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Offseason Outlook: Los Angeles Angels

By Connor Byrne | October 26, 2019 at 1:05am CDT

Once again, the Angels are coming off a season in which they failed to capitalize on the presence of baseball’s best player, Mike Trout. The Angels, who have gone to the playoffs just once since Trout’s major league introduction in 2011, stumbled to a dismal 72-90 record this year. In fairness, though, the club dealt with adversity that would have been difficult for anyone to overcome. There were myriad injuries (including to the likes of Trout, Shohei Ohtani and Justin Upton), but worse than anything, there was the death of left-hander Tyler Skaggs. A beloved teammate and integral member of the Angels’ rotation, Skaggs passed away July 1, and the Angels never recovered on the field.

The Angels fell way out of contention in the second half of the season, which cost manager Brad Ausmus his job after just one year in the role. They quickly replaced Ausmus with the highly respected and accomplished Joe Maddon, a perennial winner who they hope will help turn their fortunes around in 2020. If not, general manager Billy Eppler could be the next key member of the organization who finds himself on the chopping block. Now on the verge of a contract year, Eppler’s likely facing a make-or-break offseason – one that could see the Angels make an earnest attempt to finally return to the playoffs.

Guaranteed Contracts

  • Mike Trout, CF: $390.5MM through 2030
  • Justin Upton, LF: $72MM through 2022
  • Albert Pujols, 1B/DH: $59MM through 2021
  • Andrelton Simmons, SS: $15MM through 2020
  • Zack Cozart, INF: $12.67MM through 2020

Arbitration-Eligible Players (projections via Matt Swartz)

  • Tommy La Stella – $2.9MM
  • Luis Garcia – $2.3MM
  • Justin Bour – $2.9MM
  • Cam Bedrosian – $2.8MM
  • Andrew Heaney – $5.0MM
  • Hansel Robles – $4.0MM
  • Nick Tropeano – $1.1MM
  • Max Stassi – $800K
  • Kevan Smith – $1.3MM
  • Brian Goodwin – $2.1MM
  • Keynan Middleton – $800K
  • Noe Ramirez – $1.0MM
  • Non-tender candidates: Garcia, Bour, Tropeano, Stassi

Option Decisions

  • Kole Calhoun, RF: $14MM club option or $1MM buyout

Free Agents

  • Trevor Cahill, JC Ramirez

Odds are quite good the Angels’ winter will largely center on acquiring starting pitching, as their rotation has regularly been a below-average unit in recent years. It was especially bad in 2019 (thanks in part to the loss of Skaggs), evidenced by the group’s 30th-place ranking in fWAR and 29th overall ERA. The return of Ohtani, who was unable to pitch at all this year after undergoing Tommy John surgery last October, could be like a major acquisition in and of itself. But it would be foolhardy to count on Ohtani as the end-all, be-all, given that he’s coming off two surgeries (including a September knee procedure) and barely has 50 MLB innings to his name.

If he’s actually healthy, Ohtani may be able to provide the Angels’ rotation front-line production, though the rest of their options look decidedly less promising. Andrew Heaney and Griffin Canning appear to be fine complementary pieces, but the Halos need to aim higher if they’re going to force their way into the playoff race next season. What can they do? The answer’s obvious: Either sign Astros superstar and potential AL Cy Young winner Gerrit Cole or, if he opts out of his Nationals contract, Stephen Strasburg.

Cole and Strasburg stand out as the crown jewels of the upcoming winter’s free-agent pitching class, both are Southern California natives and the Angels have the spending capacity to reel in either. Super-agent Scott Boras represents Cole and Strasburg, which could theoretically serve as a roadblock for an Angels team whose owner, Arte Moreno, has had beef with Boras in the past. However, the Angels are just a winter removed from adding a Boras client, Matt Harvey, as their largest offseason signing. Harvey cost “only” a guaranteed $11MM, granted, while Cole may be on his way to a record contract for a pitcher (at least $220MM, if not significantly higher), and Strasburg should be able to secure something close to $150MM.

However much Cole and Strasburg end up raking in, it would make sense for the Angels to go all-in on one of the two. Deciding to buy low on the likes of Harvey and Trevor Cahill while tiptoeing around the Patrick Corbin market a year ago blew up in the team’s face. Now, it’s all the more evident the Angels need an ace-caliber hurler to join Ohtani near the top of their rotation, and either Cole or Strasburg would fit the bill.

