The Padres have already moved on from skipper Andy Green, whereas Ned Yost has announced that this’ll be his final year managing the Royals. There’s been some recent chatter surrounding the fate of Pirates manager Clint Hurdle, as well, which stemmed largely from none other than Hurdle himself. It’s the time of year that’s typically filled with managerial/coaching/front office turnover, and there won’t be any shortage of rumblings on that front over the next several days. Here’s some of the latest from that arena…
- Although Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic recently suggested that the Angels would “consider” moving on from Brad Ausmus after just one season in order to pursue Joe Maddon (should he become available, as many expect), Maria Torres of the Los Angeles Times writes in her latest Angels mailbag column that Ausmus is will be back in 2020. Torres adds that she’s received no indication that any members of the coaching staff are in particular danger of being replaced, either. Ausmus is signed through the 2021 season under a three-year contract he agreed upon just last offseason.
- The Mets’ second-half Wild Card push fell short but was enough to at least raise speculation about Mickey Callaway surviving the offseason and returning for a third year. Nevertheless, SNY’s Andy Martino writes that multiple people connected to the team will still be surprised if Callaway is retained after the season. New York won’t make any final announcement on the matter until after the season has wrapped up, however, and team decision-makers are expected to discuss the manager’s future into early next week. Callaway himself campaigned a bit for his job prior to last night’s loss, per Mike Puma of the New York Post, telling the Mets beat: “I think a manager’s job is to get guys going in a direction and I think these guys never wavered from that, so I am definitely proud about that. … I understand the rigors of the job and I try to deal with it the best I can and try to stay even-keeled for the organization’s sake and for our players’ sake.”
- There’s been speculation that Bruce Bochy could pursue other managerial jobs once he steps away from the Giants — some from his own players, even — and the future Hall of Famer discussed that speculation with John Shea of the San Francisco Chronicle this week. While Bochy doesn’t have any immediate plans to seek out other opportunities, he conceded that there’s no telling what the future holds. “Later on, when you get away from the game, who knows how you’ll react?” Bochy asked rhetorically. “I’m good with my call. I’d be lying if I didn’t say it’s been tough here at the end of the season realizing it’s ending. No, I’m fine with it. I can’t tell you what’s going to happen in the future because I don’t know.”
Hire a retread, fire a retread.
Not sure I would call a HOF manager (Bochy) and a rookie manager (Callaway) “retreads”.
Why did you automatically go to bochy and callaway?
It could easily be Ausmus and maddon and more than likely is.
So Maddon is a “retread”??? Three time Manager of the Year!! Two pennants with one WS win!!! A lifetime .540 winning percentage (that’s an overall average of 88 wins a year and 93.8 average with the Cubs!)!!! Four division titles in 14 years of full year managing!!! He did all that with a notoriously cheap small market team in Tampa Bay and the lovable loser 108 years without a WS win Cubs!!! He’s a potential HOF manager!!! Certainly NOT a retread!!! You show a total lack of baseball knowledge with that uninitiated statement!!!
The article specifically is about 3 managers; I made points about 2 of them. Of course I “autmatically” went to them. I have no problem calling Ausmus a retread.
And Ikky, he did a great job the last few years developing their young talent in Chicago. NOT.
As well Ikky madden did a great job down the stretch getting the players to pull out all stops down the stretch to make the post season. Oh, NOT as well.
He’s worn out his welcome in Chicago. The team doesn’t respond to all of his zany ideas. He will find another job, though his last job will be his best job.
There are too many young managers in the wings that can lead young players for a lot less money.
Masson is this years Girardi.
Is Calloway a rookie if he’s been doing it for 3 years?
Actually 2 season 2017 and 2018. Collins was manager in 2017
Rookie manager as it’s his first managerial job. He can’t be a retread if it’s his first job.
Yea I’m not gonna argue about the meaning of the word rookie, but that’s not it.
I’ll take Maddon over Ausmus any day. However, if the Angels get quality pitching and get to the playoffs Ausmus wouldn’t go anywhere
It’s sorta been implied that Clint Hurdle will be retained by the Pirates. No official announcement yet.
Yeah, by Hurdle; front office is mum.
