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East Notes: Thor, Lowe, Bundy, Richard

By Anthony Franco | July 14, 2019 at 11:22am CDT

The Mets’ struggles have mounted to the point that their general manager acknowledges having “low expectations” for the season’s second half. Despite the organization’s dumpster fire start, their young flamethrower has no hope of going elsewhere. “I love being a Met,” Noah Syndergaard told reporters, including Tim Healey of Newsday. “If something were to ever change, it’d be definitely bittersweet just because of New York City itself, the fan base and just the guys in this clubhouse have a special place in my heart.” As MLBTR’s Jeff Todd explored yesterday in a ranking of the top 60 trade candidates, the time might not be optimal to move Thor, who comes with two additional years of team control and is currently amidst a career-worst, albeit still more than adequate, season.

As we await the Mets’ next move, let’s check in on some injury notes from the East divisions:

  • Rays infielder Brandon Lowe might not return from the 10-day injured list until the club’s next homestand, which begins Friday against the White Sox, manager Kevin Cash told Marc Topkin of the Tampa Bay Times (via Twitter). Lowe, who leads AL rookies with 2.5 fWAR, was placed on the IL July 4 with a right shin contusion, sustained when he fouled a ball off his leg. Lowe’s .276/.339/.523 line isn’t quite sustainable so long as he continues to strike out in a third of his plate appearances, but there’s little question getting his bat back in the lineup will be a boon for a team looking to augment its roster in the coming weeks.
  • While Lowe will take more than the minimum to recover from his injury, Orioles right-hander Dylan Bundy hopes to be more fortunate. Bundy was placed on the IL yesterday with right knee tendinitis, but he tells Roch Kubatko of MASN (via Twitter) he’s confident he can return when first eligible on July 23. It’s been more of the same this year for the former fourth overall pick; despite a solid 24% strikeout rate and 7.9% walk rate, an inability to keep the ball in the yard has Bundy’s ERA above 5.00 for the second consecutive season. Given his performance, he seems unlikely to be much of a trade chip this summer, even if he does return to the field in short order.
  • The Blue Jays announced they’ve placed Clayton Richard on the 10-day injured list with a left lat strain, activating Edwin Jackson from an IL stint of his own in a corresponding move. Richard departed yesterday’s start against the Yankees after just two innings, leaving the bullpen to handle a hefty workload. The IL stint seems to foreclose any chance the Jays can flip Richard before the trade deadline, but he wouldn’t have been in high demand regardless, as he’s managed only a 5.96 ERA with a woeful 11% strikeout rate over ten starts. The 35-year-old is playing out the final months of a two-year/$6MM contract and is likely headed for a minor-league deal this winter.
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  1. Frankie Bani

    6 years ago

    Lets trade Urshela and Frazier for Noah Syndergaar

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    • Birch

      6 years ago

      That’s a pretty typical Yankees fan offer.

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      • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

        6 years ago

        That’s a good offer. I distinctly remember when Frazier was too much to offer for “a 4th or 5th starter like Gerrit Cole.”

        Mets need to jump all over that. Maybe they can get Cameron Maybin, too.

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        • Birch

          6 years ago

          Who said Cole was a 4th or 5th starter? Also, Frazier plays what position? Where do the Mets have some good young players? In the corner OF… no need. Hard pass.

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        • johnrealtime

          6 years ago

          Lol people really go wild for Yankee prospects or even former prospects now

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        • floridapinstripes

          6 years ago

          No Frazier and andujar was too much. Frazier was available just with a different piece

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        • billysbballz

          6 years ago

          Once again fake news by bell tolls!
          Pitt wanted Andujar, Frazier, and Adams and settled for the return they got which we pretty much said back then was shocking and we were pretty much all right in that assessment.

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        • 24TheKid

          6 years ago

          That package would have been fair for Cole.

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        • maggot

          6 years ago

          Speaking of Yankees prospects, perhaps Jesus Montero could be included too.

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        • 66TheNumberOfTheBest

          6 years ago

          They wanted Andujar or Frazier AND Adams. The Yankees offered Frazier OR Adams and some spare parts.

          Instead, we got a solid SP, a 3B on pace for 20 HR and 80-90 RBI’s (while only playing 2/3rd of the games) and a decent bullpen piece. MLB ready pieces. And a minor leaguer who came up and contributed in a pinch when injuries struck who still has some upside.

