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Latest On Red Sox’ Asking Price For Mookie Betts

By Jeff Todd | January 21, 2020 at 9:12am CDT

We missed this recent item, but it bears highlighting. ESPN.com’s Buster Olney recently provided some details (Insider link) on the asking price the Red Sox have placed on star outfielder Mookie Betts.

It goes without saying that the Boston organization is requesting quite a bit in return for an opportunity to rent one of the game’s best players. Otherwise, we might already have seen a swap. And chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom may not have been quite so forthright in recently announcing his “expectation” that Betts will remain with the club for 2020.

Olney’s report is most interesting for its indications of the sort of structure the Red Sox would be willing to consider. He writes that the Sox would look to package Betts (and his big upcoming arbitration salary) with veteran hurler David Price (including “most or all” of his remaining $96MM in guaranteed earnings). To acquire those quality but highly compensated veterans, a rival organization would have to part with “two high-end prospects to front the deal.”

Even allowing a wide degree of latitude for interpretation regarding the quality of the talent requested in return, that feels like a steep ask. It’s also an understandable one. Betts may be costly, but he’s also a 27-year-old with a recent 10-WAR season under his belt. The well-rounded, high-end performer might conceivably take a team from plausible contender to division favorite.

The involvement of Price is notable both for what it says of the Red Sox’ valuation of the lefty — it remains rather high — and for what it means for the potential universe of Betts pursuers. All MLB teams could fit Betts into a payroll, even if it meant shuffling the deck to meet their internal targets. But adding that salary and most of the money owed Price in one fell swoop is another thing entirely. Some clubs that might theoretically match up on Betts could be taken out of the picture if Price must indeed be bundled.

It remains to be seen whether there’ll be further talks involving this Betts-Price scenario. Olney notes that the Red Sox could simply carry their young star into the season in hopes that he and others will spur a rebound performance after a laggard 2019 showing. If so, it’ll easily be worth the foregone trade return. If not, there’s always the trade deadline to reconsider, with Betts potentially featuring as a pennant-race-altering figure.

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  1. Black Ace57

    5 years ago

    It doesn’t matter how much he bounces back. No one is taking on Price’s money AND giving up 2 quality prospects to have Betts for a season or less.

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    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      Nice analysis Einstein. I’m wondering, maybe you can answer, do you think that’s why maybe it hasn’t happened yet?

      As we move into spring training and closer to the season I’m sure the asking price will drop. Isn’t that how business works LOL… rarely do you become successful if you start low LOL.

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      • Just_a_thought

        5 years ago

        *Black Ace57’s point*
        *miles upon miles*
        *Gary’s head*
        Thanks for the riveting supportive analysis Gary, though most can understand your “point” was implicit within the original post. Maybe you can answer, is it that time of the month?

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      • hyraxwithaflamethrower

        5 years ago

        You don’t start insanely high, either. To use your car example below, if you have a car worth $10K, you might ask for $13K, but you don’t ask for $50K. The Red Sox are asking teams to give up two of their top prospects and take on over $120M of salary for one year of Betts and 3 years of a #3 pitcher. That’s not a high ask, that’s an insane one, especially when Betts can be had for just money (a *lot* less per year than this deal effectively makes him worth and a draft pick next year.

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        • slapnuts

          5 years ago

          Who is paying $13K for a $10k car?!?! I’ve got a house for sale just for them…

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          What they are doing is asking for the moon to see if someone bites. When they reach a point where they truly want to make a trade, the price will be lowered assuming they didn’t catch anything with the thrown bait. I have a case with trial starting tomorrow. the injured attorney started at $8m one year ago and $300k was offered. Now that a deadline is near. $4.5m settles the case right now and $3m has been offered. My guess is it settles as we pick a jury.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      5 years ago

      Agreed. Betts is close enough to being fairly compensated by his last turn through arbitration that his surplus value doesn’t do more than offset Prices’ badly under water contract. The Red Sox would have to throw in a fair amount of cash if they want a couple of top prospects back.

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      • Jbigz12

        5 years ago

        You aren’t going to get two top pieces. With Dallas Keuchel getting 3/54 MM though I think that’s roughly what Price is worth. Which is much higher than I would’ve expected—but the WS gave it to Keuchel. They could probably dump Betts and 80% of Price’s deal for no return whatsoever. That won’t go over in the Boston media but that may be doable. No way the top prospects come back with that kind of insane ask though.

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      • Buck Jones

        5 years ago

        The Red Sox only hope of pulling this one off is for Dombrowski to get the Phillies’or Dodgers’ GM job.lol

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      • MrAngelFan

        5 years ago

        Mookie is intent on hitting the free agent market. There will be no guarantee beyond this year that you keep Mookie. I do not see a lot of possible fits at this point other than the Dodgers. The Dodgers actually could actually take a chance on a pitcher like Price since the usually strong Dodger rotation is thinner than normal but 90+million is still a lot to take on for Price. It wouldn’t be the first time the Red Sox were able to make a contract dump trade with the Dodgers. If there is some team willing to take the full brunt of the Price contract for one year of Betts, I suspect the deal would get done. This would be a pure salary dump and I do not foresee much if anything coming back in return. As I see it, the Dodgers would be the team with the need and finances to make this happen.. Betts and Bellinger in the same lineup, yikes.

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        • deweybelongsinthehall

          5 years ago

          You make it sound like Boston is losing money. They would prefer to get under the threshold to reset and get better draft picks in addition to the money saved but other teams are not buying during a going out of business sale. The money isn’t as much as it sounds because if you get nothing back, the team likely will suffer on NESN, radio and merchandise sales. Not hurting compared to other teams but big declines compared to their projections.

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        • Jbigz12

          5 years ago

          You’re talking about 100+ million dollars. Your logic might work for a couple million bucks but that’s not at all what is going on here. There’s no decrease in revenue coming from dealing those guys to impact that significantly.

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    • SG

      5 years ago

      Sounds like the way to go.
      Package Betts and Price together and demand 2 draft picks or more.
      If you get an offer consider it.
      If you don’t the hang on to them.
      Just remember the asking price does up at the trade deadline.
      Assuming the deal is still on the table and Boston isn’t in it.
      It’s a no brainer.
      We’ll see what happens.
      LOL

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      • ChiSoxCity

        5 years ago

        Draft picks? Keep your day job.

