TODAY: Herrera has cleared waivers and been outrighted to Triple-A, the Phillies announced.
JANUARY 14: The Phillies announced Tuesday that center fielder Odubel Herrera has been designated for assignment. His 40-man roster spot will go to Nick Martini, whom the Phillies have claimed off waivers from the Reds.
Not long ago, such a move would’ve been unthinkable for the Phils, who extended Herrera on a five-year, $30.5MM deal spanning the 2017-21 seasons. However, Herrera sat out the the final 85 games of the 2019 season under a domestic violence suspension, and even when he was on the field in 2019, he failed to produce at the plate or with the glove. After batting .281/.325/.452 and drawing strong defensive marks across the board as recently as 2017, Herrera turned in an awful .222/.288/.341 line in 2019 with below-average marks from Ultimate Zone Rating, Defensive Runs Saved and Outs Above Average.
While Herrera has played poorly in each of the past two seasons, he might well have been given another chance in 2020 were it not for the charges levied against him and the subsequent suspension. He’s still owed a hefty $19.5MM under that aforementioned extension, but the Phils are apparently willing to eat the remainder of that contract to cut ties with Herrera.
During Herrera’s absence, he was surpassed on the depth chart by former No. 8 overall pick Adam Haseley, who debuted with a .266/.324/.396 slash line and plus defensive ratings (per DRS, UZR and OAA) — all of which look to be improvements over Herrera’s 2018-19 play. The Phils could yet look to add a platoon partner for the left-handed-hitting Haseley, or they could play the versatile Scott Kingery in center field against tough lefties. Speedy Roman Quinn remains on hand as an option as well, and he’ll surely make the club given that he’s out of minor league options.
Martini himself will give the Phils another option at any of the three outfield spots, as he has at least 1900 minor league innings in left, center and right field. The left-handed-hitting Martini has been a veritable on-base machine in the upper minors, hitting at a robust .305/.401/.435 clip in parts of five Triple-A seasons.
While he doesn’t hit for much power, Martini has walked in 13.5 percent of his career plate appearances in Triple-A. That general profile has carried over to the big leagues, where in 288 plate appearances between the Padres and A’s, Martini has slashed .269/.372/.380. He still has a minor league option remaining, so Martini will give the Phillies some roster flexibility in addition to his intriguing on-base prowess.
The Phillies will have a week to trade Herrera, put him on outright waivers or release him. It’s likely that they’ve tried and failed to find a taker for his services prior to designating him for assignment, though, and he’ll surely go unclaimed on waivers. He doesn’t yet have five years of MLB service, so while he could reject an outright assignment, doing so would mean forfeiting the remainder of his contract, which obviously won’t happen. If the Phils wish to retain him, they could outright him to Triple-A Lehigh Valley. If not, the likeliest outcome is that they’ll simply release Herrera, at which point any club would be able to sign him for the league minimum (which would be subtracted from the sum owed to him by the Phillies). Whether he’d even draw interest at that minimal level of commitment remains to be seen, however.
Herrera is very talented, but there’s a lot of baggage there. This is the right move for the Phillies even though it makes them worse. I think they should have kept Dickerson around.
100% should have kept Dickerson.
even now Dickerson doesn’t really fit, and even now there are much bigger needs at pitching.
You’re not wrong, but I think people tend to forget the Phillies offense struggled just as much as their pitching last year. Dickerson was a hitting machine when he came to the team.
Right, but when Cutch went down, he was our starting LF. With Harper/Cutch occupying the corners, there’s not really a starting spot for him, which I’m sure he was interested in.
Yeah. My thought process was moving Cutch or Harper to center, but Harper played an excellent RF last year and a bad CF the year before in WSH. So I wouldn’t really mess with that.
There’s no room for Dickerson and so he’s on the Marlins now.
