that cesspool of a city.
Simple: Guaranteed money. He was years away from FA, so to get the extension he had to compromise and give up a couple of FA years.
We are fortunate to be watching a historically great player. If he’s able to sustain this pace (that’s of course an if) he’s an inner circle HOF. I’m not sure I understand the folks freaking out over whether he’s going to be worth $35K when he’s age 38. No, likely he’s not. But you are pricing present greatness (for which he will be underpaid) and amortizing it over the life of the contract. Of all the players for fans to root again getting paid, Trout ought to be about the least likely.
He’s on a 2 year for 66.5 right now. Add the 10/350 and that’s 12 years, $416.5 million. How could anyone refuse that much money for doing something they love?
The Angles ought to offer it and if he declines trade him tomorrow to the Nationals for Robles and Soto.
NOT a chance Trout would get traded. NO WAY.
If he won’t resign, might as well trade him and get some good players with years of control. Angles most likely aren’t making the playoffs this season. Doubt they contend in 2020 either.
I would do it. Then again I”m just some poor schmuck.
Then the Angles could take the $33M they’re paying Trout and sign Keuchel and Kimbrel. Those two along with Robles and Soto and the Angles would suddenly look like a much better all-around team.
He has a NTC.
Didn’t know that. Maybe, he would waive it to play on a contender.
Still think the Angles should offer him something and then talk from there.
Stop. Your ideas are painful.
6 years 300 million
give him 400 million for ten years Harper batted 249 last year and is not a great fielder.I think Machado is a better all around player then Harper is.
wait, harper batted 249 last year? i havent seen anybody on this site say that before.
With 34 home runs and 100 runs batted in.
5th in baseball in times on base
Great point! If a .249 power hitter is worth what he got., then what is a .300 plus power hitter, superb, speedy 5 tool Player worth? I am asking for opinions.
Batting average doesn’t mean much, but Trout is a good center-fielder (One very interesting thing about Trout is that whenever he has an off-year in a category, he comes to Spring determined to fix it, and his defense was one of those things last year. He does understand stats and learns from them). Harper had a bad defensive year; some of that was because he played 40 games in center, some of that might be because the Nats apparently told him to take it easy out there so he wouldn’t get hurt. Who knows. Trout’s only real weakness as a player is his throwing arm; that’s probably the only thing Harper has on him, honestly, besides age. Harper has a cannon; Trout is accurate but doesn’t have that kind of arm.
Trout steals bases but Harper’s baserunning grades out pretty well, too – he just doesn’t steal a lot of bases. I think a Trout extension starts at 10/400+ but he’s worth more than that. He’s the 7th-best center-fielder of all time already, and he’s 27. By the end of this season. he should probably pass Griffey and Dimaggio, and there’s every reason to think Trout is better than Cobb or Speaker. Which means that Mike Trout, at age 28, will already be a top-5 center-fielder of all time.
The current top-10 list, using Jay Jaffe’s JAWS metric, which combines overall value and peak, is: Mays, Cobb, Speaker, Mantle, Griffey, Dimaggio, Trout, Snider, Beltran, Lofton.
IF,,,AND, i SAY if…miKE tROUT’S AGEnt is SMART…he would make a simple statement. He ought to say, “Mike has a deal. He will honor it. After the 2020 Season, we will sit down and look at our options” THank you.
He’s coming to Philly to play with Harper and Hoskins.
as if trout would ever suffer harper’s antics!
Could you imagine a line up with Trout, Harper, Hoskins and Realmuto? Right around the time Alec Bohm comes up as well…could be one of the best lineups in Major League history!
i’ve been an Angels fan since year one in 1961
i live 145 miles from Angels’ Stadium.
i attend games.
i go to playoff games.
i went to all four World Series games in 2002.
i’ve never seen a ballplayer and gentleman as fine as Mike Trout. i follow him every game.
if he leaves the Angels i’ll still be an Angels’ fan.
i will not see them play unless Mike Trout is in the lineup for the opposing team.
if he goes to the NL, i’ll attend dodgers’ games if Mike is in the lineup.
Mike Trout has been a complete class act. he’s honored his contract and is as dedicated as any player has ever been.
he is honorable.
where Mike goes do will my allegiance go too.
