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Braves Acquire Shane Greene

By Connor Byrne | July 31, 2019 at 4:20pm CDT

The Braves have acquired right-handed closer Shane Greene from the Tigers for left-hander Joey Wentz and outfielder Travis Demeritte, per an announcement from Atlanta.

Greene has posted excellent results this year, but as a reliever with waning control on a rebuilding team, he has looked like an obvious trade candidate throughout the campaign. The 30-year-old’s on a $4MM salary this season and comes with arbitration eligibility for another winter.

Through 38 innings in 2019, Greene has pitched to a measly 1.18 ERA, but that surely won’t hold. His 3.70 FIP, 3.80 xFIP and 3.45 SIERA are all a good distance away, while there’s also a sizable gap between the weighted on-base average Greene has allowed (.221) and his xwOBA (.282). But that’s not to say Greene can’t be a significant asset going forward. He still owns an excellent 10.18 K/9 against 2.84 BB/9, an easily above-average 53.8 percent groundball rate and a solid 14.3 percent infield fly rate.

Greene, who has 22 saves on 25 attempts this season, may take over as the Braves’ closer immediately. Luke Jackson has been serving in the role, though he has blown seven saves on 24 tries. Plus, while Jackson has done good work for most of the year, he has endured an awful stretch in which he has yielded seven earned runs in six appearances dating back to July 12. With Jackson struggling and the NL East-leading Braves lacking an abundance of dependable relievers aside from him, they’ve now reeled in Greene, former Rangers righty Chris Martin and ex-Giants righty Mark Melancon since Tuesday evening.

Wentz, 21, joined the Braves as a sixth-round pick in 2016. He entered the season as the Braves’ 11th-ranked prospect, according to FanGraphs’ Kiley McDaniel and Eric Longenhagen, who noted at the time injuries and inconsistency have held Wentz back. He has gotten his first taste of Double-A action this season and put up a 4.72 ERA/4.36 FIP with 8.74 K/9 and 3.93 BB/9 over 103 innings.

The 24-year-old Demeritte did not rank among FanGraphs’ top Braves prospects entering the season, but they noted then he possesses “easy plus power and is passable at multiple positions defensively.” Demeritte has since slashed an outstanding .286/.357/.558 with 20 home runs in 399 plate appearances in his Triple-A debut. A first-round pick (No. 30) of the Rangers in 2013, Demeritte became a Brave via trade in 2016. He’s now on the move again.

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic first reported a trade was close. Buster Olney of ESPN reported the Braves had acquired Greene. Jon Morosi of MLB.com tweeted Wentz’s involvement. Photo courtesy of USA Today Sports Images.

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Comments

  1. todd76

    4 years ago

    Great… There goes the farm…

    Reply
    • francys08

      4 years ago

      I just want to know what prospects the Tigers are getting in this deal.

      Reply
      • John Kappel

        4 years ago

        Bryce Wilson

        Reply
        • KingRyan227

          4 years ago

          I’m guessing Pache as the headliner and possibly Touki

        • RootedInOakland

          4 years ago

          Prolly Acuna and Soroka too if ur tryna acquire a 22 for 25 saves type of reliever

        • oldleftylong

          4 years ago

          Tigers fans hope not.

        • DTD

          4 years ago

          Not a chance

        • notyourfriend

          4 years ago

          Its Shane Greene, not Felipe Vasquez

    • PhilsPhan

      4 years ago

      Lol every other trade post Braves fans are complaining “why didn’t we do that?? We have a ton of prospects!” but then throw their hands up and exclaim “there goes the farm!” when a trade happens.

      Reply
      • jkurk_22

        4 years ago

        Well to be fair, it would be easier to accept if we were getting premier players. But we’ve been giving up good prospects for ehh players.

        Reply
      • layercake

        4 years ago

        To be fair Allard was excessive

        Reply
        • SuperSinker

          4 years ago

          Allard is trash

        • mgraub00

          4 years ago

          Gosh you all are idiots.

        • layercake

          4 years ago

          Gee willickers

      • losbravos

        4 years ago

        No just a handful this is a win as long as if we dont trade pache, anderson, or shae langeleliers. Im fine with a straight up greene for waters deal. Dont get me wrong waters is a stud i played against him during travel ball but pache is basically mlb ready he needs a few more years.

        Reply
        • jbigz12

          4 years ago

          Waters for Greene would be a massive win for Detroit. If you gave that up as a Braves fan you should be angry.

        • losbravos

          4 years ago

          Id prefer a deal with wright and someone else instead but lets see if they will take that

        • KnicksFanCavsFan

          4 years ago

          How is Pache mlb ready if he still needs a few more years? Not trying to be funny.

        • losbravos

          4 years ago

          Pache will be on the braves roster opening day or a month or two in the next season

        • Drew4

          4 years ago

          Pache soon

      • Backatit

        4 years ago

        Doesnt happen often because Braves don’t make many deals. Sounds like just trolling.