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        • melkor77

          5 years ago

          Hehehehe

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        • DirtyWater04

          5 years ago

          “Keep your day job,” says guy acting as if anyone commenting on MLB Trade Rumors dot com actually works in a real front office. Congrats on scoring higher than SG in your Wannabe GM self evaluation though, ChiSox, we’re all so proud of you. Keep knocking it out of the park with your hypothetical proposals presented to nobody of real influence, if more follow your lead and do it for long enough it can eventually get them to where you are right now, which is nowhere.

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        • believeland

          5 years ago

          I’m pretty sure they’re referencing the fact that you can’t trade MLB draft picks, except for comp round picks. It’s pretty well known for anyone that follows how MLB front offices run.

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        • DirtyWater04

          5 years ago

          I’m aware, and flippantly telling him to “keep his day job” as if he or anyone else in this conversation has a future in an MLB front office is a worthless comment.

          You’re all adults and were probably able to figure out what he meant by saying “draft picks” instead of “minor leaguers,”. Hate to break it to the more delusional among us but snarkily putting down other people’s thoughts on here for not being as GM-ly as yours isn’t going to get you that call for your dream job so maybe let’s all settle down and be a bit nicer to each other. It’s just a comment board, none of us are front office executives so there is no need to be so anally precise about every stupid little detail lol.

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        • Danieley3

          5 years ago

          #Hypocrisy101 ‍♂️

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    • padreforlife

      5 years ago

      Padre fan thinks Hedges and Myers would get it done

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      • BartoloHRball

        5 years ago

        I’ll give this to San Diego fans…..they have been super diligent about trying to package one of the worst contracts in baseball and expecting to get quality back.

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        • sdnative

          5 years ago

          Ok we’ll take Price and Betts for Myers, a six pack of sculpin, and some carne asada fries… done

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          Depends on where those carne asada fries come from!

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      • sdnative

        5 years ago

        Yes please!

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      • Buck Jones

        5 years ago

        Hedges could prove a barrier to that deal going through..ahem!

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  2. ffjsisk

    5 years ago

    That’s a lot of money for anybody to take on. I wonder if the Braves have enough room to add both if they trade Inciarte and Green.

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    • Les Chesterfield

      5 years ago

      Huh ? Donaldson said braves weren’t in on him due to money he wanted so no clue how u can think they are even kicking tires on this

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      • Payne Train

        5 years ago

        Ever think that the Braves just didn’t want to give Donaldson, age 34, a 4 year contract for 93 million.

        This is an asking price from the Red Sox – no matter how stupid the ask is, they will obviously start ridiculously high and settle somewhere in the middle. And if they don’t, I’m sure it’s safe to assume that they didn’t draw any realistic interest at all.

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        • 802Ghost

          5 years ago

          I’d put Bellinger over Betts right now, at #2.

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        • thetruth 2

          5 years ago

          You’d be wrong. Acuna and Trout and Betts and Lindor are better than Bellinger the BABIP kid.

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        • therealryan

          5 years ago

          Are you calling Belinger the BaBIP kid because his BaBIP is consistent every season? Bellinger had a .302 BaBIP last season, which is right in line with MLB’s .298 average.

          Player A: ..305/.406/.629, 162 wRC+, 14.4% BB%, 16.4% K%, 8.4 WAR
          Player B: .280/.365/.518, 126 wRC+, 10.6% BB%, 26.3% K%, 5.6 WAR

          I’m also curious to know how you can justify calling Player B better than Player A.

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        • Marner#16

          5 years ago

          vtnsc,

          Dreamering with your eyes open

          1 and 2 are trout and betts

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          Ever heard of Christian Yelich?

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      • 802Ghost

        5 years ago

        The issue with the Braves was the amount of money for the number of years. Atlanta was pretty firm in offering 3 years.

        Betts is younger, better and a top 3 talent. JD isn’t that.

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        • thetruth 2

          5 years ago

          Acuna is better than Betts and had a better year than Trout. In a long term scenario Acuna is #1. Acuna, Yelich, Trout are top 3 in whatever order one thinks.

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        • siddfinch1079

          5 years ago

          Yeah, vtncsc! How DARE you call him a top 3 talent! It’s an insult to his TRUE ranking as #2!

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        • johndietz

          5 years ago

          If we’re going to compare long term, let’s leave Trout out of the conversation (even though he’s only going into his age 28 season). Trout’s at the top. The next 5 to 10 best players in the game switch spots on a year to year basis. No one is a consensus #2, #3 and so on. And NONE of these players outside Trout has been a consensus ANYTHING the past 7-8 years. Betts, Bellinger, Acuna, Yelich, Bregman are all terrific players. Any team wouldn’t hesitate to pay any of these players. THEY ARE ALL WORTH IT!!!!!

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        • Steven Hevenstone

          5 years ago

          I agree on Betts, but for a one year rental – he most definitely will do FA and go for a $35 plus mill deal or will look for a Bryce Harper or better deal once he hits FA. Price is NOT worth the money. Acuna is great, we have him, we don’t need Betts. What we need is a 3rd Baseman. Who knows… Maybe Riley will turn things around on Sliders and show some patience at the plate.

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        • Clayton Russell

          5 years ago

          Betts isn’t within a Mahomes throw of Trout and likely never will be. He’s a top 10 guy for sure but a lot of that is based on his strong defense which seems to be declining. Definitely not top 3. His only top 3 year was aided by cheating.

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        • Big Hurt

          5 years ago

          Um, how did Acuna have a better year than Trout?? Acuna had a very good year and will be great, but Trout was better than him in almost everything last year.

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        • Steven Hevenstone

          5 years ago

          JD had a great year for the Braves – everyone in Braves Country wanted him back, now he signs with the Twins and everyone says he is not that good? C’mon people let’s get real here. JD is worth it, but I think him going to an AL team makes more sense. The DH coming to the NL is just a rumor right now, until it actually happens, and that might never be. This way, JD probably has 2 solid years of Fielding left in the Tank, then in 2 years he can become more of a DH who “spells” the everyday 3rd baseman for the Twins. It is a smart move on the Twins part and a smart move on JD part. I am disappointed to hear that the Braves, though rumors stated they had a $100 million 4 year deal on the table, did not offer a competitive deal. If they REALLY had $100 million 4 years on the table JD probably would have been back with the Braves, then when his defense begins to decline in 2 years everyone in Braves Country would say “We told you not to offer him a contract”. C’mon Braves Country, let’s get real and move on. We need a bat – preferably third base, and there are others out there besides Bryant (who I am not sold on) and Arenado (who will be a Rockies player till his opt out). Put Riley into AAA and have him face pitchers who are going to throw him mostly Sliders, let him figure it out. Then in a couple of years he will be either ready, a bust, or Trade-Bait.

