Major League Baseball has issued suspensions in the wake of last night’s bench-clearing action between the Dodgers and Astros. Los Angeles righty Joe Kelly was suspended for eight games and manager Dave Roberts received a single-game ban.
Kelly will appeal his suspension, so it’s not going into effect right away. Roberts will go ahead and sit out this evening’s game. His counterpart, Astros skipper Dusty Baker, will be fined for what went down between the two clubs.
In Kelly’s case, the league made several factual determinations that drove the decision. Kelly was deemed to have thrown “in the area of the head” and also to have “taunted” in a manner that spurred the clearing of the benches. The statement also noted that he had previously been suspended for such an incident.
Ball slipped out of his hand. Should just be a fine in masked kangaroo kourt.
Slipped out of his hand twice in a 1 inning appearance and stepped in MIchael Brantley’s running lane? Nah, I don’t believe those were accidents. Good to see MLB enact some discipline.
Brantley should be suspended for spiking Kelly. Gurriel and Correa should be suspended for coming charging .
Imagine suspending Joe Kelly for misbehaving during one game but not suspending a single Astros player for conspiring across seasons to defraud the entire league, to steal awards and titles, and to undermine confidence in the results on the field. The absurdity and hypocrisy are so thick in the air that they can be sliced with a butter knife. The Astros players involved should be BANNED FROM BASEBALL, not defended by the commissioner against swear words and inside pitches.
This couldn’t have been said any better. There has to be a way for baseball to rid the sport of the worst commissioner of any sport. He is ruining baseball. To defend the cheaters that he gave a slap on the wrist. The severity of Kelly’s suspension in a shortened season is absurd. I can’t stand the Trashtros and I can’t stand the commissioner.
Yes!! Well said!
Agreed! It might be time to just give up on MLB and Manfred as they’ve given up on the game.
This text is so perfect
The Astros SHOULD NOT be banned from baseball. Do you know why? BECAUSE THAT’S BAD BUSINESS. It would lead to loss of profits. You can send a message without throwing behind them.
Beisbolista –
I wish I could give your comment a thousand thumbs-up!
Have you never heard of a plea bargain?
What a load of bull spit, not a single Astros player takes a suspension but this dude does for missing Astros hitters, throw at the Astros heads please mlb pitchers, they cheated us all including their own fans
The only way to get rid of the commissioner is if he isn’t doing the bidding of ownership because that’s who hires him. When the commissioner speaks ownership’s voice comes out of his mouth. Still think the problem is the commissioner?
Every major contender was cheating in 2017. It will eventually all come out.
Yes sir !!!!
How many trash can bangs is a pitch over your head.
It won’t because they weren’t. But hey, Astros fan, be true to your own self.
Some of us place integrity over profits, some of us place honor and reputation over profits. Some of us refuse to prostitute ourselves for a little money.
Well, Steve, since you told me to stay true to myself, you must kn0w what kind of person I truly am. Go ahead and enlighten me on what kind of person I am. After all, you know me better than I know myself.
Right on bro ! Enough favoring of Astros this sissy stuff. They need to bean every one and throw behind a few like Kelly did
beisbalista: Very, very well said.
I agree rob manfred has to go
Kelly shouldn’t have had his foot in front of the bag. I don’t know if Kelly put it there on purpose, but Brantley most likely stepped on Kelly’s foot on purpose. In replay you can see Brantley looking down well in advance of the bag, with enough time to avoid Kelly’s foot. From the back angel you can see Brantley shuffling his stride a little on the last step which looks like he did it to make sure he got Kelly’s foot. Then Brantley gave a nice stare down afterward
I guess we will never know.
I think we can all agree that Manfred is the worst. Why did he get rid of the DH this year? Why not suspend the Marlin’s players who went out and got the virus.
Things people from Texas aren’t known for are things like integrity and truth telling. They are however, really good at being stubborn as mules.
HEE-HAW! HEE-HAW! HEE-HAW!
This this and this!
You pitiful people
Imagine being pathetic…..oh wait
Trash
How about the yankmes. What a hypocrite.
That is crazy!
Spot on
I think this is the most upvotes I’ve ever seen on a comment here before.
Yeah, he put his foot there so he could be spiked. Did you ever play baseball? Spiked? Geez what a dumb comment most people would say. I guess we will never know.
Kelly should learn how to put his foot on a bag. And you should learn some baseball with a comment like that
You know what else is bad for business? Bad business ethics. the Astros literally ended some guys careers with the way they cheated. They knew what pitch was coming like 80% of the time and lit guys up so bad they lost their job and career. So what you’re saying is it’s ok for a whole team to cheat to such an extent that they put others out of a job and they should be able to keep theirs without even a slap on the wrist? Get real. Cheaters SHOULD be banned and they WON’T be because Manfred is a corrupt D@UCHE.
What I’m saying is be realistic. Banning a whole team leads to a guaranteed loss of profits and that’s why they weren’ banned. MLB doesn’t want to lose money and that’s exactly what would’ve happened. Bad business ethnics is not a guaranteed loss of profits like banning a whole team is.
They should revert the former Enron field back to it’s original name.
Yea “enact some discipline” lol. How about suspending the players from 2017. Let’s start with that discipline haha.
remember when Brantley was on the Astros in 2017? oh wait…he wasnt.
Remember when Joe Kelly was on the Dodgers in 2017, oh yeah he wasn’t.
Remember when he was on the 2017 Red Sox who also got cheated in their post season series against the Astros. The Dodgers weren’t the only ones who were effected by the cheaters.
Red Sox cheated in 2018 and Joe Kelly was on that team. People tend to forget that.
I don’t get the “Joe Kelly wasn’t even in the 2017 World Series!” argument. Players from around the league are furious with the Astros. This isn’t limited to the Dodgers.
Joe Kelly was on the Red Sox in 2017 that got caught cheating during the 2017 season.
Really? Discipline? How about giving our WS back
“How about giving our WS back”
Do you have any idea how childish that sounds during a pandemic? Get a clue
that’s not how it works
Yaketymac –
You do realize that not EVERYTHING has to be tied to the pandemic, right? It is OK for people to have feelings and opinions on other things. Now go back to your foxhole….we’ll let you know when its safe to come out
What does a pandemic have to do with it. Cheating is cheating. They stole something. Fans and players are going to make sure they never live it down. Especially if they are going to show no remorse.
Be fair now. Kelly has no idea where the ball is going. Remember he posted a video of him throwing at home, and breaking one of his own windows.
Damn.
It appears I now have two things in common with Joe Kelly.
He was planning this since then. That video was planted as a deep cover to support the argument that he has no idea where his pitches are going, hehe. ; )
“slipped out if his hand” at least 3 times. that doesnt include pickoff throws and his asinine remarks that best fit an elementary school kid.
So in trashtros fans mind,it’s okay to call someone a fu**er, but their poor sensitive players ears get hurt when someone calls their cheater a littl b**ch…
Hand perspiration is a problem that plagues many. An absolute slip
He walked 2 and went 3-2 to Correa
He missed multiple times with the fastball in the exact same height just over the plate. He clearly had no release point
Whiners whine
Astros started the talking and had 3 comments at least before Kelly said anything. Get over yourself
It’s impressive how many times now MLB has gotten events regarding the Astros wrong. They should be turning a blind eye for every game in 2020.
How do you feel about the cheating Yankees and Red Sox? Not sure why the Astros are getting all of the anger. Every major contending team was cheating in 2017. They all had full access to live feeds and were expected not to use it?
Astros systematically cheated in real time. A nerd in the video room told them what was coming. The Sox used video equipment to decode signs but didn’t relay them to the current batter. The Sox scheme required a player to be on second base to actually read the signs. The Yankees to my knowledge haven’t been caught cheating with use of technology since all teams were warned.
Lol. You believe everything you just wrote?
@gtb1 If this is true than answer me this: if the Yankees were stealing signs in real-time, then why would guys like Judge, Sanchez and Stanton strike out so much? How could they get so fooled by a breaking ball if they knew it was coming? Or maybe you’re just making things up based on your own bias.
Gtb1. It’s media portrayal like these guys always believe! It’s a sad life.
McCullers closed out the Yankees with 24 straight curveballs. 24 straight. Maybe even if you know what’s coming, good curveballs are hard to hit. Sluggers have always notoriously been high strike out guys. I can tell you are attempting to be serious. Why did the Yankees get fined by MLB in 2018? Why did they sue to block release of “the letter” that would cause “severe reputational injury”? They must have been late for choir practice. Get real. All the clubs had access to live feeds. All the contenders were using it in one form or another. When Beltran came to Houston from the Yankees he told the team they were way behind the Yankees. It was widespread. No one went to LA without changing all their signals. Baseball has very transient loyalty these days. It will all come out eventually.