        Reply
      • bravesfan

        4 years ago

        It’s because we have top lvl prospects and we trade them away for garbage. At least in Allards case we did

        Reply
        • SuperSinker

          4 years ago

          Allard is garbage

        • bravesfan

          4 years ago

          But he’s not. He was putting up stupid numbers until this year. He’s only 21 and everyone has 1 bad year. He’s a 1st rounder, multi year top 100 prospect. He’s worth more than Martin. I’m sorry, but he is. Martins solid this year, but not Allard worthy. Allard should have at worst been packaged with someone for an elite player

        • jbigz12

          4 years ago

          Allard wasn’t going to get packaged for an elite player. He profiles as a backend starter now. That doesn’t do anything for an elite player. He was a really good return for Texas for taking a gamble on a former top prospect but that’s it. He’s a #4 starter at his ceiling at this point. Thought you might get a better reliever for him but you didn’t
          . “Elite” anything and Allard were never going together though.

      • SalaryCapMyth

        4 years ago

        @PhilsPan. I know right? I mean its like there’s more than one of us, all with differing opinions. Crazy!!!

        Reply
    • losbravos

      4 years ago

      Wentz and demeritte. That is def not giving up the farm. Feel pretty soild about it

      Reply
    • bravesfan88

      4 years ago

      I’m hearing it is just Travis Demeritte and Wentz

      Reply
    • chippahawk

      4 years ago

      Solid trade, well done AA!

      Reply
      • KingRyan227

        4 years ago

        So much for not backing down on kieboom and end up gettin 0 top 100 prospects

        Reply
        • myaccount

          4 years ago

          Almost every organization sees the top 100 prospects differently. Baseball America and MLB.com are not gospel when it comes to prospect rankings. Obviously Detroit felt good enough about Wentz as a headliner or the duo as a whole to complete the deal.

  2. H3ads40T73

    4 years ago

    As a tigers fan, Yes!!!!

    Reply
  3. The Einheri

    4 years ago

    Curious to see how much they paid.

    Reply
  4. AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs

    4 years ago

    If this does not include Boyd, this team will be a first round exit again.

    Reply
    • noraj9

      4 years ago

      I hope they exist in the first round at least.

      Reply
      • chound

        4 years ago

        Their fans aren’t going to exist if they blow this game against the Nats!

        Reply
      • AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs

        4 years ago

        As this point, why would any Braves fan be content with another division title if it means they get embarrassed in the first round again? Most other teams? Sure good enough. Braves, no!

        Reply
        • nymetsking

          4 years ago

          Slow, this one is.

        • RunDMC

          4 years ago

          Matt Boyd with a lifetime 4.50 FiP who is in the midst of a breakout season in a terrible division with a spacious ballpark in which his team wants a haul for? That Matt Boyd? He’s the difference maker in the postseason?

          Sure, Ryu/Kershaw/Buehler vs. Boyd. Yes, that gives me ease. Let’s go with that. Tell Pache/Waters, Wright/Anderson & others to buy Pistons/Lions/Wings swag and start to like Home Improvement.

        • Chives

          4 years ago

          Everybody likes Home Improvement though…classic

    • chubbbz28

      4 years ago

      False

      Reply
    • braves25

      4 years ago

      Boyd would not improve the rotation. He is not better then Soroka, Keuchel, Teheran, or Fried. He is equal to Fried but not better

      Reply
      • thomps07

        4 years ago

        Nice bias fan glasses you have there!

        Reply
        • braves25

          4 years ago

          I’m not actually being biased! I said EVERY team should stay away from Boyd! He is not worth near the package the Tigers are asking for. He had 2 good months! Last year and the other 2 months this year have proved he is a solid #4…not a TOR like some people seem to think!

          Boyd will remain with the Tigers, just as Fulmer did…and in a year or 2 his trade value will probably be obsolete as well.

      • AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs

        4 years ago

        Boyd has far more upside than all those guys including Soroka and it is not even close.

        Reply
        • chubbbz28

          4 years ago

          If you think Boyd has “far more upside” than soroka, then you don’t know baseball or you don’t watch soroka pitch

        • AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs

          4 years ago

          Trust me, I’m as much of a fan of Soroka as the next guy. However, the lack of ability to be a consistent strikeout pitcher might hurt him in a long run. Now, strikeout pitchers can be as vulnerable, but having swing and miss stuff will have more impact long term than relying on contact to get outs.

          Regardless who is better, Soroka, Boyd 1-2 is far superior to all the other garbage they have in the rotation long term.

        • braves25

          4 years ago

          Boyd may have swing and miss stuff…but when they dont miss he gives up dingers! Boyd is a guy that will strikeout 10 guys but give up 4 runs in 6 innings because he gave up 2 2-run bombs…NO THANKS

        • Judd_Skinner

          4 years ago

          Trolls are supposed to be clever.

        • AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs

          4 years ago

          The Braves should hope and pray that any of their overrated prospects (Wright, Wilson) can do the same.

          This is also the reason Anderson is the only pitcher i don’t want the Braves to trade. He is the only who has any chance to have impact stuff.

        • braves25

          4 years ago

          @AllOurGods…

          That I can agree with! Anderson has to be off the table. Every other pitcher should be available in the right package. I just dont think Boyd is the guy the Braves should trade for…any team for that matter really…I would have been ok with Wright headlining a trade for Stroman, Bauer, or a guy that can truly anchor the rotation. Boyd has had 2 good months at the major league level…guess who else has had 2 great months at the mlb level? Max Fried

        • trollie fingers

          4 years ago

          Boyd has more upside than our 21 year old Cy Young candidate? That is by far one of the more ignorant things I’ve read on this site.

        • AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs

          4 years ago

          Boyd for me was a fall back plan now that Bumgarner nor Syn were traded. Regardless, I’d take a chance with Boyd over Fried, Teheran, DK and Gausman.

        • mgraub00

          4 years ago

          And we have a winner. As soon as you think Braves fans couldn’t get any more unrealistic.

        • braves25

          4 years ago

          I am glad AA didn’t agree with you as Boyd being the backup plan!

        • RunDMC

          4 years ago

          Congrats for finding someone with a higher career FiP than Teheran and thinking he’s the difference-maker we needed to sell the farm for.

        • You are wrong

          4 years ago

          The Boyd > Soroka post is LITERALLY the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen posted to a site chalked full of horrible, horrible takes.

        • Coach1981

          4 years ago

          Not saying Soroka is Maddox but Maddox wasn’t a strikeout guy either. Some guys are 8/9 strikeout per 9 guys some are 6 per 9 guys and still are successful TOR guys.

      • oldleftylong

        4 years ago

        Uh, ….

        Reply
    • John Kappel

      4 years ago

      Incorrect. The Braves have much bigger needs in the bullpen than the rotation.

      Reply
    • Bc0303

      4 years ago

      Now that was stupid

      Reply
  5. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    please klentak get relief arm. heck, just abduct someone from the opposing dugout.

    Reply
    • AstrosKLC

      4 years ago

      Hell, at this point, get him from the stands if you have to.

      Reply
      • 24TheKid

        4 years ago

        Maybe you can talk Jerry Dipoto into giving you Anthony Bass.

        Reply
  6. braveshomer

    4 years ago

    let’s go AA!

    Reply
  7. Judd_Skinner

    4 years ago

    Anything is better than what we have currently

    Reply
  8. Pacman

    4 years ago

    Hey after blowing another lead today, why not? Donaldson just put them back up…see if they can get through this game…….Difference between 4.5 or 6.5 game lead over Nats,……….

    Reply
    • nymetsking

      4 years ago

      yeah, I saw the scoreboard change late. I figured that might push then towards RP help.

      Reply
  9. acarneglia

    4 years ago

    Good move braves

    Reply
  10. timpa

    4 years ago

    NL East was sleeping and now the Braves/Nats/Phils all going at it for the deadline.

    Reply
  11. kventura1110

    4 years ago

    For who

    Reply
  12. steelerbravenation

    4 years ago

    If the Tigers wouldn’t budge from Kieboom I wonder who is going back for us

    Reply
    • ScottCFA

      4 years ago

      Waters would be the comparable player on the Braves, speaking as a Tigers fan. I would be delighted if it were Greene for Waters straight up. More realistically, and given Tiger GM Al Avila’s trades, I’ll predict it will be PTBNL that will turn out to be Shewmake.

      Reply
      • southi

        4 years ago

        I would rather give up Pache than Waters and either would be a DRASTIC overpay.

        Reply
        • steelerbravenation

          4 years ago

          Neither

      • Backatit

        4 years ago

        No way that will happen.

        Reply
  13. krillin89

    4 years ago

    Yes! The Pen is much better now, even if he regresses some

    Reply
  14. floridapinstripes

    4 years ago

    And you thought braves fans complained when Allard was dealt. This should be interesting

    Reply
    • Judd_Skinner

      4 years ago

      I didn’t complain. Allard’s star has dimmed tremendously and I was never high on him anyway. I’m just upset that we hung on him for so long instead of including him in a deal for a bigger difference maker years ago.

      Reply
      • krillin89

        4 years ago

        Ditto

        Reply
  15. steelerbravenation

    4 years ago

    After watching 9 th inning not suprised
    Hopefully didn’t overpay

    Reply
  16. A-A

    4 years ago

    I’d hope it’s Wentz and like Alex Jackson, but I fear it may be a massive overpay with like Wright or Wilson

    Reply
    • fantasticword-

      4 years ago

      I’m fine with Wilson, tbh.

