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Latest On Trevor Bauer

By Connor Byrne | July 27, 2019 at 11:38pm CDT

It’s anyone’s guess whether the Indians will trade right-hander Trevor Bauer before Wednesday’s deadline. On one hand, he’s an integral piece of a surging team that has climbed to 62-42, putting the Tribe four up on the AL’s top wild-card spot and just one back of the division-leading Twins. On the other, the budget-conscious Indians would net an enticing return for Bauer, who’s on a $13MM salary and figures to earn a raise of $5MM or more to conclude his arbitration control next season. Even if the Indians decide to retain Bauer through this year, his time in Cleveland is nearing a conclusion. The 28-year-old “almost certainly” isn’t going to be on the Indians’ roster in 2020, Paul Hoynes of cleveland.com reports.

In the meantime, the Indians have a few days to choose how to proceed with Bauer this season. There’s already known to be plenty of interest in Bauer, but it seems two of the Indians’ AL rivals – the Yankees and Astros – are pursuing him with more vigor than anyone else. Those two clubs “keep inquiring about Bauer,” writes Hoynes, who adds the Indians have also discussed him with the Padres and Braves.

Among the Yankees, Astros, Padres and Braves, only San Diego isn’t an immediate contender. However, the club is known to like Bauer, whom it tried to acquire at the beginning of the season. Led by their collection of young talent, the Padres have made progress since then, and they’re aiming to make a more spirited run at a playoff berth next year. That’s evidenced by the club’s interest in Bauer and other established starters, including Tigers lefty Matthew Boyd and Mets righty Noah Syndergaard.

It would seem rather difficult for Cleveland to hand Bauer to New York or Houston, in part because the Indians could realistically wind up facing him as a Yankee or Astro in the postseason. Plus, considering Corey Kluber has been out since May 1 with a forearm fracture (and isn’t returning imminently) and Carlos Carrasco’s battling leukemia, the Indians arguably need Bauer more than ever.

Bauer not only leads the Indians’ staff in innings (152 1/3), but he paces the entire league in that department, and has logged a solid 3.49 ERA/4.19 FIP with 10.58 K/9 and 3.49 BB/9. All-Star MVP Shane Bieber is the lone Indians starter who has outperformed Bauer over the course of a full season in 2019. Mike Clevinger has been fantastic again, though he has only made nine starts. Another rookie, Zach Plesac, has joined Bieber in outdoing Bauer in ERA (3.10), but that figure looks like a house of cards when examining his fielding-independent pitching numbers. Meanwhile, Adam Plutko and the currently injured Jefry Rodriguez have managed back-end type of numbers over a combined 17 starts.

For now, the interest in Bauer may wind up going for naught. The Indians could prefer to hold Bauer and try to take another run at a championship as control over him and several other notables – most importantly, Francisco Lindor – dissipates. If the Indians elect against moving Bauer in the next few days, Hoynes suggests they’ll attempt to supplement their roster, perhaps by by adding relief and-or offensive help. Hoynes points to Rangers slugger Hunter Pence as “a possibility” for Cleveland, though it’s unclear if that’s speculation or if there’s real interest on the Tribe’s part.

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  1. allweatherfan

    6 years ago

    Bauer will be traded in the offseason, not now.

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    • baseball10

      6 years ago

      Agreed

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    • Ronk325

      6 years ago

      Exactly, any conversations the Indians have with other teams now regarding Bauer are simply to gauge his trade value for the offseason

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    • deweybelongsinthehall

      6 years ago

      Whether he’s traded before Wednesday or not, he “shouldn’t” be as the team owes it to the fan base to go for it now. Only trade him now if the team can swing multiple trades where they get a haul back after also securing his 2019 replacement. I just don’t see that happening.

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      • dimitrios in la

        6 years ago

        Very much agree. Trading him is a really (pardon the pun) tough sell for the fan base.

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      • Avory

        6 years ago

        {chuckle} You mean, the fanbase which turns out in droves for a winning team? The fanbase that accuses ownership of being cheap despite record payroll for winning team that doesn’t draw? Please, just stop with the idea that the fanbase is owed anything…our “fanbase” pays more attention to a Browns preseason game than a big series against the Twins. I’m just grateful we have an ownership group committed to baseball in Cleveland despite the lack of appreciation for the sport. You’re not a major league city without baseball, but Cleveland hardly cares.