Kayrall, what a dumb…….
When I found out about this little scandal I felt literally nothing and still couldn’t care less about what happened. I feel like it would be the same even if my team was affected by it. It’s just funny to sit back and watch how people suddenly care about the morality of the game.
If it was against the Marlins , he would have gotten less games
So 8 games out of a 60 game schedule? Are you saying this would be worth a 20 game suspension if it were a regular full schedule? Bogus and ridiculous
Yeah 8 games is absolutely ridiculous, particularly when he didn’t even actually hit anyone. Kelly was expressing what all the rest of us are feeling, and I doubt any of the this would have happened if MLB had shown some (any) competence in dealing with the situation
Tjeck and others – what do you think would happen if mlb did nothing and the next time it connected leaving someone permanently injured? You people don’t use your brains!
All teams were told “no retaliation “ on Astros, this is the one example to the other teams not to do this or this will be the punishment you will receive in a short season.
Admit didn’t see the incident, but can say never saw him throw at a hitter can remember in his Sox days. In fact.. He was 1 of the so called “comedy acts” who got along with everyone.
He’d get emotional on the mound sometimes however after a big k, but throwing at someone? Maybe pressure to fulfill his contract or something?
Kelly was caught doing this before, that’s why the longer punishment this time. Track record on people that throw at other people putting their lives in danger. You may not be old enough to remember Dickey Thon a very very good young short stop was hit in the head and was never the same had double vision for years and it cost him many millions of dollars in future contracts.
No mention of the cur$ing/taunting that came from the astro$ dugout as leading to thi$ though?
Nothing about a$tro$ $tarting it all by charging the field during $uppo$ed $ocial di$tancing?
Of cour$e not. No a$tro$ player
will never get $u$pended or face puni$hment from manfred.
What about suspending Correa or Gurriel or others who came to have a fight. . What a weak double standard the commissioner is. He did not enough to send a message to the Astros before who are clearly cheaters and cheated that year and on the World Series.
I would officially like to start the movement of Manfred needs to be fired! He clearly has no idea what he is doing anymore and I’m sick of it! It seems like every decision he makes these days is terrible can we please have a commissioner who grows a pair and does the right thing for once!?!?
If there hasn’t been an official start of the movement. Consider your motion seconded.
doug.dan? mail letters/postcards to MLB. (never got a cell fone)
Would you just let it go if someone threw a baseball at your head? I would want to fight too!
Good point, tho I would want to fight too if someone cost me millions and my career. The double standard still applies.
I would want to beat the hell out of someone who stole my WS trophy by cheating. Instead, I might just throw a baseball at them. You don’t get to complain about punishment when you cheat.
Kelly was caught doing this before, that’s why the longer punishment this time. Track record on people that throw at other people putting their lives in danger. You may not be old enough to remember Dickey Thon a very very good young short stop was hit in the head and was never the same had double vision for years and it cost him many millions of dollars in future contracts.
Ultimately it sounds like the question becomes is the means worth the ends. If the means costs other people than it is very easy to question the ends.
Manfred protects hitters and hates pitchers. That is what motivates his rule changes.
Dodgers Best team in baseball 2017. Defeated By Cheaters Astros.
Game 2 and Game 7. Enough said.
It’s confirmed they cheated on the road. Sit down and suck your thumb, child
Confirmed? In Dodger Stadium? They caused Yu to throw the ball all over the infield? Caused Kenley to give up a home run to Marwin? Caused Bellinger to hit .143 with 17 K’s?
Lots of crying from the Dodger camp, when looking in their own mirror would serve them well.
Kelly won’t win that one.
He should’ve gotten 10 games.
Throwing at heads ends careers
I’m not saying what Kelly did wasn’t wrong, but Correa, Bregman, and many of the 2017 Astros ruined many careers that year.
Nobody should throw at anybody’s head, but I’d like to see more teams throw at the shins or knees of the Astros.
Oh, okay. So where does it end? Will hitting 5 Astros batters make you happy? Or just hit them all every game?
What are you, 8 years old? At what point do you just play ball and compete instead wanting batters endangered?
Who had their careers ruined? One game, or even a few games against one team isn’t going to make or break a career. There are 28 other teams in the league you play against.
“Who had their careers ruined?”
I’m serious: when does it end? How many Astros need to get hit to satisfy you? Should every team hit them? What happens when one gets hit in the head, which your idol Kelly nearly did to Bregman last night?
Just hit batters all year right? Do you have any idea how idiotic that sounds?
I wonder if these people want Astros on other teams hit too. Does someone need to hit Marisnick or Marwin for their parts, even though they are on different teams?
They want them all hit in the head, and every game.
Meanwhile they would all be in jail if they acted like that in real life.
I think the Astros’ lack of remorse is what is really instigating a lot of this. Not that players wouldn’t be mad regardless but the fact that the Astros keep doubling down and acting victimized is just going to draw more ire. This won’t end because the Astros refuse to acknowledge they did anything exceptionally wrong.
Exactly
Sure, just get over it. Easy to say from the sidelines. I am sure that if we worked together and I took credit for your work, got your promotion and your raise, you would just let it go wouldn’t you? Don’t even bother trying to say yes you would because everyone here would see it as the obvious lie that it would be.
@yaketymac For the record, no Astros batter was hit. And nothing and no one will ever convince me that Kelly was throwing AT anyone last night. His SOLE intent was to put the Fear of Joe Kelly into the Astros batters, and he did that.
It ends when Asterisks man up and show some remorse. They stole a WS. sure they ratted out their GM and manager, but since when do criminals get to keep what they stole?
I don’t think anyone wants to purposely injure or end anyone’s career. They do however want them to wear it, and feel like they can get hit any time, they should not feel safe in the box all season or next imo. It should always be in the back of their minds.
Where does it end?
It ends with Kelly hitting the bases loaded and coughing up more runs for putting guys on-base. Batters endangered…they wear hundreds of dollars worth of padding. They are no longer endangered. They are empowered and brazen enough to stand nearly on-top of the plate.
That was the problem wuth the league’s weak punishment. Now, no one will be happy until it’s forgotten. Has players gotten suspended or the title removed in some fashion, fans and players wouldn’t be demanding vigilante justice.
doug.dan? mail letters/postcards to MLB. (never got a cell fone)
Yackymac – Quiet yourself.
I doubt he was throwing at their heads. Have you seen his fastball command these days? It’s non-existent. He threw almost all breaking pitches against SF. And yesterday it was mostly offspeed and he had no control on the fastball. I suspect that this is maybe the reason why he mysteriously disappeared from intrasquad games? Was he trying to hit Bregman? Probably. In the head? Doubt it. Probably wanted to drill him in the back and ball sailed. The other pitches were all offspeed pitches that got away.
The one against Bregman was 100% on purpose. The rest were breaking pitches, with terrible command.
Yakety –
Shouldn’t you be more concerned with the pandemic? (see above)
How many careers were ending because of their cheating ?
Who had a career ruined because of one team?
Clayton Kershaw’s legacy was certainly ruined by the cheaters. 21 Clayton Kershaw Curve’s and not a single strike. The rest of the series 11 innings of sub 2 era.
His playoff legacy wasn’t ruined by one outing.
The Astros actually ended atleast one career with their sign stealing. I believe it was Mike Bolsinger got lit up by the Astros, it was already proven they cheated in that game and you could clearly hear a trash can being banged on upon seeing replays. He ended up going to the DL after that appearance and never appeared again in the majors.
Seems like there were many other issues than one game. One game is not going to make or break a career. No matter how much someone wants to think that.
So does hitting balls like its BP off lower tier pitchers because you cheat and know what it coming.
Absolutely zero sympathy for any Astros players in any way.
It was at their damn waist….
Their fault for sucking… I mean ducking
Spin out of the way like every other major league ever
What a baby
He won’t but I could see it getting knocked down to 5 games or so.
Eight games is way too much to be suspended when the season is only 60 games. The Astros still have their championship when the whole world knows that they cheated. Crazy, right?
Yeah, this seems excessive. I think they either should’ve cut the suspension in half or given Correa a light suspension for encouraging the brawl. That way, Kelly still misses a couple of potential appearances but his absence isn’t quite so impactful. I don’t want to get into a major argument, but there’s technically no evidence his pitches were intentional. However, he did induce the dispute and broke social distancing guidelines. If both sides are punished, teams will understand this sort of childish behavior is unacceptable in the future
The 8 days is a warning to all the other teams that want to throw at the Cheatros.