      Reply
    • steelerbravenation

      4 years ago

      No way he is that stupid is he ????
      Josh Tomlin closing it out what a joke

      Reply
    • krillin89

      4 years ago

      I’m fine with Wilson too

      Reply
  17. RiverKKiller999

    4 years ago

    Send luke Jackson to Detroit as well…

    Reply
  18. pikeypike

    4 years ago

    I’d trade wilson not wright

    Reply
  19. chabby16

    4 years ago

    Tigers fan as well…send Castellanos and Boyd on their way too. Wonder what prospects they got in return

    Reply
  20. smrtbusnisman04

    4 years ago

    Pirates are losing a buyer for Vasquez

    Reply
    • jtkuch

      4 years ago

      More like Dodgers are losing a fallback option from Vazquez

      Reply
  21. lebzet

    4 years ago

    I hope they don’t give up Ian Anderson or Kyle Wright. I’m sure Pache and Waters are safe.

    Reply
    • Bruin1012

      4 years ago

      They were asking for Kieboom from the Nats so who knows and the Tigers want position players.

      Reply
  22. WereAllJustGuestsHere

    4 years ago

    Rangers get Allard for Chris Martin.

    Blue Jays get an older arm in Single-A for Daniel Hudson.

    Good stuff Toronto. Good stuff.

    Reply
    • chound

      4 years ago

      Cause Allard’s 88mph fastball has played really well in the majors.

      Reply
      • Braves Fan 138

        4 years ago

        Lol exactly

        Reply
  23. hook316

    4 years ago

    Tigers want position prospects, not pitchers. Hopefully Waters.

    Reply
    • steelerbravenation

      4 years ago

      Waters is not happening
      Maybe Camargo

      Reply
    • A-A

      4 years ago

      Very Chapman-like in return then

      Reply
  24. TaylorLH

    4 years ago

    If they really gave up one of their top four for Greene over Minor Texas is not gonna be happy.

    Reply
  25. fantasticword-

    4 years ago

    I’ll be shocked if it’s anything more than a Wilson or Wentz

    Reply
    • mark1125

      4 years ago

      Seems like a fair return

      Reply
      • fantasticword-

        4 years ago

        Agreed. Apparently Alex Jackson is part of the package though, according to Bowman

        Reply
        • fantasticword-

          4 years ago

          Guess Bowman was wrong

  26. steelerbravenation

    4 years ago

    Still got 30 mins Yankees in rain delay Greinke done for the day AA get on the phone and get us Greinke !!!!!

    Reply
  27. TJECK109

    4 years ago

    Knowing the Pirates they will now get less than the return for Greene when they deal Vazquez. NH is in panic mode right now

    Reply
  28. lysander

    4 years ago

    Castellanos may also be included – Braves need an OF

    Reply
    • chippahawk

      4 years ago

      Braves need an OF?

      Reply
    • southi

      4 years ago

      No to Castellanos. Duvall has more power and is far better defender.

      Reply
  29. Disco Dave

    4 years ago

    maybe it will be reverse mojo for the smoltz-alexander trade of yore

    Reply
  30. jbigz12

    4 years ago

    I’m getting the inkling that the Tigers did much better than they should’ve here if the Kieboom ask from earlier was true and has remained steady.

    Reply
    • Pacman

      4 years ago

      I don’t think so…….The Nats 2nd best prospect was #80 overall. One could argue that Wilson falls in those ranks. That would be my guess. Nats really only had one more player to offer, which was Kieboom.

      Reply
      • jbigz12

        4 years ago

        If Kieboom is a top 30 prospect and the Tigers had to ask for him because the #80 prospect wasn’t enough. How does that equate to Bryce Wilson is enough? He’s definitely not ranked within the #30-75 prospects on anyone’s list. Personally I think Bryce Wilson would be a steal for Detroit to get for Shane Greene. But I disagree w your logic there.

        Reply
        • jbigz12

          4 years ago

          Yep, Wentz and Demerrite. That’s about right. I wouldn’t have paid any more than that. Good deal for the Braves here. AA didn’t do something extremely stupid.

  31. CrewBrew

    4 years ago

    Thank god now Braves fans can shut up on this site about their search for relief and their cheap GM

    Reply
  32. bobbleheadguru

    4 years ago

    Shane Greene as Tigers closer….

    Was like a gas station for a plug in car.
    There just were not that many save chances.

    Reply
  33. steelerbravenation

    4 years ago

    Possibly Contreras????
    Braves just got John Ryan Murphy for cash
    Could he be to fill Contreras spot ???

    Reply
    • ifonlydetroitcoulddraft

      4 years ago

      Makes sense

      Reply
    • bravesfan

      4 years ago

      No, that’s dumb.

      Reply
  34. jeff74

    4 years ago

    Acuna and Albies

    Reply
    • ScottCFA

      4 years ago

      Thanks, we all needed a laugh!

