In today’s video, Jeff Todd and I discuss how the Mookie Betts trade is affected by the coronavirus, and whether there might be a silver lining for the Dodgers.
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In today’s video, Jeff Todd and I discuss how the Mookie Betts trade is affected by the coronavirus, and whether there might be a silver lining for the Dodgers.
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dynamite drop in monty
He’s gonna go bowling a drink a milkshake.
Web
dynamite drop in monty
What brings you to this nape of the woods, neck of the wape; How come you’re here?
looiebelongsinthehall
In Georgia on Friday.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
What happens to Mookie is what happens to all major leaguers—he sits until it is safe to play, with or without fans in the stands. He’s losing wages but hey, join the nationwide club. The Dodgers losing his on-field presence is karma. Chavez Ravine residents lost their homes to the thieving Dodgers and city administrators. It’s fitting that the thieving Dodgers who took away the last six years of local game broadcasting to two-thirds of L.A.s TV audience now lose their one year of Mookie control—karma.
BUGZ
Hahahahaha man what did the dodgers do to you? Being a Padres fan is tough huh? Getting worked every season when you think you finally have the team to win, hurts doesn’t it? Sorry that they been your daddy for so long
Smelly_Cobb
Actually, that’s all true. Karma is a b
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Hey BUGZ: “What did the dodgers do to you?”, you say. Nothing compared to what postseason opponents do to your Dodgers—especially in the World Series (in full view of the world). Being a choker Dodger fan is tough, huh? Getting worked up every season when you think you finally have the team to win (the WS) hurts doesn’t it? Not sorry the World Champs have been your daddies for so long. Now– assume the position.
Iknowmorebaseball
Lose yes! But add to the list Verdugo and Downs. They lose many years of their servies and while paying their salaries with peanuts. They got taken BIG TIME! Let’s face it, they got into this predictement because they got greedy and in heat to get Mookie. Very stupid trade, just hold on to Verdugo and Downs stupids, be patient, sign Mookie in 8 months as a free agent is all they had to do. This moronic move has embarrassed Dodgers fans and the organization. Hahaha
dlevin11
Yes Mookie can join the PBA Tour for all I care.
citizen
Would one team pay Betts 30-40mil after a year out of mlb? It I doubt.
mack22 2
If I were Mookie I’d see if I’d like LA, if not pick another place. Personally I’d pick the Dodgers first, but that’s just me
bjupton100
I’d pick the one that paid me the most.
Iknowmorebaseball
bjupton that means the Dodgers are definitely not the one!
Geno55
I think whoever offers Mookie Betts the most money
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
He’s a future Yankee
VegasSDfan
I would pick a team that has a real stadium, that isn’t a dump
VinScullysSon
If you’re implying that Dodger Stadium is a dump then you’re in the minority. Many people consider it one of the most beautiful stadiums. And it’s only getting better as they’ve done additional upgrades this year.
ghostrobot
Dodgers stadium is a dump, it’s the second best MLB stadium in the city and the third best in the state.
DakotaJoe
I’m an east coast guy who visits different parks every year. Last year I went to Dodger stadium and Seattle. Dodger stadium has a lot of history but it’s definitely not fan friendly if you’re not connected to the team. I’ve been to about half the ballparks and I think the Pirates have the best stadium. Of course, Fenway has the most history.
BlueSkyLA
Dodger Stadium has its problems, but then it is the third oldest park in baseball. Recent upgrades have helped. More were made this year, but we might not get to see them. How do you mean not fan friendly if you aren’t connected to the team? I am genuinely curious. Is it because it’s filled with hometown fans?
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Hey BlueSkyLA: You can’t put lipstick and rouge on a 70 year old broad (condemned Chavez) and consider her now upgraded into a hottie. Try sitting on that old hag and you’ll crush her legs. You’ve got $8.35B for allowing TV cameras into the dump over 25 years—spend some of that on an over-due demo, you cheapskates.
Iknowmorebaseball
And so many gang members wearing Dodger gear at the stadium doesn’t help
Matt Kimball
It is the only baseball stadium in the city. It is also one of the premiere stadiums in baseball. Petco is nice and it’s also a home park for the Dodgers. The phone booth in SF is meh. Fans make the stadium avg. at best.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Hey VegasSDfan: That takes Chavez latrine is out of the running.
DarkSide830
i feel like its most likely not going to happen, but the lack of tax reset plus the rental nature of Betts could offer something of a chance of reversal. MIN’s presence complicates things though.