The problem is that Hurdle himself implied it but the front office hasn’t (won’t?) confirm it. He may have made a big mistake by making that statement.
Nah they are just posturing. They want to make it appear that they are going to do a thorough organizational evaluation as GMNH claimed needed to be done. In the end Searage will be the only one to go.
The Angels organization led by Arte is not in the business of winning.
He’s always been in the business of self promotion so he could increase the value of the Real estate holdings in Anaheim, for his profit.
I understand it’s a brutal business, but Arte lack of baseball knownledge has destroyed the franchise.
Th Angels should absolutely go for Joe Maddon, the fact that they’re hesitate about dumping a limp fish in Assumus, hints to me they’re not too serious about bringing in real talen around trout.
This organization will be knee deep in cement for as lon as Arte running the show and has no inclination or intention to make a championship caliber roster.
I only fear this is just the beginning of a decades of terrible ball.
I’ve met already on more than a handful of occasions and he’s always been a very involved owner, especially with the fans. The majority of the conversation I’ve heard him have with fans are along the lines of, how do you like the team? And, what do you think we should do in free agency?
I would hardly say he’s just in it for the business side. Like I said, I’ve met him quite a few times and had conversations with them. He’s very competitive and wants to win.
The angels farm system is as healthy as it’s been in the past 5 to 8 years and things are definitely looking up for them. Health permitting of course like any other club.
Arte, not already.
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That’s ridiculous. Arte made one big mistake and that was forgoing the farm system in favor of adding big contracts attached to superstars. That has a long term effect that takes years sometimes to recover from, because no matter a team’s payroll, all organizations have to rebuild their farm systems to compete. That’s what they’ve been doing for the past 4 years since hiring Billy Eppler. 10 years ago, Angels fans begged for big bats and they got them. The fan base never realized the consequences of that, but act like they did after the fact. The priority over the past 4 years has been rebuilding the farm system and locking up Trout. They will probably be a lock for postseason contention in 2021, and maybe 2020 if they successfully attack the starting pitching market. Until then, I have not expected them to be shoe-in contenders since 2016 because it was obvious the farm system needed to be rebuilt. Yankees, Dodgers, Red Sox, Astros all had to go through it. So do the Angels.
And Arte has learned from his mistakes of being too involved and going over his GM’s head for big splashes, like Josh Hamilton and Albert Pujols. He knows to just let the baseball people do the baseball stuff now.
Show Me Your Tatis
Angels won’t make the playoffs again until after Trout is gone.
Please, Mets, fire Callaway. Please, please, Tigers, hire him as your next pitching coach. (Rick Anderson has done a fine job, but he didn’t really want the job until Chris Bosio was forced out last year.)
My biggest problem is with all the so called experts who pontificate on who should be fired.
They think running a baseball team is the same as running a fantasy team. With players making far more money, in most cases, than the manager, it puts managers in a far more difficult position than the Billy Martin types.
In today’s game a managers main job is keeping 25 guys moving toward a common objective. Smoothing over potential distractions.
In the case of Mickey Callaway, I laugh when I read where experts say he doesn’t know what he is doing with pitchers. After all he made his chops with arguably the best staff in baseball ( Indians ). Thus I think he knows a bit about pitching.
The team played hard all season even after a sup par first half and many painful bull pen blow ups. Young players, Alonso, McNeil, Rosario and Davis established themselves as solid major leaguers.
In real life the manager seeks to provide the culture that enables the team to produce the above results.
A manager can only put players in a position where they can succeed but ultimately it is up to each player to do the job.
From the side lines we all think we are experts at what moves a manager should make, this is what makes baseball a great sport. But Ultimately the only move that is correct is the one that works.
I think the real issue determining his fate will be how well management thinks he did behind the scenes.
Guessing you didn’t watch many games. He’d pull guys on a roll with a low pitch count one day, then the next day he’d send a guy back out when even the broadcast crew noted he was clearly pitching on fumes the inning before.