          So, if your assessment was that they got 3-4 MLB players with 5 or 6 years of team control over each in exchange for a “4th or 5th starter”, it was almost correct. Cole was better than that.

          The Yankees offer was absolute junk, so Houston got him instead.

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        • resident

          6 years ago

          Maybe you could throw in Ellsberry

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          Who are the Mets good young players. You’re players are so good that you are playing Conforto in cf and Dom Smith a 1b and NcNeil an infielder in the corner positions. Oh btw if Conforto is one of your good ofs he has a 250 lifetime ba and hits 25 to 30 hrs a year very average player .In a third of a season Frazier hit 11 hrs with a 283 ba and 34 ribbys which projects to 33 hrs and 102 rbis and he will probably improve as a hitter.Met fans have to stop overestimating their talent.

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          Frazier projects BUT HAS NOT DONE. If you want Projects in 2017 Conforto hit 27 hr is 440 ab but only hit 28 in 638 ab in 2018–Projects doesn’t mean will do. Cano PROJECTS to be a 300 hitter with 25 hr but he’s not. IF YOUR YANKEES DON’T WIN THE W/S THIS YEAR IT A LOST YEAR FOR YOU GUYS, I have the summer off and I’m OK with my team..

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      • floridapinstripes

        6 years ago

        What about Frazier, urshela and Losaiga ?

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        • unsaturatedmatz

          6 years ago

          Probably would take someone like Luis Gil or Antionio Cabello on top of that. Maybe even Florial. I would think Deivi Garcia is off-limits in trade talks.

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          No thank you.. If Frazier is soooooo good, why did the Yankee sign Maybin.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          I don’t think Urshela really has value to anyone besides Yankee fans

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    • clrrogers 2

      6 years ago

      Why in the world would the Mets take that offer?

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    • Frahm_

      6 years ago

      I don’t think anyone wants urshela look at his career stats.

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      • fits65

        6 years ago

        And Noah’s having such a good year. Over his career you can always depend on his durability.

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        • king beas

          6 years ago

          If Noah has so many flaws why do Yankees fans continue to want him?

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    • Mjm117

      6 years ago

      Yankee fans are delusional

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    • findingnimmo

      6 years ago

      Maybe andujar, Frazier, and a pitching prospect?

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    • GONEcarlo

      6 years ago

      Throw in Rob Refsnyder and you got a deal

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    • metfan4ever

      6 years ago

      No Team is getting THOR,. Everyone of you computer baseball people say is a bad year for him–He’s still 3 games over 500. @ 26 what was deGrom’s #s-9 & 6. Boy SOME of the uneducated Yankee Fans pray for thing to fall to them. But keep in mind if they don’t win a W/S then all these wins, last the last 2 years are all for nothing. That’s only to the UNEDUCATED and the ONES who never made it into the field of a real baseball game. 28 BLOWN SAVES are the METS issue not starting pitching. Well and Cano Can-Not too. #3 hitter that doesn’t hit. .

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      • bencole

        6 years ago

        Using win loss record as a meaningful stat for a pitcher makes you seem uneducated.

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          really. so Pitchers go to the HOF with a 500 record or losing record.. If he had a 1 era but lost 12 games that would be better.. Only people who never played the game competitively say things like that. Stop playing computer BB.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          Yes. Really. So the game has realized through statistics that win loss record does not properly measure the value or performance of a pitcher. They’ve done that over the last 20 years, after most of the guys went to the HOF based upon the old view of win loss record. Look, at this point you just have to not be an idiot to realize that metrics are right most of the time. It’s not even really a dispute anymore, it’s basically a few old guys clinging to the idea that they had it right the first time.
          For what it’s worth, I was never a big time player, but I pitched, played CF and SS in high school, wasn’t good enough to play ball at the Big10 university I went to, and have played high level amateur ball for the next 16 years after, 8 of which as a SP. Never a stud, but played the game a bunch. Experience is valuable when it comes to understanding baseball, from someone who has a ton of it, but it doesn’t obviate the need to understand math and stats.