Agree with you on the pitching but Corey is a steal and his profile fit that park. Surprised we havent been more active on the trade market for some pitching. Nick Williams and his 1.5mil couldn’t bring us back a reliever from a bat needy team like Detroit or Cleveland?
elscorcho the marlin
Nick Williams can’t hit. Those teams would still be bat needy. Cleveland does not need another hitting challenged outfielder. Indians say no thank you.
Way to go
Agree… Dickerson has talent and experience. It could go a long way during the season.
I third that, my wife fourth’s it
The need to move Cutch to LF — with Halsey in CF and Harper locked into RF — pretty much ended any chance to keep Dickerson.
Martini is super underrated. No power, but an OBP machine who can play a decent COF.
I would have liked that but there’s no fit. If he could play CF that would be perfect and I’d agree we should have signed him back.
He won’t be missed. Fundamentally flawed and undisciplined. He overachieved for a while but he was eventually exposed.
Herrera I meant, to be clear
Can he be coached up? Is he worth a AAA flyer? Asking for a friend… o.o
Still one of the best Rule 5 selections of all time.
Down with OBP
Someone tell Cashman now that the Astros won’t be competing for his services.
The comments aren’t off for this post?
Everybody be good now.
Haha. Mrs. Schwarber it’s a pleasure to have your presence amongst us savages
DM me for her digits
It’s a DFA, he didn’t die
Usually the comments have been off bc of the domestic violence part.
everyone knows what the situation is now. this is beyond arguinh about his actions, his punishment is up.
I see the logic in releasing him as bad energy to last years failure, but he wouldve been a good 26th man with his speed, and I think he’s too stupid to overthink pitch hitting. Wouldve liked to have seen him redeem himself
Way to go
Did you say redeem. He has gone a long way to let everyone that he is wealthy and privileged. Now, he can go back to the farm and live like a king. He has no desire to redeem himself.
Kapler brings him to SF ? Hard to believe the fanbase there would go for it with his baggage though.
Odubel’s showings while Kapler was the GM probably didn’t enthuse him all that much.
When was Kapler the GM?
derp, sorry about that. manager
Like they did with BONDS?
His father was a fan favorite there, along with another guy you might have heard of, who was also his godfather, different situation
Context is hard for some minds.
Like they did Larry Baer when beat his wife in public.
He beat his wife?
He aggressively grabbed a phone from her, but she was talking badly about him with her mother. She then fell off a chair, dropped a chocolate malted and split her pants.
in Stockton, we call that a nice.date.
Stockton, CA.? Not a pleasant city, according to a friend who lives there.
Coffee out the nose, thanks!
Yes she took his phone, wouldn’t give it back then caught on video, bad deal all around & pretty embarrassing,
Big glove, I gave you a liked…I shouldn’t have… I laughed out loud… shouldn’t have..I feel ashamed.. NICE JOB BY YOU! (*_^)
If there’s one place Odubel might fit in, it’s SF. First they need outfielders, and secondly, any city that can elect Nancy Pelosi year after year after year for almost 40 years obviously ain’t too choosy about flawed characters and baggage.
Political turd in the pool. Nice job.
I’m sure your standards are quite high Louie
Lou Orlando, do you also go by the name Florida Man?
They all love Pillar despite his homophobic comments.
Way to go
I would love for Kapler to bring a baggage project to SF. Like he won’t have his hands full. Well he will get haircuts, transplants of all kinds and a full time female coach. Kapler and Herrara deserve each other. I have no love lost for either one. One is a BS artist and the other doesn’t understand Englsih…
It’ll be interesting to see if the Phillies attach a prospect to dump the salary
if that were a possibility it would have been done by now.
Seems like they would haven’t already been able to do that if they foresaw them having to DFA him. His value was higher then before being DFA’d.
Martini = AAAA
i think martini can be a solid 4/5 in the OF, but this team really doenst need that. we need more pitching, not a guy 5th OF on a team with 5 guys already locked into majors spots.
He has an option left.He’s basically insurance for Haseley and Quinn,and there’s definitely a need there.
Wrong, he’s an OBP machine who deserves an everyday shot. He’s way better than a lot of the scrubs on various rosters. Solid defense and he’s scoring 140 runs if he plays everyday.