What’s his excuse for continuously sticking with Diaz as his closer? You laugh when you think about his Indians rotation, but what pitchers benefitted from him coming here? Jake is the only one that showed anything. Matz, Wheeler, Thor, the entire bullpen…
Guy has literally zero concept of how to manage a bullpen. Has zero concept substituting players for hitting or fielding. Doesn’t seem to grasp where to actually put players to succeed in their natural positions. Doesn’t know how to put players in the right batting order based on their skill sets.
Guy is just completely clueless as a manager.
@Parkers exceedingly well said.
Bochy doesn’t sound like he’s done.
Eppler the “ Genius” moving on from Ausmus after a year? Wow what next an reunion with the Dark Knight and a few other has been pitchers?
Ausmus is Eppler’s guy because he follows Eppler’s demands for all analytics all the time. Ausmus is terrible at handling the pitching staff, even though he had to deal with numerous injuries to Ohtani, Heaney, and the ridiculous signings by Eppler. My biggest knock against Ausmus is his lack of emotion, he does nothing during the game to inspire the team. The Angels played very uninspiring ball all season.
If Eppler decides to bring back Ausmus it may be the last year for both in 2020.
agreed, pretty hard to spin a 90 loss season
planned rebuild in 1 season
I don’t believe Bochy will work for Preller. Maddon might not…depends on his alternatives. The punk meddles…green never verbalized but he will someday.
Bochy should go back and manager the Padres, again..
Manny, Hosmer, Tatis Jr and the #1 Farm System in MLB with an absolutely loaded pipeline of talent.
Bochy could spend half the season at home sleeping in his own bed and draw a very large salary….
And still 3 years at minimum from winning. Does he want to wait that long?
If I were a betting man I’d wager that Bruce Bochy will manage the up and coming Padres in 2020. He will return to the team he managed for 12 seasons prior to his championship run with the Giants. Bochy has had health issues but he will satisfy his itch to keep managing and return to the Padres where he can commute to work from his San Diego County residence in Poway, California.
As for the Mets, I’d wager they will move on from Mickey Callaway when the Cubs officially let Joe Maddon know they will not offer him a contract extension early next week as his current deal expires. Maddon will take his ego to the bright lights of New York where he can show that he is the second coming of Casey Stengel and the Mets will be more than happy to oblige him.
I’m also guessing that Brad Ausmus keeps his gig with the Angels.
Show Me Your Tatis
Bochy is done.
the Angels are going to end up with 90 losses……enough said
so what? astros were much worse during their rebuild. it was a pre-planned 1 year reconstruction.
Bochy to the Cubs
John Gibbons is the best manager out of work, he will fight anyone who says different
Sun Devil 17
I could see the Padres telling Bochy, “The job is yours if you want it.”
Why are my comments in moderation?
Replying to nymetskying
I watched almost every game this year, and the three know it alls in the booth are examples of side line experts. Keith was reportedly known as a clubhouse lawyer and Ron exposed his lack of character in his book.
It’s easy to micro manage in the booth, realizing that anything they say will have no effect on the game. A lot easier to second guess the manager who’s decisions do have results.
But of course everyone knows exactly what move should be made, where a career baseball man doesn’t.
Reminder: Only the move that works is correct
Of course people like Gary,Keith and Ron know exactly which ones will work because after all Gary has been broadcasting forever.
I am not ranking on the idea of fans having differing opinions but on the attitude that what I say is absolutely right.
ron, the narcissist, darling is the worst. he is against anything angels!
Keith Hernandez has forgotten more about baseball than Mickey Callaway has ever known!!! Gary Cohen has voiced what the manager should do in game before Callaway does it & Gary was right MORE than Callaway!!! Btw, they are the best, most knowledgeable booth in baseball!! Get a clue.
Replying to AaronSopaznik:
I was a big Tampa Rays fan while Madden was there. He is very unconventional with his best work in providing a player friendly envirement both in the clubhouse and on the field.
He brought a snake into the Rays clubhouse.
If you didn’t like the lineups the Met’s used this year you will be driven mad with his.
He is all about analytics, being the current father of the extreme position extreme shifts.
Callaway has to go!! He singlehandedly lost multiple games for us with his in game decisions & handling of the bullpen this season. At times he appears clueless. He was hired by Sandy Alderson & I would think GM Brodie Van Wagenen would want to hire his own manager.