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Reds Rumors: Grandal, Bullpen, Senzel

By Connor Byrne | October 2, 2019 at 12:13am CDT

Tuesday was an active one for the Reds, who made a few changes to their coaching staff. Here’s more from Cincinnati…

  • The Brewers’ season reached a heartbreaking end Tuesday, leaving the club to turn its attention to the offseason. One of its priorities could be re-signing catcher Yasmani Grandal, who will surely decline his half of a $16MM mutual option for 2020 in order to reach free agency for the second straight winter. As easily the premier catcher who’s on the verge of hitting the open market, Grandal figures to draw plenty of interest from outside clubs. Expectations are that the division-rival Reds will be among the teams that pursue Grandal, Jon Heyman of MLB Network reports. Now 30, Grandal began his pro career as the 12th overall pick of the Reds in 2010, but he never played a major league game in Cincinnati. The team traded Grandal to San Diego in a 2011 blockbuster, and he has blossomed into one of the majors’ elite catchers since then. Meanwhile, the Reds are coming off a year in which their catchers (primarily Tucker Barnhart and Curt Casali) posted mediocre production. If the Reds are going to upgrade over their current backstops with Grandal, though, they’ll undoubtedly need to put forth a significant offer. Grandal’s among the game’s top soon-to-be free agents, someone who’s ineligible to receive a qualifying offer after getting one last offseason, and it stands to reason he’ll be paid accordingly in the coming months.
  • The Reds will likely try to add one or two left-handers to their bullpen in the offseason, Bobby Nightengale of the Cincinnati Enquirer writes. Aside from Amir Garrett, no southpaw reliever the Reds tried for a decent sample of innings in 2019 was successful. Zach Duke and Wandy Peralta struggled so badly that the Reds cut ties with them before the year ended. Cody Reed enjoyed a promising 6 1/3-inning stretch in May, but a knee injury derailed his season toward the end of that month.
  • More from Nightengale, who reports the club’s “hopeful” it’ll have prized youngster Nick Senzel in the fold when the 2020 season opens. Senzel sat out the final four weeks of the regular season on account of a right shoulder injury that required surgery. Although Senzel spent the year in center field, it’s possible the Reds will add to that position this winter and move him back to the infield – specifically second base – next season, Nightengale notes. The upcoming free-agent class isn’t exactly teeming with obvious center field solutions, however.
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  1. AZPat

    6 years ago

    Small sample size but there’s one CF that had a .375 on base while an amazing .21 go/fo ratio. If he can do that for a season he would be an amazing addition. That one guy is Billy Hamilton with the Braves.

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    • Senioreditor

      6 years ago

      Yes but in only 41 at bats. His larger sample size seasons are vastly worse.

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    • DockEllisDee

      6 years ago

      No. No. ….
      (smh)
      …..NO

      Reply
  2. RealCarlAllen

    6 years ago

    Michael Lorenzen

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    • Jason d r

      6 years ago

      Lorenzen should be the closer next year. Raisel was not very good.

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  3. Jason d r

    6 years ago

    What about trading for ender enciarte? He had a down year and could be a big help as a leadoff hitter with speed. Sign Iglesias, put him at ss and put nick at 2nd. Between winker, Ervin and aquino they can deal with lf and rf.

    Reply
  4. seventythreesfgfan

    6 years ago

    Really wanted the Brewers to make a run, and this is coming from a Giants Fan. I don’t like the Nats. Mostly because their ownership is a greedy land baron. Their patriarch is as greedy as someone could ever be.

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    • lowtalker1

      6 years ago

      They didn’t have yelich
      They still don’t have decent starting pitching
      Bruan and Cain were injured
      Nats rotation matches up with the doyuers but they don’t have d!ck for bullpen.

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      • 2id

        6 years ago

        Despite all that, they still made the postseason and were 6 outs away from the NLDS.

        Reply
  5. higherandtighter

    6 years ago

    “but he (Grandal) never played a major league game in Cincinnati”

    He’s played lots of MLB games in Cincy.

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    • sufferforsnakes

      6 years ago

      Good catch.

      Reply
  6. stubby66

    6 years ago

    I will give Grandal credit for his offense but defensively and working with pitchers there is a lot to be desired and that has to be a very important. There was plenty of conflict with him and pitchers on pitch choice.More important to resign Moose and front line pitcher( Wheeler) with hopefully resigning Lyles would rather grab D’arnaud to be catcher.

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    • spinach

      6 years ago

      Wheeler is a front line pitcher? And you want D’Arnaud, too? Maybe you can bring Wilmer Flores and Ruben Tejada in to camp to duke it out for starting SS, too.