4WSsince04
Minnesota was a separate trade.
No way it is reversed or all the Other team that made a trade have the same complaint!!!!!!!
luckyh
Absolutely no way, it has already been negotiated how things play out with the uncertain season.
hexum311
He’s a nice guy. Dodgers are a good organization. If there was no season, guaranteed the two sides come together on a deal.
dynamite drop in monty
Uhh no.
fox471 Dave
What?
dynamite drop in monty
I said uhhh no. As in uhh no there’s most assuredly no guarantees regarding what Betts does.
fox471 Dave
Then, my dear boy, try to be more precise in the future. Uuhh no, is meaningless.
JoeBrady
no guarantees regarding what Betts does.
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Not for nothing, but isn’t that true for approximately 100% of all future decisions?
vtadave
Yep all those $300MM+ contracts the Dodgers normally give out…
yogineely
Yes, out of the 4 $300m+ contracts given to free agents, the dodgers haven’t landed them but they’ve made offers for 3 of them. Not sure why they wouldn’t offer this to mookie considering they already gave something up to get him for this season.
BlueSkyLA
Because this year prospects were the price. Next year $400M could be the price. See the difference?
yogineely
No
BlueSkyLA
You don’t understand the difference between prospects and dollars? Hard to know where to start with that one.
yogineely
I understand the difference, but your first and second responses dont answer my question of what makes anyone think they wouldn’t offer an extension or try to resign
BlueSkies_LA
Because this front office has never guaranteed anyone as much as $100m. Betts would cost them four times as much. That’s why.
yogineely
But they’ve they’ve offered it, they’ve been in on all of the major contracts so far besides machado, to say their cheap when they offered Bryce, Cole, and Rendon Major money is selling them short considering that’s 3/4 of the $300+ contracts given to a fa. If they went after those guys with zero ties to the dodgers and struck out, I’d think this is part of the train they made the trade.
Deleted Userrr
@yogineely the Dodgers didn’t have to trade for Mookie first to be able to sign him later. Nor does the fact that they already gave up those assets for his last year of control mean there is added pressure to keep him.
yogineely
I totally get that, I know there’s no bird rights in mlb, however friedmans comments praise mookie, says he hopes he falls in love with la, talk about how long he’s liked him, and he hopes to extend or resign. Those being friedmans comments and the only evidence against it being friedmans history of being “cheap” I don’t think it’s a complete loss to get him in the club house to try and sway him to stay. Getting 8 months to negotiate something is definitely a plus, even if he wants to test the waters just due to the time the dodgers and mookies people get to negotiate and talk
Basebal101
No Yogi they have not. You really need to stay away from the media and the hogwash you read. Most all of those you mentioned were smoke screens. That’s not how the Dodgers FO does things.
BlueSkyLA
I’m not the one saying “they’re cheap.” I’ll leave the bumper sticker arguments to others. Quite a few of the offers they’ve made for big ticket free agents show their preference for shorter term deals, sometimes at higher AAV, than what the player will get from another team. I don’t know what purpose is served by making offers that are almost certain to be rejected, but that’s what they’ve been doing. Betts could be the most expensive free agent contract in the history of the game. Making second-best offers doesn’t sign players. What in the history of the Dodgers suggests that they would be the ones to make him his best offer?
yogineely
Yeah totally understand that, and wasn’t really accusing you of being the one that was saying their cheap, was more directed at most the other comments, not just on this specific thread either. Nothing in their history except that friedman has gone on record hyping mookie up. Friedman doesn’t seem like the guy to get excited much, unless it’s being the third team in a trade. Also, trading for mookie in general is not like prior friedman moves where he’s made most his big splashes at the deadline and his pre season trades have largely been to shed players on their last season, not acquire them. I don’t see mookie as every other free agent prior in this situation for the dodgers.
Also, I love baseball101 telling me to stay away from the media on one of the few media sites I read, which he obviously does too. Even reads the comments haha
yogineely
Either way, agree or not, I love having a discussion about a sport I miss a lot right now. Thanks everyone for being chill
BlueSkyLA
I haven’t heard Friedman say much about Betts, nothing special or out of the ordinary anyway. The best way I can see to judge how he feels about the talent is how much he was willing to give up for a year of him. No matter how he feels about the player, the way I see it the value calculation changes totally when he become a free agent. Now we’re talking about making him a Dodger for life at an immense cost and in a very uncertain economic environment. Anything less than 10 years and around $350M and he goes elsewhere for sure unless the free agency market takes a huge downturn (which is possible).