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        • California Halo's

          5 years ago

          Who was the MVP’S last season? Can you guess? Acuna? Yelich? Noooooo!!!!! and the winners for MLB 2019 Mike Trout and Cody Bellinger!!!!!

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        • laswagn

          5 years ago

          @thetruth please show me Acuña’s MVP trophy

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        • MrAngelFan

          5 years ago

          for someone called thetruth, you are full of a lot of crap. Acuna isnt even close to Trout. You would completely lack any comprehension of baseball to think Acuna had a better year than Trout. Trout is better than Acuna in almost everything , WAR, AVG, HRS, OBP, OPS, OPS+, WRC, WRC+, MVPs. It is not even close.

          #1 Trout
          #2 Bellinger
          #3 Yelich
          #4 Betts
          #5 Bregman

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        • seth3120

          5 years ago

          Trout is Trout. If you want to have a conversation about Trout comparable players I think you’d have to include all of baseball history not just current day. Like every mammoth contract out there the potential for negative value is there on the back end. But he’s the kind of player who’s the face of the franchise after he hangs up his cleats. If anyone is worth it it’s Trout

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    • Jon429

      5 years ago

      I doubt it. That would be asking the Braves to take on a bad contract plus a $30 million dollar OF bat on top of a payroll that’s already the highest its ever been. Even if the Bosox weren’t asking for 2 top prospects I think the answer from the Braves would be no.

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  3. DarkSide830

    5 years ago

    yeah good luck with that one

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  4. Payne Train

    5 years ago

    Haha wow – what, thats never going to happen.

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    • Buck Jones

      5 years ago

      Of course it isn’t,Dombrowski is out of work.

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  5. Finlander

    5 years ago

    Sox will have to eat half of Price to get anything near that.

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    • Phanatic 2022

      5 years ago

      If we are just talking about price the red sox do not get any prospects of note back for eating half.

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      • 802Ghost

        5 years ago

        Wrong post.

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  6. rickoppelt

    5 years ago

    I feel like the teams that could afford to pull off such a deal are also the teams that don’t need an over paid pitcher like price as most notable contenders already have a starting rotation where price would be towards the end of the rotation. And teams like the dodgers just aren’t going to deal two high end prospects on top of that exorbitant asking price just to rent Betts.

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  7. bigdaddyt

    5 years ago

    What team is going to be willing to take on 60+ million this year alone? And have to give Boston something half decent back in return. Good luck Boston, might be the 4th place team in the east this year

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    • T_Rexx2

      5 years ago

      Probably the Phillies. They put Betts In CF, Price slots into the Rotation. They have had terrible luck with developing prospects. And Middleton said he wasn’t willing to go over the tax for a marginal increase. This wouldn’t be a marginal increase.

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      • ExileInLA 2

        5 years ago

        If BOS took Segura, for the contract ($14.25mm/year thru 2022, + $1mm buyout), that would basically make Price = Keuchel on money. But I doubt that the Phillies have the prospects to make a deal.

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    • mcase7187

      5 years ago

      You do realize that the sox still have a good team that won the WS ?

      Last yr was injury filled season and horrible bullpen (which means it can only go up from there) they may not pass the yanks but the still a top 5 team

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  8. chitown311

    5 years ago

    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

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    • pplama

      5 years ago

      KW and Rick were close to giving up Vaughn and Madrigal for those 2. Had to talk themselves out of doing the deal.
      Bullet. Dodged.

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  9. Bravescj10

    5 years ago

    Or just wait one year for free agency

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  10. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    5 years ago

    So, he’s staying put then. That’s one of the most ridiculous trade demands I’ve ever heard.

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    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      Is everyone on here who’s commenting that clueless? Do you ask for very little in return in December? Or do you ask for the moon in December just in case someone agrees to it and then lower the asking price as you get closer to April 1st? Which by the way is 2 1/2 months away LOL.

      I don’t understand the Uproar. If I have a car for sale that’s worth $10,000… aren’t I going to ask for 13 to start? Then if someone offers me 8 or 9 I take it next week? Am I so far off in my thinking?

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      • Black Ace57

        5 years ago

        No need to be rude to people.

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      • turner9

        5 years ago

        No. You’re on target with how good negotiators present offers etc

        But your analogy is a little off , I think in this case your 10,000 car and your 13,000 ask aren’t equivalent.

        They have a 10,000 car in Betts but want to attach an old beat up Ferrari that still has 3 years of payments to the tune of 30,000 and they are requiring you to take both for 20,000

        That’s what this article feels like to me, and likely the reason most people are joking about the ask from the sox

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        • Lets Go DBacks

          5 years ago

          @turner9

          That is still quite polite. Sounds like the Red Sox are more demanding 100,000 for a car that is worth just 10,000.
          You don’t even open any negotiations. GMs hang up the phone in just seconds.

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      • pplama

        5 years ago

        You OK, Gary?
        Seem a little angry. Or sad maybe?

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      • Payne Train

        5 years ago

        Someone pooped in Gary’s oatmeal

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      • martras

        5 years ago

        Teams aren’t looking at April 1st as a target date to have key components locked in. They want things pretty well locked in this month and definitely before Spring Training starts.

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      • thetruth 2

        5 years ago

        No you’re right.

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      • johnrealtime

        5 years ago

        Yeah Gary, people often don’t understand how these kinds of negotiation work. It doesn’t surprise me that most people don’t get it but I am surprised that people that choose to go to a website like this and comment also don’t

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          I don’t recommend agreeing with Gary. I think that dude may actually be Satan.

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        • turner9

          5 years ago

          Whoa, what did Gary do to you? Did he run over your dog or impregnate your wife?

          He explained below that he may have been a little harsh. Hes a die hard sox fan and is fed up. It doesn’t excuse it, but hes at least tried to mitigate and correct his previous statements

          Care to do the same?

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          Ok, so it’s cool he goes off on everyone for literally no reason?! Got it. I’ll make a note of that next time he goes off the rails and makes fun of innocent person after person. Good to know, it’s ok if Gary does this.

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          I find it comical that anyone would defend him. Since he’s a “fed up Red Sox fan” he can just go off and be a tool. That’s ridiculous. I suggest defending better causes than Captain Angry.