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        • jvandy921

          6 years ago

          Very well said. If fans showed up like in the 90’s maybe ownership would spend more. 13000 attendance for a contending team doesn’t cut it. C’Mon Cleveland show up

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    • solaris602

      6 years ago

      To do otherwise would be completely insane. The return would be greater if they dealt him now of course, but he’s needed in the Tribe rotation for the post season. Even if CLE could net another Oscar Mercado for him this winter, I’d be happy.

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  2. todd76

    6 years ago

    He stays put. Indians need him badly right now.

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  3. Strike Four

    6 years ago

    Gotta stay for now. Indians are 20 games over .500 and he’s a big reason why. Gotta contend not rebuild.

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  4. daysauce

    6 years ago

    Shane Bieber is a rookie?

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    • ryno

      6 years ago

      No

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  5. BobSacamano

    6 years ago

    Only in Cleveland! You’re so close to a strong playoff run..don’t give up the ship!

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  6. joesmith9809

    6 years ago

    The last time Hoynes was right, the Indians won the World Series.

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    • gson

      6 years ago

      You are overstating this…

      The next time Hoynes is right…..will be his first…

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  7. Deleted Userrrrr

    6 years ago

    Trading him at this point makes as much sense for Cleveland as trading Hyun-Jin Ryu would for LA.

    I’ll tell you what won’t happen: The Indians trading Trevor Bauer at the 2019 trade deadline and then making it to the 2019 ALDS.

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  8. IndiansSpy

    6 years ago

    Indians have a major deal in place as buyer, not a seller. It’s pretty significant as well !!

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    • SuperSinker

      6 years ago

      Thank you for this inside info MLBTR commenter

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    • PopeMarley

      6 years ago

      Are you gonna be at Roswell this fall?

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    • Michael Birks

      6 years ago

      Mookie Betts for a bag of game used jock straps?

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  9. terry g

    6 years ago

    He’s going to stay until the off season. It makes no sense to trade him now. In the off season they may even decide to trade within their own league.

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  10. sufferforsnakes

    6 years ago

    What most don’t know about is how Bauer truly feels about being a member of the Tribe. He’s been vocal about it, especially his preference of Roberto Perez as his personal catcher. If you haven’t noticed how he’s progressed as a pitcher since joining Cleveland, then you’re absolutely blind. His best friend on the team is Clevinger, and that whole staff is tight. Some of them have joined him at Driveline Baseball in the off season. His training techniques have been adapted by many of them.
    Being that it’s Trevor Bauer, it wouldn’t surprise me if he signed a team-friendly extension.

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    • BobSacamano

      6 years ago

      I can’t imagine Cleveland signing that $20m “team friendly” for Bauer. Hopefully they do, and lock up Lindor. I think Dan Gilbert would have to get involved.

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      • sufferforsnakes

        6 years ago

        I’m not talking $20M. I’m talking him changing his mind(this is Bauer) and signing for more years. He’ll just have to pay up on the bet with his friend.
        Gilbert getting involved would be nice.

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        • lsujedi

          6 years ago

          He’s not signing multiple years. Only thing going against his strategy is the whole QO situation.

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        • sufferforsnakes

          6 years ago

          I’m thinking outside the box, since it’s Bauer we’re talking about. If anyone would pull a surprise like that, it’d be him. Like I said, fans outside of Cleveland don’t know the things he’s said about playing for the Tribe. He loves it there, and sometimes it’s not just about money.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          I’m sure he likes it in Cleveland, but this dude is quirky and then tolerate it but wouldn’t be sad to see him go. I think that article in SI awhile ago says it all, so I wouldn’t be sad to see him go if the return is right. That said, he can be a beast, never wants to come out and will take the mound every 2nd day if you let him. Whatever team acquires him, if he’s dealt in the next few days, will get @ guy that will pitch pissed off and give them everything they paid for and then some. Think Milwaukee used and abused CC when they acquired him? Bauer would top that IMO.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          He showed his @$$ yet once again. This is a guy they like but wouldn’t shed a tear if he were dealt. His comments about being better than Kluber and other things are the things you keep to yourself. If the SI article did not. seal his departure, his meltdown today certainly should.

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    • IndiansSpy

      6 years ago

      Bauer is currently our 5th best starter, no way the Indians sign him long term.