Yes it is. Better think twice.
Having said that, this should be the standing rule ANYTIME a batter has a ball thrown at his head.
agreed. suspensions need to be increased for this sort of thing. Kelly got 8 for throwing three pitches aggressively and actimg immaturely. frankly that might be too light.
“Acting immaturely” good lord, get over it. If that’s all it takes to get suspended Madison Bumgardner would perpetually serving a suspension.
He didn’t say a damn word till Houston said at least 3 things and were in the field. Talk about ignoring facts. Man dude…
He said ‘Nice Swing Bitch’ to Correa after he struck out.
And all opposing pitchers risk suspension if they throw inside. That’ll serve those cheating Astros right!
Manfred again showing how much he approves of the Astros cheating. Guy has done nothing but wink and nod every chance he can. You give Kelly an eight game suspension for ‘throwing around the head’. You know who else got an eight game suspension? Rougned Odor. And he didn’t throw anything ‘around the head’. Just his fist directly into Bautista’s face. Unreal.
Manfred is a gypsy witch doctor.
How many Astros were suspended for cheating?!
Kelly takes a chance on permanently injuring Bregman and Correa. The penalty for the crime of cheating is to face a brave never was cast off pitcher, standing 60 feet a way aiming at your head. After all they cheated that deserves a death sentence. Joe Kelly is so brave and our hero, he is not good for anything else.
Pitch to Correa was an offspeed pitch. You don’t throw that if you want to hit someone.
People don’t like facts when it doesn’t support their narrative
Welcome to the world 2020! Facts vs. Feelings
lmao if you truly think that ‘Facts vs. Feelings’ is something exclusive to ‘the world 2020’. This is as old as humanity itself.
It was at their damn waist. Get out of the way like any other player and it’s nothing
He also missed in the same height middle middle multiple pitches. Get over yourself
Everyone that wouldn’t have been immediately overturned in a court. In a fair world a lot of the players should have been suspended. Labor union laws and the CBA prevented that in this case. MLB either wastes time and resources or issues the immunity to find out the true scope of it all.
Immunity
And the Astros have been suspended 0 games for cheating and violating social distancing. Seems fair. (Eyeroll)
Guess we forget what immunity means.
Doesn’t mean it’s justified lmfao. But keep defending the biggest cheaters in the last hundred years. Good thing to teach your kids. Cheat to win? No punishments!!
Pathetic
Everybody cheats a little bit, so yes, many cheat to win. I’m sure you cheated in school on something, and I doubt you’d teach your kids to do the same.
And you can complain about suspensions all day, but the whole reason to grant immunity is to get the information. You wouldn’t know much of anything about this scandal if immunity hadn’t been given in the first place.
But stay salty, my friend.
Correra needs a suspension as well. He’s the one who stepped up to fight. Astros cheated and got a ring. You need thicker skin.
Kelly is the one whose skin isnt thick enough
darkside, please stop commenting forever.
Afraid of the truth?
Say it to me too, pinstripes.
And while you’re saying it maybe remember the Yankees are proven cheaters also.
glad you are so angry at the Astros that you cant even tolerate anyone who disagrees with how they are dealt with. but hey, ill stop commenting. anything for you random dude who disagrees with me.
I don’t disagree with Kelly’s suspension at all. He threw towards a player’s head. I think Correa deserves one too is all. Astros should have been prepared for this.
They are, which is why Bregman didn’t say a word and went to first base. The rest of the league should have been prepared for this kind of discipline. League told them in spring training not to do this.
I’m not a big fan of Bregman but he handled the situation perfectly. Much better than Correa did.
Yea. Bregman did the right thing. Correa did not. That’s why Correa deserves a suspe
He was having control issues all inning.
but…but…he stuck his tongue out… 8 games (roughly 20 games in an actual season.)
cheating…meh
should’ve offered him immunity for his testimony.
The one at Bregman wasn’t a control issue. That was 100% on purpose. The rest was his terrible command last night. Yuli and Correa got inside pitches because he was wild last night.
The players need to refuse to play for as long as Kelly is suspended and send a message to ol Manfred. Force him to take his head out of his butt and do something
Kelly is the last person id stand up for
What’s with the personal vendetta against Kelly?
Your hatred for Kelly to the point of defending Houston is a hilariously awful look for you
Such a cry-baby. Get over it.
Why? Kelly was on a team that was cheating and there were more than just the Astros and Red Sox cheating.
And miss out on their pay and service time consequences and such? Yeah that’s not going to happen.
Well ya, the players proved they were just as much all about the money as the owners during “negotiations” to start the season, so I agree that they won’t. But they could make a powerful statement that would be a lot more effective than continuing to bean the Astros, as entertaining as that will no doubt be.
Astros should’ve been suspended this whole year.
Yackymac – Quiet yourself.
The fastball behind Bregman was intentional. The offspeed pitch behind Correa was NOT. Anyone who believes that Joe Kelly tried to send a message to Correa with an offspeed pitch has no clue! Either way, the Astros have it coming. Joe – take your suspension and keep your head up. Correa – keep your mouth shut and stay on your toes.
Bingo. If he hit Bregman in the ribs he probably doesn’t get suspended.
Nah, he still gets suspended, but it’s probably reduced. Manfred already came out and said that any retaliation against the Astros will be instant suspension.
If Bergman spins, it hits his waist and no one gives a damn
They intentionally dived into a fetal position to say it for their heads. Yawn
Did you even see the replay? It is behind his head, not his waist. Are you so distorted that your eyes are lying to you now???
Why not suspend the Astros the whole season then?
Yeah, I get it. The Astros cheated. We get it. Hit Bregman in the back and move on.
Kelly making ridiculous faces and making it all about him (as usual) isn’t really settling a score. It’s bush league
So Kelly making ridiculous faces and your assumption that “making it about him,” (which is a ridiculous claim), is the last straw to you? What the Astros did is beyond bush league. The MLB did not punish the players, so I expect other teams to punish the Astros. Although I do not agree with throwing near the head, I expect this to continue.
Again, still waiting for Joe Kelly’s idiot fan club here to tell us how many Astros should get hit for this to equal justice.
Let’s hear the number. I’ll keep waiting, fanboys
yackymac- Forever. Suspended for ever.
EXACTLY! And I’m fine with plunking Bregman is you want, but at the head is a no go. And once or twice in enough.
yaket – you really have it out for Kelly don’t you? How did he make it about him? Seems to me like Correa kept it all going as much as Kelly did
How did he make it about him?
Let’s see: throwing at Bergman’s head instead lower where a non-meathead professional pitcher would’ve hit him.
Making idiotic faces because he wanted to win Twitter for the day, acting like they weren’t purpose pitches, then taunting the other team.
There was no doubt whatsoever he would be suspended today. The fanboys here acting like this is some grave injustice are ridiculous. Kelly got what he deserved.
Now I want the Astros lynch mob here to tell me how many Astros need to get hit for justice to be served. While you’re at it, tell me how many Yankees and Red Sox should be hit too. Give me the names of the batters you want hit and how many beanballs will satisfy you.
The Bregman pitch looked like it was going to hit him in the shoulders. The fact that Bregman ducked is what made it such a close call.
But regardless, it warrants a suspension.
Yeah Yakety first says that we shouldn’t be concerning ourselves with such things during a pandemic, then spends the next hour or so complaining about the same exact topic. Kelly must’ve kicked his dog or something
As a Dodgers fan, I actually agree with you that JK should be suspended. 8 games is ridiculous and should (will be) appealed. To answer the even more ridiculous question you keep asking… how about 10. Let’s hit 10 of their guys and see how we feel after. I have a few favorites but any 10 will do. In fairness, it can be the same guys multiple times. Does that satisfy your curiosity?
I get punishing Kelly for throwing at hitters. But a suspension for “making faces” is absurd. Grow some thicker skin.
It’s called taunting the opposing team, and it says a lot more about Kelly and you than anything else.
Again, grow some thicker skin. Players jaw at each other all the time and don’t get suspended. This is nitpicking.
Kelly’s taunting was literally referenced in his suspension, moron. Tell Manfred to grow thicker skin, tough guy.
That’s exactly what I’m saying, it’s absurd that MLB would suspend him for such a thing. I can’t tell you how often I’ve seen Madison Bumgardner yelling at batters and baserunners. How is “making a face” any worse?
And the fact that you seem to be agreeing with it means the thicker skin comment still applies to you. But thanks for starting with the name calling just because I disagreed with you. You’re right, you don’t need thicker skin.