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        • Mendoza Line 215

          6 years ago

          Bencole,metfan is more right than you.Yes,I am an old guy clinging to the past who used numbers and statistics in my professional job for over forty years.I can assure you that over time the pluses and minuses cancel out and looking at a career you will not see pitchers with winning %’s of .400 enter the HOF simply because they were not good enough to be there.
          You just won’t.
          The goal of baseball is winning the game,not having the most strikeouts or the best statistics.
          Too many of those who share your opinion can’t get their noses out of their I phones long enough to see the forest for the trees.
          These statistics are fine for the short run.Some of them are extensions that were not or little used before and are very helpful.But to think that these “old fashioned” statistics are meaningless because you have shiny new toys to use is downright simplistic and decidedly not cool.
          Then again how does one describe a rose to a blind man.

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        • therealryan

          6 years ago

          You’re right metfan4ever and I think the Mets should contact the Rays and see if they can trade Thor straight up for Ryan Yarborough. Yarborough won 16 games last year as a rookie and is 8-3 this year. His career 24-9, .727 win % is fantastic and much better than Syndergaard’s. The Rays front office is full of nerds too, so they would probably jump all over this offer. Talk to your people in the front office of the Mets and lets make it happen.

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          Rays wouldn’t do it. They only trade player they will lose control over. and My people? I’m a fan not a GM.

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          nice

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          so the Redsox won last year with Sale have a losing record-NO, or are they have a better year with his 3 and 8 record.. Play the game in real life not in a computer.. It’s agents that makes stats other than wins and loses a big deal.

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          Hey Metsfan4ever.It seems you answered my response and then deleted it.You questioned if I had ever played baseball, Answer I have in high school and college and you know what, Having played baseball doesn’t make you more knowledgeable about the game it just means you have more talent. You said the Mets quit on Degrom because he was a whiner and players don’t play as hard for whiners. First Degrom is not a whiner. Second if you had played baseball like you claimed you would know that players want to win and the want the best pitcher who can get them that win pitching for them as often as possible. If you were playing less hard for pitchers you didn’t like then you were a bad teammatet o the rest of your team who were trying to win.Finally you talk about WIn Loss as being so important and only agents care about other stats. Maybe you’ve heard about Nolan Ryan. For his career he was 32 games over 500. He played 27 years so that means he was about 1 game over 500 per year.He’s in the HOF. Maybe he had a good agent. Bert Blyleven 27 games over 500 again about 1 game per year over 500. In HOF. Good agent? Finally you ridiculed me saying the Yankees hadn’t done anything since losing to the Marlins in 2003.. First off as a Met fan your team hasn’t even won a division title since the 1980s. Secondly we won it all in 2009.I guess you missed that. In your letter you called me a pissant.I kind of like that. You however are a bitter Met fan who either knows nothing or is so angry about how bad his team is that he continues to spew stupidity at everyone else on the site because their teams might actually play competitive baseball

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          Willy Willy Willy—I guess reading is not a strong suit for you—“. Guys don’t want to play hard when he’s on the mound. Also I did say” is what I posted but you read –“You said the Mets quit on Degrom because he was a whiner ” playing hard is so different than quit. Now let’s Talk about Ryan-What about his 7 No Hitters and I really agree-32 over 500 is still OVER 500. & Blyeven, 27 over 500 is again OVER 500.–ALSO-again reading being your isse-“Yankees hadn’t done anything since losing to the Marlins in 2003.” is what you posted when I posted “IF YOUR YANKEES DON’T WIN THE W/S THIS YEAR IT A LOST YEAR FOR YOU GUYS,”

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          You are good at wriggling. You say something then back off it. You said that Degrom didn’t deserve the Cy Young based on his Won Loss record He was one game over 500.So just to get it straight I’ts okay to average 1 game over 500 a year for a career to get in the HOF but it’s a higher standard for a Cy Young Award. As to your Miami Marlins comment talk about bad reading I never posted anything previous to this about the Miam Marlins but good point..And not playing hard is so different than quit huh. So when a team can’t score more than 2 runs a game it’s not that they are quitting it’s just that they are not playing hard. Alright. That makes sense. Not. Also you implied the reason the Mets didn’t play hard for Degrom last year because he complained about the teams shifting this year.If the Mets team dislikes Degrom so much how come in the off season Thor backed by several other Mets demanded the team extend Degrom. I’m sure there is some more wriggling for you to make It’s what you are best at.Oh btw you are right taking on a 24 mill contract and trading two prospects to get a closer is much smarter then actually signing a free agent closer. Are you related to Brodie or simply just as dense as him