Deleted Userrr
No, trading for Mookie does not have the future in mind. There is no evidence that trading for players makes it easier to sign them or vice versa. Especially considering Mookie is sitting at home like everyone else rather than actively playing for the Dodgers in 2020. If they just offer him the most $ in free agency it will make the trade look worse. Not better.
Iknowmorebaseball
Lol, good one. Fans forget that the Dodgers are freaking cheap
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Dodgers are getting their $300M every year for 25 years from TimeWarner for broadcasting rights. So yeah, they don’t have a problem with $300M contracts as long as they’re on the receiving end.
Matt Kimball
It is the only baseball stadium in the city. It is also one of the premiere stadiums in baseball. Petco is nice and it’s also a home park for the Dodgers. The phone booth in SF is meh. Fans make the stadium avg. at best.
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Powerball numbers please
angelsfan4life
This Dodgers ownership has yet to offer anyone more than a 4 year deal. Other than Kershaw. They have not shown any kind of interest in long term deals. They offered Bryce Harper a 4 year deal for 160 million. Machado they offered a three year deal. They didn’t even offer Cole more than a 4 year deal. Rendon told the Dodgers outright that he wasn’t interested in signing with them.
BlueSkyLA
Just for the record, the Dodgers didn’t offer Machado anything. The Dodgers didn’t want him back and probably few fans would have either.
Iknowmorebaseball
I believe you! I believe you!
Rangers29
The silver lining is that even if there isn’t a season, the dodgers will still be getting screwed for the 4th year in a row!
17: Losing WS to the banger of the trashcans
18: Losing the WS to the Heir of the bangers of the trashcans
19: Losing to a magical Nationals team
20: Donating Verdugo and Downs to the Red Sox
azelch99
Dont forget taking on half of David Price’s contract.
Afk711
One of the worst common opinions in the baseball community is about David Price. Half of David Price’s contract is a very good contract for the Dodgers. 16 million is nothing for a solid pitcher. Homer Bailey just got 7 million…. Pitching is expensive and David Price on the same contract they gave Rich Hill is not bad.
looiebelongsinthehall
Especially pitching in Dodgers Stadium. Hated Price in Boston off the field but I’d still take him at that value point.
hOsEbEeLiOn
What dodger fans don’t realize is Price’s fast ball velocity has dropped 2 years straight.
2017 94.1
2018 93.1
2019 92.4
Same with his sinker curve and change up. All 3 pitches have seen their velocity drop.
That doesn’t bode well going forward for them.
fox471 Dave
Agreed!
Iknowmorebaseball
Solid?
This year would have been a better chance for him to get Bellow a 400 era but he will be another year older and he has declined every year. Today no team would sign him for 2021-22 for 20 million, 10 mil/yr
Afk711
He declined every year even though he was significantly better in 2017-18 than 2016?? Price has had a very good strikeout/walk rates in the past 2 years and in 2018 he was excellent. The idea Price stinks is just wrong and will be proven wrong whenever games start. As a free agent he would easily get 2 years 20 million at least.
fox471 Dave
Not agreeing with whatever his name is about Price.
Psychguy
Sounds like a frustrated Rangers fan taking it out on a successful organization.
Rangers29
A successful organization wouldn’t have chocked in the playoffs the past 3 years.
BTW I’m not frustrated with the Rangers right now, since I know we are rebuilding, but the Dodgers do remind me of the early 2010’s when the Rangers chocked the exact same way. 2 WS in a row.
Afk711
How is it choking if you said 2 teams they lost to cheated and the Nats were a team of destiny who flat out refused to die like a steroid infused roach. The Dodgers scored 12 runs in a WS game and lost. The Astros are frauds who robbed them of a title. Kershaw getting zero swings and misses on his curveball in game 5 says it all about how much the Astros were cheating the game.
wiggysf
I’m a Giants fan, and it hurts me to admit that the Dodgers are a successful organization, but they really are. They’ve won the NL West like seven years in a row or something, and they consistently are competitive and draw loads of fans to the ballpark, while maintaining a good farm system the whole time. No, they haven’t won a World Series, and I doubt the dodgers are satisfied with what they’ve accomplished, but to say they aren’t successful is an oversight.