He wouldn’t score 140 runs. He could score 100 if he played everyday.
Without focusing on Herrera per se, Klentak has really thrown a lot of Middleton’s money in the garbage can.
Sad but true. Some of it was bad luck (Robertson comes to mind), but the fact remains, a lot of money for nothing.
just hoping that after this year, with this issue handled and Arrieta’s salery mostly gone theyll be able to make bigger changes. was always going to be a hard mountain to climb to really improve this offseason given these factors, but a better coaching staff and the improvements they did make should at least help a decent bit. couple that with the fact that most of the other teams in the NL East have been more finding replacements for departed players than upgrading and the team certainly looks more like a legitimate WC contender, even if the division is probably out of reach. (which isnt a knock on them in my mind, given just how good the Braves are)
Sounds like a song I know.
I’ve been saying this for three years: MK is in way over his head. His pay grade is several notches below GM.
Way to go
Guess he didn’t have the right player cards in his old deck. He looks like a kid who traded baseball cards when he was a teenager. Klentak says all the right things, but they aren’t convincing. He is playing with someone else’s money.
guess that’s why Middleton doesnt want to spend any more this year. at least this allows for more cap space next year.
They’re actually in pretty good shape for 2021, but I don’t know if the fans can wait another year.
I think they still have to count this against the luxury tax for 2020 and 2021..
released players count only against the current luxury tax, no?
Now that Herrera has been outrighted, MLB will exclude his salary from luxury tax threshold calculations unless and until Herrera is added back to the 40-man roster.
Yasmamy Tomas and Rusney Castillo have not counted toward their teams’ calculations since being exiled in AAA, either.
It counts over the life of the contract, so two more years of this counting against the CBT thresholds.
There is no “cap” in baseball.
Maybe he means they’ve cleared out space for a new alternate road cap?
Has Beltran resigned yet? It’ll be yet another dysfunctional summer in Queens…
He’s gonna count every year till the deal is gone. They’re still paying him. League didn’t rip contract up or something
Which is what should actually happen. Instead, money keeps flowing in after the suspension and there really isn’t any repercussion.
Well he did lose his salary during the suspension, but yeah it doesn’t affect post suspension
In most cases, teams have at least tried to re-welcome the player back so ripping up contract is kinda extreme..
stan lee the manly
Man, imagine if the Astros now pick this guy up. Their nightmare would never end.
Hell go to the Rays, have a 4 WAR and win a gold glove.
that’s what the Rays do.
He came pretty close to that already
Crazy move! Never would have predicted this. He can be such a dynamic player….
I know the Braves won’t nor should we nor do we have room for him, but I kinda like the idea of somehow being able to swipe him up for league min. Sure that wouldn’t happen either lol.
Buddy, did you read the article
In my defense on the “read the article” it said “more to come…” when I first opened it. I forgot about the suspension…
No, Odubel is good to go. Roster him and play him. Suspension is done.
can, just like i can win the lottery. Herrera really needs to put in more effort, because when he’s on he looks like a MVP. he’s just on so infrequently recently.
He’s not a free agent yet.They could still end up putting him through waivers,and then assigning him to Lehigh when he clears.
I don’t know what he did, but it must have been egregious. Otherwise I’d want his talent on the Reds.
Brown Trout Fisherman
Hi slapped a lady.
And that’s a horrible thing, but he didn’t stab or shoot her. Big difference. Worth having perspective.
I hope Martini can stick with someone as he has bounced around a lot this offseason. His limitations are obvious but that last 90 days with the A’s in 2018 he was a key as always on base and getting timely hits. He can’t play center so not a clean swap for Hererra. When the A’s signed Grossman I was puzzled as he seemed a more costly version of Martini.
I prefer Martini and his .397 OBP over Grossman’s terrible .334 OBP.
Beane has made some absolutely atrocious moves over the last 5 years, like signing Kendrys Morales when you have Profar, Canha and Pinder to play 1B. Ditching Martini for Grossman is another one of them.