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          Please read–I posted “so Pitchers go to the HOF with a 500 record or losing record.-That is what I posted—which is a # of years not 1 year. Also Scherzer 18 & 7, Nola 17 & 7(in a hitter’s park) & Freeland 17 & 7(in a hitter’s park) mean not to me that 10 & in a pitcer’s park-Also NY has more influence that the other 3 cities..(I really do not believe you played H.S or college as you stated-I think you’re just a troll) Also A Pitcher back supporting another Pitcher is different THEN an everyday player. who are the “several other Mets demanded the team extend Degrom.” who. Thor maybe lining himself up for a big contract. Also was Van deGrom’s agent & Cano. BOTTOM LINE 28 blown saves this year for the Mets-SO LONG TROLL.

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          So like I said HOF one game over 500 fine Cy Young no good. Nolan Ryan had 9 losing records over his career. Go ahead and tell me he doesn’t belong in the HOF. You don’t believe I played any baseball based on nothing. I don’t believe youplayed any baseball because anybody who plays baseball knows that winning is based on team hitting the team didn’t and team fielding the team didn’t. I notice you talk about the parks they played in but no mention of the fact that the Mets are notorious for ba ddefense. Everymetric points to the fact that over the last 5 years the Mets have made fewer plays for the pitchers then any other team in baseball. I am no troll.You are just a blind Met fan arguing an untenuous position based on the fact the Win Loss really matters. Wins require a teamto produce. A piotcher like Nolan Ryan pitched for a lot of bad teams. Thats why his record is what it is not anything that Ryan did or didn’t do. I could see you after a 1-0 game blaming yourpitcher for the loss not the team that played behind him.Thats exactly what you are doing here. It’s easy to call other people trolls. Why not realize that thinkng Win Loss is the end all and be all of pitching success is the wrong when to determine if a pitcher is getting the job done. Have a nice life troll

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          Troll-I’m so tried of you. Ryan is 32 games over 500 not 1. And the same BAD D still had Thor 9 over 500 and Wheeler winning his last 9 in a row last year. SAME D. Also incorrect-Ryan pitched for the Angels when they were contender, same for Houston. He pitched in pitcher’s parks. He also never won a CY. won 20 game twice while losing 18+ both times. the only BAD teams were his last 5 years in TX, his career ERA was 3.19, He was the # 2 guy in both 82(Scott) & 86(JR). Why do I think wins for a pitcher mean so much BECAUSE EVERY STARTING MLB PITCHER TAKES MOUND TO WIN, NOT TIE, NOT LEAVE IT TO THE BULLPEN. BUT TO WIN.. So SUCCESS to you is a ND. I bet you get a sticker in school that read “MY CHILD PARTICIPATED IN SOMETHING.

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      • fits65

        6 years ago

        Sounds like you are such an expert with a team having a great year and not winning it all. It must bring back great memories for you mf4, because aside from 2015 and 2000 teams it’s like Oh for the past 30 years.

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          am I the GM. A fam can only be a fan not a player, or a GM. get a grip

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      • Willy Mays

        6 years ago

        According to you DeGrom was an average pitcher last year.If thats the case since Degrom is 15-16 over last two years the Yankees will take him off your hands because of his onerous salary .I’m sure Boston Chicago La Minn etc will be in on that too.Only a Met fan would use WIn Loss as a way to determine a pitchers worth.Btw the only reason Thor is going nowhere is Brodie knows nothing about being a GM. Because of the terrible Cano trade and the backended salaries of DeG and Familia your salary structure will explode in the future and because of the Cano trade you emptied your farm system. Next year your pitching staff is DeG Thor and who the heck knows. Any sane GM would be trading Thor and possibly DeG but Brodie has no clue

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          I’m a Met fan and I didn’t think her should have won the Cy Young. But at 15 & 16 I would NOT give him away. We didn’t empty the farm system, we gave a 18 yr old left hand hitting corner OF(we have 2 already in the ML) and a 22 yr old RH pitcher. Both have done nothing in MLB and it was for Diaz.. Did the Mets over pay-YES, but teams do that. Remember the CUBS gave THE Yankees Gleyber Torres for 2 months of Chapmen and gave the WhiteSox Eloy Jimmenez for Jose Quintana. Washington gave up Lucas Giolito @ 24 he’s 11 & 3(that right wins don’t mean anything-wrong) for Adam Eaton and his high for RBIs for the Nats is 33..
          And why would a GM trade a 26 yr old pitcher who under team control till 2021.. Willy you must be old or s SF fan which means you have you own issue