Let’s say the Angels do get Cole or Strasburg. Then what? Well, they’d still need at least one more quality veteran starter. Zack Wheeler, Madison Bumgarner, Hyun-Jin Ryu and Jake Odorizzi are the best of the rest, though each should command paydays of at least $50MM. In all likelihood, any of them would be too pricey for a team with Cole or Strasburg in tow. However, they’d still be able to pick up less expensive help. Competent innings have been hard to come by in recent years for an Angels club that injuries have consistently ravaged, so someone like Dallas Keuchel (if he again encounters a disappointing market), Cole Hamels (if he has to settle for a lesser deal than expected), Rick Porcello, Tanner Roark, Kyle Gibson or Julio Teheran (likely via trade) could make sense as a secondary addition to the legit ace we’re forecasting the Angels sign.

The Angels’ bullpen looks like a less pressing issue than their starting staff, yet it’s still an area they could stand to address. Hansel Robles was quietly one of the surprise relievers in baseball in 2019; Ty Buttrey, Cam Bedrosian, Noe Ramirez and Felix Pena put up respectable years in their own right; and Keynan Middleton should be ready for a full season as he continues to distance himself from May 2018 TJ surgery. All six of those hurlers are in line to return to the Halos next season, which is – for lack of a better word – a relief. They’re all righties, though, so it wouldn’t be a shock for the Angels to at least target a southpaw to complement them. Probably not Aroldis Chapman or Will Smith, who’d cost too much for a team that has to pour so much money into its rotation, but Jake Diekman and Francisco Liriano would make for affordable targets. It’s important to note that Diekman and Liriano are consistent against lefty and righty batters alike – which is a must-have trait for a southpaw with MLB set to implement a three-batter minimum rule in 2020.

As for the Angels’ collection of position players, Trout and Upton will keep occupying two-thirds of the outfield; Andrelton Simmons will continue to hold down short; the underrated David Fletcher will primarily man second or third; Ohtani makes for a more-than-capable DH; and for better or worse, Albert Pujols will stay as a DH/first baseman. But what of the rest of their lineup?

The Halos are likely stuck with another year of Zack Cozart, who could see a fair bit of action at second or third if he’s healthy. Fellow infielder Luis Rengifo had a decent rookie season, while yet another first-year infielder, Matt Thaiss, at least showed some pop. There’s also Tommy La Stella, who was amid an unexpected All-Star year before suffering what basically proved to be a season-ending fractured tibia at the beginning of July. So, it’s entirely possible the Angels will be comfortable with Fletcher, Cozart, Rengifo, Thaiss and La Stella at second and third. If not, free agency may be a route for the club to take. FAs-to-be Anthony Rendon and Josh Donaldson look wholly unrealistic, but that may not be the case for Mike Moustakas/Todd Frazier at third or the slew of low-priced second basemen on the cusp of reaching the open market.

Moving to the outfield, the main question is whether the Angels will buy out solid all-around right fielder Kole Calhoun. It seems likely, as doing so would save the team $13MM to spend on other sore spots. They could easily plug in Brian Goodwin and/or another similarly inexpensive player in right as a stopgap as they wait for one of their top prospects to show up. Angels farmhands Jo Adell – who’s among the cream-of-the-crop prospects in baseball – and Brandon Marsh are closing on the majors, so it seems unlikely the team will allocate a substantial amount of money to right field in 2020.

Aside from the Angels’ pitching staff, the catcher position stands out as their most troubling area. Last winter’s relatively cheap signing of Jonathan Lucroy failed, while in-season pickups Max Stassi and Anthony Bemboom recorded abysmal numbers. The Angels are now left with Stassi, Bemboom and Kevan Smith (who had a passable overall season at the plate but floundered in the second half) as the only backstops left on their 40-man roster. That’s obviously not ideal. Still, it’s up in the air how much money the Angels will spend to upgrade the position. It could depend on how much they use to fix their rotation, which should be the priority. Should a Cole or Strasburg join the mix, it’s likely the game’s No. 1 pending free-agent catcher, Yasmani Grandal (an Angels target last winter), will end up out of their price range. Otherwise, any of Jason Castro, Travis d’Arnaud, Robinson Chirinos or even Austin Romine (whom Eppler knows from the Yankees) look like players who could potentially pique the Angels’ interest.