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        • turner9

          5 years ago

          You’re on an anonymous chat platform putting stock into how a user name treats other user names and using it as an excuse to also be rude and ignorant

          Instead or propagating stupidity and intolerance, try the flip side

          When you feed trolls they never die

          Also, outside of a few Toronto fans who post regularly, I don’t even look at the user who posted a comment or remember who posted what

          You’re putting too much of your life and time into caring about something soooooooo unimportant

          Hope that helps!

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      • bush1

        5 years ago

        Gary, you seem like a truly awful human being. Congrats on being such a jerkoff.

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    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      All I’m saying is that everybody is ripping the Red Sox for starting high with their ask. That’s all.

      Isn’t that how you’re supposed to do things? Start high work your way down till something Fair comes about?

      But I get it… maybe they’re asking waaaay too much. Fair enough.

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      • JoeBrady

        5 years ago

        Isn’t that how you’re supposed to do things? Start high work your way down till something Fair comes about?
        ———————————————————————–
        You start 10-20% too high, and work your way down. The RS, at least according to Olney (I don’t believe him), are asking for 100% over market. ‘Top prospects’ has no definition. But if the RS got, say Verdugo & Downs, they’d be doing well. But then the LAD would expect the RS to pay most of Price’s contract.

        You might get either, but you won’t get both.

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    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      Pooped in oatmeal, yeah a little bit.. sad, angry? Yeah a little bit. Ok, a lot.

      My Red Sox were crummy for sooo long.. the 70s only a couple bright spots, the entire 80s and 90s where very frustrating.

      Now that they’ve been good the last few years and then this cheating crap comes up. Kind of deflates the euphoria. Kind of a downer. Sorry.

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      • Payne Train

        5 years ago

        Lol I went from Annoyed to feeling sorry for you. Cheer up, I mean you guys do have one of the coolest parks in the MLB ?? 🙂

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    • Buck Jones

      5 years ago

      Yeah,only DD does that trade.Lol

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    • GaryWarriorsRedSoxx

      5 years ago

      @bush1 thanks for the feedback.. I’ll take it. I’ve actually been called worse, but your point is made. Thank you.

      And seriously, the worst thing is when you post something and there’s no comments, no likes (or in the past, dislikes,) and not a sniff of interest in anything you said. Like they say…, bad press is better than no press lol.

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      • bush1

        5 years ago

        Well I’m not sure if you sobered up, or just calmed down, but at least you seem like a real person now. I’m a Cubs fan, so it’s hard for me to sympathize with anyone treating others like that for no reason because your “fed up”. Is it really that bad? Sure, it’s probably annoying that they may deal Betts and have to reset the payroll, but it’s not that bad. Come on.. Hopefully it’s a learning experience.

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  11. hyraxwithaflamethrower

    5 years ago

    Counter-offer: we’ll wait a year, keep all of our prospects, *not* take on Price’s albatross deal, and give you a draft pick.

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    • Triteon

      5 years ago

      Exactly

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    • phillip beasley

      5 years ago

      Haha! Odds of the Dodgers giving Betts $400 mil next year are very slim.

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  12. delete

    5 years ago

    His big season correlated with the Red Sox cheating scandal. I wonder how much that is deflating his trade value.

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    • tmottb

      5 years ago

      that’s a good point to keep in mind amid the complaints that Manfred didn’t discipline players in the cheating scandal. Whether they participated in the cheating or not, Astros and Red Sox hitters are going to find their value called into question when it comes time for free agency or arbitration… likewise if their current team wants to trade them.

      Ultimately, being linked to the scandal could cost many players millions of $ in lost income, regardless of whatever immunity Manfred may have granted them.

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      • eddiemathews

        5 years ago

        The New Colorado

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      • luckyh

        5 years ago

        Lol like roids did? They’ll be fine.

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  13. king beas

    5 years ago

    Betts for Conforto matz and andres gimenez

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    • phenomenalajs

      5 years ago

      Unless Mets can sign him long term, I don’t see that happening.

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      • thetruth 2

        5 years ago

        BVW:”oh it is, but I have to throw in Nimmo”

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  14. 0707-Bosox

    5 years ago

    Not at all.

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  15. puigpower

    5 years ago

    No wonder we didn’t make this trade

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  16. GOP Lizards

    5 years ago

    Other teams should just wait them out. Let BS sit on the consequences of their bad contracts. Betts costs no prospects in 1 year.

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    • dlevin11

      5 years ago

      Agree

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  17. canadianyankee

    5 years ago

    Yes you can have my Mercedes for two of your BMWs…but you gotta take this $7000 toaster that only toasts one side of the bread…hello? Hello?

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    • BartoloHRball

      5 years ago

      I want to know more about this $7,000 toaster. Does it have multiple toasting settings? Will it take regular bread or just gluten free? How is the iphone app for it? When I try and buy it off of Goop.com, should I get the extended warranty?

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  18. greg 14

    5 years ago

    whole thing is a joke. BOS is trying to spin writers to induce some team to do something stupid. One year of Betts at market rate is worth one solid prospect. Since you can recoup that next year when you give him a QO. That’s it. Attach Price and all you get back is a bunch of used baseballs. If that. LAD – Betts and Price for Pollack.

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    • Cooperdooper7

      5 years ago

      Writers put this BS out because they have no story and have to put something out there…. and fools like you believe it…. By the way— I wouldn’t trade a bag of balls for Pollack.

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    • bush1

      5 years ago

      Attaching Price makes Betts have negative trade value and no team would give up anything other than another awful contract.

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      • butch779988

        5 years ago

        You have no clue

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        • baines03

          5 years ago

          He is correct. Betts + $20 million + price’s contract is still underwater.

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        • bush1

          5 years ago

          No, you have absolutely zero clue it seems. You are the Type of guy who tell others they don’t know what they’re talking about when it’s blatantly obvious you don’t understand a thing. Good job..

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  19. Cooperdooper7

    5 years ago

    I’ll Say it again….. any of you fools believe this crap… just another rehashed story….. Sox are not trading Betts. If they want to keep him long term, which I believe they do, they will not get outbid for him next offseason…. and somebody will take Price off their hands at some point in time in the future… but not the full contract no matter who is attached with it in a trade.