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          You might be a Met fan but you are very ignorant if you don’t think Degrom deserved the Cy Young. I hate the Mets and I know it would’ve been a travesty if Degrom didn’t win the Cy Young. The Mets have for a long time been the worst defensive team in baseball. His defense made no great plays behind him and yet he had an historically low era.Anyone who values won loss over era or whip just doesn’t know baseball.Period. A pitcher can only control what he does. He can’t control how many runs his team scores for him. As for me being a Giant fan wrong again. I am a Yankee fan. As for your comment about you having given nothing away because of the positions they play.Again ignorance. You gave away the 3 6 pick in the 2018 draft and another young player. How do you know what the Mets needs will be 4 years from now,Also if you needed a reliever there wer 7 or 8 of them you could’ve gotten last year without taking on a terrible contract and trading your two highest rated minor leaguers. You deserve the Mets because you know as much about baseball as your GM and owner do

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    • txman22

      6 years ago

      Frazier & another piece, preferably a bullpen guy better than Familia (that’s easy) for Wheeler.

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  2. batty

    6 years ago

    Of course Syndergaard wants to remain in NYC. It helps his brand by being there. If he were to be traded to a team in the Midwest or certain other less prominent and high marketing teams, his name/face/brand wouldn’t carry as much luster. He can make much more outside money there than elsewhere.

    I’m not discounting that he may actually love the city, just that it’s smart for him to want to remain there for monetary purposes as well.

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    • SuperSinker

      6 years ago

      Thank you for pointing out that New York is a big city

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      • batty

        6 years ago

        Try not being a troll

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    • fits65

      6 years ago

      Or he is sending a message that it’s more about the city and then his teammates, and not about the organization.

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  3. metsufferer

    6 years ago

    So Bryce Harper made a good throw and flipped his bat yesterday after homering against his former team the Washington Nationals.. La De Da and big deal.He should check the latest standings. He can practice his bat flips and throw against a wall all autumn while the Nationals head to the playoffs.

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    • T_Rexx2

      6 years ago

      This article said nothing about Bryce.

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Meh….it’s about the East. Close enough.

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    • WubbaLubbaDubDub

      6 years ago

      Want some cheese?

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  4. bobtillman

    6 years ago

    “Is a bachelor a man who has never seriously considered marriage, or one who has?” (Aristotle)

    “Is Dylan Bundy returning quickly from injury a good thing or a bad thing?” (Tillman)

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    • Mendoza Line 215

      6 years ago

      To be is to do(Aristotle)
      To do is to be(Socrates)
      Do be do be do be (Sinatra)

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  5. Jonthunder

    6 years ago

    Yanks should pursue deGrom give the Mets prospects and eat that horrific Cano contract to make it worth their while.

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    • floridapinstripes

      6 years ago

      lol won’t get many prospects if you attach Cano

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      • king beas

        6 years ago

        Mariners still did

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        • fits65

          6 years ago

          Yeah-they took advantage of a commissioned salesperson who became GM. Knowing nothing except “talking things up” he got fleeced by a savvy GM and then went to the Wilpon’s where he gave the Academy Award performance of his life.

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        • Willy Mays

          6 years ago

          Yeah but there is only one Brodie in the league lol

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  6. bucketbrew35

    6 years ago

    “So Bryce Harper made a good throw and flipped his bat yesterday after homering against his former team the Washington Nationals.. La De Da and big deal.He should check the latest standings. He can practice his bat flips and throw against a wall all autumn while the Nationals head to the playoffs.”

    Harper did make a nice play yesterday. However he has not yet homered in the second half. Pretty sad when you make things up to try and push your tired narrative in a baseball rumors comment section.

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  7. Drew Waters Bat

    6 years ago

    On a side note, what would it take to pry Jacob deGrom from the Mets? Maybe they attach Cano to get it pushed threw. Say Rafael Ortega, Jaseell de la Cruz, Kolby Allard and Kyle Muller. Or switch out de la Cruz for Huascar Ynoa.

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    • TheOtherMikeD

      6 years ago

      Go here : m.mlb.com/prospects/2019?list=atl. Look at 1-5. Swap in Riley for one of them. Press send. The Mets aren’t giving up DeGrom to a division rival for 8, 10, 11 and 21.