      Reply
  35. steelerbravenation

    4 years ago

    Still need a SP or another strong bullpen arm

    Reply
  36. Bravescj10

    4 years ago

    total desperation move. AA was watching today’s game and reacted to the blown save.

    Reply
    • Jacked225

      4 years ago

      This was reported as a possibility early yesterday

      Reply
  37. bhambrave

    4 years ago

    The Tigers were staunch on Kieboom because they know the Nats farm is crap, and Kieboom is the only decent prospect. The Braves can offer volume.

    Reply
  38. fantasticword-

    4 years ago

    They just got melancon, too. Now I’m worried

    Reply
  39. sherlock_

    4 years ago

    Now THIS is big.

    Reply
  40. sportznut1000

    4 years ago

    this deadline might come and go it looks like without the yankees, redsox, astros or twins making a move. anyones game i guess

    Reply
  41. ntorsky

    4 years ago

    Wentz’ and Demeritte

    Reply
  42. king beas

    4 years ago

    It’s been to long for nobody to know the return smh

    Reply
  43. bigfoot675

    4 years ago

    Is it possible Avila might have just forgot to ask for something in return for Shane Greene?

    Reply
  44. A-A

    4 years ago

    Fair trade value all around

    Reply
  45. Bruin1012

    4 years ago

    Braves did good at the deadline and the Dodgers held. They aren’t as good as Dodgers but they definitely closed the gap. Who knows would be cool if they knock of the Dodgers because of their late acquisitions and the Dodgers not acquiring what they needed Vasquez.

    Reply
  46. BobSacamano

    4 years ago

    Braves should give us Langeliers just for dumping Castellanos on Chicago

    Reply
  47. BasedBallGuru

    4 years ago

    Travis Demmeritte is very underrated by alot of fans. He had a bad year adjusting to AA and is a very small guy, kinda like Abies but thinner and a couple inches taller, but he could be a really good get for a throw in. Can play 2d,c3rd, and corner outfield. We have 2 great utility IF and he was taking up 40 man spot so he had to go. Has some power and is very athletic on bases and in the field. Just has to keep K’s down.

    Wentz is a flyer. His stuff never developed,and had dead arm issues but hes big, athletic, and knows how to pitch. Could be a #3 or could be a flameout. His velocity changes alot based on the day of the week. Hes got potential though. Great hitter, not that it matters now.

    Reply
    • fantasticword-

      4 years ago

      Wentz is the get here, imo. If I recall the Braves got Demmeritte for next to nothing from Texas when they got him.

      Reply
      • BasedBallGuru

        4 years ago

        Demerritte was the throw in, like I said, but a very good one. His stock was up with people paying attention, The juiced balls really helped his batting approach as a little guy with power. Wentz was going down, but hes still got alot potential. Hes never going to be the ace people thought he had the chance to be though, because his walk issues, combined with his velocity staying in the low 90s isnt going to allow him to be more than a #3 if he puts it all together.

        Wentz is good at everything but great at nothing, with walk issues. Hes big and athletic enough to hit his ceiling still though. Perfect guy for a stacked farm like ours to trade while keeping someone relatively as valuable like Muller, who has a higher ceiling but lower floor.

        Reply
    • southi

      4 years ago

      Hate giving up Wentz, bit understand that is the price of improving the current bullpen. I could definitely see Wentz as a future #3 and his bat is good for a pitcher (which would have definitely been good in Atlanta).

      Reply
  48. SalaryCapMyth

    4 years ago

    Was hoping the Braves wouldnt go after the regression candidate. I guess it depends on the price though. Obviously the Braves werent going to go after Giles with the Blue Jays FO and all their hurt feelings with AA.

    Reply
  49. Pickle_Britches

    4 years ago

    Hahahaha good deal for braves. Told all u tiger fans you not getting premium talent for Greene lol. Wentz ??? LMAO

    Reply
    • BobSacamano

      4 years ago

      Good job man. You rock

      Reply
      • Pickle_Britches

        4 years ago

        I know I do, thanks fella.

        Reply
  50. bravesfan

    4 years ago

    Giving up wentz for Greene really hurts… especially sense he’s a rental and I love wentz…. but… I get it. But it hurts… but I get it….. but did I say it hurts?

    Reply
    • fantasticword-

      4 years ago

      I liked Wentz, too. I guess you have to give up something, though.

      Reply
    • krillin89

      4 years ago

      Greene still has another year of control, right?

      Reply
      • BobSacamano

        4 years ago

        Correct. Good luck Braves! Loved Shane Greene, can’t wait to see him in October

        Reply
        • Brentg55

          4 years ago

          I think both guys the tigers are getting will do well for them TD was just a casualty of too many prospects

      • NL_East_Rivalry

        4 years ago

        Yes

        Reply
      • chound

        4 years ago

        yes

        Reply
    • lysander

      4 years ago

      What exactly do you love about Wentz? His blazing 90 mph FB or his horrible BB/K ratio?