“Obviously, Arte’s never been worried about spending money,” Maddon recently said of Moreno. That’ll need to prove true in the next several weeks, as the clearest path to properly address the Angels’ most glaring weakness – starting pitching – will be throwing cash at the problem. Whether it’s Cole or Strasburg, it seems imperative for the team to land at least one of them if it’s going to finally crawl out of the muck in 2020. It’s hard to imagine this going down as a resoundingly successful offseason for the Angels if they swing and miss on both of those aces.

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  1. bkwalker510

    6 years ago

    good luck in that division

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    • Vizionaire

      6 years ago

      any team need good lucks!

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    • bucnole31658

      6 years ago

      Astros run ends within then next 4 games, Seattle is Seattle, Texas has pitching but they aren’t close and Oakland will win 85-90 games. Shouldn’t take much two arms a utility player, staying healthy and the Angels with Ohtani at full strength pitching for the first time in 5 years. They could easily win 90-95 games

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      • ab3b29

        6 years ago

        You’ve been drinking the spiked Kool-aid? Astros run is not even close to ending unfortunately. Angels will be playing for a wild card at best for the next five years with the Astros in that division

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          No, you need to check into how many complimentary players, especially in the bullpen, the Astros have to make decisions on and they’re all 32+ with many topping out at 35+.
          Its very possible that the Astros will have a much tougher time in the future with Oakland, and even the Rangers and Angels pressing them.
          Astros fans seems to think the wheel keeps on turning even though Verlander is 1 year older, Cole is going somewhere else, and that leaves you with the old guy Greinke who frankly doesn’t scare anybody as far as opponents….who else is going to fill our the frontline pitching let alone the complementary pieces I mentioned right off…..

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          The next five years? I’m not sure how anyone can project that far into the future, but the Astros are the class of the division and the Angels are playing for the wild card in 2020.

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        • AngelDiceClay

          6 years ago

          While The Astros are the class of the division. How much longer do you think Verlander and Grienke can remain effective? If Cole leaves then what?

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        • wordonthestreet

          6 years ago

          Ab3b29 if you think the Astros have the division locked up for the next 5 years you must be spiking the Kool Aid you are drinking

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        • trident

          6 years ago

          As an Angel fan I wouldn’t underestimate the Astros. They are the best team in the division and still have a top 10 farm system. If Whitley figures things out then losing Cole won’t be a big deal for the Astros. They also need to figure out what to do with Kyle Tucker.

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        • prov356

          6 years ago

          The AL West will have a different look in 2020. The Stros are losing a few key pieces to free agency and the Angels are threatening to spend some cash on pitching. That will balance them out a bit. The A’s will probably improve this winter as will the Rangers. Seattle will be Seattle – start strong and plummet to last place by the ASB. The division should be more competitive at the top.

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        • prov356

          6 years ago

          Mac – I think you’re selling the Angels short for 2020. The Astros will be a different team in 2020 and the Angels should be significantly stronger. I think the division is open to the Astros, Angels, or the A’s.

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      • JoeBrady

        6 years ago

        Astros run ends within then next 4 games,
        ————————————————-
        ROTFLMAO!

        I’d love to see the Astros lose, but except for Trout, Houston is better than the Angels at every position, like 2-25.

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          But except for Trout, Houston is better than the Angels at every position, like 2-25 .

          That’s laughable. Is hyperbole something you people work on? The Astros are clearly better, CLEARLY MUCH MUCH better, but 2-25.

          You know so little about baseball you don’t know the rosters are now 26 players.

          You don’t even know who the catchers will be next year. Or the bullpen. Or who is going to be the #1 on the Angels. And no one in their right mind would take the Astros RF over the Angels RF.

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        • HalosHeavenJJ

          6 years ago

          100%, especially on the mound. That can change somewhat quickly with Cole likely to leave (possibly to LA) and the other two aging.

          Adell and Marsh will ultimately supplant Upton and Calhoun about the time Springer leaves. Those resources will be directed elsewhere.

          I can legitimately see Houston, Oakland, and the Angels fighting close battles night in and night out soon.

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  2. eelektrik

    6 years ago

    Anyone else think a Howie Kendrick reunion could be in the cards? He’s been surprisingly great for his age, would work well as a utility player filling in multiple roles, and I’d love to see him eventually retire as an Angel.

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    • greatd

      6 years ago

      Not saying it won’t happen but he’ll have many contending teams wanting him
      so the odds seem low.