Every time Beane brings on a washed up veteran to block a talented minor leaguer who has done nothing but produce his whole career but got no shot, A’s fans should riot.
Pointless post. Signing Morales was to try and get a left handed at. Pinder can’t hit righties and at time of Olson’s injury Canha was thought of the same and a platoon option. Profar was never going to first as the A’s intended him to play only second. Morales signing didn’t work out but cost was almost zero.
Someone will sign him to at least a minor league contract. Let him mature a bit in the minors until he gets another shot at The Show.
Time in the minors isn’t going to fix this type of immaturity. That’s what counseling is for
Brown Trout Fisherman
Should have kept him, he did his punishment. PC world strikes again. If he were better he’d be around.
I don’t know. There’s more to running an organization than winning. Herrera is just bad PR all around.
if not for the cap hit he couldve already been gone. he cant play anymore and has a poor work ethic.
Real punishment,being paid ! $19 million for
beating up a woman.
This has nothing to do with PC world,men choking women has always been bad pr.
Wasn’t it a slap (not choking)? Slapping is horrible too but there’s a big difference.
Idk,but I thought I remembered reading the girl had marks on her neck that indicated he choked her.
Whatever, punch or slap, it was Herrera’s loudest hit of the season.
You, son, are a creep.
The only one doing the striking is Odubel. Great job Philly
“PC world” didn’t make him absolutely terrible since 2017.
This move is a year too late.
PC? Hahahahha what a joke
He sucked on the field and has shown zero remorse. Clearly no team felt he was worth the contract alone, or they wouldn’t DFA him
At first I thought it was Asdubal Cabrera
When the Mets traded Asdrubal to the Phillies, I imagined their introductions to each other:
“Asdrubal Cabrera, Odubel Herrera.
“Odubel Herrera, Asdrubal Cabrera.”
If the Nats give Odubel a shot, it’ll happen again.
That joke didn’t work for David Letterman when he hosted the Oscars decades ago, why would it work now?
Because it actually happened
I’d like to hear Chris Russo introduce those two.
Herrera was a problem even before the domestic abuse incident. Too bad because of the CBA that this jackass still gets paid $19 million. I wonder if the owner’s can buy ‘Jackass’ insurance ?
He wasnt really an issue
He didn’t hustle,made bonehead plays and had zero learning curve. He was already on a downward spiral.
Mets need a centerfielder… think they grab him?
I think they stick with Nimmo-Marisnick platoon. I could see them offering him a minor league deal with an NRI like they did last year with Rajai Davis. Then again, they could just offer one to Rajai Davis…
He got his money and became incredibly LAZY. Good bye bum.
Good for the Phillies.
Showing the Cubs, Astros and Yankees what they should have done.
The answer to domestic violence (not involving a weapon or serious beating) is not driving someone from society. Slapping a woman is a horrible thing (shooting an empty garage is a stupid, reckless thing), but it’s not the same as beating a woman senseless or stabbing or shooting them. They should be handled differently. The vast majority of DV offenders once identified and treated go on to live the rest of their lives without repeat offenses. It’s America. People are supposed to be able to pay their dues and resume their lives without prejudice. It’s a good thing to rehabilitate people and re-assimilate them into productive roles in society. It’s stupid to isolate someone forever for such an offense. That’s grossly over-reacting and it’s socially counter-productive. I say all of this as someone who is the son of a battered woman and who works pro bono at a domestic violence shelter (i.e., I work with the victims; so I don’t under-estimate the offense; I give it perspective).
Stopped reading after your first sentence essentially reads “The answer to domestic violence isn’t jail”.
Violence is violence and its incredibly easy to not be violent towards your domestic partner. Only cowards and the weak minded, like Herrera here, would disagree.
You don’t go to jail for simple assault of punching or slapping someone if you have no prior convictions. You get 12-18 months of probation and community service. This is a good thing because then most people never commit another crime. You go to jail, however, and recidivism rate goes way up. A criminal is born. You’re being weak minded not to think of the social factors.