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      • BobSacamano

        6 years ago

        Bauer is a number 1 on at least a third of the league. He’s a very ideal extension worthy player. I unfortunately don’t think Cleveland will cut that check.

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        • IndiansSpy

          6 years ago

          To funny , Like I said, he’s our 5th best pitcher.

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        • sufferforsnakes

          6 years ago

          Actually, you’re not funny at all.

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        • SuperSinker

          6 years ago

          Not funny or true

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        • Lou$

          6 years ago

          He’s the best starter on the team- get over yourself.

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      • Polish Hammer

        6 years ago

        Our 5th best starter? You speaking on behalf of the American League? He’s closer to the ALs 5th best than the Tribe’s 5th best.

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  11. Paul Heyman

    6 years ago

    Unless the Indians get one big offer than trade Bauer, but that’s unlikely to happen so the team is better off holding on to him and trading him during the offseason.

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  12. Bruin1012

    6 years ago

    They aren’t trading Bauer cmon let’s get real

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  13. phantomofdb

    6 years ago

    It would be an absolute absurdity for them to trade Bauer.

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  14. playicy

    6 years ago

    Bauer will be traded by Wednesday to the Phillies, because the Indians are going to be sellers with players not under contract or due to big money next year, because of a cheap owner, but they will be buyers too on cheaper affordable and controllable players

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    • Avory

      6 years ago

      Substitute “smart” for “cheap” and you’d be closer to the truth. You couldn’t possibly prefer the Tribe be run by idiot ownership like the Padres or Phillies would you? If the Tribe holds onto Bauer it’s only because no one offered them enough, or failed to offer them a bat that assists their every day lineup this year as well as going forward. They wouldn’t trade Bauer unless net-net you could argue the team stays as competitive now as without him AND provides value in the future. The pressure to deal him is off, however, with the improvement of guys like Naquin and Luplow, as well as the re-establishment of Jose Ramirez and Jason Kipnis and the emergence of Oscar Mercado. The question becomes, can you trust this lineup against better pitching? If you do, there’s no need to deal Bauer this year unless you’re overwhelmed. And if you do find that kind of deal, it’s smart to deal him, not “cheap.” simply because of the added payroll flexibility provided in 2020.

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      • Polish Hammer

        6 years ago

        Very well stated!

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      • bencole

        6 years ago

        Yeah but you haven’t won a World Series in forever. You spend whatever it takes to do it. Outspend everyone if it’s the answer. It isn’t always the answer, but trading Bauer will only bring you closer to a World Series because of your own spending restraints.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          Outspending guarantees you ZERO! They could spend $200mil every year on payroll like the Yanks and Sox who are guaranteed nothing and both have to hope to win the division or at least a one game WC game.

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        • Avory

          6 years ago

          ‘Zackly. Would I rather have an ownership who throws money at Eric Hosmer and Manny Machado or one smart enough not to do that? The answer is obvious.

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      • Deleted Userrrrr

        6 years ago

        Cleveland can’t trade Bauer at this point. To trade Bauer would be to burn it down and start from scratch. They aren’t going that with them being 1 game back of the Twins for the division lead.

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        • Avory

          6 years ago

          Oh yeah, the guy is superman. We can’t possibly win without him. Oh wait, we beat the Royals three straight until Bauer took the mound. Listen, the kid is good, but for crying out loud, he’s not as good as Cory Kluber or Carlos Carrasco when they’re at their best. Trevor has never been as efficient or dominant as those guys, and you can make the argument that Clevinger and Bieber are probably better now. Trading Bauer does not mean the Tribe is starting from scratch…that’s absurd.

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        • Deleted Userrrrr

          6 years ago

          Tribe is going to need more than just Clevinger and Bieber to actually go far in the playoffs. And there’s always a chance that they get injured or struggle. No team that is serious about contending and has a pitcher with Bauer’s stats would ever consider trading him.

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  15. coldbeer

    6 years ago

    This is smoke and mirrors to try to deteriorate the Jays control over the pitching supply market this deadline.

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  16. bestno5

    6 years ago

    If they trade Bauer now the team would be so upset and it would mess with their mojo unless they get Judge which isn’t happening

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      And why would they target Judge?

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      • Chasefor28

        6 years ago

        Are you really trying to say they wouldn’t trade Bauer for Aaron Judge? Lmao.