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    • dirkg

      6 years ago

      I think a lot of Halo fans would LOVE that reunion, but I dont see why Joe wouldn’t give LaStella first crack at 2B. Joe loved him in Chicago and he was an All Star 2nd last year for the Angel’s (obv before injury).

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      • macstruts

        6 years ago

        I don’t think it’s likely. I’d be shocked if it happened. It’s a roster spot the Angels don’t need to fill. If he hit LH, then he could play a little for Pujols. But the Angels have Cozart still on the books and Rengifo. Not to mention, there is a reasonable chance Zobrist may follow Maddon.

        They are better off spending money in other places.

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  3. greatd

    6 years ago

    Think the team should sign

    Grandal

    to have a stable catcher

    Wheeler
    Odorizzi
    Porcello

    to have a rotation for once

    Castellanos

    know that he won’t be able to DH with Ohtani around but
    a young guy to keep the offense going for years to come

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    • bucnole31658

      6 years ago

      Castellanos is a DH only,and those 3 pitchers are bottom of the barrel 5th starter at best guys. Jo Adell is coming next year, I’d go after Donaldson or Rendon. And take a shot at Cole but likely he’s a Yankee because he’s been a lifelong fan and wants to be there, then maybe Strasburg if he opts out

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      • greatd

        6 years ago

        That’s why they won’t cost as much.

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      • andymeyer

        6 years ago

        Zach Wheeler is a “bottom of the barrel 5th starter at best”??

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        • mlb fan

          6 years ago

          He is off base with that comment, because Zack Wheeler is a #2 on a lot of teams and a #3 at worst on the rest…….If a team has 4 starters BETTER than Zack Wheeler, I would certainly like to see that team, because I have not seen any team with 4 better starters than Zack Wheeler, in my lifetime…..

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          What are Lance Lynn and Mike Minor and Wade Miley and Mike Fiers and Brian Anderson and Chris Basset and Homer Baily.?

          They are all over 30. . Good years, bad years. Good health, bad health. Last year they were all good. Anyone think they are going to be all good this year. Look at what they did in 2018. Anyone thinks half will? Chris Basset is 31 and has a lifetime WAR of 3.7.

          Some people only pay attention to a team’s record last year. They don’t see how it happened.

          So you are saying every established starter, other than Verlander and Greinke, in this division, is bottom of the barrel.

          Any team would love to add Zack Wheeler to it’s staff.

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        • Bruin1012

          6 years ago

          Zack Wheeler would be a 4 for sure on the Nats maybe also the Astros right now. As for all time I’m sure he would be a 5 in some those 90’s Braves rotations and he would certainly be a 5 in the Dodgers 1966 rotation.

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          I would bet even the Nationals would love to have him. And he wouldn’t be a five on staffs of the 60s and most of the 70s because back then they had four man staffs.

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      • DTD_ATL

        6 years ago

        Of those 3 listed, only Porcello is a number 5. Odorizzi and Wheeler are number 3 pitchers that have the occasional ace outing.

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      • dirkg

        6 years ago

        Google how many free agent Starting Pitchers have actually signed in NY. Now Google how many Scott Boras SP clients have signed with NY. That stadium and the other stadiums in that division kill SP metrics. Ask Sonny Gray or JA Happ.

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    • andrewgauldin

      6 years ago

      Nah.
      Cole as the ace.
      Roark and Gibson because they’re gonna give you 30 starts with a high 3 low 4 era. They rarely hit the IL which is something the current Angels don’t know how to stay off of..
      Sign Austin Romine, Stephen Vogt, and maybe Francisco Liriano. I’d say Cole needs to be had before the other moves, otherwise allocate the money differently and get a guy like Grandal and Smith, along with a wheeler or madbum.

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      • greatd

        6 years ago

        Like what the others say as well but one ace does not cure all.
        What if he needs TJ or something down the road?
        You can’t have your season banked on 1 or 2 guys.

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      • greatd

        6 years ago

        Roark and Gibson won’t be around for the prime years at their age.

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        • andrewgauldin

          6 years ago

          You can make the argument that most free agents are past their prime… it doesn’t mean you can’t still get a few useful years out of them.

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    • mlb fan

      6 years ago

      I agree, signing Wheeler, Grandal, Odorizzi and Porcello makes more sense than signing Gerrit Cole, because the annually mediocre Angels are much more than just one Gerrit Cole signing away from contention….. It is possible that they could get all FOUR of those players, for around the same cost of one Gerrit Cole signing…….And then, the Angels will eventually HAVE to do something about their farm, since that is your first line of defense against injuries, which have devastated the Angels the last 3-4 years…..