DITTO
Dude I felt this way about Griffey Jr when he came to the Reds. Junior was already a HOFer, not yet 30 (??), had already put up like 60-70 WAR, and then he just fell apart. Needed Kentucky Chrome and WD-40 the entire time. Playing CF hurts. Signing Mike Trout to a 10/$400 million deal will ruin a team for 6 years.
Mike Trout > Ken Griffey, Sr.
Nope.
Only a big market team will be able to afford him. Since he wants to win a championship, he’ll wind up as either a Dodger or a Yankee.
And Philly isn’t a big market? Not sure your facts are all that correct. Yes their will be plenty of interest from them but Philly is home to Trout and he will want things on his terms not the national NY/LA media biases.
The funniest thing I keep seeing posted is “Arte won’t let him get away” Guess What? It’s not up to Arte, it’s up to Mike.
Very true. Today, during Harper’s Phillies intro, he mentioned Trout in a very direct way, without saying his name. Trout and Harper have kept touch since their first year in the league. Harper leaned on Trout to learn about Philly. I gotta tell ya, I was confident before that Mike Trout would
Be playing for his Phillies in 2 years, but now, it is essentially a lock. I believe you can get the sense that the players (Trout,Harper) are planning there FA together, much like the NBA players do.
For the Nats fans, if it helps, Harper was a class act talking about the Nats. Said he never wanted to leave Washington. Money wasn’t on the table from Lerner, he spent it already. From afar, it looked like a good 7 years for the Nats. Should’ve Not shutdown Strasburg that one year. Anyways, good luck to all the NL east teams, will be an awesome year
You’re going to be so bummed when Trout signs his extension.
Are they trying to say they can’t afford him?
moreno told Torii Hunter he couldn’t afford him…so Torii left, and they had the money to sign Josh Hamilton!!
If Trout wants to win, then he is good as gone.
I would love to see the Rays be relocated to las Vegas then trout goes there. Unfortunately he won’t be a free agent when that happens. I think the rays come to Las Vegas and the Marlins go to Montreal
Could go to San Antonio, TX as well, major market with potential for Texas rivalrys with Dallas and Houston. Def plenty big
And Philly isn’t a big market? Not sure your facts are all that correct. Yes their will be plenty of interest from them but Philly is home to Trout and he will want things on his terms not the national NY/LA media biased terms.
Philly isn’t home to Trout. New Jersey is. And the Angels are more home to him than the Phillies are. If he signed with the Phillies he’d never be left alone there. People there are too pushy and mess with his private life. All the photos of him at Eagles games he looks like he’s mad people won’t leave him alone.
It’s not $350 million. The deal is ten years and $400 million. If they only offer $350 million I doubt Trout would go for it but offer $400 million and there’s no way he doesn’t take it. Arte Moreno better not be that cheap.
10/350 is a very cute gesture but….um….no. Unless Trout just absolutely loves LA, which I don’t know that he does, he’s going to be the first 400 million dollar player. I do think Moreno will go there, though. Some of the money can be deferred until Pujols’ contract is done. For all his faults, Moreno does seem willing to spend.
After watching the BH and MM saga unfold, I’d say 350@10 is not even competitive. I I think it is more likely he gets 450-475/10 front loaded. Or at least a 45-47.5mil AAV. I know Middleton will offer it.
20/$700mil
When you take into account it’s 10/350 PLUS the remaining 2/66.5 that’s 12 years $416.5m total.
Pay it to the players. They’re the ones you’re paying to watch. No one wants to see Jerry Reinsdorf in his box, smoking cigars. The owners are making money hand over fist. Sure, it’s an absurd amount of money. Should it go to a talent like Trout, or a dinosaur? Owners aren’t hurting. Neither the players in the MLB. Nonetheless the players are the people “earning” it.
Has to be north of $500 for 10 or not a chance.
You guys or girls…all forget that when you are talking about 300-500 million dollars…that’s more than enough money for your life and your offspring. Don’t know him personally…but, he seems like a guy that wants and deserves to win a championship. And I think he would take less to be on a great team. Just my opinion. He is a soft spoken guy. But, you know he wants a ring
Manny & Bryce ensure that won’t be enough.