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        • gson

          6 years ago

          He said the Indians wouldn’t “target” judge.. perhaps due to:

          -not an exclusive one for one deal..
          -not available..
          -unbalanced trade..

          Thoughts?

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          Are you really saying Judge is a player they would waste the time to think up a trade scenario today? Just not going to happen for a multitude of reasons. If they trade with the Yankees they’ll get an OF, a kid lik3 Frazier and not Judge. Lmao genius…

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  17. MasterShake

    6 years ago

    Going to post this from today until everyday of the deadline lolPhilthies! Buried, beaten, that’s one year gone of the 13 year marriage contract the club signed with the “less than wonder” boy. Gotta love it!!!

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    • cakirby

      6 years ago

      I don’t understand what a single word of this means.

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      • SuperSinker

        6 years ago

        Something about Bryce Harper and his 13 year contract. That’s all I could decipher

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    • lsujedi

      6 years ago

      WTF is this?

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    • bencole

      6 years ago

      Yay alcohol

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  18. cakirby

    6 years ago

    Another part that makes this weird is that they likely don’t want to deal him to anyone in the AL Wild Card race either, since they probably wouldn’t want to have to face him in a Wild Card game. Severely limits their options. I’d bet they’ll have to wait for the offseason.

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    • lsujedi

      6 years ago

      Not sure about that. If they trade him, they’re not concerned about making the playoffs this year.

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      • Avory

        6 years ago

        Nonsense. They lost Kluber, Carrasco, and Clevinger and that didn’t close off the playoffs to them, why would losing Bauer? It’s not like he’s superman, you know. With Clevinger back and pitching at a high level, and Kluber, Carrasco, and Salazar slated to make contributions down the stretch PLUS anything they’d get back in a Bauer deal (presumably lineup help, maybe bullpen too) why is the calculation they’d be running up a white flag? That’s just plain silly.

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        • lsujedi

          6 years ago

          Not saying necessarily that they won’t sneak in, but if they choose to trade him this season they are not trying to make a deep playoff run. No one competes for the playoffs to get eliminated in the division series.

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        • Avory

          6 years ago

          No one knows what can happen in the playoffs, Nostradamus. Or did you forget 2016? Extending your logic to a reasonable conclusion, it’s silly to even try and make the playoffs at all, seeing as how only one team can win. Why, it’s not even worth trying with those odds. The truth is, everyone knows anything can happen in baseball. The game is designed around random chance and a healthy dose of luck. MLB postseason may not be the Stanley Cup playoffs, but it’s the next best thing if you crave uncertainty and surprises. The real irony is that all the cynics never gave the Tribe much of a chance at winning it all anyway, now all the handwringers are suddenly wailing that trading Bauer “kills their chances.” So, which is it?

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        • lsujedi

          6 years ago

          Please try to understand what I am saying. I’m not saying anything about their chances after said trade. I’m saying that an organization that chooses to trade a player of his caliber during the season, especially given their other injuries and illnesses at that position, does not have simultaneously the goal of going deep into the playoffs. Sure they could, but whatever they get in return will not help them reach that goal more than Bauer would have this season, ergo they are not acting in pursuit of a deep playoff run this season.

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        • indiansfan44

          6 years ago

          That is the problem that a lot of people have when evaluating the situation. Yes you are giving up a pitcher that would easily be at least the #2 if not #1 on a lot of teams if you trade him but you only make the trade if it helps you have a better shot at going deep in the playoffs. When you break down the roster they have a veteran core that has been to the playoffs before around the infield. If Jose is really back and Kipnis continues to hit like he has then that gives you 5 good hitters. But those are big ifs. The outfield is made up of Naquin who has injury issues and 3 rookies. Freeman has done well in a utility role but it is his first real opportunity as well. Adding a bat that can be your DH or play outfield would help the lineup a lot. I still don’t believe that we have enough offense to be a real threat as we are now.

          The pen has done really well too but how many of those guys can you honestly say you want in a 1 run game in the 6th inning of an elimination game? Adding a guy who could help bridge to Hand and even take a few of the games he would normally pitch so he isn’t worked as much would go a long way.