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    • butch779988

      5 years ago

      Exactly

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    • thetruth 2

      5 years ago

      Betts repeatedly said he son’t sign an extension. Read between the lines: he doesn’t like Boston. He’s leaving as a free agent and players like him don’t age well. He’s leaving either way, the Red Sox would trade him just hard to find a team willing to take his salary, only have him for a year and give up good prospects that allows Boston to still contend in 2020.

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  20. dlevin11

    5 years ago

    Most teams probably looking to see how Price is pitching before making a Betts and Price deal. Trading just before deadline also saves half their salaries.

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    • Cooperdooper7

      5 years ago

      Betts has never said he won’t stay with the Red Sox and he has never said he doesn’t like Boston (he is treated like a god in the City)…. what he did say is he wants to get to Free Agency based on seeing what his fair market Salary will be…. which is smart.. So keep Assuming or reading between the lines that you know everything… fact is you really don’t know anything more than anyone else.and you are ignorant to think otherwise.

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  21. peterdipersio06

    5 years ago

    How about Betts and Price for Pedro Baez and Justin Turner ?

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  22. bbatardo

    5 years ago

    This is why he won’t be traded lol. Kind of seems like ownership came up with the ask.

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  23. bush1

    5 years ago

    A team taking on Betts and most of Price’s money at this point in the offseason is ridiculous. No team can will take on close to $50 million at this point. It’s laughable.

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    • Rallyshirt

      5 years ago

      Pretty sure this announcement is cut specifically for Theo’s consideration.

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      • bush1

        5 years ago

        Theo has done many idiotic things. That’s relevant to this topic how?

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  24. luckyh

    5 years ago

    Aim high. Look what they got on the Nick Punto trade.

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  25. oneiblnd

    5 years ago

    I wonder if The Yankees are interested?…. Just kidding. No worries in Yankee land.

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  26. UhOh!

    5 years ago

    Want in one and……… see which one gets filled first.

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  27. All American Johnsonville Dogs

    5 years ago

    Tom Tucker: Here’s Ollie Williams with the report on how much the Red Sox are asking for Mookie Betts. Ollie?

    Ollie: “THEYRE ASKING A LOT”

    Tom Tucker: Thank you Ollie.

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  28. metsie1

    5 years ago

    LOL. Why would anyone give Boston anything for Betts AND take on the albatross that is Price’s contract? I mean you can’t blame Boston for trying but a team would have to be completely insane.

    Something like yeah let’s bail the Sox out AND help clear out their other salary problem while also letting them start a rebuild. Not gonna happen.

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  29. Scrap1ron

    5 years ago

    No one is looking to help the Red Sox out. They are stuck with Price’s contract.

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    • thetruth 2

      5 years ago

      They’ll trade him.

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  30. Ducey

    5 years ago

    BOS might be able to trade Price to the Jays, but BOS would need to eat a little salary and throw a prospect in to compensate for the $96 million and questionable performance/ injury history.

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    • Scrap1ron

      5 years ago

      Price might be moved at the trade deadline if he can pitch effectively and stay healthy till then. Big ifs.

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  31. SG

    5 years ago

    Sounds like the way to go.
    Package Betts and Price together and demand 2 draft picks.
    If you get an offer consider it.
    If you don’t the hang on to them.
    It’s a no brainer.

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  32. JoeBrady

    5 years ago

    Feels like Olney is making it up. There are too many vague generalities.

    1-Two ‘high-end’ prospects. High end as in Ruiz & May, or high-end as in Gray & Downs, both top-100?

    2-All or most of Price’s salary. Most means >50%.

    So the range of Olney’s article ranges from a high of May + Ruiz + 100% of Prices salary (impossible), to a low of Gray + Downs + 51% of Price’s salary, (which is a weak return). The only take-away from the article is that Betts is likely on the block, which we likely already knew.

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  33. bjsguess

    5 years ago

    In other news, the Red Sox will not trade Price/Betts. In other news, the Red Sox were never interested in trading Price/Betts.

    It’s certainly their prerogative, but to even suggest they are shopping the players is disingenuous. They are $45M underwater on Price’s deal. There’s maybe $10M in excess value in Betts deal. Combined they are $35M underwater AND they want two premier prospects (valued at $20-$50M). Good luck with that.

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  34. amk3510

    5 years ago

    So basically they want you to pay 117 million for 1 year of Betts and give up two good prospects. Yeah sure Chaim. Well talk again at the trade deadline when Boston is treading water and the sight of Betts leaving is clear.

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  35. martras

    5 years ago

    I think “high end” prospects probably means guys in a team’s top 10, but not elite prospects. I think it’s fair. Price, for all the hate, is still a well better than average pitcher, just not worth his contract. Betts is worth his contract and then some, but has only this year of control.

    Trading Betts or Price signals a bit of a punt on 2020. Neither one on their own gives Boston any flexibility and losing either is a net loss to the overall performance of the team. Right now, Boston could compete for the playoffs. With neither, Boston wouldn’t be expected to be a front runner in 2020 and could invest in a fast rebuild.

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  36. dirkg

    5 years ago

    Given the skepticism surrounding the Astros, we all know the Red Sox are next. Betts’ 2017 :: 2018 :: 2019 numbers are head scratching to say the least. His 2018 numbers show a huge spike; especially in slugging (parenthesis show comparisons to 2018 numbers)…
    …
    2017: .264 AVG (82 pts less), .344 OBP (94 pts less) .459 SLG (181 pts less)
    2018: .346 AVG, .438 OBP,, .640 SLG
    2019: .295 AVG (51 less), .391 (47 pts less), .524 (116 pts less)
    …
    These are still solid numbers for sure, but they do bring to light some pondering. Something was going as Alex Cora lost his job for a reason. In any case, they bring enough pause to pump the brakes on trading the farm for one year of Mookie Betts.

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    • thetruth 2

      5 years ago

      He just had a ridiculously high BABIP in 2018, and a low one in 2018. 2019 is close to the middle between the two and features a regular BABIP.

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      • Priggs89

        5 years ago

        The BABIP jump wasn’t a complete fluke. He made significantly better contact in 2018 than 2017 (2019 was similar) and pulled the ball more. It’s almost like he knew what was coming.

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  37. towinagain

    5 years ago

    Still say the Padres are the best trade partner for the Sox.

    Take on Myers contract to offset Price/Betts and they can garner a top pick but also re-stock their farm in quantity.

    The Pads farm is so deep that there is substantial value in lesser known prospects.

    Essentially Myers for Betts is a wash but fills both teams needs.