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      • rocky7

        6 years ago

        Getting all 4 of the pitchers you mentioned….you must know something the other 31 teams in the league don’t because to do that the rest of the league would have to fall into a deep sleep until the Angels awaken them upon completion of their free agent signings…..the odds that they would even get 2 are extremely high indeed with all the league looking for solid starting pitching.

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        • AngelDiceClay

          6 years ago

          There’s 32 teams in MLB? What cities are they located in expansion breath?

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      • AngelDiceClay

        6 years ago

        The farm system is in better shape than it was 4 years ago

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      • prov356

        6 years ago

        MLB Fan – You must not pay attention to the Angels. Their farm has been rank in the top 15 for a couple years now after Eppler took over as GM. Depth hasn’t been the problem. Injuries are the problem.

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  4. Eightball611

    6 years ago

    Albertos bad contract however as a business move then his HOF will pay off.

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  5. saintguitar

    6 years ago

    Given the spending trend of the team in the last few years, after acquiring 1 or 2 ace-like pitchers the Angels will be less likely to go after any other players.

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    • mlb fan

      6 years ago

      The Angels need to take about 300 million dollars and then SPREAD it around on about 4 players, with at least 3 of them being pitchers…..The Angels are FURTHER than just one Gerrit Cole signing away from contention……

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      • rocky7

        6 years ago

        MLB fan…..finally….a realist!
        Unfortunately for Angles fans, they are more than 1 signing away from really making a run at division leaders now matter how you stack them up…and while Trout is the best in the game, Ohtani is far from proven as a 2 way player (blasphemy), and may simply be a DH type ballplayer in order to keep him on the field…..build from there as there are a bunch of other holes to fill.
        Cole, if the money is right, very well might sign with the Angels but that still doesn’t make them the odd on favorite to take the division from the Astros or even the A’s.

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        • JoeBrady

          6 years ago

          Yup, good to see you and MLB posting some common sense. There really isn’t a lot of talent on the Angels.

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          Common sense? First of all common sense is not comparing the Angels to the Astros.

          Common sense is realizing the Angels are not going to spend money upgrading positions other than catcher. They don’t have to.

          They are not going to replace the all star LeStella, they are not going to replace Fletcher, who had the same WAR 3.4 to 3.5 as Altuve. They are not going to replace Puljos, they could, but they are not. They are not going to replace Upton or Adell. So all that money is going towards a catcher and pitching.

          Common sense is realize the Angels need health from Othani, Heaney and Canning. And if they sign an ace.

          If they stay healthy, they’ll be very competitive for a wild card spot. Only if the Astros collapse and the Angels stay healthy, they’ll catch the Astros. Who would predict that, not me.

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        • unpaidobserver

          6 years ago

          Hate to be that guy, but the Angels as currently constructed are a fourth place team. You just described the steps to become a third place team. The reality is, to be a first place team they have to do a total teardown and wait for Pujols’ contract to be over.

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          Really, is that what you go from that? One mediocre position player and they are a 4th place team?

          If Ohtani, Heaney and Canning are healthy, they’ll make the wild card. They wont be, that’s just the way the Angels roll.

          But the team is not going to stop there.

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        • AngelDiceClay

          6 years ago

          A total tear down ? You must be a Mariners fan. You don’t go full rebuild with Mike Trout on your team.

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        • AngelDiceClay

          6 years ago

          Your Ohtani statement makes you a total idiot. He was a dominant pitcher before he had surgery.

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        • macstruts

          6 years ago

          They don’t know what they are talking about. For example :
          Brantly is a 116+ lifetime OPS guy, has finally gotten healthy and they say he’s light years better than Upton who had one freak accident last year.

          Upton has 298 home runs, 937 RBIs. And is one year younger than Brantly who has 109 home runs and 618 RBIs.

          But to these clowns, Brantly is great, and the Angels need to dump Upton.

          They have no idea what goes on outside of their team’s city.

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        • prov356

          6 years ago

          Joe and Rocky – My guess is neither of you actually watch the Angels. There’s no sense in going through it in detail because you guys aren’t Angels fans. I would put our infield up against any in baseball with Simmons, LaStella, and Fletcher. Our only need is rotation and catcher.

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        • JoeBrady

          6 years ago

          Our only need is rotation and catcher.
          —————————————-
          I had Fletcher on my roto team last year. He did okay. But before the PCL, he had 7 minor league HRs, and he had a .699 OPS after may. I’d like to see another good season before passing judgement. But I do like the plate discipline.