Taunting the opposing team??? Lol . The Asterisks are living breathing walking taunt to the whole league. They ruined a whole season of baseball and have the nerve to expect everyone to move on.
Trash take in support of a trash team.
I personally found it hilarious and think that the Astros should get ready to see stuff like this over the remaining 54 or so games.
I mean, honestly, how can you be an Astros fan? Your team cheated, your players stats are false, and your trophy is paper. I’d burn my gear and become a Ranger fan.
Ah.
He’s an Astros* fan.
Well, that certainly clears that up for me.
If you’re talking to me, I’m not an Astros fan.
Woods rider – Right on rant!! Explaining to ones child about the team they love is filled with cowards, liars, and cheats. (Oh my)
But you don’t care Correa was screaming at him… THE ONLY REASON HE MADE FACES?
God you’re dumb or biased or both…
Kelly ia a bum. im glad the league has taken a stance here. from what ive heard this was all inexcusable
Haha what a tool
Kelly has been a meathead on every team he’s played for. MLB is better off without him.
Million dollar arm and ten cent head his whole career
*$23+ million arm.
Except Kelly never hit anyone and walked 2. His anyone in baseball history been suspended this long for not hitting a single batter?
“Kelly never hit anyone”
Did you just start watching baseball games yesterday? He threw a fastball behind Bergman’s head.
So how many Astros players need to take fastballs in the head for you to be happy? When does it end?
You can’t suspend a pitcher this long for almost hitting someone. That sets up a dangerous precedent. Again, no one got hit.
You’re a clown
No amount is enough. The Astros need to be hit in the head until all the cheaters retire. Or until Manfred suspends them for cheating and takes their title away.
“The Astros need to be hit in the head until all the cheaters retire.”
You just illustrated my point. You’re a moron and you should be in jail.
Put sports in the proper perspective, you complete idiot. You don’t even deserve to watch them.
Lol “you should be in jail.” Folks, calm down.
Yeah “calm down” meanwhile I’m not the one that aid hit batters in the head I definitely
you’re crazy man
Whoa lol! ^^^^^^^
Get a load of that yakety guys meltdown.
What does any of that even mean lol
Time to climb down off of your soapbox, Yakety. We all understand VERY THOROUGHLY how you feel. Enough is enough
You’re getting just as worked up as they are. Relax.
Well considering that NONE have taken a ball at their heads I’m going to go with none. They just need to have it in their heads that they can get hit.
Yack man? Asros fan? Seems brah you ‘care’ for them cheetos.
Did you!?
ANY OTHER PLAYER spins and it’s at his ribs. The Astros wanted to make this seem as bad as possible. And you’re a pawn buying into it
Seriously? Lol
seriously what? throwing 95+ MPH fastballs at people is reckless, and making stupid faces and comments about it is just icing on the cake of stupidity
He never hit anyone. It’s just like how you can’t arrest someone for almost committing a crime.
It looked worse than it really was. He threw one fastball to the Giants out of 17 pitches. I don’t think he threw a fastball strike to the Astros and only threw a handful, mostly breaking pitches. Why do you think that is? He’s really struggling with the fastball. Not quite the yips but I’m sure the Dodgers are concerned. He was a one pitch pitcher against Correa and yet Correa struck out. Do I think he tried to hit Bregman? Probably. 3-0 pitch. But I doubt he was trying to hit him in the head.
You have no idea how things actually work do you?
There’s a reason attempted murder is a crime.
There’s also a reason get away drivers are charged with a crime as an accomplice even though they didn’t actually commit the crime.
Guys are charged and convicted all the time as accomplices or attempting to commit a crime but actually don’t.
Actually there are many “attempt” crimes where the actual crime is not completed or successfully executed.
In this case Kelly was charged with murder. 8 games in a 60 game season is not an attempt offense.
Do guys get charged for grand theft?
wow you are a fool how can you be this ignorant to what has happened in the last three seasons?
no, but i do know a thing about being being professional and i can tell you Kelly wasnt doing that.
Every single person championing Kelly here is saying the same thing: Astros deserved it, who cares.
But when does it end? Why should Kelly not be punished for throwing at a batter’s head? It’ll just happen again if they don’t punish him.
A fastball in the head can kill a batter.
The irony is Manfred effectively created this mess. The players would’ve been angry no matter what but Manfred’s inaction is what spurred players to take things into their own hands.
Sure I don’t disagree. Manfred deserves a lot of blame for this. But he didn’t throw at someone’s head
Not literally, but he absolutely did figuratively speaking. His lack of actions speak volumes.
Bregman’s was at the shoulder and Correa’s was a breaking ball. Maybe the hysteric’s of “he threw at his head” can be calmed down a bit.
But you also said that Marisnick tried to avoid contact with Lucroy last year, which clearly was not the case, and that Noe tried to murder him.
so maybe hysterics are your thing.
Yacker? You the onlyist one.
Go watch his whole inning. He missed that same height over the plate multiple times. He threw almost exclusively breaking balls. Shut up dude you clearly are biased af
Who did you hear from?
While I wouldn’t stand up for Kelly here, Correa was chirping the whole time. Kelly threw towards the head. His suspension is justified. Correa deserves some suspension time as well. 1 game would have been fine. Ridiculous double standard.
Dang. 8 games this year is like a 21 game suspension during a normal year.
My guess is because of the multiple meetings since January addressing this very situation. Hit Bregman in the ribs and maybe get a game, but probably just a fine.
Nah, hitting someone intentionally is pretty much always an automatic suspension. The whole “just don’t aim for the head” argument is splitting hairs. Once you’re aiming for the guy’s back it you don’t need to be off by much to get dangerously close to the head and neck.
And if Bergman spins, it hits his ribs…
He overblew it and you and manfred bought it
Hilarious. Astros totally subvert the integrity of the game and have zero players suspended. The world continues to be so crazy upside down in 2020.
8 games? Wow…he’s getting more than the guys who actually get in bench clearing brawls…8 more games than any of the cheaters
I’ll always be a Joe Kelly fan after last night.
the worst example of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”
Gotta protect the snitches
Smh
Manfred is such a weenie. Thank you Joe Kelly, a man of the people. Come back and keep doing what needs to be done!!
Hitting batters is “what needs to be done”?
If you want to hit someone, hit them backside or lower back. Kelly is an idiot.
But he has gifs of himself making funny faces all over Twitter, so I’m sure Joe’s pleased with all the attention today.
The Astros feel entitled because Manfred gave them immunity. They are a bunch of children who have been taught the wrong way to play baseball. He’s teaching them a lesson about the harsh reality that is MLB, not whatever game they have been playing under soy boy Hinch and Luhnow. I stand by my statement. Thank you, Joe.
i think we’re all entitled to not being physically injured for, lets face it, something that doesnt nessicate physical injury.
This is Manfred’s fault. If they had been given the punishment they were worthy of, we wouldn’t be in this situation. It’s up to the players now to make it right.
“The Astros feel entitled”
What does that even mean? It’s idiotic.
Kelly could hit 5 more Astros and you’d still be here cheering him on to hit more. It says a lot about what a clown you are.
They feel entitled because of the immunity Manfred gave them.. did you not read my sentence? Lol. To make you feel good about your comment, I’m gonna say you’re right. I hope he does hit 5 more. And I’ll still be here to cheer him on!
I understand where Spencer99 is coming from because it reminds me of something I just went through. I had to resign from my job because a co-worker harassed me for a month so a couple of weeks ago I got fed up and spat in his face with my mask down. I previously complained about his behavior to the morning supervisor who turned it into a he-she-said thing and asked what’s going on. I said nothing and walked away because this guy has had complaints against him drom others before he began to target me. Management thinks he’s a nice guy so he probably feels like he has immunity.
Who got physically injured?
Wow what a coward move to spit at someone. Be a man and throw a punch. Somebody spit in my face it would be the last time they’d be able to spit for a long time!
go asos? Dude? You are suppose to learn. Spitting is for the primary grades. And most don’t. You assaulted a person for yammering @ you? Wow. You might want to consider stowing that story for ever. Your grandkids would be ashamed. oh i get it. You were spoofing us. Funny guy. Read Krishna-murti.
Spitting is considered assault, aka the same as throwing a punch.
Cecildawg, I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Man give up. Your position is lame!
#JoeKelly4MVP
GREAT MOVE BY MLB!! All of these teams have already been warned back during spring training that they can’t throw at Astros batters in an effort to retaliate for 2017. Strong, and correct message, sent by MLB.
Softy Hahahah
You must be a call the cops kind of guy lol
No. I’m an investigation was done, MLB ruled, time to move on kind of guy.