    Myers at least gives the Sox another option in the OF who could thrive in a hitter friendly Fenway and who has had success in the AL.

    Price gives the Pads much needed veteran leadership in their rotation.

    Betts can provide a good amount of quality prospects to bolster the farm for the Sox.

    Betts(although only one year) gives the Pads a shot in the arm so to speak. Coupled with Pham, the Padres would now have a very formidable lineup, possibly wild card worthy. If they aren’t in contention Betts is traded at the deadline and recoups the talent lost. Also the Padres are un line to restock their farm due to another down year so there is little to no risk of one year of Betts.

    Trade works for both clubs.

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    • thetruth 2

      5 years ago

      not bad

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    • All American Johnsonville Dogs

      5 years ago

      Red Sox get Myers, Margot or Cordero, Yates, Trammell, Morejon (to replace Price), Miller, Potts, Baez, and Bolanos

      Padres get Betts and Price.

      Redsox pick up their “elite prospect” for Betts plus mlb ready assets that fill team needs- Baez Yates Bolanos slot into the pen and Morejon slots into the rotation. Miller and Potts give them infield depth to choose from.

      Padres get the shot in the arm and veteran leadership they need in the rotation. Betts Grisham and Pham with Cordero or Margot as the 4th.

      Just leaves 2B and C open. But strong believer in Vosler or Quiroz winning the job vs Profar or France.

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      • Javia

        5 years ago

        Padres will not add $57 million to this year’s payroll. They also will not give up the best reliever in the game, a top 30 prospect they just traded for and Morejon for 1 year of Betts and another underwater contract. They are already dying to get out from under Myers contract. You really think they will triple down? Add $60 million to the $20 million they are already trying to dump?

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        • JoeBrady

          5 years ago

          You need to read the entire post. He said:

          “Red Sox get Myers,” Myers is a worse contract than Price.

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        • Tomfromsd

          5 years ago

          I’m a Padre fan and I’d be tempted by that trade. Losing Yates would suck but we get 2 good players without touching Gore or Patino.

          They’re only taking on Betts’ salary for one year, so the finacial impact of that is limited. And while Price is way overpaid, he’s at least useful. Myers is overpaid and useless.

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  38. BlueSkyLA

    5 years ago

    Why is the reply button missing from all of my posts?

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    • turner9

      5 years ago

      It’s been happening to me all day too

      I posted to mr Todd alerting him of this, but no response as of yet

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  39. towinagain

    5 years ago

    Addendum to my previous post. Myers for Price is a wash.

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    • martras

      5 years ago

      If Myers was a free agent this year, he’d be settling for a minor league contract with an invite to Spring Training. He’s AAA replacement level.

      Price is still a well above average rotation arm.

      Not a wash.

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      • JoeBrady

        5 years ago

        I can see Myers as part of the deal, just to even out some payroll. But I too much prefer the Price contract to the Myers contract.

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          Padres are not going to increase payroll. Even if they get rid of Myers in this deal, that is still an additional $37 million in payroll. Yates is worthless to the Sox if they are not planning to compete this year. He has huge value to the Padres. All Price would do is block premium pitching prospects from making it to the major leagues. The Padres would lose their CF of the future. This trade would screw the Padres 6 different ways. All for what, 1 year of Betts? It MIGHT be worth it if you think he might get them to the WS. I don’t think he is enough, do you?
          Some team might, MIGHT be willing to take David Price’s contract if it came with Betts attached. They might even throw in a low level prospect or two. The Padres are not one of the teams that would.

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        • sdnative

          5 years ago

          Nobody saw the Pads signing Manny for 300M either i think they can and should spend the extra 37M for this year worth the gamble for the right return. I agree with you tho Price will block a young arm but we’re full of young talent that deserve starting time. Yates isn’t going anywhere that doesn’t make sense

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          I was talking to All American Johnsonville Dogs.

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        • Tomfromsd

          5 years ago

          Probably stating the obvious here, but prospects are only just a bet on potnetial. Plenty don’t pan out. I don’t think we should shy away from trading young arms, or be worried about blocking young arms, unless they are absolutely can’t miss prospects. Pitching wise, Gore and Patino may qualify, but beyond those 2, none of them are surefire rotation candidates.

          Looking at our rotation, we’ve got an injury prone Richards, an inconsistent Lamet returning from injury, the likes of Zach Davies, Lucchesi/Quantrill etc. How many of those pitchers are sure bets? Even with Price in the fold, there would be as many as 3 rotation spots up for grabs from next year onwards. Plenty of opportunities even with Price there.

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        • sdnative

          5 years ago

          That being said a year ago Patino was just a unknown prospect but really developed same thing can happen with the next wave of young arms its all a roll of the dice, some players need a year or two to come around (Anthony Rizzo) but bottom line is Betts is in a contract year he might never be hungrier and SD needs a vet to mentor these young cowboys. Get it done Preller

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        • Javia

          5 years ago

          Thank g*d you guys are not in charge of the Padres! We are not going to the World Series next year. If you make that trade, what happens after next year? SD has no CF with Trammell and Margot gone. You gave up 3 depth starters, so now Gore and Patino HAVE TO work out, and right away. Right now Quantrill is next up in case of injury to a starter. Who is after him? Gore and Patino and nothing else. What if they aren’t ready? What if they don’t work out? Then SD is screwed. It’s guaranteed we are going to need at least 2 and possibly as many as 4-5 replacement starters every year. But you just traded them all. Probably Patino to. To rely on an old man close to the end of his pitching career and being paid $30 million. All for Betts. For 2020 only. If we are trying to win the WS in 2020 that’s fine. If not, you are screwing our future for 1 year of a “possibility” at a playoff shot.
          Rentals are worth almost nothing. Every team knows it now. Half of the teams in mlb are selling rental stars for premium prospects. You may notice that not one of those stars have been traded. Maybe every single GM in baseball has a better idea of how the market works than we do.

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        • sdnative

          5 years ago

          Trammell is NOT part of the equation, no thanks. Gore and Patino aren’t even in the discussion, they get promoted when they’re good and ready. It’s entirely possible Betts falls in love with the team and the city and decides to make it his permanent home after next season which would be amazing since he’s in the discussion as a top 10 player. It’s entirely possible Price will be a serviceable journeyman who the staff can lean on for mentoring the abundance of young pitchers we have. FOR THE RIGHT PRICE, this deal makes sense not at the expense of top 50 prospect talent.