If Trout makes it to FA, “The Empire Strikes Back” will be redefined
Artie is another owner who will pay “stupid money.” But if Trout knows what’s best for him, he will go to an organization that is committed to win and not change their name every few years and have a ballpark situation pending whether he signs or not. I am not saying the Yankees… but certainly not the Angels. And this is coming from an Angel fan.
Artie does spend stupid money, but then he has the awful history of leaving his team one piece short. And much like the Giants, they don’t seem to know when to throw in the towel and rebuild. They instead try to hang around in this middle ground hoping things will get better (hint: under this CBA, they never will). “If only MadBum and Posey could stay healthy, we could compete for a wild card.” The Angels don’t even have that.
They shouldn’t be thinking about an extension for Trout. They should be thinking about what a Trout deal could do for their farm system and how quickly they could field a competitive team if they moved him. They aren’t getting past Houston, and probably not even past Oakland. Rangers are rebuilding and could come together soon.
The Angels are the only team in that division with no apparent game plan. I have issued the same words of warning about my Red Sox and Mookie Betts. Give it time. Lets see what direction the league is moving in with the new CBA. Are we moving toward 5 years of team control instead of 6? Are we refining the rules to prevent teams from keeping guys down an extra season? There’s a lot of big questions that will impact whether free agency or building through the farm is the better avenue to long-term success. I think making those decisions now would be very short-sighted.
Free agents are free agents. You have to pull the trigger. Extensions, especially this far in advance, you have some time when you’re talking about 10+ year deals.
I agree that both sides shouldn’t rush into anything. But everyone please stop saying to trade him. He has a NTC. I realize this doesn’t make it impossible, but it makes it extremely difficult.
It does give the team less leverage in discussions. But engaging with a winning team, given Trout’s desire to win as mentioned by Connor above, its hard to imagine he wouldn’t waive his NTC for 1 year. The last 2 or 3 seasons, I’ve been in agreement. His NTC would be an obstacle if he wanted to be on the West Coast but the East Coast teams were most likely to be interested (or something along those lines). However, given his NJ origins, its hard to imagine he’d be upset about coming back out east. The Dodgers are right up the way. Even San Fran would probably have a running chance if they had anything to give.
Yankees and Boston wouldn’t be likely to get involved, nor does Boston have anything worthy of a Trout trade short of maybe moving Devers and a whole lot more and that doesn’t make them better as a team.
But I think Houston could be interested in talking. Maybe even Washington, given they just lost Harper to division rival. Again, I’m not even going to begin to talk what pieces it would take to get it done because this is not going to happen. But it should be a much bigger consideration then it is in my opinion. But as someone who only sees 20-30 Angels games a season, all on MLBtv, my evaluation is not from someone who sees them every day.
Dare I even say the Phillies put together a package as Trout grew up a fan of the Phils if I remember correctly? Hard to see him rejecting playing alongside Harper for his childhood team.
San Diego has the pieces to pull of a shocker as well and really take the division by storm adding $55 million or so in payroll for 2 of the 5 or 10 best players in the world (quite a bargain).
Sounds like you REALLY and truly KNOW artie. And, yeah, ARTIE is how he always spelled his name. http://www.artemoreno.net
The Tigers should do a 12 year $400M deal with Nicholas Castellanos. That would guarantee many WS rings for many years to come.
When Trout is set to become a free agent, the angels payroll of committed money is around 55 million when I last saw, so maybe they are waiting to spend big again,
Prediction: Trout chooses free agency and signs with the Dodgers.
L9lololol please think about offering him that!
To be 27 years old and already called “one of the greatest players in history” seems like someone is jumping to conclusions, but in this case they are not. He’s got about 240 homers and 650 RBI with nearly 800 runs scored already. His career OPS is almost 1.000 (.990). And his OPS is actually still rising.
If he can stay on the field another 10 years, he’s going to put together one of the most impressive Hall of Fame resumes ever… At the rate he wins MVPs as well? The guy finished lower then 2nd one time and that’s only because he was hurt for a good chunk of the year. Still put up 33 homers and a 1.071 OPS and came in 4th in 114 games played. Who does that?
Can’t wait for this guy to get the heck out of Los Angeles and get himself on a winning ballclub. There’s no way he takes an Angels extension for less than $400 million and I think even then, there’s a few teams that would be in at that number with a better chance to win.