However, I also love that all four of the things you pointed out happened.
yogineely
Ummmm, we’ve choked in playoffs for 7 years in a row. They also have no signs of slowing down.
looiebelongsinthehall
Let’s wait to see the Sox investigation report.
Psychguy
Winning multiple consecutive NL titles does not strike me as a failure. Would be interesting to see if others agree/disagree. Especially, when you factor in the cheating Astros. So, how many years now have the Rangers been rebuilding?
Rangers29
Trying to “diss” the Rangers isn’t what i’m talking about, but despite that i’ll still answer. 3 years. Anyways, what i’m saying is that for the dodgers it has been WS or bust for the past few seasons, and all have resulted in bust. No way to sugarcoat it.
Psychguy
Yeah cheating does not factor into it. I get it. I’m not dissing the Rangers just stating a fact. Rangers last play off appearance was what 2016?
youngTank15
Nationals beat the dodgers fair and square.
Rangers29
Yep, 2016. Ooh you got me, I hate myself and the Rangers now that you have shown me these obvious facts that I was just too oblivious to know. I never want to be a Rangers fan again, and will forever be called Dodgers29.
Psychguy
It’s good you came to your senses. Because your prior posts made no sense at all. You may want to talk to your parents about the importance of developing critical thinking skills.
Rangers29
Ok, I’ll try better at that. You, Unfit, have made me rethink all of my life choices. Dodgers4life!
fox471 Dave
No one above said anything different. Relax!
Iknowmorebaseball
Wiggy, you got 7 years in a row going to the playoffs and not once you won the world series. I would say… not agreed on great organization because a great one would have won it at least once. They don’t go out and get the missing link or just ain’t good enough to figure out how to get it.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Hey Afk711: Dodgers are very comfortable gagging on just about anything—so, don’t feel bad for them.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Afk711: The Dodgers problem is that they face “MEN” in the WS, not the girls they routinely beat-up for six months prior to October. Be men, Dodgers—take your public spankings without making excuses. Ask your fans to do the same. Win or zip it. Cowboy up.
Javia
It is always a crapshoot in the playoffs. Many years the World Series champion is not the best team in the country. Besides, the Dodgers did win the World Series. In 2017. If Houston cheated they didn’t win it. We know they cheated. Therefore, the Dodgers won it. And I am a Padre fan!
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Hey wiggysf: The mighty Gigantes are way more successful than the Dodgers—3 WS champions in 2010, 2012 and 2014!!! 8 all-time World Champions. The only reason you’re not still winning it all now is cause you guys were physically exhausted after all the back to back to back humping you gave the Dodgers. You just woke up from the ordeal.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Hey Javia: The event you’re talking about is the crap shooting out of the Dodgers home dugout (see L.A. Times front page story, including pictures)!
Afk711
LOL the crazy Padres fan who can’t do math is back. I love how your entire talking points would have been nothing if Yu Darvish wasn’t terrible on an early November night. Gies to show your obsession with small sample sizes is comical. A team was literally caught cheating but hey im sure Astros fans love your attitude. Stick to hyping every Padres prospect up to be a Hall of Famer like the rest of your fanbase.
jekporkins
Winning the West seven years in a row is a rather dubious honor. For a team like the Padres is might be great, but for an organization like the Dodgers, who have won a lot of championships but haven’t in decades, it is almost embarrassing. Always the bridesmaid never the bride sort of thing. The ‘choke’ nickname must be grating at this point.
VinScullysSon
As a lifelong Dodger fan I find it humorous how Dodger haters want to define my team solely on if they win a ring each year while their team doesn’t even smell the playoffs. I have enjoyed an amazing seven year run of great games to go to all season long into October. I got to go to three World Series games (2 vs Houston and 1 vs Red Sox). Basically I got 99% of what a fan could ask for when most fans are lucky to get 75%. I’m a happy fan and while I look forward to the eventual ring I don’t discount all the success we’ve had in the meantime. I’d rather have seven years of winning but coming up just short then six losing seasons and one ring. Maybe it’s just me.
Basebal101
Don’t forget winning 8 division titles in a row too. Yup it must really suck to be a fan of such a horrible team.
World series or bust? There is an appropriate term for people like you. IGNORANT. Which by most definitions means, having or stating opinions to which you know nothing about. You clearly dislike the Dodgers, which is allowed, but nothing you have stated is close to factual about them and you keep making yourself look stupider each post.