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  40. madmc44

    5 years ago

    If the Sox could pick up Turner, Seager, Maeda and Baez from the Dodgers for Betts & Price and prospects. Install Turner at 1 B or move Devers to 1 B and Turner to 3 B. Including Price offsets the price of including Turner. Including Dalbec, Groome or Chavis to make it more of a blockbuster should also bring back 1 or 2 Dodger prospects close to Major League Ready. Sox need young pitching prospects.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      5 years ago

      Not in the neighborhood of sane or rational for the Dodgers. Not even in the right zip code.

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  41. Bert17

    5 years ago

    Seems like there’s such an obvious solution. Send them to the Dodgers and eat money by taking A.J. Pollack back. The Dodgers want to dump his bad contract, which is around $50M over 4 years. It’s way more than the Sox would otherwise eat, but it has 3 huge advantages for them:

    1) It’s spread out over 4 years so is effectively much less money because it leaves them so far under the luxury tax;

    2) they get a major league outfielder back to replace Betts this year and possibly JBJ next year when they go back into the market for free agents (maybe even Betts);

    3) All that eaten money makes Price into a legitimate trade asset who increases the return on the Betts trade, not decreases it.

    If they want 2 top prospects for Betts, maybe they’d be able to add a b-plus prospect or two plus some major league depth, both of which the Dodgers are overflowing with: Say May, Verdugo, and Cartaya for Betts; Stripling and Downs for the Price/Pollack swap. Sox rotation would improve now and in the long run; their outfield would be a lot worse now, but a lot better in the long run (right now, Benny is the only outfielder they have after 2020); and they get 2 prospects who’d easily be in their top 5.

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    • BlueSkyLA

      5 years ago

      We have not heard a single peep about the Dodgers wanting out on Pollock. The remaining contract is three years plus an option.

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  42. Bruin1012

    5 years ago

    The Red Sox shouldn’t trade Betts or Price until spring training starts at the very least.

    I think teams want to see how Price throws before looking to trade for him. It is best just to wait at this point it is a risk for the Red Sox if can’t throw or goes on the injured list right away then you are stuck with him but it is a calculated risk.

    Betts is whole different animal altogether start with him and see if one of the contenders has an injury then maybe someone will bite and give up the package that the Sox want.

    Worse case scenario Price turns out to be on a down slide and you can’t move him and you play the string out with Betts but even in worse case scenario you won’t go over 248 million and you won’t lose 10 spots in the draft and international spending money.

    The beat case scenario is twofold Price and Sale are healthy everyone hits and pitches as expected and the Red Sox are World Series contenders. If that doesn’t happen then you will have one if not the biggest deadline trade chip.

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  43. gorav114

    5 years ago

    I’m not sure waiting to the deadline will at all help the Sox. If a team is to sacrifice such a high ask for Betts then you would assume they would at least want him for a full season. If Price is having a mediocre year then no way a team parts with anything and takes on his remaining contract. I think a deal could be made where a team takes on all of Price’s salary but not reasonable to expect a top prospect too. Red Sox should be scouting possible teams low A ball to look for a hidden gem to include instead of asking for a top prospect

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  44. Clayton Russell

    5 years ago

    If I’m the Dodgers, I’m waiting to see what non-cheating Mookie’s numbers look like for a month or two before trading for him. He’s definitely a great hitter and fielder, cheating or not, but I tend to think he’s more of a top 20 hitter than a top 5 guy. He was 19th in wOBA last year and has only been in the top 15 for a year once (and that was the year where it looks like his team was cheating). He’s certainly a great fielder and an all-star level player, but this idea that he is elite doesn’t seem to be backed up by the numbers to this point in his career when you consider the cheating.

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    • Cooperdooper7

      5 years ago

      comments like this are just so ignorant…. Wait to see what non-cheating Mookie’s numbers look like…. come on man…. really? Typical moron who believes everything written and reported as accurate… news flash…. not everything is but keep jumping to conclusions. Rafael Devers and Xander Bogearts had better #’s 2019 then 2018…. so what is your argument about that? People who form opinions based on #’s from year to year are missing the boat and the freaking analytic Geeks the couldn’t hit a 70 mph fastball should STFU stop ruining baseball with all this crap. Does analytics have value… sure… but just as part of the equation.

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      • JoeBrady

        5 years ago

        You’re over-reacting. In an otherwise consistent career, the 186 OPS+ stands out quite a bit. You are allowed to question it.

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    • Triteon

      5 years ago

      If you believe the Sox have been cheating since 2015, I see your point. But if you think it started with Cora in 2018, then look at Betts’ numbers for 2015-17 — and 4 GG — as a comparison. I’ll confidently keep Betts in my top-5.

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  45. BartoloHRball

    5 years ago

    Price is owed 3/$96.
    Robinson Cano is owed 4/$96.

    Bad contract trade + Betts with 2 mid-tier prospects. It’s not a great deal, but no team is going to take on $96m AND give up 2 top-tier prospects for Betts and Price. Cano playing after a day off he raked last year. Let him play 3 times per week and he could be a decently useful piece for the Red Sox who can DH him at least 1 day per week. He’ll produce better than Myers, so there is that.

    An alternative trade…Wilson Ramos ($9.25m) + 1-2 prospects from the Mets #10-#20 prospects for Betts and Price + $40m. This assumes Betts has ~$10m of excess value, which basically covers Ramos’ money. Price’s $96m gets reduced to $56m. $56m over 3 is about what Keuchel received, which is about where I put Price if I’m being somewhat optimistic.

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    • JoeBrady

      5 years ago

      No & No.

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      • its_happening

        5 years ago

        Since I can’t reply below…

        Grichuk replaces Bradley and plays RF with Betts moving to CF. That’s a boost offensively. Giles is your closer. Big boost there. Boston needs a backup OF, enter Fisher. Shoemaker becomes Steven Wright and Murphy goes to AAA. Gives your Red Sox one more run in 2020 before Betts leaves. If you’re looking for prospects in a deal involving Bradley and Price, good luck.

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  46. its_happening

    5 years ago

    Price, Bradley, Casas, Shawaryn, Song and $27-mil ($7-mil in 2020, $10-mil in both 2021 and 2022), for Grichuk, Giles, Fisher, Shoemaker and Murphy.

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    • JoeBrady

      5 years ago

      Except for Giles, it looks like you are trying to empty your bench.