      Reply
    • chippahawk

      4 years ago

      this hurts donut won’t last long, nothing like the big tex rental trade.. We still have our big 3-4 guys on the farm and the pen is two folds better. Give AA a solid B+ grade for the trade deadline.
      Grienke would have been amazing but we’d be sitting here without Anderson and waters in a trade or Wilson and pache IMHO.
      October will tell but the future is awful bright with Anderson and our future Outfield still on its way.
      Keep doing what you’re doing Duvall! You’ve picked up where Riley left off before his struggles and proved to be the savior in this latest absolutely HUGE series man.. “Cap tip”

      Reply
  51. tiger9

    4 years ago

    A position player….any position player Avila you moron. A middling lefty???? The Tigers have pitchers coming by the boatload…but no….Avila gets another pitcher….idiot

    Reply
    • ScottCFA

      4 years ago

      Tigers can always trade from their wealth of pitching prospects for anything else they need.

      Reply
      • jbigz12

        4 years ago

        Tigers needs: Every offensive position on the Baseball field.

        Reply
  52. SoCalBrave

    4 years ago

    For all the Tigers fans that aren’t familiar with the Braves’ farm system. Wentz’s ceiling is a #1 TOR pitcher and his floor is a solid #3 starter. Good acquisition by the Tigers.

    Reply
    • A-A

      4 years ago

      Who has said he has a #1 ceiling?

      I like him as a prospect and hope he has a successful career in Detroit, but he has a 91 mph fastball.

      Reply
      • BasedBallGuru

        4 years ago

        Yeah hes wrong, going off old information, as Braves fan WhO kNoW tHe SyStEm tend to do.

        He has walk issues at max effort over 91-92. But he still has alot going for him.

        Reply
    • BasedBallGuru

      4 years ago

      Yeah, no.
      Maybe when he was drafted. His walk issues and low velocity preclude him from being a TOR anymore. Good floor though.

      Reply
    • lysander

      4 years ago

      wentz is NOT a future #1. he’s pitch to contact guy who would settle in at #4 or #5. His BB/K ratio is horrible.

      Reply
    • Bruin1012

      4 years ago

      According to BA Wentz ceiling is as a mid-rotation starter not a number 1.

      Reply
    • godsman2887

      4 years ago

      Like others have mentioned, ceiling of a mid rotation starter.

      Reply
  53. purplesteve6

    4 years ago

    Greene for Wentz, straight up? Are we sure that’s it? If so, I’m a happy Braves fan.

    Reply
    • jbigz12

      4 years ago

      It shouldn’t surprise Braves fans. GM’s have far too much information to pay for bottom line results that don’t appear sustainable. Greene is a surefire upgrade for the Braves but he is not an elite closer. Which is fine for Atlanta because they had an awful closer. A slightly above average one is a huge upgrade

      Reply
      • SalaryCapMyth

        4 years ago

        Yep. Greene is a good addition but he also won’t keep up this production. Im really glad AA didnt pay like he is a top closer.

        Reply
  54. krillin89

    4 years ago

    Dude, stoked that it’s only Wentz. Any tiger fans wanna buy my Wentz prospect auto card now? Lol jk

    Reply
    • BobSacamano

      4 years ago

      Wow, you’re really krillin it.

      Reply
      • MasterShake

        4 years ago

        Lol

        Reply
  55. SalaryCapMyth

    4 years ago

    I can live with this trade. Not the closer I was hoping for but not a prospect I was concerned to lose either.

    Reply
  56. lannonrich

    4 years ago

    Great another pitcher when we need position players. I just don’t understand the approach the tigers are taking with the rebuild.

    Reply
    • SalaryCapMyth

      4 years ago

      They are rebuilding on pitching. Every year teams always need more pitching. They will trade arms for bats to fill the spots they still have open.

      Reply
    • chabby16

      4 years ago

      I don’t think the Tigers front office know what their doing

      Reply
      • tigersfan1320

        4 years ago

        That’s probably the best they could do. We still have plenty of hitting prospects in the minors with Greene, paredes, Castro. Hopefully Stewart will have a bounce back second year next year too, and Jake Rogers seems like he could be a decent hitter which is all you ask for from a guy who’s as good of a defender as he is

        Reply
      • SalaryCapMyth

        4 years ago

        Pitching is a route to rebuild. The Braves rebuilt through pitching and they STILL need pitching. The Cubs did it with bats and they are still struggling to fill the rotation with world series calibre starters.

        Reply
    • BobSacamano

      4 years ago

      IMO Pitching trades higher than position. Not that it matters now..just saying. We could use another young southpaw.