I seriously couldn’t care less about the Astros, Red Sox or Yankees past cheating (all 3 teams did) during a pandemic.
Just keep the season going and that means knock off the stupid bench clearing nonsense which will cause outbreaks
Lol yes let’s suffer more!!
Agree with this…
Thanks Karen
Show me the proof the Yankees were cheating. Just because you hate a team that is far more superior than yours doesn’t mean they were cheating. People are such morons
Venom, just google reputational injury. Yankees. Easy to verify Yankees were fined during MLB investigation of RedSox in 2018. Beltran brought a more sophisticated level of cheating from Yankees to the Astros. It was prevalent throughout the league. Sign stealing has been around since the beginning of baseball. Many – including me – believe using tech to cheat is going too far but the ethics is the same whether it’s a runner on second relaying signals or beating on a trashcan while watching live feeds. MLB created this problem allowing access to live feeds during a game. 8 second time delay would have prevented this entire mess.
You are a moron if you think that it was a strong and correct message. MLB should have taken the strong and correct message when handing out their punishment to the Astros for cheating themselves to a World Series and stealing an MVP award. That is where the strong and correct punishment should have been added. Yet they got a slap on the wrist and immunity and protection by a moron commissioner. The commissioner is a little late. But lets suspend Kelly for over 10% of the season because we have to protect the special cheaters.
When does it end, logan26? How many Astros need to get hit for it to be justice?
Tell us the number, tough guy.
188,097,884,776 you good now?
I was going to say “let the players decide” but your number sounds more entertaining. Just, no headhunting please and thanks!
you couldn’t be more wrong
No, I’m right. League issued its discipline. Like it or not, time to move on.
Benches cleared, but not much “action.”
Lord.
It appears to me that MLB has much bigger things to attend to than the micromanagement of it’s players.
Stick to figuring out how this season is going to be played and stop flexing on how players have always addressed the kind of garbage the Astros* pulled.
What a joke, man.
You’re right. Let’s have more bench clearing brawls. Why don’t the players start hugging on the field, just to make sure the season’s shut down.
Merci.
Thanks for acknowledging it’s the correct take.
🙂
As for the hugging stuff… I guess I’m not to interested in that. But that was *your* suggestion. Not mine.
So there’s that.
The Astros are why the benches cleared and they get nothing
Hahaha man your logic is dumb
Its a shame social distancing had to be this year
There would have been nothing more baseball than a brawl last night between the 2 teams
The players in the cornfields would have had all smiles watching and so would I
A lot of folks here want to claim these guys only play for the money but the second something real and emotional happens its “well I would have used better judgment”…..
No, just hell No, the Dodgers needed to get out and fight for themselves. For their pride, for their let go process, for their healing……. I thought they showed great constraint to realize the time we are in and not just charge at the army the ASTROS were walking to OUR side of the field with
Im not a violent guy, but that fight REALLY needed to happen last night in a normal year; For us, and Baseball
More protection for the cheaters. Unbelievable!
clearly some of these pitchers dont know how much damage a baseball can do at the velocity they throw it. its like a teenager driving a car carelessly. you’re in control of the instrument and you are responsible for what happens while you are opperating/throwing it
Thanks pops
There goes Cheater-protecting Rob Manfred giving a 8-day suspension to someone who is trying to stand up for the victims.
Manfred is a disgrace to baseball. Protecting the Astros no matter the cost to other teams. No one was hit and Kelley is a wild pitcher. He lucked out that inning despite his lack of control. Clearly he didn’t intend to hit Correa, his two back to back off location pitches showed as such. Manfred needs to be removed and replaced especially his choices to continually kill the game. Obviously he doesn’t know deadly squat about the game.
Him covering up for the Red Sox and Yankees (among other teams) has saved the game. A full on cheating scandal involving most of the league could’ve brought down the sport.
Yep
Nice to see Joe Kelly took offense to the same thing his 2018 Red Sox team did.
True dat!
No kidding. And he was an idiot on the 18 Red Sox too
Thanks for endangering 2 teams and jeopardizing the entire season, Joe. Bench clearing brawls are such a great idea during a pandemic, meathead.
i don’t see what he did wrong…
yeah, Joe Kelly is a real upright citizen. lets give him a congressional medal.
You probably don’t see what the Yankees did wrong either
What did they do wrong exactly? Explain with proof moron
Really? Grow a pair
Nice swing, B.
For their part in 2017 I have little to no problem pitchers throwing at these guys but not at their heads. Rib cage or thigh may not hurt as much but possibly ending a guys career a cheater or not is not very professional.
Astros must have pics on Manfred. What else explains this Astros love?
I do think this is fair.
But remind me again, how many Astros players were suspended for cheating?
.
.
…..crickets…..
So, given what happened, what outcome would you have rather had? Astros’ players aren’t given immunity and don’t tell the truth. As a result there is no evidence, no proof and nothing is done by MLB. Or, Astros players are given immunity, tell the truth so we all know what went on. Sounds like all of y’all would have preferred to bury your head in the sand. It happened, MLB got the proof the only way they could by giving immunity. It is time for folks to move on.
No, Puhl, as in Terry Puhl? MLB can’t touch the Cheatstros, but fans and other players still know what they did and should never forget. Only Astro fans think “it is time to move on.”
I guess fans can do what they want for as long as the want. Players can’t however. Throwing at someone’s head is a non-starter. Period end of discussion. MLB sent the warning in spring training. The Dodgers and Kelly ignored that just as much as the Astros ignored the warning from the league office about sign stealing. Both got dealt with. Fans can boo, whine and moan all they want. Players need to play.
I’ve seen the videos and heard the trash cans. There is a ton of proof. They cheated to win a world series. They deserve to be plunked (just not on the head).
That would still be circumstantial evidence in a court/hearing. Plenty of that type of stuff to discipline every team in the league. Brewers and MLB had similar circumstantial type evidence against the Dodgers and MLB could do nothing…..unless someone admits to the deed.
There you go being reasonable again
Immunity
Retaliation happens when the guy’s who cheated got away with no punishment whatsoever! I hope more pitchers do the same thing and maybe that will force the commissioner to do his job correctly! Won’t let Pete rose into the hall of game but absolutely fine letting the cheaters keep their rings!
Worst commissioner in baseball history, my God
Far from it. He will be remembered as the best when all is said and done.
LOL!!! rob manfred will go down in history as the worst commissioner of all time, in any sport.
you really dont know how bad some of baseball’s commisioners have been…
Ummm Yeah
Instead of suspension, they should punish the Dodgers by MAKING HIM KEEP PITCHING!
The players get fat bonuses for winning the world series, in addition to the rings, right? Did they have to give that cash back? The rings? Nope.
So why not invest in a quality camera and some Rubbermaids if there won’t be any repercussion?
MLB keeps getting worse and worse. Bunch of incompetent fools running it.
I love baseball, other than when they try and act tough in the least contact sport of the major sports.
“He threw a ball at me”…. “they cheated last year”… “he taunted me with what he was saying”…
NHL: throw knuckles, sit in a box for a few minutes, get back out there.
If Kelly’s suspension is upheld, I might actually delete MLB.TV, quit playing fantasy, and take a break from MLB this year. Still love baseball and will play in local leagues but just cut MLB out of my life. I’ve already done this with the NFL, but I like baseball so much more and wonder if I can actually do it. Probably not
Wish me luck cause I don’t think his suspension is getting taken away
@harms
This season has been eye opening, hasn’t it? I ditched the NBA a few years ago.
Ya know what? My life improved* if anything.
I don’t see myself walking away completely. But I’ve done it before.
I just keep thinking that small game opener is August first in Nebraska. Early season Canada goose opens in North Dakota on the 15th. Drew a black bear tag this year. And that’s just the beginning.
So it’s not like I don’t have a whole bunch of stuff to look forward to.
And, hey, NFL right around the corner.
*being a Knicks fan certainly made this easier to do 😉
cmon man. the guy is dope. beyond just the throwing his comments and facial expressions were terribly immature. quite frankly he’s not getting as long a suspension if he just throws those pitches and doesnt open his mouth.
You’re complete ignoring of how much the Astros did to him is ignorant and laughable
You’ve been laughable on this thread. Wow dude. Suck their D more
and the Astros hate bandwagon shows how reasonable they are by backing the biggest fool in baseball. yeah, we get it, you dont like the Astros. i dont condone throwing at guys, but throwing at guys and making stupid remarks is just flat out unprofessional.
yep, classy
Dude was an idiot for taunting.
correa was an idiot for crying that the pitch came too close to him for his liking.
are you kidding? all the darn faces Kelly was making? that’s not taunting?