          Sure this can be done making a couple of trades sending prospects out if the right players on non-contenders are made available and you keep Bauer for now. But we don’t know if those deals are out there and what they would cost us. But as the deadline gets closer and some of the other pitchers come off the market a team might get desperate where you could address the first need moving him as well as getting a couple of high level prospects that could be used as depth this year in case of injury and be guys that make the 2020 roster as everyday players or in the rotation. Then you add to the pen with another trade and it could be worth it. I don’t want Bauer to be traded but if it came down to a choice of moving him to improve the offense and hoping that 1 of the 3 guys coming back can step into his spot or riding out the year with the team we have I would hope they seriously consider the trade.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          Sneak in? Have you seen their place in the standings and how they’ve played the past two months? That’s not sneaking in!

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          And just because they might trade him doesn’t mean they don’t plan on making a run. You can deal from depth to fill holes and still not miss a beat. They’ve gotten phenomenal pitching from some of the guys and if this trade brings back a big bat to plug in the lineup they could be better served in a playoff series.

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        • Floopjack

          6 years ago

          LOL @ Salazar

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        • lsujedi

          6 years ago

          I think the disconnect is that you think they’re trading for bonafide established major leaguers, and while that’s possible, it seems unlikely. Prospects, even near-MLB ones, seem more likely, given that whoever trades for him is going to be a contender, and likely not keen on giving up their own contributors in the deal.
          And sneak in because they’re in WC position now and after your trade will be without one of the main guys that has gotten them there.

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        • Vandals Took The Handles

          6 years ago

          The only rookie the Indians have in the OF is Mercado.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          If, a big IF, they trade this week it will have to be for an MLB contributor. Teams can trade from depth to another team with depth at their holes, Yankees need SP and have spare OF (Frazier), and what each team receives helps their need more than the loss of what they give up and everyone slides up on slot in their absence.

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        • Avory

          6 years ago

          Very fairly and well-stated, indiansfan44.

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  19. lsujedi

    6 years ago

    CLE can keep him. His being-a-jerk issues downgrade what is already an inflated value. He’s not a #1 or #2 on a contending team, and no #3 is worth the headache.

    Stros fan fwiw

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    • gson

      6 years ago

      perhaps you might add an adjective to being a Stros fan.. How about:

      -clueless?
      -uninformed?
      -inept?

      all three?

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      Thanks Mike Francesa!

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  20. MasterShake

    6 years ago

    I saw some chump tonight said the Braves paid Albies $20 for his effort. Dude. You’re broke, you have no other in-roads to big money, you’re best friend just signed for the same amount of years. You aren’t as good as him, but you want to cash out high! These anti-Braves are the absolute worst.

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  21. MasterShake

    6 years ago

    And our team is in first. So suck it! Losers!!

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  22. EndinStealth

    6 years ago

    August 1st Bauer will be an Indian.

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  23. AndreTheGiantKiller

    6 years ago

    Shane Bieber isn’t a rookie

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  24. Domingo111

    6 years ago

    Really an unnecessary article. There is a zero percent chance bauer gets traded now. If they would have continued to lose it might have happened but no way an owner allows to trade your ace while you are just a game or two back. If he did he would lose tons of money because fans would not come to the stadium anymore, in fact even now they have attendance problems.

    Bauer might be traded this off season but certainly not now, there is a 0 percent chance he gets traded this deadline.

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      Lose tons of money because the fans wouldn’t come to the stadium anymore? Have you paid attention to their attendance numbers? It’s already low and I doubt a big enough drop off to lose a fortune, and they would only deal him if it improved the current team today. They wouldn’t be punting in the season, they’d be trading from depth to fill a need.

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      • lsujedi

        6 years ago

        What contender is going to give up MLB contributors for Bauer if they’re trying to get better for a postseason run? One of those contenders with an extra all-star DH that they don’t need for the playoffs? Which one were you thinking of?

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        • jbs32

          6 years ago

          Only way I see something like that working is if Bauer goes to a rebuilding club with the right pieces for the Indians, who then flip Bauer to another contender for prospects. All in all trading Bauer while simultaneously trying to improve the current team doesn’t really make sense

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  25. Domingo111

    6 years ago

    Really an unnecessary article. There is a zero percent chance bauer gets traded now. If they would have continued to lose it might have happened but no way an owner allows to trade your ace while you are just a game or two back. If he did he would lose tons of money because fans would not come to the stadium anymore, in fact even now they have attendance problems.

    Bauer might be traded this off season but certainly not now, there is a 0 percent chance he gets traded this deadline.