      Reply
  57. david722

    4 years ago

    Great job Friedman. No point in winning division when your pen will crap out in the playoffs. Same old same old.

    Reply
  58. camdenyards46

    4 years ago

    Travis demeritte

    Reply
  59. chabby16

    4 years ago

    FIRE AVILA NOW!!!! BRINGS IN THREE MIDDLING PITCHERS FOR THEIR TWO GUYS. Maybe we can teach some of these pitchers to hit since we have no one else in the minors that can

    Reply
    • BobSacamano

      4 years ago

      We should’ve never extended him. But this trade for Greene bean doesn’t look to bad to me honestly.

      Reply
    • tigersfan1320

      4 years ago

      Lol chill, Riley Greene can rake, paredes and Castro are both hitting pretty well, and we’ll probably have the top pick in the draft too. Castellanos did not have much value and we got a a pretty good pitching prospect from the braves for Greene which is about what his value was. You can never have too many pitching prospects

      Reply
      • ifonlydetroitcoulddraft

        4 years ago

        Castro is a mess defensively. He won’t be the SS of the future if he can’t field routine ground balls

        Reply
        • tigersfan1320

          4 years ago

          But he’s hitting well so he’ll probably move to 2nd base or even maybe outfield

        • ifonlydetroitcoulddraft

          4 years ago

          True. CF or 2B

    • mark1125

      4 years ago

      The trade with the Braves was fair. Not what I was after (Position player) but Wentz has upside while Demeritte was a nice “toss in”. Greene was having a great season but numbers point toward regression.

      Castallanos had virtually zero trade value. Getting a couple projects for a butcher in the field rental.

      Granted…..I don’t LOVE what the Tigers did but it was fair return for what they were giving.

      Reply
      • ifonlydetroitcoulddraft

        4 years ago

        Agreed. Well said

        Reply
  60. dhupads

    4 years ago

    In addition to Greene, Braves have acquired Melancon, JR Murphy and Brien Taylor.

    Reply
  61. birdsfan415

    4 years ago

    Travis demeritte also to the Tigers

    Reply
  62. El Duderino

    4 years ago

    Maybe tag this as “Tigers” because as of right now, when you filter by team, the top story is Detroit insisting on Kieboom. Kind of worthless at this point…

    Reply
    • BobSacamano

      4 years ago

      This isn’t Vietnam dude, this is MLBTR..there are rules.

      Reply
  63. doxiedevil

    4 years ago

    Lot of upside on 21 year old Wentz but Braves needed a closer badly, maybe they resign Greene next season also.

    Reply
    • Bruin1012

      4 years ago

      He is controlled for next season.

      Reply
  64. UGA_Steve

    4 years ago

    Wentz for Greene isn’t bad for the Braves. If he is included in the deal, Demeritte is just a throw in because he will be Rule 5 loss this offseason anyway. He is not good enough to 40-man him, but good enough for someone to take a flier on him.

    Not a bad trade for either team.

    Reply
    • ifonlydetroitcoulddraft

      4 years ago

      Demeritte is hitting .286 20HR 74RBI with a .944 OPS in AAA. He’s probably batting third for the Tigers tomorrow lol

      Reply
      • RLD

        4 years ago

        That is great for Demerritte then. He wouldn’t have gotten a chance with the Braves.

        Reply
  65. Boknowsbaseball

    4 years ago

    Tigers finally get Sweet Revenge for the Smoltz for Alexander trade!!! Bless You Boys!!

    Reply
  66. jim stem

    4 years ago

    Wow. Tigers couldn’t get more than one struggling AA pitcher?

    Reply
  67. DarkSide830

    4 years ago

    if that’s all that’s highway robbery. Wentz isnt even all that great and Demeritte would need rule 5 protection.

    Reply
  68. AllOurGodsHaveAbandonedUs

    4 years ago

    Hopefully, this means the Braves release or send down Minter as well. I would say the same for Sobotka, but there is something about him that makes be think….uhhhh just not yet!

    Reply
  69. mcdusty49

    4 years ago

    What a soft package…nice work Dodgers smh

    Reply
  70. Lembeck4

    4 years ago

    Article states Wentz was a 6th Rd pick. According to Baseball Reference he was a 1st rounder (#40 overall).

    Reply
    • TomahawkChoppin609

      4 years ago

      That’s right. I believe the Braves took Ian Anderson at 3 because they believed they could sign him under slot and used the money they saved on his deal to go over slot value for Wentz.

      Reply
      • RBI

        4 years ago

        That’s true… for Wentz and Mueller both.

        Reply
  71. forwhomjoshbelltolls

    4 years ago

    The Melancon trade itself was bad, but…overall…the Braves improved their bullpen pretty significantly at a reasonable price.

    Reply
    • Fudd

      4 years ago

      The deal also centered around the Braves taking on his full salary for this year and next. The giants are just trying to cut payroll. They won’t win and they know it.