“Violence is violence and its incredibly easy to not be violent”
Weren’t you the one saying Astros players should be punched in the face forever and ever?
No, violence is not violence. Not all violence is the same. Slapping someone is not the same as killing them. Listen to yourself.
Sorry, but you are not qualified to speak intelligently on this topic.
Curious, would that same principle apply to Felipe Vazquez?
No. As I’m sure you know, the circumstances are grossly different. Felipe Vazquez’s case involves sexual assault and 20 other charges… My remark was aimed at a very specific set of limited charges, as I stipulated. You seem a bit disingenuous to be comparing the two.
The circumstances are very different. Felipe Vazquez’s case involves sexual assault and 20 other charges… My remark was aimed at a very specific set of limited charges.
Vazquez’s case involved sexual assault and 20 other charges.
So, hitting women and shooting guns at them in garages isn’t as bad as what Vazquez did?
Chapman’s partner wasn’t in the garage. The garage was empty. Depends on whether we are talking about a slap or a beating. They’re different. Just like a slap is different from a stabbing. Get it? Vazquez went much farther. Sexual assault AND 20 other charges.
If you punch someone in a bar you’ll be treated far differently than if you pummel and bloody them with a pool cue. Get it?
So, you think it’s OK to hit other people if you don’t hit them too much or if you do it in the right circumstances?
I see no reason to tolerate people who think that is ever acceptable behavior. At all.
So you think slapping someone and killing them is the same and offenders of both sort should be driven from society forever. Got it. And we should tolerate this? Ever? I don’t think you know what “fair enough” means.
I’m not saying that either hitting someone or hitting them too much is okay. I’m saying they don’t and shouldn’t be treated the as the same offenses. Thank god.
“So, you think it’s OK to hit other people if you don’t hit them too much”
Never said that it was okay. Not even close. I said it should be (and is) treated differently from more serious violent crimes. The justice system treats them differently. More people in society should understand and recognize the differences. Treating someone who punches someone in a bar like a murderer is just stupid on every level. Ditto for a guy who slaps a woman. It’s a horrible thing but you can’t honestly treat him like a murderer. For several reasons. It’s not right. And it’s not socially effective. That’s different from saying it’s okay. Way different.
Lmao way to go to the extreme to prove your ridiculous point
No one said everyone should be exiled no matter what period go away. You’re just pretending they are
They are saying Herrera hasn’t done anything to show he’s worth keeping around. He’s been a pumpkin since he signed his deal. But continue waving your arms about murder to feel smart
No, we should treat murderers like murderers….they should never see the light of day again…but instead they get 20 years and we let them back out.
People who physically harm others (yes, even those harmless bar fighters and misunderstood abusers) should get the 20 years we give to murderers, not slaps on the wrist.
And there should not be a single person in prison for NON-VIOLENT crime while violent offenders are given free passes and excuses.
We do it completely wrong. Completely wrong.
@forwhomthrjoshbell tolls –
Your statement is ridiculous:
“ People who physically harm others (yes, even those harmless bar fighters and misunderstood abusers) should get the 20 years we give to murderers, not slaps on the wrist.”
Your telling me that as a kid or a young adult you never got into a confrontation with another where a punch was thrown? And if so, you think that person should get 20 years in jail? Come on man, that is just a ludicrous statement! I don’t condone violence whatsoever but fights happen all the time (even amongst good friends). Nearly 70% of all males in this country would be in jail for 20 years if you made the laws…
Mo4ever made some extremely valid points and the fact that he works with victims first hand as a volunteer leads me to believe he knows what he is talking about.
How do you feel about pitchers intentionally hitting batters? That can be much more dangerous and painful than receiving a punch in a bar fight. Should these pitchers get the death penalty?