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  26. Floopjack

    6 years ago

    Watch them trade Kluber in the off-season, keep Bauer and prove all of this nonsense wrong.

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  27. tiredolddude

    6 years ago

    MLB Trade Rumors needs to add a built in disclaimer that simply states “The Yankees are interested in _____________, too”
    Until MLB evens the playing field and puts all teams on equal financial footing where personnel is concerned, it will be a sport built only for the contention of big market teams.
    No thanks

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    • PopeMarley

      6 years ago

      Well said, and this is coming from a Yankees fan.

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      Exactly, a salary cap with just as importantly a salary floor.

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  28. carlos15

    6 years ago

    Why would a team 20 games over .500 trade their top starter? These rumors are getting dumber all the time.

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  29. 66TheNumberOfTheBest

    6 years ago

    Weird, you don’t ever hear about big market teams considering trading their best players in the middle of playoff contention.

    But, something, something, Tom Brady’s won all the Super Bowls, something, something, more parity in baseball, something, something.

    Small market teams are AAAA window dressing in MLB.

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  30. Backatitagain

    6 years ago

    If anyone is interested in a three-way where everyone is satisfied:

    Toronto sends Marcus Stroman to the Indians and Ken Giles to the Braves; Cleveland sends Trevor Bauer and Tyler Olson to the Braves; Atlanta sends Bryse Wolson to the Indians; Atlanta sends Kyle Wright and David “Touki” Toussaint to the Blue Jays.

    Indians swap Bauer (1.5-39.2) and Olson (5.5-6.1) for Marcus Stroman (1.5-28.4) and Bryse Wilson (6.0-17.4). Blue Jays swap Stroman and Giles (1.5-10.3) for Kyle Wright (6.0-23.5) and Touki Toussaint (5.5-15.5). Braves swap Wright, Wilson and Toussaint for Trevor Bauer (1.5), Tyler Olson (5.5) and Ken Giles (1.5). (years-Value)

    Indians gain a controllable young starter in Bryce Wilson and Replace Bauer with Stroman. Blue Jays move two lease players for two young starters with 6 years each. Brave lose prospects but bolster bullpen with Giles and Olson and the rotation with Bauer.

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      Just stop, Cleveland is not taking Stroman. Padres fans come up with the ridiculous scenarios with Braves fans right behind.

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      • Backatitagain

        6 years ago

        You must be the GM, thanks for responding.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          And just because that trade works for your 3rd place fantasy baseball team means it will work in the real world.

          Reply
  31. TribeFan4Ever

    6 years ago

    The A.L. Central creates an illusion that a team is capable of winning a WS title. With or without Bauer, this team isn’t beating the Yankees, Astros or Red Sox. On any given day this lineup can make an AAAA pitcher look like Cy Young. The window closed in ’17 and the Tribe needs to unload Bauer for some young, controllable MLB ready outfielders.

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    • hockeyjohn

      6 years ago

      The Playoffs in any season is a crapshoot. When you have good pitching, you have a chance to win. I do not agree with you that the Indians window is closed.

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      • The Einheri

        6 years ago

        Indians could easily make the playoffs, and anyone in the playoffs could win, especially if they have someone like Bauer on the team. Trade Bauer in the off season if you have to trade him.

        Or trade Bauer now for a bag of baseballs to the Twins if you’re so intent on having the Indians lose.

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    • sufferforsnakes

      6 years ago

      TribeFan4Ever? That comment sure is in contrast to your name. Maybe you should root for some other team. Tribe doesn’t need fans like you.

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  32. fitsiqis65

    6 years ago

    he may get traded. Cleveland is innovative, creative, and not risk adverse. However, it won’t be to the Yankees, whose GM is the exact opposite. Honestly, Bauer will cost too much for cash’s blood and despite an offense and pen WS ready won’t pay the price to support them.

    I will say it again. Good starting pitching costs a fortune in dollars on the FA market and in talent on the trade market. There is no overpay. That is the price.

    Not that cash would do it but it will cost Frazier plus plus plus to get someone better than the #4 SPs we already have.

    Bargains are hard to find and you get what you pay for.

    #cashmustgo

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  33. losbravos 2

    6 years ago

    I could see the braves including Kevin Gausman or Julio Tehran in the deal to the Indians to provided immediate help to their starting rotation if they trade bauer. Although its a downgrade, Tehran has been pretty good this year and Gausman looks like he is trendy in the right direction.