      Reply
  72. davidkaner

    4 years ago

    Greene is an above average reliever who got to be a Closer in Detroit. Braves barely gave up anyone worth worrying about for a guy you can depend on as a late inning reliever or even a Closer if needed. It’s a great move for them because he’s not a rental & is very dependable. Tigers got something for a guy that most likely comes back down to his normal stats next year. The most the Tigers get is a situational Lefty Reliever next year.

    Reply
  73. Atlanta Barves

    4 years ago

    THE ALLARD DEAL WILL HAUNT ATLANTA FOREVER.

    Reply
    • RBI

      4 years ago

      Hardly. It will not even register next week when Martin starts helping in late relief.

      Reply
  74. Neil G

    4 years ago

    Wentz would be a higher ranked pitcher/prospect on most farms except Braves are loaded in pitching prospects. He has potential to be good someday. Demeritte has been raking in AAA. Braves farm is also deep at OF, so Demeritte will get a chance elsewhere. Both of these guys needed a new environment or else be lost in the Braves prospect shuffle.

    Greene is not the best closer but he will be an immediate upgrade in Atlanta.

    Reply
  75. Anthony Gosed

    4 years ago

    Any idea why Demeritte has almost no prospect value but continues to produce at every level? Fangraphs has him as a 35 FV prospect but wRC+ above 100 at every stop. He has a high BABIP this year I think he’s shown enough pop and patience to have value

    Reply
    • ifonlydetroitcoulddraft

      4 years ago

      Yeah, I don’t get that either. Maybe a Braves fan who followed him has more insight. .286BA .944 OPS and 20HR/74RBI at AAA seems like someone who slides right into a LF everyday job audition in Detroit

      Reply
    • SalaryCapMyth

      4 years ago

      He hasn’t raked at every level. His OPS in 2017 was .708 and in 2018 it was .732 so I wouldnt trust that BABIP.

      Reply
  76. GarryHarris

    4 years ago

    The biggest winner is Shane Greene. I think Travis Demeritte is the best Braves AAA position players (not the best in the system) and will hit in MLB. He doesn’t look very good defensively. Since the Tigers are working to be a pitching first franchise, they need to concentrate on more solid defenders. All their OFs are not much better than bad.

    Joey Wentz fits in what the Tigers are trying to do. There’s no such thing as too much pitching.

    Reply
    • Hard to walk with four balls

      4 years ago

      Jones was one of the best defending OF in MLB last season.

      Reply
  77. weekapaug09

    4 years ago

    Wentz went 40th overall in the first comp round, not in the sixth round.

    Reply
  78. Fudd

    4 years ago

    I thought the Braves did quite well. With Jackson not being the closer any more maybe he’ll be a better 7th inning guy since it’s less pressure. But use malancon and green as setup and closer. It’s not bad at all. They’re gonna hit so there was really no need for them to get an impact bat. The starters are good(for the most part) and I think they have a well rounded bullpen now. But we’ll just have to see in October.

    Reply
  79. QuantomofFandom

    4 years ago

    Did anyone see what the Arizona Diamondbacks received from Zack Greinke trade?. It was a far better deal then Al “The Man Without A Plan” Avila made for Justin Verlander. Arizona received the Astro’s 3rd, 4th, 5h, and 22nd top prospects. Plus, get this, Arizona does not have to 8 million a year on Zack’s contact. Al are you taking notes?

    Reply
    • Chives

      4 years ago

      The Astro prospects in the D-backs deal are not that better compared the what Detroit got in there deal. 1 injured pitcher, 1 overhyped struggling pitcher, and a first base prospect (I actually like Beer) plus a scrubby throw in. Don’t see any panning out. I have hope Franklin Perez can stay healthy for the Tigers and show his potential. Plus, Rogers will be the Tigers starting catcher for the next 6 years.

      Reply
  80. QuantomofFandom

    4 years ago

    As for Al’s trades for today, I thought the goal was to acquire major league ready talent, in particular positional players. Yet we get three pitchers and an outfielder. None are major league ready. At this rate, we will be lucky if the rebuild is complete by 2027. Yes, that is a 10 year reboot.

    Reply
    • Chives

      4 years ago

      Demeritte can play all positions. His best position is actually 2B. I don’t see him part of the “plan” moving forward but he could bat cleanup with the current roster. Neither player had much trade value in today’s market, especially Nick.

      Reply
  81. rocknwell

    4 years ago

    “Surely won’t hold up”. Well how do you know that? It has so far! Why not longer? Please stop stating speculation as if its a fact. You can twist stats any way you want to make anyone look good or bad.

    Reply
  82. Atlbravesmania

    4 years ago

    Well, the relay problem was solved I wish they had changed to an elite pitcher but let’s see what happens.

    Reply
  83. joefriday14

    4 years ago

    The Tigers have the tools to contend this year. What a Team

    Reply

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