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      • Deleted Userrrrr

        6 years ago

        They would if it means shedding Cano’s contract

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        • king beas

          6 years ago

          Mets gave up 1&3 for cano

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        • Drew Waters Bat

          6 years ago

          Look where that deal has gotten them. You dont honestly believe that Cano is worth anybody’s number 1 prospect now do you? He is borderline unplayable.

          I only suggest for the Braves to trade for him then cut him. Nobody should play him in the field let alone the batters box. He has full blown negative value.

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        • metfan4ever

          6 years ago

          Met’s didn’t trade # 1 prospect for Cano they did for Diaz. This from a fam who’s team won 12 straight easten div and won 1 W/S with how many HOF.

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        • Drew Waters Bat

          6 years ago

          Excuse me, it was 13 straight years. You should do better research before you speak. You know Google is free right?

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          No they wouldn’t. Not a chance.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          The Mets aren’t giving away DeGrom to get rid of Cano. Wtf are you smoking

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        • fits65

          6 years ago

          The Diaz excuse is destined to become 2nd most popular in Mets history, just behind the Bernie Madoff excuse. Just give it at least 4-5 years of watching Cano’s continued slide.

          You were espousing the greatness of Cano in the winter mf4, right?

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      • Drew Waters Bat

        6 years ago

        That thinking has the mets where they are sitting at. In delusional la la land with their come get us attitude. Good luck eating that Cano contract while oops, dont forget bonilla day. If only they weren’t so proud to do a rebuild. Might actually accomplish something then.

        Granted… I dont think either New York team would be able to do a rebuild. Not with those media outlets.

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        • lucienbel

          6 years ago

          I feel like if the Mets went into a rebuild they’d get the six months or so worth of coverage about how this core couldn’t get it done. But then at least if they were rebuilding, it’d look like they were trying for the future. I don’t feel like the media would be saying a whole lot worse than they already are.

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        • king beas

          6 years ago

          Not saying cano was worth what they gave he’s not at all but they’re not going to make it even worse and trade Degrom just to get rid of him

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    • unsaturatedmatz

      6 years ago

      Using the Padres as an example for the package, it would likely take something along the lines of MacKenzie Gore/Chris Paddack, Luis Patiño or Xavier Edwards and Ryan Weathers, and Josh Naylor. Cy Young caliber arms don’t grow on trees.

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      • bleacherbum

        6 years ago

        The Padres would NEVER pay that price. Way too steep.

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      • bencole

        6 years ago

        This is not even close to what Syndergaard is worth now… maybe a couple years ago. There would be no Gore/Paddack type piece, Patino or Edwards is probably your headliner, I don’t even think they’d do Edwards, and then Weathers and or Naylor, plus a lottery ticket. There’s no way at this point Noah can bring back a guy of top 10-15 type ranking. And I’m not a Pads fan.

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        • unsaturatedmatz

          6 years ago

          He asked about deGrom, not Syndergaard. If Chris Archer, the epitome of a #3 starter brought back a package of Austin Meadows, Tyler Glasnow, and Shane Baz with the same time remaining on his contract, this is certainly realistic for deGrom.

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        • Mendoza Line 215

          6 years ago

          Yes but they are not dealing with Neil Huntington either,are they?

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          Ah, that’s a little closer, doing it on the app it’s hard to tell. Still, there’s not that much surplus value in that contract, and to be honest, even if there was, no ones trading a prospect like Gore/Paddack. Not even for him, those guys are cheap and controlled. I like the rest of your package and think there’s room to add maybe, but they’re still not landing Gore or Paddack.

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        • bencole

          6 years ago

          Also keep in mind, the stock on Glasnow and Meadows was way down at the time of that trade.

          Reply
  8. niched

    6 years ago

    I don’t get the Mets. So many talented players and they still find a way be the second worst team in the NL East. The only worse run organization are the Orioles, but at least the O’s are making an effort to turn things around. If the Mets aren’t careful they’ll soon have a season as bad as the O’s did in 2018. Then again maybe that’s exactly what they need to force a complete overhaul of the front office.

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    • king beas

      6 years ago

      Baltimore won’t reach 40 wins until August. How is run differential a relevant stat?