          LaStella is a guy I followed since Atlanta, and thought the Cubs absolutely stole him. However, even as a guy I liked, I never thought of him as more than a good UIF. Prior to 2019 and the juiced ball, he had 10 HRs in 828 ABs. I expect a lot of reversion.

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    • rocky7

      6 years ago

      Oh, another Angels booster who thinks they will sign not 1 but 2 ACE pitchers while the rest of the league just stands by and watches….the weather in SoCal is very nice but not that nice and the odds that either Moreno overwhelms 1-2 pitchers with money is extremely high indeed.
      There are pitchers who wish to both make the best money and play for a contender and the contender part is where the Angels have the biggest problem right now.

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      • saintguitar

        6 years ago

        I was only stating that the kind of “stupid money” the Angels will be spending is very limited given the last few years’ examples. I wasn’t saying they are a shoe-in for 2 ace pitchers. Also note that I said 1 or 2 because I know the market will be insane.

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        • rocky7

          6 years ago

          Okay, I understand and agree….thanks for the clarity on the post.

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      • AngelDiceClay

        6 years ago

        Maddon should help sway 1 or 2 good pitchers. The Angels are not that far off. They are set in the infield. And hopefully Upton can bounce back. I think Arte will spend big. They need to find a 1B to spell Pujols That clown they signed last year was abysmal.

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      • imindless

        6 years ago

        @rocky7 you make it seem like you know everything about baseball and ultimately who will win before the games are played. If this is the case you should probably go bet and win some money.

        What most common idiots on here like to omit is that angels will have close to 65 million if the let calhoun walk. Keep in mind that just this year. Next year simmons and cozart money come off the books, thats another 25+ million….still keeping up or did i lose you? The year after pujols is gone and that frees up another 30 million and the year after so is upton at you guessed it another 30 million.

        Not mentioning other factors and subtractions The angels will make, they will be able to add the key pieces over the next 2/3 not just this year. But sure if you want to roll with the notion that they wont win good for you.

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  6. Vizionaire

    6 years ago

    lmao! with so many ‘experts’ on the angels without in-depth knowledge of the team, eppler must be shaking in his sleep! go home, trolls!

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    • macstruts

      6 years ago

      They didn’t even read the link. A lot of people come on this board and all they see is the teams record and no nothing about the team.

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  7. JoeBrady

    6 years ago

    How long before trading Trout becomes feasible?

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    • AngelDiceClay

      6 years ago

      Around the same time Kate Upton ends up next to you in bed.

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      • thetruth 2

        6 years ago

        Lol but it could happen later on, what if Trout is 34 and the team sucks?

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  8. msqboxer

    6 years ago

    They will go all in on Cole and get him…after that they will patch work a rotation with a Cole Hamels and other pieces. Maddon will get those players that have 2-3 hoods years left to fill out the roster and make the wildcard next year.

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  9. angt222

    6 years ago

    LAA should go for broke.. Sign Gerrit Cole, Cole Hamels and pickup a legit closer.

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    • thetruth 2

      6 years ago

      And they’ll still finish third, they need a lot more

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      • prov356

        6 years ago

        thetruth – You say they need a lot more. Like what specifically?

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  10. neverbunt

    6 years ago

    Sign:
    Cole $230m/7y
    Will Smith $45m/3y
    Maldonado $12m/3y
    Hamels $28m/2yr
    Let Calhoun walk
    Call up Adell

    Puts them right or just above the luxury tax threshold, which they’d drop below next year after Cozart/Simmons would come off the books, and further after Pujols/Hamels the next year.

    Rotation: Cole, Ohtani, Heaney, Hamels, Canning/Sandoval
    Bullpen: Robles, Smith, Buttrey, Middleton, Bedrosian, Ramirez, Pena/Suarez/Peters/Barria
    Lineup: Adell, Trout, Ohtani, Upton, La Stella, Pujols, Simmons, Maldonado, Fletcher
    Bench: Thaiss, Cozart/Rengifo, Goodwin, Smith

    That’s a highly competitive team. Would need the young guys (Adell, Canning, Sandoval, Suarez, Buttrey, Rengifo, Thaiss) to continue to improve, but that’s realistic. Health permitting, that’s a great rotation, a solid bullpen, and an above average to great offense. And for once they’d actually have depth and mlb ready minor league options.