Trout is already the 7th-best center fielder of all-time, according to some exhaustive metrics, and he’s going to leapfrog the two guys immediately ahead of him (Griffey and Dimaggio) this year, and two of the guys ahead of him (Cobb and Speaker) played in the segregation era and there’s every reason to think Trout is better than them. So basically, at age 28, Trout is going to be the best center fielder in the history of baseball not named Willy Mays or Mickey Mantle. That’s pretty damn impressive. I don’t see him ever besting Mays but I do think by the end of his career he’ll have surpassed Mantle.
Oops; Willie, not Willy.
If MIke Trout is smart he will wait until 2020 and test the market. The Market will decide his worth.
If the Angels want to sign Trout to an extension, they better do it fast and with enough “stupid” money. As he gets closer to Free Agency he will be more reluctant to sign anything and almost every single team in baseball will at least “check in” on him. $365 mil for 10 years sounds about right for this year (and it will only go up unless he gets hurt or does something to diminish his value).
He’s been worth 500 million dollars? Proof positive Major League execs are smarter than the people who work at Fangraphs.
All Wins are not created equal. Last year most teams were so far out of it that wins meant nothing. Five wins would have meant the difference for two teams last year.
Anyone trying to figure out a players values based on a one size fits all formula is a moron.
This is a good point Mac. If a team doesn’t feel like they have a realistic chance to win a championship, they start shutting down veterans with nagging injuries and fatigue, trading pieces for prospects, and start bringing up prospects from the minors to better assess their talent. You can make the arguement that teams would have won more games if they kept on “going for it.”
The Mariners let ARod walk and responded with the best single season in mlb history. Angels should enjoy their years, and then use the dollars to improve everywhere needed. Three solid players at 15-20mm, added to what they have could put them to more W’s. A winning team puts more butts in the seats than a superstar.
That 2001 Seattle team had many players that had career years though. They haven’t recovered from the 01 Alcs since
Fake News…Angels wouldn’t reveal any type of proposed deal with Trout…this is East Coast media getting things fired up in hopes it sways Trout to play for an East Coast team…he WILL sign and extension by seasons end I believe but numbers will be much different
Agreed. NO WAY does moreno allow Mike Trout to get away. NO CHANCE.
That’s correct. Eppler runs a tighter shop than Mueller. Unless the rumor came from the office of Trout’s agent—also unlikely—this story has pegged the BS meter.
in the LAA Organization, NOT ONE MOLECULE moves without the permission and knowledge of Mr. Moreno. From the color of the carpets to car parking assignments, to the water used in the water cooler…Arte calls all the shots.
“allow ”
Allow? Really? The decision is Trouts not Moreno’s.
Mike Trout is the best player in baseball, but if you compare him to Mookie Betts, not by much(by WAR). Over 8 total seasons Trout has put up 64 WAR, averaging 8 per season. Betts has put up 35 WAR over 5 total seasons averaging 7 WAR. So when Betts enters free agency in 2 years at 28 years old, I could see him getting a larger contract and the team getting more value out if it than Trout at 30.
Wrong way to calculate.
Trout has put up 9.02 rWAR and 9.0 fWAR per 650 PA.
Betts has put up 7.82 rWAR and 6.78 fWAR per 650 PA.
Both are great players. Trout has been better.
Slightly off topic, but it kills me that MLB is ignoring the marketing goldmine that Trout, Betts, etc. represent.
Think about it. Much of the news about NBA and NFL players involves an arrest, for one thing or another.
In MLB. you have the All-American Boy (Trout); a quiet but dignified guy (Betts), a young guy who lights up every room he’s in (Lindor), and an immigrant whose a complete piece of work (Ohtani). They even cross all kinds of racial spectra.
Instead of whining about salaries, we should appreciate who these guys are. Besides their capabilities (all of which are HUGE), they all represent what’s good about sports.
Plenty of NFL players are making positive contributions to their communities, but don’t let facts get in the way of your “NFL players only get arrested” narrative.
Also, I don’t think it’s a compliment to Ohtani to call him a “piece of work.” Maybe you meant something else, but that was a bizarre choice of words.
Trade the man. Couldn’t be better for both sides.