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    • phillip beasley

      5 years ago

      That has the be the worst trade offer I’ve ever seen lol

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  47. Clayton Russell

    5 years ago

    Cooperdooper, (not letting me reply there) Take a breath man, I said he was still a great player. Commenters are saying he’s the 2nd best position player and I just think he’s closer to 10th (or closer to 20th in terms of just hitting). There’s nothing ignorant about that. As far as Bogaerts, who knows? We don’t know when the cheating really stopped and we may never know. It could also just be a normal variation in his results. And wOBA is a straightforward stat, there’s nothing weird going on in the calculation, it’s just telling you how successful they were as a batter. 2019 Betts was still a great player and I think that’s likely more descriptive of who he is than the year where they were definitely cheating. But, he makes 27 million this year–he isn’t some bargain player that has a ton of trade value.

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  48. jim stem

    5 years ago

    Betts and Price to the Mets for Syndergaard, Diaz, Gsellman, Matz Nimmo and Smith? That might need two or three minor leaguers to round off, but the Sox get 6 major leaguers in return. They take on Diaz’ salary and the arbitration opportunities of Syndergaard and Matz. Is that too much payroll for Sox or too much talent from the Mets? This might actually lopsided in the Mets favor.

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    • JoeBrady

      5 years ago

      As a RS fan, I will drive Betts to Shea Stadium myself.

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    • BartoloHRball

      5 years ago

      You think that package “might actually lopside[ed] in the Mets favor.” Uhm….that’s probably not true. Not even a little bit. This is a rental. Your package is approaching young superstar in their prime and signed to a reasonable deal for 3-4+ years.

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  49. sdnative

    5 years ago

    Cmon Padres and Redsox, we all know this makes sense for the both of you. Excite fans in San Diego maybe even challenge the Dodgers for the division (ya I said it!) and Boston breaks free of some bad contract and gets back on track next year. Maybe even sign Betts after the season, who knows. Let’s count the beans, find a fair compromise (no not 2 top prospects and all of DP contract let’s get real) and get er done.

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    • JoeBrady

      5 years ago

      I agree. Padres probably match up best. They have a few Lucchesi types, #3/4, not all of whom can start. They have Baez & Morejon, and you’re not sure if either are SPs or good RPs. You have Naylor who is likely a 1B or DH.

      Even a guy like Myers, because of the way the contract is set up, is worth more to the RS than SD.

      If I’m the RS, this is what I start with:

      CF-Margot (makes JBJ and easy trade
      RF-Myers (replaces Betts)
      1B-Naylor
      SP-Lucchesi (replaces Price)
      SP-Patino
      RP-Morejob or Baez

      That weakens the RS considerably, but adds maybe $37M in AAV. for Betts & Price, plus another $8M in savings for Margot>JBJ. And except for Patino, the SDP won’t even blink at the other guys.

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      • Javia

        5 years ago

        In that trade the Sox would be extremely lucky just to get Morejon or Baez along with the rest. The conversation absolutely stops at Patino. He goes nowhere for 1 year of Betts. Not even close.

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  50. bjupton100

    5 years ago

    I do think he’s an elite player. It’s more of a total package than one thing but his 10 war season puts him in the conversation. Rays would match up well but I doubt they’d want to help Boston out. Price, JBJ, and $63,000,000 for Yarborough, a 25-30 prospect and two low level fringe lottery ticket types. Might seem light but Yarborough vs Price over the next three years most would take Yarborough for about $30,000,000 less. Boston will trade Mookie and that could persuade Jd to opt out or demand a trade. They’ll trade or extend Mookie here real soon so we’ll wait until then. Mookie almost resets their luxury tax on his own so Tb might decide to get value. Price I think could be elite (or close to it) for one of the next three seasons basically on a Morton contract almost matching the results. JBJ gives the Rays a Cf/4th outfielder and a chance at parlaying him into another asset. JBJ and $3,000,000 after he is able to reestablish his value to SD or another team.

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    • Clayton Russell

      5 years ago

      You make good points and while I said he wasn’t elite in my other comment, I was probably wrong there as if he’s the 10th best position player in the league, that should still probably qualify as elite. However, cheating or not, that 10 war season was propped up by a 1.8 dWAR and his defense has been on a significant decline, numbers-wise, over the last few years. It doesn’t seem likely to me he’ll ever get back over 8 WAR in a season. 6.5 WAR is still great, still worth 27 Million, but not worth 27 million and a bunch of high-value prospects in my mind. However, 13.5 million for the pennant race and the postseason is a different story, so I think he makes a lot of sense as a July trade target for just about any team, assuming the Sox aren’t still in it by then.

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  51. bjupton100

    5 years ago

    *Yarborough for about sixty million not thirty million less.

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  52. Ebouch25

    5 years ago

    I am a Red Sox fan, but as good as a year Mookie had in 2018, you cannot ignore his playoff stats. As soon as MLB put people in the replay room, his stats plummeted. I have always wanted them to get rid of him because his size. He is definitely overrated.

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    • Clayton Russell

      5 years ago

      That’s a good point. Getting to hit against the Orioles and Blue Jays 38 games probably inflates those regular-season numbers the last couple of years. Although the Minnesota and Cleveland hitters have to have the most inflated numbers with their schedule.

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  53. emac22

    5 years ago

    Any team that pays that price deserves to lose.

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  54. bigcheesegrilledontoast

    5 years ago

    The Price is wrong, b**ch…..
    Just visualize happy Gilmore scenario but replace Bob Barker with Bloom.

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  55. bloomquist4hof

    5 years ago

    If I was a GM, even as good as Betts is, I’d stop negotiations at a mid top 100 prospect and a couple lower level pieces, without Price attached. I cant see more than that, not for one year at arb-3.

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  56. Tomfromsd

    5 years ago

    Probably stating the obvious here, but prospects are only just a bet on potential. Plenty don’t pan out. I don’t think we should shy away from trading young arms, or be worried about blocking young arms, unless they are absolutely can’t miss prospects. Pitching wise, Gore and Patino may qualify, but beyond those 2, none of them are surefire rotation candidates.

    Looking at our rotation, we’ve got an injury prone Richards, an inconsistent Lamet returning from injury, the likes of Zach Davies, Lucchesi/Quantrill etc. How many of those pitchers are sure bets? Even with Price in the fold, there would be as many as 3 rotation spots up for grabs from next year onwards. Plenty of opportunities even with Price there.

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