Who cares?
Taunting was referenced in his suspension, “dirtbag.”
You keep “nitpicking” this one thing, yet MLB brought it up in writing. Get a clue.
anyone who actually cares about the integrity of the game. we cant just say that went out the window with the Astros response because that’s like saying making a past mistake justifies making the same mistake going forward. Kelly was clearly egging on Correa and the rest of the Astros by extention. i think that alone added at least a game or two to his suspension. entirely unprofessional.
So?
I’m not sure why you keep bringing up the fact that MLB suspended him for making faces. All that does is point out how absurd the MLB is being.
And why are you being so hostile? Relax, bud.
Should Madison Bumgardner be suspended when he yells at a batter? How about Brian McCann for getting mad at someone showboating?
Get over it.
I completely agree DarkSide830-
I by No means agree with Cheating of any kind, I follow daily God’s words and Commandments.
I’m Just so tired of the Hypocrisy of the Media’s Darling’s: Protect,Cover or Ignore.
Anyone who can Read knows
People in Glass Houses…
Did it hurt your feelings???
And correa screaming at him first? Kelly only responded to him yelling?
God you’re dumb. You just hate Kelly. We get it. But watch the damn video and shut up. You’re so wrong
This is the equivilant of getting in trouble trying to cheat on a test in school, the teacher telling you not to do it again, and then punishing the kid you tried to cheat off of after he yelled “Stop trying to cheat off of me!” for disrupting others.
can’t wait for tonight’s game
Eight games out of 60? That’s like 20 games in dog-games!
If you want to suspend Kelly to make a point, fine. But I don’t understand the logic in suspending Dave Roberts and not suspending Dusty Baker? If Roberts is being held accountable for his pitcher (Kelly), then shouldn’t Bake be held responsible for his players? Someone clearly had some extra commentary from the Astros dugout after the Brantley play. Whether that was Baker or someone else who said it, it definitely didn’t help the whole situation.
Manfred could have made this all stop by voiding the 2017 championship. The garbage slap on the wrist and zero player penalties is a gutless move. Additionally, the Astros’ players lack of remorse and their arrogant, classless responses to a brazen and unforgivable scandal adds a lot of fuel to the fire. Not saying Kelly should have done what he did…but…the books aren’t balanced on the Astros yet and may never be, and if Manfred won’t punish them, what’s the appropriate justice?
As a baseball fan, I get why the league did this and it goes beyond the retaliation aspect of the story. I think they realize it’s bad optics to have 60 baseball players on the field in close proximity, with the potential of fighting to occur, in the middle of a pandemic that his killed nearly 150,000 people in this country. They had to discourage anyone else from even thinking about starting an on-field fracas.
As a Dodgers fan, I think this is crap. Sure, there was intent in the 3-0 pitch to Bregman, and I’m glad he did it. Just wish he would have drilled him in the ribs or legs. Sucks that they threw the book at Joe Kelly on this, but a message had to be sent since the league failed to adequately discipline the Astros.
Amen….ida loved if that landed in he ribs
If that’s the case, why not suspend Correa? Asterisks, went to the Dodger dugout. Kelly didn’t go rushing the trashtros.
If you’re here promoting or advocating that Astros players should or need to be injured or potentially suffer brain damage from being hit in the head with a baseball cause they cheated at a kids game you need to reevaluate your opinions and lives immediately.
Throwing at guys should be outlawed.
No one is advocating injuring or killing players, bro. Well…actually *you* seem to be bringing it up quite a bit.
This is how baseball players have served justice for over a hundred damn years, bro.
It’s MLB. Not a church softball league, or whatever.
yaketymac
July 29, 2020
He should’ve gotten 10 games.
Throwing at heads ends careers
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pinstripes17
July 29, 2020
good, their careers should have been over after tjhey were caught cheating.
8ManLineupNoPitcherNoDH
July 29, 2020
I’ll always be a Joe Kelly fan after last night…..[for throwing behind a dudes head to send a message]
spencer99
July 29, 2020
Manfred is such a weenie. Thank you Joe Kelly, a man of the people. Come back and keep doing what needs to be done!! [throwing at guys heads or just throwing at them in general]
sure. nobody is advocating or supporting throwing at them.
wait. yes there are several people who think they should be thrown at and potentially injured.
BUT WAIT!
There’s more
Scrap1ron
July 29, 2020
Every team the Ashoes play should do this. Send a message to the cheaters and to Manafort and the Union.
Alexander
July 29, 2020
I hope the Astros get thrown at EVERY F’ING GAME.
sn0048
July 29, 2020
Headhunting is what nutjobs do. If you must throw at batters, aim for another body part…..Woods Rider
July 29, 2020
Not in this case. The broad cheating and how it went down means the gloves should come off. If Manfred had a sack and did the right thing, then I would agree with you.
He didn’t and left it to the players. Now the check has been cashed. Deal with it.
Woods Rider
July 29, 2020
The only mistake Kelly made was he didn’t connect with 98 in the temple.
Were you pounding on your chest after typing this out?
Baseball isn’t life or death. There are other ways make your anger known very well.
“The only mistake Kelly made was he didn’t connect with 98 in the temple.”
I posted “injuring or killing”, bro.
Hell, I freely admit to advocating throwing at them.
Same thing in all your “examples”.
You’re a good dude. But track with me here, Bison.
its amazing how we want to uphold the worst aspects of these games sometimes. let. it. die.
At first glance I thought 8 for Kelly was pretty heavy
Every team the Ashoes play should do this. Send a message to the cheaters and to Manafort and the Union.
How a suspension for the player who dropped the “F” bomb from Astro’s dugout which was so clear even the announcer commented about the potty mouth ? Didn’t the 570+ rule book say something about bench clearing brawls ? Where were the masks ? Social distancing ? I’m not sure which game I saw on highlights but there were players hugging, no mask, etc ?? Guess the umpires are enforcing these rules like batters staying in the box !! Commonly called selective rule enforcement.
I don’t think the Joe Kelly Fight Club will think fondly of this-
Best part is only the manager once again get punished for Astros actions. MLB said they would severely punish any team for actions that went against social distancing. Entire Astro dugout empties and drives towards Dodger dugout. Dave Roberts can be seen trying to keep player back. Nothing is being done by Astros… hmmm seems normal
I hope the Astros get thrown at EVERY F’ING GAME.
The players on the 1919 White Sox saw their lives ruined as all were completely banned from baseball. The 2017 Astros were flat-out caught cheating and, still, in 2020, are being protected by MLB. What a farce! The Astros fans and apologists who condone their behavior and don’t demand that they at least vacate the 2017 title are just as bad as those effing cheaters. If MLB, the Astros, or Houston fans think “enough is enough” now, just wait until Dodger fans are back in the stands and the Astros come to play at Dodger Stadium, or even in Angel Stadium,. The Asterisks will really be crying and pouting then as the boos rain down on them during every at-bat. It will stay this way for years until they vacate that title. If the Asterisks were mature men, they would just shut up and take their relatively slight punishment from fans and also stop crying at brushback pitches or being held on first. Because, in reality, Altuve, Bregman, Springer, Verlander, all of them, they should have all be banned from MLB! Yes, even the pitchers! Dusty Baker should also eff off! There should be no MLB champion of 2017. There might have been had there been no cheating, but we will never know.
throwing is much more damaging to the integrity of the game then cheating to win is. and we also forget that that was 100 years ago. society and sports were different then. for better or for worse you know if the Black Sox scandal happened today the suspensions wouldnt be lifetime.
Pete Rose?
Omg. Throwing at a guys ribs is worse than cheating to mvps and World Series titles?
Hope you know you have zero credibility on this. What a dumb claim
Man Fred is an absolute joke
Okay, just hear me out on this one, and I will own my Dodger bias up front. It is BS that Kelly tossed a ball near two heads, and made a silly face, and got suspended, while the cheaters got a light touch on the wrist. I have an idea. Since the 2017 Astros season is tainted, and so is that short wee man cheater’s MVP award, and the post season, and the World Series, I have a great idea. We all know the Astros 2017 season is tainted, therefore, to resolve the issues, let the cheaters keep their tainted trophy, and MVP awards. I say, after every game that anyone plays that was at anytime on the Astros 2017 roster, that (or those) players must report to the pitching mound. Every active player that is still playing, that also played in the 2017 season against said Astros rostered players, shall take their sweaty. post game t’aint, and rub it all over the cheater. The 2017 Astros have been tainted, now, let every player that played against them rub their t’aint against the cheaters.
dgojosh? What?
Suspend for life!