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    • macstruts

      6 years ago

      Maldondo is lucky to have a job. Any team can have him at one year and peanuts.

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    • macstruts

      6 years ago

      Maldondo is lucky to have a job. Any team can have him at one year and peanuts.

      And if Sandoval is penciled into this rotation, then the Angels had a bad off-season. .

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  11. rpoabr

    6 years ago

    Man, gotta love the how much people troll the Angels on here. Did anyone notice that the Angels were just short of a wildcard position before the Skaggs tragedy? That was with a crappy rotation, Upton being out, other injuries in play, and a crappy manager. Take a look at their record pre-Skaggs and post.

    Add an Ace pitcher, get a #3 type pitcher, sign Grandal, and hope the law of averages gives a healthy year for a change.

    Easy 90 win team, and that doesn’t even account for upside from Adel or someone else stepping up.

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    • thetruth 2

      6 years ago

      Lol

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  12. macstruts

    6 years ago

    If the Angels pick up a starting pitcher and catcher and have good healthy from:
    2b) Fletcher
    SS) Simmons
    LF) Upton
    CF) Trout
    RF) Adell
    DH) Ohtani

    SPs Canning, Ohtani and Heaney. They be better than competitive.

    The problem is .their core is never healthy. They are lucky if they get half their core healthy. Last year 2 of those players were healthy. Trout and Fletcher and even Trout only had 470 ABs.

    Just for comparison only, health not talent. The Astros had every key player healthy but Correa. They went 8 for 9 in key players healthy.

    And that’s not counting Reddick, Alvarez, Chirinos,

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  13. AngelDiceClay

    6 years ago

    Ok

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  14. Philliesfan4life

    6 years ago

    Its cole or bust for the angels this offseason, 6-7 years 225-230 will bring him in imo, Then maybe Wheeler or Odorizzi, If they can’t get Cole then get Strasburg if he opts out. Then I think another hitter and this team could challenge the astros , possibly a wildcard team. All they need is health from their starting pitching.

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  15. angelsfan4life

    6 years ago

    Here is my opinion on the best moves for the Angels.
    Signings
    Cole 7-230 to 240
    Bumgarner 4-80 to 90
    Keuchel 3-36
    Moustakas 3-36 with an option for a fourth year

    Trades
    Heaney, Simmons and La Stella to the Nationals to add prospects to deepen the farm system.
    Noe Ramirez and Hermosillo to the Dodgers for Enrique Hernandez and a low level prospect

    The Nationals get pieces to retool after losing the players who won’t be back with them.
    The Dodgers get a solid reliever and right handed hitting outfielder with speed.

    Ohtani will most likely only pitch on Sundays. Which means the Angels still need a five man rotation.

    Cole
    Bumgarner
    Keuchel
    Canning
    Let Pena, Petters and Sandoval compete for the fifth spot.

    Lineup

    Fletcher
    Goodwin
    Trout
    Moustakas
    Ohtani
    Upton
    Pujols/Thaiss
    Catcher
    Wong, Rengifo and Cozart compete for the second base

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    • imindless

      6 years ago

      Almost no way those players take those deals. Also the Nats wouldnt trade for those players even if they did they surely wouldnt send much back in return. La stella is most likely staying an angel, maddon loves him. I think its unrealistic to think keuchel and Moustakas will sign for that little.

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      • angelsfan4life

        6 years ago

        Moustakas only got a one year deal for 13 million from the Brewers. So three 36 million isn’t far off. Keuchel got 13 million for this season. Yes that was prorated. But he won’t be getting a ton of offers again. So those numbers are not that far off.

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      • angelsfan4life

        6 years ago

        Redon, Kendrick, Para, Eaton, Cabrera, Zimmerman and Adams are all FA

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    • JoeBrady

      6 years ago

      Why would the Nats trade for Simmons?

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  16. A'sfaninLondonUK

    6 years ago

    Personally (and I’m an A’s fan) the two things I’d be doing as Joe Maddon would be signing the best available catcher and secondly trying to work out why my rotation can’t stay healthy for a month let alone a season. The 2014 Angels (for example) were brilliant but come late September all the arms had fallen off.

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  17. Mr.Ward14

    6 years ago

    The Angels need a lot more than two SP. Their offense is a joke. There is nobody batting around Trout and if you really think Fletcher and La Stella are the bats we need, you’re deluding yourself. Arte needs to go all-in now!

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