Afk711
Its funny because the Giants literally took our GM to make their team more like the Dodgers. So I guess your own franchise wants embarrassing.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Are the Dodgers sure those are Dodger Dogs they eat?
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Boy, Doyers & their fans sure know how to put away those Dodger Dogs. Pretty cool postseason opponents don’t suffer the same fate.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Afk711—You have no shame. I just told you to take it like a man and cowboy up just a few spaces up. That means zip it up on both ends until you faint or blow up, just like the sewage pipes in the Dodgers home dugout (see L.A. Times sports story and images).
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Afk711: Have a 6th grade education but even I can count that it’s been 31 seasons since 1988 that American League teams have been taking your girlfriends, your lunch money and your manhood from you Bridegrooms (former Dodger name). Something like $31T spent and all you chokers have show for it are the chickens. How do you like ‘dem apples?!?
Manfredsajoke
Give it up all the teams cheat. Not even a Astros fan but I do like some of the players.
fox471 Dave
No they don’t all cheat. Dumb statement!
4WSsince04
How was 2019 “screwed”. The Dodgers lost. Lost. Lost
BlueSkyLA
And for many more in a row you will lose the Nice Guy award to someone who is already in prison.
4WSsince04
BlueSky can’t is through your own fog of hot air
BlueSkyLA
Bork! Bork! Bork!
Bleedsblue81
I think I would rather make the playoffs and “choke” than not make it at all. After all, 9 teams “choke” in the playoffs each year.
SportsFan0000
At least they didn’t lose to the Roided up /Cheating teams of a few years back..
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Rangers29: Karma for slipping it to two-thirds of the local L.A. TV audience via a blackout for the last six years. Seems to me the Dodgers need to get jacked for at least another decade of getting their heads handed to them before we can say they’re even.
MWeller77
Padres Guy, no one in LA could possibly care less about what you think. Keep your bizarre sexist rants to yourself.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Hey Doyer Fanatic, what Doyer fans think carries no weight in San Diego. Take a rib out and say, instant gratification. No images, please.
SEATown11
When is Manfred going to announce his ruling on the Red Sox?
dynamite drop in monty
Tomorrow
HubcapDiamondStarHalo
At 2:42pm Eastern Daylight Time.
Rangers29
1:42 Central Daylight Time.
looiebelongsinthehall
Seriously? Depending on the findings, Thursday evening with the NFL draft would be ideal if they’re trying to bury it.
dynamite drop in monty
No
jdgoat
There’s more teams going down than just the Astros and the Red Sox, that’s why this one hasn’t been released yet. I’ve heard from someone they’ve had to at least look into 8 other teams and that was before spring training started.
dynamite drop in monty
Was that someone your mailman?
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Manfred has determined the Red Sox are WS Champs and doyers (in their girlie dress whites) are not.
Royalrooter
Allegedly Mookie turned down 300 million for 10 years and came back with an ask of 420 million for 12 with the Sox. He’ll never see 420 now from anyone He’s going to be fortunate to get 30 per this offseason with more than 7 years. Sometimes players get greedy and it blows up in their faces. I like Mookie and I watched him from the time he was in the minors to his last year with us and one thing for sure his swing is tailor made for Fenway. However being a small guy and wanting 10 or more years I don’t believe his body will hold up. Sox May try to get back in with him but don’t think they’ll go more than 7 years and 180 million now.
looiebelongsinthehall
If he truly wanted out, the money Boston offered is irrelevant. That said, everyone loses in the times we’re in but in the bigger picture, who cares? I’m just fortunate to be working from home and my household is so far safe. I have lost a friend and professionally a client. This disease sucks. Regardless of politics or religion, everyone stay safe and kiss those you can.
4WSsince04
Looie – baseball is irrelevant to life, health, and livelihood. People take this web site too seriously….
I agree that the money offered to Betts was irrelevant as he wanted free agency. If some team signs him for more 7-8 years it will end up like so many bad contracts Ellsbury, A-rod, Sandoval, …. I could list 100s. Most players signed past 35 end up not being worth the money or you could say the money would be better spent elsewhere. I love watching Betts play and I wish him well wherever he ends up.
God bless to everyone and hope all are safe…that is the most important thing these days.
looiebelongsinthehall
Agreed.
Dom2
YES! They will by extending him
MikeEmbletonSmellsBad
Lol
Brixton
Win the 2020 makeshift World Series or extend him for less than Bryce Harper.