Headhunting is what nutjobs do. If you must throw at batters, aim for another body part. Insult their parents for failing to raise them correctly before throwing at the head and face area, but aim for another body part, more ideally.
100% correct
Not in this case. The broad cheating and how it went down means the gloves should come off. If Manfred had a sack and did the right thing, then I would agree with you.
He didn’t and left it to the players. Now the check has been cashed. Deal with it.
Manfred’s failures, and I see them like everyone else who cares to be real, are not an excuse to potentially inflict serious injuries on other players, cheaters or not. That’s immature, machoman logic.
I don’t condone throwing at players but the players had no other recourse, here. Manfred brought this on.
Amen.
Well I sure as hell wouldn’t want to get on your bad side for any reason. Your logic might dictate attacking me with a machete as the only recourse. Macho-Machoman
“Ohhhh yeahhhhh” – Macho Man.
::Thumbs Up::
the league is in charge here. they saie their ruling was final and that the players had no business trying to make up their own punishments. Kelly was a fool, disregarded the warning and was rightfully punished. whether these teams like it or not, those are the rules.
Exactly!
I mean the red sox got rid of their manager due to this.
Same with the Yan-… oh, wait. I’m seeing a problem with your well laid out argument, sir.
😉
The rules also say you cannot use a video camera to steal signals and relay them to batters. Does the rule book say which rules HAVE to be followed and which are subjective?
Funny everyone keeps mentioning the Yankees cheating yet nobody can produce any proof. Funny how that works
It was at the ribs… they ducked to make it seem way worse
He spins and it hits his butt
So we suspend guys for throwing at cheaters, but the cheaters get off with no punishment. Got it.
He’s lucky to just get 8 game suspension, could have been more. As far as “stealing” WS, all teams steal signs to some degree or at least try, Astros just went too far with it. Who knows if Dodgers would have won if they didn’t, would have maybe played someone else and lost.
Doesn’t matter. Dodgers didn’t have a fair shot going into the ’17 WS. Neither would any other opponent.
you dont know that. we’ve seen the past few years that the Dodgers have poorly managed their pen in the postseason and lost. they had just as good a team last year and were bounced before the WS. not to say they couldn’t have won those series if played fair, but its nearly as clear as you make it out to be.
Manfred is the absolute worst. Someone should tell Manfred that this is what happens when you fail to give out any real punishment. The players will take it onto their own hands. YOU. Rob manfred. This is YOUR FAULT!!! you brought this upon the Astros. And guess what? They absolutely deserve it. not one player will be suspended a single game for YEARS of cheating!! YEARS.
He got off easy with only 8 games. MLB has made it overtly clear that fighting will be not allowed in 2020 with massive suspensions being issued to anyone who fights. So inciting a fight which Kelly certainly did through numerous actions (verbal taunting, visual taunting and throwing several pitches at players heads) must be punished in equally harsh manner. Add to the fact that the gutless pitcher who knows they cannot come out to fight nor throw at him since NL now has DH is so cavalier knowing he’s completely safe, well, it doesn’t get more pathetic than that. He could easily have ended Bregman’s career with that shockingly dangerous act.
Only people who like Joe Kelly are Nationals fans who I think encouraged their team to vote him a full playoff share for the meatball he threw Howie Kendrick last October…
@ trigato Did you watch the game? Have you seen him pitch his last few outings? The guy has ZERO fastball command right now. To the point that he rarely throws the fastball even though it goes up to 100 mph. It’s hard to determine intent but easier when he’s struggling so much with command. I’ve seen guys like Pedro Martinez with pinpoint control the whole game all of a sudden drill some guys. That is evident that he’s throwing at someone. The only pitch that was intentional was Bregman’s 3-0 pitch and I doubt he tried to throw it at his head. With his fastball command right now I don’t know how anyone can say with confidence that he was trying to throw it at his head. I do think that he was either try to throw it behind him or maybe somewhere in the back but it sailed on him.
As a Dodger fan I don’t mind the suspension too much as Joe Kelly should not be in a ball game unless it is a really low leverage situation. At this point, you cannot count him as he is a one pitch pitcher. Without that 96-100 mph fastball he is not as effective. Seems like it’s a mental thing and he’s scared to throw the fastball. He needs to iron this out before Roberts puts him in closer games. I was surprised that they didn’t yank him out before facing Correa.
MLB needs to address and fix this debacle. Today. They opened a can of worms by giving immunity to the Astros. How could they not see that the players would now be forced to police the issue? This might be the final nail in Manfred’s coffin. Such a sorely mismanaged incident that falls squarely into his lap. Kelly didn’t even hit anyone… and the Astros clearly deserve suspensions as well… just a farcical take to only suspend Kelly and Roberts… and 8 games for Kelly? 14% of the season… for not even hitting anyone? C’mon, man! What a joke protecting the cheats has become.
The Astros should be suspended for cheating, but it’s clear the MLB couldn’t care less
Exactly! This is just another case of Manfred protecting people to save his own skin,
Everyone that came off the bench should be fined, at a minimum. It’s time for baseball to end this garbage. Any other sport, you leave the bench, it’s an automatic suspension. If they get it to the point that it’s the pitcher vs batter, anyone else gets involved is automatically ejected & suspended, no appeal, starts the next day. That would stop this, as a brawl would result in a forfeit if you can’t field a team.
The Asterisks can end this by vacating the 2017 title, and be grateful they weren’t banned from MLB.. Giving back the trophy would make them the Astros again. There, problem solved. The Dodgers would still be out a possible 2017 championship, but nothing can be done about that now…
Can they retroactively suspend Kelly for breaking Hanley’s ribs in the LCS in 2013? Still mad about that
If the Astros 2017 title gets stripped, then I would say YES!
Give us a non-tainted title and we’ll gadly give the up 2017 title.
Non tainted title? From an an Astros fan!?! That’s the only way they won.
Astros couldn’t win without cheating. If they could have, we’d never know.
Then we’ll gladly celebrate our tainted one.
how would you know either way?
Give you a title? How about you earn it… with honor this time.
Then we’ll just keep and celebrate our tainted one.
And yet you wonder why and complain when people treat you like trash.
Brave of you to talk about your ugly, cowardly spit ball act…. but I really just hope you can learn and grow from your experiences, goastro123. Celebrating a cheater’s title is an absurdly ridiculous thing to latch onto. Be well, bruh. Do better.
Man… I mean, that’s really gotta be a drag, @goastros*123. Uh?
You wait all those years. Go through all those 100+ loss seasons. And then…YESSSS WE WON! Uh? Probably made all those years/decades (what in the name of Dickie Thon!?) of irrelevance *almost* completely worth it.
Bet.
Man.
And then – just like that! – all 29 fan bases are (rightfully so) discounting your only championship.
It becomes totally illegitimate in the eyes of every other fan. The only one’s who take the “accomplishment” seriously are you and a few of your fellow homers.
Painted into a corner.
Uh?
That’s some fecking Greek tragedy stuff right there, son.
You don’t have to cling to your delusion. But I bet it’s probably easier to do that for a certain type of person.
Have good night, son.
😉
People are choosing to abandon common sense. Joe Kelly threw behind Bregman. It’s one thing to throw at a guy’s back and it’s another thing to throw at a guy’s head INTENTIONALLY. That’s dangerous territory. You’re not trying to injure people. Granted, Bregman wasn”t hit but the whole point of why that territory is dangerous in the first place is because of what could happen. Does any one here know why the spitball was made illegal? A player was hit by one and died because of complications of being hit. Where was he hit? Above the shoulders and to be more specific, he was hit in the head. You can send a message without entering that territory. Many people condemn Astros fans for choosing to stand with our team because we supposedly lack morals but will turn around and advocate for intentionally putting Astros players at risk for being seriously injured, which is just as immoral as they perceive us to be.
Problem is you don’ t know his intent. Kelly has been extremely wild, especially with the fastball. I think the reason why he was held out of Dodger intrasquad games. It’s one thing if the guy had pinpoint control and threw one at the head. I doubt he was trying to hit Bregman in the head.
You might be right, but given how the at-bat with Correa and the aftermath went I’m certain it was intentional.
I ran out time to edit my comment: You’re right that he is wild at times. I think he wasn’t trying to hit him in the head but tried to send a message by throwing behind him while expecting Bregman to duck. That’s a dangerous message to send.