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      • stubby66

        6 years ago

        No I’m kinda hoping we bring in Iglesias to play short which give us as a line up of
        Grisham LF
        Cain CF
        Yellich RF
        D’arnaud C
        Braun 1BS
        Huira 2BS
        Iglesias SS
        Moose 3BS
        with a rotation of
        Wheeler
        Woodruff
        Lyles
        Suter
        Houser

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        • Cave

          6 years ago

          You want Braun at 1st? With his back problems he could be a disaster. It’s like having Pederson at 1st with LA.

          Reply
  7. greatd

    6 years ago

    Is the Mouse loose?

    Reply
  8. Steven Chinwood

    6 years ago

    The Reds FO/Ownership are a curious lot indeed. That trade with the Dodgers last year was just another of the head scratchers they’ve completed over the last 5-7 years.

    Reply
  9. DarkSide830

    6 years ago

    Grandal is going to be in for a rude awakening again in thr market this year. all he did was hit a few more homers this year, and after all, nobody else did that.

    Reply
    • afsooner02

      6 years ago

      Dude is not even 31 yet in a position that not a lot of players hit that many HRs. Ya z will get a good payday in the offseason. 3/60mm isn’t out of the question.

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      • BlueSkyLA

        6 years ago

        Dude turned down a QO from the Dodgers for more than he was paid by the Brewers, and apparently also a four-year offer from the Mets. Maybe he needs a new agent or something. Catchers do not age like fine wine.

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        • Blue_Painted_Dreams_LA

          6 years ago

          Actually that’s untrue he turned down the QO, and made more as a Brewer. Somewhat Insignificant comparatively, but he made more. He’s basically in a great position, with no QO hanging over his head, to receive a high AAV mid range contract. He bet on himself, and it’s easy to see him beat 64/4. With 18.25/1 it comes down to whether he can clear > 46/3. With the state of catching right that seems more than reasonable. Would bet his agent is more than fine

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        • BlueSkyLA

          6 years ago

          With the option buyout it would be a bit more than the QO, but we don’t know whether he collects the buyout if he declines the option. I suspect not. A buyout generally means the team elects to pay to release a player. I don’t pretend to know what he will get only that catchers are not usually in line for longterm contracts at age 31. He had a good season in Milwaukee but just the same he’s always been a very streaky hitter with some questionable defensive abilities.

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  10. Braves4Ever2025

    6 years ago

    I don’t know how the Braves can not be in on Grandal when they say they have money to spend.

    I don’t know how they weren’t in on him last year

    I don’t know how they won’t be in on him this year (because they won’t)

    It’s seriously a head scratcher. They don’t have anyone in the minors and they have a major hole there. Contreras is not close by any means.

    Reply
  11. $crewBaLL

    6 years ago

    Lock up Grandal & Moose.
    go get a starter.
    Stretch that pay roll

    Reply
  12. VegasSDfan

    6 years ago

    I never liked Grandal, especially after he was suspended for PED use.

    Reply
  13. craigmiller13

    6 years ago

    See if Nationals would give up Robles for 3 years of R.Iglesias. Move Senzel to 2B. Let Lorenzen close.

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    • Cave

      6 years ago

      No way, there is no way they give up Robles for a struggling reliever

      Reply
  14. DockEllisDee

    6 years ago

    I know the thought of picking up Grandal is tempting, but you know he’s going to command a hefty sum, and I think they’d be better served to concentrate on other positional needs. Their catching corps is kind of a glass half full/empty situation, sure they leave a little to be desired at times but you look around the league and you could do a hell of a lot worse.. Defensively they’re solid and they’ve handled the staff, especially the SPs really well imho. Keep them and put that money toward relief pitching and maybe a CF or SS

    Reply
  15. pappyvw

    6 years ago

    Reds are heading in the right direction. They will re-sign Iglesias, play Galvis at 2b, and then pursue a big bat for LF (Senzel and Aquino are set in CF and RF), and then pursue Grandal and a couple of relievers. Then make a run next year, hopefully, while they still have Bauer.

    Reply
    • Cave

      6 years ago

      Winker?

      Reply
      • pappyvw

        6 years ago

        Winker is a nice kid. But, he’s always hurt, and he doesn’t do anything particularly well, e.g., defense, arm, power, hit lefties. He won’t be there, in my opinion, or if he’s there he won’t be relied upon. Has enough perceived upside that he could be a piece in a trade.

        Reply
      • pappyvw

        6 years ago

        VanMeter has surpassed him in the depth chart, in my opinion (in part due to his ability to play both OF and IF, plus he stays healthy)

        Reply
  16. 802Ghost

    6 years ago

    They have catchers ready for 2021.

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