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    • Vandals Took The Handles

      6 years ago

      Oftentimes MLBTR resembles The Onion.

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      • losbravos 2

        6 years ago

        It says include. Obviously the braves are gonna send prospects over for bauer. Potentially pache, wright, gausman for bauer.

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        • sufferforsnakes

          6 years ago

          Right now….I’d take that deal.

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  34. Louiebeans

    6 years ago

    The 31st is Wednesday us Yankee fans are waiting for an excuse on how nobody was worth it. Or better yet we’re waiting on someone else piece of garbage Sonny Gray 2.0

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    • fitsiqis65

      6 years ago

      there is little chance the yanks do anything meaningful again… they have also devalued their 2 main trade chips adujar and frazier…

      funny how people forget that we could have had cole for adujar but that was cost prohibitive……

      #cashmustgo

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  35. basquiat

    6 years ago

    I don’t see Bauer going to the Braves. When you are a Brave, you play the Braves way, not Trevor’s way. The Braves won’t tolerate the unprofessional behavior of injuring your pitching hand playing with a drone so you can’t pitch in the playoffs.

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    • ATLbravos

      6 years ago

      or chunking a ball over the outfield fence bc your getting hit hard!!!

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  36. baji kimran

    6 years ago

    The Indians “surge” has been fueled by a run of playing 33 of 40 games against teams either in last place or on a pace to lose 100 games. That run ends with today’s game against the Royals. So far the Indians are 26-6 against the lesser teams who are basically collections of rookies (like Toronto) or players who belong in AAA, like Detroit, whom the Indians have gone 10-0 against during this run. Starting tomorrow, the big boys are coming back. The tribe’s schedule over the next 3 weeks includes the Yankees, Red Sox, Twins and Astros. The only two series the Indians had with contending teams during this run were a split with the Rangers in a 4 game series and losing two of three to the Twins. The way the Indians are dumping salary these days, they look like they’re headed for a Tampa Bay type business model where players are purged before they have to pay the big money. The old trick of signing players to extensions in exchange for buying up their arbitration years is no longer working as players aren’t buying into it, especially after seeing the big money Machado and Harper got this past off season. Francisco Lindor will be the next to go.

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    • Backatitagain

      6 years ago

      Do not know that much about the Indians except that they win a lot of games. Since Machado and Harper signed, Ronald Acuna signed extension of 10 years $124 Million and Albies signed for 7 years $35 Million. Jose Ramirez seems to have tailed off a bit this year.

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      • Polish Hammer

        6 years ago

        You must not have paid attention to what he’s done the past month or so, thanks for responding.

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        • baji kimran

          6 years ago

          Ramirez got fat off bad team like the Tigers, Royals, Blue Jays and Orioles the last month. Stop listening to Tom Hamilton and Bruce Drennan. They are Cleveland apologist.

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      Fair enough, they’ve only played who was on the schedule. But they have the Yanks (2-1), Sox (2-1 @Boston), Astros 2-2 @ Houston) and Minny (4-5 w/ 6@Minny) coming up on the schedule. So that’s 10-9 against the big boys with 13 of them on the road. Next time take the 90 seconds it took me to research this and you’d wouldn’t come off as such an uniformed fool.

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      • baji kimran

        6 years ago

        You mean like when the Indians swept the Yankees with less then a month to go in the 2017 season, in New York no less, the just a few weeks later choked against them in the playoffs, losing three straight? The Indians always choke. It’s in their DNA. 1999 up 2-0 on Boston and lose three straight. 2007 up 3-1 on Boston and lose three straight. 2016 up 3-1 on the Cubs and lose three straight. 2017 up 2-0 on the Yankees and lose three straight. Are you noticing a pattern? With all the rebuilding teams in the AL (5 teams could lose 1000 games) baseball is a mess that needs fixing. If they can’t control player salaries then they need to balance the schedule. Eliminate the divisions (nobody cares about divisions) and have everyone play the same schedule. If they’re all playing for the same playoff spots, then they should all play the same schedule. The Indians begged out of the AL East 25 years ago, a division they played in for 25 years and only finished higher than fourth once.