There was no reason for him to duck EXCEPT to then say it was for his head. It should have hit… highest his numbers prolly his back/butt. They used theatrics to overblow it and you ate it up
I agree with the head being TOTALLY off limits
Now if he cracked a rib Id have no problem with it
We learned all these things in little league (well 20th century LL) neways
The game takes care of itself and it works better this way
8 games is nuts. Equivalent to 20 games or so in a regular 162 season. Are they just picking numbers out of a hat? Even NFL would have tried to make it look proportional (unless Pats were involved)
I’m sure that number will decrease after it gets appealed. It’s a just for show number.
Just suspend him for 4.
If Kelly is so eratic that he will unintentionally throw pitches at batters heads multiple times per appearance, and thinks its funny when he does so, he should be suspended to protect all MLB players.
Please go home and not post again. Thank you and good day.
Why aren’t any Astros suspended? And why is “taunting” an issue? It’s been part of baseball rivalry since the beginning. Once again Manfred kisses Houston’s ass like they are victims while fans of 29 other teams think they didn’t get close to what they deserved?
One guy a night should get beamed. I’ve seen hs pitchers throw at guys who tried to relay signs from second which is way less egregious then a video/relay from locker room system
because “taunting” opens a can of worms. escalates or extends the conflict. you cant just act like this was some normal banter between players. it was pointed, crude, and immature, and with no fans to block out the words, you should expect to be more criticized for those words.
THEN WHY DONT YOU CARE WHAT THE ASTROS SAID… FIRST!?
Because you’re biased af
I now wonder if the infamous Joe Kelly IG video breaking his window was posted to lay foundation for him throwing and nailing an Astro, making the argument – “look, you know how rusty I am from the viral video my wife posted…”. lol
I thought the same while we watched the in-game highlights from the Padre broadcast. Laying the groundwork for his “verified wildness” this season…
Or he just has no command right now….
He’s already completely lost his release point 2x in 2 years in LA. this isn’t kershaw throwing at a head. He looks horrible right now even before this.
Yeah, that’s probably more likely. Is he getting the yips? I guess time will tell… after what I think should be a reduced suspension.
fire manfred!
First time leaving a comment,the Pettiness or Untruths are glaring, but I’ve heard one two many.
For the Fantasy Loving Dodger Fans, Wake Up!!! Most of you live in Cali, which Always lives in Dreamland.
You are defending a pitcher who was a Red Sox in 2018, Who CHEATED YOU IN 2018.
You have 3 Red Sox Cheaters on Your Team, Betts,Price(who opted out this yr)and Kelly.
How Ironic, but typically for people who live in their on Fantasy World.
Krob? First time? Yeah. Did you write that out first? Run your small kine rant by anyone? Yeah. Well. All the best to you.
Let’s hope 20 more pitchers do the same. That’ll send a message to Manfred.
The real reason the Dodgers did not win that World Series is because they went cheap at the trade deadline. Instead of getting Verlander and then pay his salary for a few more years they got Darvish because he cost less. Fast forward to Game 7 in LA (no trash cans) and the Astros hitters absolutely wiped the floor with Darvish to pick up the win. If the Astros weren’t the better team they would have won all their home games and lost all the road games, which didn’t happen. I’m not an Astros fan but I am tired of all the whining from the Dodgers fans.
This is revisionist history. Darvish was the big prize of that deadline. This was before Verlander’s resurgence.
Also, conspicuously absent mention of the road buzzers.
Because there weren’t any
Ummmm-hmmmm… you take the cheater’s word on that?
As was said (not by me) on a Dodgers fan site: “This suspension couldn’t miss justice further without Joe Kelly throwing it.”
It is time to end MLB’s anti-trust exemption.
I completely agree DarkSide830-
I by No means agree with Cheating of any kind, I follow daily God’s words and Commandments.
I’m Just so tired of the Hypocrisy of the Media’s Darling’s: Protect,Cover or Ignore.
Anyone who can Read knows
People in Glass Houses…
When you refuse to take action, you leave the Astros fate in the hands of others. What happened last night, what is going to happen in the future, could have all been avoided if Manfred had issued a proper punishment or if the Astros had taken proper responsibility.
As a Dodger fan Im ok with the 8 games-
You cant just let it rip up there if you throw 99……. putting one in the rib shoulda been the play
Now Im totally cool for one in the rib, in fact I applaud it
Its clear WomanFred is doing his best to try and stomp this out Right Now…..I Do hope a couple more rib shots land though before the years out…just by smugness Id think there are gonna come at Bregman and Correa….Altuve seems well liked still and Springer seems to stay quite
Now the mocking was awesome by Kelley!!
Best we can do is get the sweep today and mock them on the way outta town….
Shame theres social distancing right now, Im not a fan of violence but I think the Dodgers as a team really coulda used last night as a healing/bonding expierence of getting into a brawl last night…its how baseball has run itself for over a century and honestly ADDS to the game imo showing fans this just isnt all about the money
I support Kelleys intentions of hitting him but cmon ya gotta bring it down man
Since teams cant act and I guess talk about the Astros 2017 Now id become creative if I were the players by not acknowleding them before the game…Maybe walk back to your dugout when their starting lineup is being called out??? Scorn is probably the highest insult in todays society and as long as you keep what they did in the light they cant escape it……. hope other teams join into such actions this year (and years to follow) #Never Forget
This is why the MLBTR thread needs a character limit.
manos y manos censorship brah? It is about baseball. We aren’t starting a club.
hehe
Now that I think about it, the gif of Joe Kelly taunting while walking off the field is funny and I will be using that in the future.
Kelly and Bauer need to make a podcast together.
We all know Kelly didn’t intentionally throw at his head. Just ask the front window of his home.
Pathetic. I’m no Joe Kelly fan but Manfred is a clown that should be fired for his complete incompetence regarding the Astros cheating. Let the cheaters off scot-free and penalize the only guys with the balls to mete out justice themselves. Their lack of any admittance of guilt or remorse means they deserve every beanball that’s coming to them.
Yeah.
MLB pitchers were warned not to throw at the Astros* this spring.
Golly. That’s just like when I was in driver’s ed and was told to never exceed the speed limit.
Apparently, my Triumph Speed Triple has *two more gears* than I’ve ever used. Why would those even be there?
I sure wouldn’t want to exceed 70 MPH. After all, I was told not to.
(blinkblink)
They are trying to stop stuff before it happens but do I agree to the Astros should be banned from the payoffs for 2-3 years yes!!! That should be their punishment for cheating not just some slap across the hand!
locotrouble. Life time suspensions. Never forget.
8 games? What an insult after these Astros cheated the Dodgers out of a title. The commissioner needs to be replaced.
Did he forget that he was on the other team that was accused of cheating and I’m a sox fan so don’t want to here it
case7187? Here what? Just suspend the Asos for life. They messed with the fabric
of America. Or do they represent American ideals?
Manfred seems like the mom that defends her ONE kid no matter what. This was clearly a line in the sand to every pitcher out there that would like to see Astros players take one in the ear.
Say what you want and have your opinion on Kelly being suspended and for how long, but Roberts getting suspended and now has served more punishment that ANY Astros player is a joke.
Kelly is always wild and obviously couldn’t locate anything. The fact that they’re suspending him for a significant part of a shortened season is asinine.
Not a dodger fan but why don’t players get suspended for cheating in a world series. MLB commissioner is a joke
Astros cheated their way to a World Series win, and were proven guilty nothing happens… ole Joe has a legit pitch get away from him or two, and mlb freaks out. Makes sense
What I wouldn’t give to see a good old fashioned brouhaha. Just a no holds barred, Yer Mama, kick dirt and spit and yell while you fight like children throw down!
Them were indeed the good olde days..
worth it
tostyrosty(?) The asos would need to fight every day. And some of us would still want them to get their asses kicked. Daily.
Where’s the yacker?
When you go back and watch the 2018 suspension, you realize what a bunch of whining babies the yankees are. They deserved to lose to the cheating Astros. What goes around comes around. Kelly is just doing baseball’s job because baseball doesn’t do it’s job any more. MLB, the yankees, the rump, all national embarrassments. Let’s go Dodgers!
MLB is so soft now
#freejoekelly
And no Astro player was disciplined for cheating and ruining the integrity of the game . . .
The guys pumping in the the crowd noise should stick in some crashcan noises when the Astros are up just for comedy effect.
And no Kelly was an idiot to throw so high, Aim at at guys thigh or ass. And MLB really should give out excessive bans if any fighting does break out in the current climate.
Agree or disagree with Kelly’s actions, more pitchers are going to do it. Especially in a season that doesn’t really mean a whole lot. I think the Astros players should definitely apply more protective gear at the plate.
Rob Manfred is a joke. The cheaters don’t get punished, yet Kelly does? Bonds, McGwire and Sosa should then be allowed in the Hall Of Fame since Manfred encourages cheating.