Extending him for less would justify the trade slightly, because if they extend him for a record setting deal, they coulda done that without trading for him first. That said, LAD didn’t want to give Harper a ton of years and bailed on Stanton for the contract length too.
So in a few words, win the WS in his lone year.
thebaseballfanatic
“Bailing on Stanton” sure seems like a pretty good move now.
Brixton
Oh, well yeah. Injuries happen though. Stanton is far from a lost cause as a player tho
bigdaddyt
kinda biased arent ya
myaccount
If you think Stanton is done, you’re crazy.
jekporkins
I actually do think he’s done. He might salvage a couple 30 home run seasons that won’t sniff what he did in his prime, but his body is breaking down on the big guy. Between that and the monumental pressure playing in NYC with that big ‘ol contract and you have a recipe for disaster.
Brixton
Not really considering I’m a Phillies fan and had this avatar for years, but I get the concern for Stanton. That said, yeah, hes still a star-level player when hes healthy.
Javia
I never thought that Stanton was all that valuable. I mean, he has a lifetime BA-.268. Ok, but nothing special. His OBP-.358 is pretty good, but nothing special. He is all about power, and he has hit over 30-HR in only half of his seasons. He has only hit over 40 once. That was 59 sure, but he only averages just under 31-HR per year. That is not really star type power.
Angels & NL West
Dodgers normal MO is fewer years, higher AAV. In these unusual times, I would guess the Dodgers would stick to that plan. Hard to imagine a Harper, Muchado, Trout-like offer from anyone forthcoming. Bad timing for Mookie. Good timing for club that acquires him.
GaryWarriorsRedSoxx
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Deleted Userrr
Well if they win the World Series in 2021 or 2022 and D. Price has a Bumgarner-esque postseason that year I think it will have been worth it for them.
But in reality. This one looks pretty bad for LA.
BlueSkyLA
The value in this deal was never going to be Price. In reality, any team that trades anything of any value for a player who never suits up for them with have gotten the fuzzy end of the lollypop.
SportsFan0000
Dodgers and other ballclubs who made deals in the offseason get short end of it.
If they can persuade Mookie to play at least on year in LA, then it could work.
Offer him 1 or 2 years 40M each…to rebuild his value after this lost season.
jd396
Mookie Betts isn’t losing value… everything else is
Deleted Userrr
They didn’t have to trade for him to do that.
Moneyballer
Sure, just lock him up long term. Pretty easy!
Deleted Userrr
TIL that the Dodgers can just wave a magic wand and lock up whoever they want.
brucenewton
Win the bidding war for Betts and they might win the trade. Seems highly probable he’ll be elsewhere next season. They’ll get the comp pick at least. And David Price.
Deleted Userrr
Winning the bidding war for Betts won’t make the trade look better. It will make it look worse. Because it will mean they overpaid for him twice. Once in prospects to acquire him and once again in cash to sign him.
JustCheckingIn
Except they didn’t overpay at all the first time
Show me one credible person that said it was an overpay when the trade was completed
Deleted Userrr
They offered a better return than anyone else did. Ergo, they overpaid.
JustCheckingIn
Haven’t read the comments, but one point missed On the video
If 2020 is canceled, Red Sox don’t reset the luxury tax. Therefore they’re probably Not bidding for Betts this offseason, worst case scenario With the canceled season
Assuming they make the playoffs in any type of short year, LA probably doesn’t mind having a half season. They got Mookie for October, not April.
Very good points on Price and others having a year off, or partial year as well. They aren’t great silver linings, but there are some there
Ashtem
Verdugo,Downs and Wong didn’t have a place in LA
Deleted Userrr
And could have been traded for someone that would have actually suited up for LA.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Red Eye: Yeah, right—that’s why L.A. acquired them and didn’t want to let them go. And you speak with forked tongue—they had rented places in Alhambra, Pasadena and Burbank. Last I saw, those are considered L.A.
Rob66
Wow Tim, you and Jeff are both so YOUNG! Tm, I pictured more of a Peter Gammons type look!
frankf
I’ve always felt that if a player misses more than half a season, his team should have the option of another season at the same salary.
And I think the same thing should go for a missed season for any reason- all contracts should be extended for another season, regardless of where the player is in terms of contract years.
VegasSDfan
Dodgers fans are the new Raiders fans.