Also, the Statement that no one who commits “non-violent” crimes should be in jail is beyond ridiculous! So Bernie Madoff should be out walking the streets while Joe Somebody should be in prison for 20 years for punching a guy in a bar fight? Dude…
Dude you’re full of crap. We’ve seen plenty of DV people, in MLB, move on like nothing happened
This stems from Herrera getting paid and then turning into an egg, prolly wasn’t very motivated in 19 given the teams frustration… no one wanted him on this deal, period
It’s not PC and it’s not an assault on people who beat their wives (nice hill to die on, btw)… it’s Herrera
Not sure who you’re talking to but I agree “We’ve seen plenty of DV people, in MLB, move on like nothing happened.” The fact is, the combination of a suspension, possibly criminal probation, and treatment (counseling/therapy/anger management training) is likely to lead to no repeat offenses ever. Best result possible. Look, as you say, at the MLB DV offenders so far… no repeats…
Well Addison Russell was a pattern of sustained abuse against his wife. Cubs loved him for 2 years. Kinda blows your theory out the of the water…
Well said, Mo4ever. Thank you for your volunteer work too; I’m sure you are making a positive difference in people’s lives.
10 days and some team will take a flying on him and have the Phillies pay
Probably b a pickup by the Marlins & seek payback on Phils for dumping him, by the way what happened 2 Phils, started off good then in the can
This guy Nick isn’t gonna stick. Precursor to something bigger possibly?
Wow! They owe him a lot of money too!
braves fan since 1968
lot of money to you but not the average ball player
He definitely has talent but he makes alot of stupid plays and he’s a public relations nightmare. I can’t imagine anyone wanting that PR issue. I heard several times his number was 7.5 this year and 10 next year, not sure where the extra 2 Mil comes in. I bet he ends up overseas
Phils flip choker, for Martini, shaken, not stirred.
Jays need a centerfielder. Can’t be much worse that the Jays have already.
Swap him for Rusney Castillo
I know McCutchen will be rehabbing for his torn ACL but if he comes back healthy and hitting and the Phils have a healthy and hitting Bruce, do you play McCutchen in CF?
End of an error.
Herrera will be signing with the Astros any day now.
I’m a Phillies fan and will say Herrera is an unfocused player but I do think he could still be a very good player. He went backwards the past two years but so did a lot of players under Kapler. That said does another team want to take on a wife-beater?
I know there are obviously some issues legally and such with Herrera BUT assuming he’s faced his punishment and taken actions to redeem/correct his past behavior — he’s someone I’d be interested in the Red Sox trying to sign — especially assuming that one of either Bradley or Betts (probably Bradley at this point) is going to be dealt I think that Herrera could be a really cheap and potentially valuable replacement/4th OF worst case scenario. He had a rough 2019 but prior to that he displayed both some pop and speed along with a decent ability to get on base. if he can return to somewhere between his 2017/2018 stats he could be a very valuable and more importantly CHEAP option for the Sox who has the potential to be a very solid contributor to their lineup (should Bradley be traded)
I acknowledge it’s possible he may not actually be able to return to his 18/19 form BUT there really aren’t any other players out there who can be had for the league minimum (all else will be paid by PHI) with the potential to be as impact as Odubel could be.
Oh my bad I made that comment without realizing that he can be sent to AAA once he clears waivers or else he would forfeit his remaining $ — so he obviously will accept the assignment to AAA — so unless the Phillies would be willing to cover essentially all of his $ in a trade with Boston my prior premise obviously doesnt hold as much water. Though having said that if the Phil’s are truly DONE with him… maybe they would be willing to eat almost all of the $ owed to him… in that scenario I’d still like to see the Sox take a flier on him!
Maybe the Padres take Herrera in a bad contract swap for Myers and they throw in a prospect or two to make it worth it to the Phillies? Then SD can just cut Herrera like they did when they traded Matt Kemp for Olivera, but they’d clear Myers off the books.
Prospect(s) going back to philly would have to be substantial though because Myers is owed like 3x what Herrera is.
Now the Astros can sign him!
Garbage for garbage. Klentak should be dfa’d
I just read an article that said the Phillies are
likely to leave him in the minors. Then if someone claims him they pay the whole amount or if he refuses he forfeits his contract. Let him linger a while.