      Reply
    • metfan4ever

      6 years ago

      28 blown saves.

      Reply
  9. unsaturatedmatz

    6 years ago

    Syndergaard hypotheticals:

    Astros for Kyle Tucker, Framber Valdez, Seth Beer, and Tyler Ivey

    Padres for Luis Patiño, Xavier Edwards, Andres Muñoz, and Buddy Reed

    Rays for Vidal Brujan, Jesus Sanchez, and Shane McClanahan

    Yankees for Estevan Florial, Clint Frazier, Luis Gil, and Tyler Wade

    Twins for Trevor Larnach, Jordan Balazovic, Luis Arraez, and Fernando Romero

    Braves for Christian Pache and Ian Anderson

    Brewers for Keston Hiura, Tristin Lutz, and Corbin Burnes

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    • jdgoat

      6 years ago

      Almost all of those are too much, especially the Milwaukee one. I don’t know if they’d deal Hiura straight up for Thor to be honest.

      Reply
      • unsaturatedmatz

        6 years ago

        We can agree to disagree on that front. Lutz and Burnes isn’t a very substantial package of secondary pieces.

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    • therealryan

      6 years ago

      As a Rays, I would say that is a good core of a deal if the Mets add Diaz. If not, remove one of Sanchez or Brujan and replace him with a FV 45, or maybe FV 50 grade prospect.

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    • bencole

      6 years ago

      Noah will bring one top 50 guy only, and some decent pieces behind him. He’s not going to bring an ace package. All of those offers are too much, except the Yankees one, and maybe the Twins is close. Mets won’t get close to what they would’ve in the offseason for Syndergaard. He’s worth little enough that the Mets probably won’t trade him.

      Reply
  10. bjaygrr1977

    6 years ago

    Probably nobody really cares, but it is comforting knowing that Edwin Jackson is coming back to replace Clayton Richard! I don’t think either of them even belong on a AAA roster. Such as the times we are in and enjoy with Shapiro/Atkins in Toronto. Always quality players fighting for major league rosters and playing time with the big club!

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    • its_happening

      6 years ago

      All the more reason Stroman needs to be traded for Starting Pitching only. The Edwin callup shows they are lacking.

      Reply
    • Mendoza Line 215

      6 years ago

      What that tells you bjay is that there are too many ML teams for the real number of ML pitchers,and a quarter of them are hurt at any one time anyway.
      It also shows that there are 25% more pitching openings per team than thirty years ago.
      That is why guys like Edwin Jackson and Clayton Richard can still remain pitching.

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      • its_happening

        6 years ago

        Or stop allowing hitters to have more advantages than they ever had 25 years ago. Maybe there’d be less injuries to pitchers. Then again an injury creates a new 6-figure job for the next pitcher. And the pitcher after that…..

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  11. metfan4ever

    6 years ago

    28 blown saves., that is 28 less wins. do the math. even if the lost 1/3 of those games the Mets record would be a lot better

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  12. metfan4ever

    6 years ago

    Met’s didn’t trade # 1 prospect for Cano they did for Diaz. This from a fam who’s team won 12 straight easten div and won 1 W/S with how many HOF.

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  13. metfan4ever

    6 years ago

    Met’s didn’t trade # 1 prospect for Cano they did for Diaz. This from a fam who’s team won 12 straight easten div and won 1 W/S with how many HOF.. At least we get the summer off

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  14. Armaday

    6 years ago

    May cost the Yanks Frazier and a potentially good young pitching prospect to get Thor. Garcia or Abreu would be fair and would probably get it done!

    Reply
    • unsaturatedmatz

      6 years ago

      MLB.com’s prospect rankings from January 2019 don’t reflect how things currently stand nor do they reflect the entire industry— Deivi Garcia has taken a huge step forward and is a guy who could potentially step into the rotation in the next month for the Yankees, while Albert Abreu’s development has stalled. They are by no means on the same valuation plane. Abreu would still make sense as a secondary piece for Thor, but Garcia seems all but untouchable.

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  15. metnoxious

    6 years ago

    Frazier is damaged goods. Unfortunately, it may be the concussion. So Cashman is trying to over value him so someone will want him. Yankees system is in a lull. Other teams have much superior prospects.

    Reply
  16. Brad Vanderberg

    6 years ago

    Edwin Jackson….? WTF…how come I didn’t get a call up!

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