If he signs an extension with the new team, Angels deserve it. If he doesn’t, they can go in for him as a FA to play with the abundance of talent they’d get in return.
Trout’s value as a trade piece would be impossible to calculate, in my view.
Agreed, but it also has some quirks if it were to ever materialize. Think Halladay when he went to Philly. Doc only waived his NTC because it was Philly and that gave the Phillies power to deny certain players be included. Toronto got a nice haul and some good players, but not what they might have gotten if there was competitive offers. Lets use that as a basis for example. Trout says he will only waive for Philly. Philly would have the power to keep Nola and Hoskins out of the discussion. Probably cost them an extra player. Say 1 of the young outfielders (williams?) An pitcher (efflin?) Plus probably Franco. Then add in 2 AA and 2 A pieces…. not bad to help rebuild
Trout won’t be traded, of course, but if he were traded to Philly there’s no way Nola wouldn’t be included.
Trout will never play with Bryce Harper!! Trout either stays for life with Angels or denies the extension and is traded by 2020 to the Yankees
No, I don’t think they’re getting Trout for Nick Williams and Eflin and Maikel Franco; I think it would take the best five young players in the Phillies system, and that would probably include Nola. But again, I don’t think he’s being traded.
Any talk of Trout being traded is absurd. Its an impossibility.
Consider? How about offer and pray he signs. Trout is the face and will be after his playing days are over. We are talking about one of the best to ever play the game
A key question no one is asking regarding Trout staying with the Angels – how does he like the commute since the Angels moved to Los Angeles?
Yeah that whole deal is a little silly. Although many teams in sports play outside the city limits its different because there is another team there and you’re an established franchise who just decides to add Los Angeles to your name although you’re playing in Anaheim(not a bad city). I like the California Angels better. Gives you statewide appeal for those who don’t live really close to any MLB franchise cities.
I always prefered Anaheim Angeles. Everyone knows of Anaheim. The Inglewood Ams of Los Angeles? Nah, won’t work. The Inglewood Chargers of Los Angeles, I don’t think so either. Atre Moreno is a funny guy, and he is not even trying.
http://www.artemoreno.net Mr. Moreno is a funny guy who NEVER tells the truth.
The Trout to Pujols comparisons are clumsy, but to say Pujols was never a good athlete is a bit revisionist. Pujols was always a respected fielder in St Louis (saved over 6 runs per season according to Fangraphs and was a Gold Glove winner), and he even had 39 stolen bases while getting caught just 9 times in the 3 years leading up to LAA signing him. All of this comes with the caveat that he was a good athlete FOR A 1B, but still, let’s not act like he was Prince Fielder.
Agreed. Pujols was a Great Player, a legend in St. Louis, a cinch for the Hall of Fame. While watching the 2011 World Series, Arte Moreno became smitten with Albert. He HAD to have HIM playing on his team, so he offered him the $254Million. for 20 years. Remember, he plays for 10 years, and then has a personal services contract with Mr. Moreno for 10 years. Moreno told Mr. Pujols, “I want you to be my partner”.
What a deal!
Pujols was a very good first baseman; his issues have been because of injuries to both his heels, along with the normal aging curve. He’s going to go to the Hall on the first ballot (he might even be unanimous) and his career shouldn’t be characterized by his late-career uselessness.
If he’s to hit homers into his 40’s he would pass Barry Bonds as a legit all time homerun leader.
It’d be a win-win for both Trout and the Angels. Maybe add a couple option years and call it a day.
10 year 430 million and he stays
Trout should sign a deal now. Ask for 375 mil for ten years with 200 million guaranteed. He could blow a knee or a shoulder at any point. why risk it.
This isn’t the NFL. If he asks for and signs at 10/375 it’s all guaranteed unless some of the final seasons are club options. If that were the case it wouldn’t be described as 10/375.
At only $200m guaranteed over 10 years he would be taking a big pay cut as he is making $34m+ this year and next.
Quit considering and start offering!
The Angels will have to seriously overpay to keep Trout. The Phillies have locked in their sights on him and he wants to play there, in the same town as his buddy, Carson Wentz.
Is there a number? That is the question. What is overpaid???
Dont do it Trout! Swim over to a contender.