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        • Avory

          6 years ago

          You must be another bitter, self-loathing Clevelander. No one else speaks like that.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          Ok genius, you cite this season and when it’s pointed out you’re ridiculously wrong you want to go back to 1999. Not everybody has the checkbook the Yankees have had.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          PS: the AL East has been so dominant they’ve won the ALCS twice in the past 10 years. Definitely worth those absurd payrolls.

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        • baji kimran

          6 years ago

          Next time you’re at the beach, pick up a random sea shell and hold it up to your ear. You know what that sound is? It’s the sound of Cleveland fans crying over all the World Series the Yankees won between 1996 and 2000. You know, the ones they THOUGHT Cleveland was going to win.

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        • Polish Hammer

          6 years ago

          And your the kid born in 2000 and taking credit for the first 25 titles. Given what they’ve spent since that time they should’ve won another dozen or so.

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  37. TribeGuy 2

    6 years ago

    Bauer is terrible and honestly has hurt us for years. He is a selfish player and gets into his own head. Trading him would honestly help us this year and in the future.

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    • hockeyjohn

      6 years ago

      I don’t agree with your comment. He has done a lot to help our younger pitchers – Clevinger, Bieber, and Plesac. Yes, he is unique. Yes, he out thinks himself. But he also works harder than most pitchers that I have seen.

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      I agree somewhat with you. I think they’ve kept things in house so long they’d be relieved to see him elsewhere. Arizona took him 3rd overall and couldn’t rid themselves of him soon enough; Cleveland has embraced his quirkiness and allowed him to develop but it’s been a lot of work behind the scenes. What plagued him early was his refusal to be coached and he threw too many pitches. It took a couple of years and statistics to prove to him what pitches were and weren’t working. Thank you for your time in Tribe town, good luck elsewhere!

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      • Vandals Took The Handles

        6 years ago

        He got bombed today, and has done that a bit lately.

        He has some wonderful games, but is not consistent enough to be an ace or even a #2 starter.

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        • sufferforsnakes

          6 years ago

          Bombed? The defense behind him played like s#&@!!

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  38. whyhayzee

    6 years ago

    yankees need this guy NOW. He’ll fire baseballs into the monuments every time they take him out. In other words, every game he pitches. Trade at least judge, stanton and sanchez and cc beans. Toss in chapman and gardner and you consolidated all of the annoying fools into one tidy package.

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  39. sufferforsnakes

    6 years ago

    Yeah, Trevor’s behavior today puts all my thoughts on hold now.

    But our defense also deserves a swift kick in the tail, too.

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    • Vandals Took The Handles

      6 years ago

      The Indians are not one or two transactions away from the World Series.

      They need more quality young position players like Mercado. Bauer can help get them, as can Hand.

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      • Polish Hammer

        6 years ago

        No way they trade Bauer and Hand this week. The bullpen has been great but without Hand they have no closer in waiting, not even a setup man you trust in crunch time despite the good results.

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      • sufferforsnakes

        6 years ago

        Make the playoffs and everyone has the same record to start.

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      I used to be a big supporter of him, but as the past year has unfolded that has faded. Then the whole SI article made me realize he should’ve been dealt by now while the value was still there.

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      • Dennid

        6 years ago

        I’m the same. He’s starting to wear out his welcome.

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  40. Jonathan Oldham

    6 years ago

    How about Trevor Bauer for Seth Beer and Jake Marisnick? Get this guy off of my team now. Marisnick helps now and Beer is a year away.

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      Marisnick is not much better than the platoon they’ve been using and I doubt they’d deal with Houston.

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  41. IndiansSpy

    6 years ago

    As I mentioned Bauer is the Indians 5th best starter

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    • Polish Hammer

      6 years ago

      …in the past 15 years.

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      • IndiansSpy

        6 years ago

        currently

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        • sufferforsnakes

          6 years ago

          You’ve gone from not funny to extremely delusional.

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        • Dennid

          6 years ago

          Well what do you expect when his nickname sounds like one of those RVs, the Reno Deluxe.

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  42. Atlbravesmania

    6 years ago

    this if it would be perfect for atlanta, that if available because if it is not changed to 2 super SP .. forget that they can beat the dodgers. which is the team to beat in the national league. If we go to the playoffs with the openers we have and it is not taken advantage of and changes are made so that we can not only win the division but also be serious contenders to face the Dodgers. forget it It will happen to us like last year.

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