I think him and Texas could both have interest in a reunion. He’d have an opportunity to get some playing time
with Martini batting fourth the Phils are a lock for the World Series ( insert laugh track here )
The Phillies can trade for Marte to solve all their CF needs.
Spencer Howard, Quinn and a lower prospect for Marte.
Replace Spencer Howard with someone else and I’m on board with that. Adonis Medina maybe.
If he was a better player, he’d still be here.
If I were the Rockies, I would try to trade Ian Desmond for him. Herrera deserves a second chance. What he did was bad, but he didn’t kill anyone. He could be useful in the vast Coors OF as a defensive sub. And his speed could provide a lot of doubles and triples.
Desmond could give the Phillies at the very least a somewhat useful body at the MLB level rather than wasting the money on a AAA player. If not Desmond, then maybe they would take Wade Davis or Bryan Shaw. Heck, I’d be happy if Philly took all 3 for Herrera.
Spare your eyes folks. This conversation has devolved into low-brow stupidity.
One would think that some of that salary would be forfeited due to contractual language. If the Phillies don’t have clauses to protect themselves, then that’s on them.
Welcome to the Collective Bargaining Agreement which wouldn’t allow that.
Insert dumpster diving Theo locking up the next minor league contract , putting Herrera as Cubs new starting CF on Phillies tab
shouldve just released him. better get that money off the books.
The money stays on the books if he is released minus a minimum salary if he signs elsewhere.
The only way the money comes off with his amount of accrued service time is if he is traded or if he rejects his outright assignment and becomes a free agent. Neither of those is likely, so he is likely going to become the next Rusney Castillo, Jose Tabata, Ricky Romero, Jon Singleton, or Yasmany Tomas, the AAA player making a lot more than his teammates.
Just another reason why those early extensions are a bad idea.
I guess he can treat his teammates to extra food!
i mean how its paid out. better pay it all now and get it off the books after this year then still have to pay him next year.
Overheard in Bedford Falls:
Mr. Martini, how about some wine?
You know, that’s another reason for me not to like you. That rum-head spent twenty years in jail for poisoning a kid. If you know him, you must be a jailbird yourself.
The real solution to Chris Davis’s situation
I think he might need to spend a full year in purgatory (AAA) before another team takes a chance on him. These businesses (MLB franchises) don’t like to bring negative attention to themselves that could hurt their image (a.k.a. Revenue). No need to look any further than Houston, Boston & the Mets as proof of that! But if he can spend a full year in AAA, get counseling, play hard and be an exemplary citizen, then teams can use his turnaround as an example of giving a one time offender a second chance at his career. He really needs to commit to being a better ball player and better person for this to happen; I think he has it in him.
I agree with all of that.
He has it in him, but I still think it’s a bit ridiculous for him to be paid about $20M after this. I think that in certain cases, the team ought to be able to cancel all, or at least a significant portion of, a player’s contract if they’re found guilty of something serious like this. Let him spend his year in AAA and earn his way back – I’m all on board with that – but I don’t think he should keep his current deal.
It sounds like a match with the Mets. Lots of drama and a lower salary.
Could you see Cleveland making a move for him and putting him in left or right?
how was his criminal charges not enough to get us out of this filthy animals contract…no more it’s national and American leagues not Venezuelan criminals league they don’t even learn English but they take American money
Dolla dolla bills yo.
What a Jackass how about all these americans committing crimes is that alright? People make mistakes just cuz hes an athlete doesnt mean he’s perfect. I don’t condone domestic violence but I’m hoping he gets the help he needs moves forward and is given a second chance. This is from a mets fan.
Much as I’d like there to be standard clauses in contracts that allow teams to cut ties with players found guilty of serious charges (assault, spousal abuse, certain drug charges, certain weapons violations, rape, etc.) without owing them a thing, I don’t think the players union would agree to that.
Sounds like another reds minor league contract with invite to majors.