It’s the Refs, it’s the Astros, cheaters. Regardless, the Dodgers won’t get credit for games they lost. So stop crying already.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Dodgers will be crying when the Padres sign Mookie for 5 years $75M starting 2021.
agentp
Actually, Mookie will be worth more on a per-game basis, WHEN they begin play soon
Less games determine who makes it to the final dance, therefore in a 100 game season each individual game is worth that much more. Great players help tilt that advantage but so will flashes in the pan and smaller sample sizes. Excited to see what this season brings!
When the Dodgers make the post-season, Mookie will pay dividends. Not a Dodgers fan but Mookie is a game changer.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
I disagree. In a shorter season, you’re right, flashes in the pan matter more, as do prolonged slumps. Over the course of a 162-game season, Mookie is more likely to stand out from the rest of the pack than he is over a 100-game or 81-game season. Remember Trevor Story’s scorching start? Or Jose Abreu’s? They’re solid players, but both played way above their heads in their first half season. That doesn’t make them nearly as good as Betts.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
agentp: Mookie is a game changer but the Dodgers can’t change. It’s in their blue blood—no infusion of red blood can overcome the toxic blue that expands until it completely blocks all internal airways in postseason pressure situations.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
agentp: “…Mookie will be worth more on a per-game basis…”, huh? I figure that number will be $27,000,000 per game when he plays the last game of the season in September.
hyraxwithaflamethrower
They win if there’s a season and they’re WS champs. If not, they lose because they could have just signed him next year and only forfeited a draft pick and not had to take on half of Price’s salary. Only other possibility for them to win is if they flip him at the deadline for whatever reason (injuries pile up and they’re far back of Arizona, but that’d be a *lot* of injuries) for a lottery ticket who hits like Tatis, Jr, but that seems highly unlikely.
CharleyHustle
1 year deal less than 20 million the worst year to be a free agent the man didn’t get paid has all the leverage
rmullig2
This could work out great for the Dodgers. There could be a significantly shortened season which would allow them to pay Betts a fraction of this year’s contract while still getting him for the postseason. Betts may also choose to do a one year pillow deal for next season due to the uncertain economic conditions which will chill the free agent market. The Dodgers would be the likeliest team to sign him since there would be a QO on him anyway.
The Red Sox still benefit from the players they got back but the only drawback here is that they are losing most of a cheap Verdugo season.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Am pretty sure the 4M annual attendance mark is toast. Never in the history of baseball has a MLB team gone out of favor so steeply. Here’s hoping whoever owes the team the $300M TV money goes out of business and stiffs them. Just like the Dodgers have been doing to 60+% of local TV fans for 6 years.
citizen
At worser case scenario, there is no mlb season, Betts is a FA and dodgers get a high draft pick after Betts rejects the QO. Likely, there will be a shortened season, this isn’t the nhl and dodgers still get the draft pick. Or the two come to an agreement after the season.
rmullig2
They don’t get a high draft pick. The pick comes after the 4th round.
Dodger_Dogs
I don’t think that Mookie is getting 300 Mill, or any other free agent for a while. They are talking about the virus being worst next flu season than it is already, which means that MLB may be revisiting live game issues next year as well. MLB is going to lose a substantial amount of money/ and teams. People are out of work and many will even after economy starts back up. This is going to hurt global merchandise sales, game attendance, etc and games without fans will be like watching women’s softball on ESPN 2. Un-luck of the draw for Dodgers in 2020, Un-Luck of the draw for Mookie in 2021.
Ketch
The Dodgers should at least be thankful they didn’t include Gavin Lux, Dustin May, Keibert Ruiz, or Tony Gonsolin. In short, they got ripped off by fate, but they could afford it.
padreshave32yrstobestdodger1stwswin
Ketch: “In short, they got ripped off by fate, but they could afford it.” No, Ketch, you said it wrong—the Red Sox gave the Dodgers “nothing” and got three players out of it who eventually will play for Boston. Dodgers got ripped in this deal AND got ripped to pieces in the WS by Boston. No fate, just American League men putting whipped cream on the sacrificial cupcakes from Malibu.
Logjammer D"Baggagecling
Probably not. He’s not re-signing with them. An mvp would only benefit him and possibly getting more of a bigger contract. This would suck as a cubs fan but I think he goes to st Louis and they either trade Fowler or move him to a corner spot. 296/8. That’s 37m aav. Being 27 with a shorter deal like 8 years there is a chance he can get a nelson cruz deal towards the end of his career.
Angry Disgruntled Sox Fan
He’s a future Yankee