A clause in Xander Bogaerts’ six-year, $120MM contract extension with the Red Sox will allow the shortstop to gain full no-trade protection once he reaches seven full years of service time. With the 2020 season’s prorated service time calendar in mind, The Athletic’s Ken Rosenthal recently observed that Bogaerts will hit that seven-year threshold on September 6, leaving Rosenthal wondering whether the Sox could accelerate their rebuild by offering Bogaerts prior to the August 31 trade deadline.
Chief baseball officer Chaim Bloom didn’t completely dismiss the concept of a Bogaerts trade during a recent appearance on WEEI’s Greg Hill Show (hat tip to WEEI.com’s Rob Bradford), though that was because, as Bloom noted, “philosophically, I would never want to come out and just unequivocally say somebody is untouchable.” Even if Bogaerts isn’t officially “untouchable,” Bloom stressed that “Xander is a core player for us….I don’t think we’re doing our job if we’re not listening, but it doesn’t mean that it’s something we’re trying to do by any stretch.”
In regards to Bogaerts’ impending acquisition of no-trade rights, Bloom said “I don’t think something like that would change our approach here….I know that news has been out there but it’s not something that is at front of mind for us in terms of how we’re approaching the deadline.”
More from Fenway Park…
- Matt Barnes could be a much likelier trade candidate for the Sox, as the Boston Globe’s Alex Speier reports that Barnes was a popular target for rival teams both at last year’s deadline and in the offseason. The Red Sox weren’t ready to move Barnes in July 2019 but could be more open to the concept now; Boston has already dealt two relievers and seem to be going into at least a mini-rebuild or reload in advance of the 2021 campaign. Barnes might now get some save chances with Brandon Workman gone, both because Barnes is the logical next man up as closer and perhaps due to the team’s desire to showcase Barnes prior to the deadline.
- After the Brewers designated Brock Holt for assignment earlier today, speculation immediately arose among Boston fans that the longtime fan favorite could be a fit to return to the Sox roster. Speier threw some cold water on that speculation, however, noting that adding a veteran like Holt would run counter to the the team’s desire to get a look at younger players who could be longer-term pieces.
Can he play second?
Who??
Bogarts
Bogaerts is a shortstop, although he did in fact play third a bit in his rookie season.
Play him again , Sam.
No, he only plays first.
He’s strictly a shortstop. I think they tried him at 3rd and that backfired.
If you’re talking about XB Gary, Bogaerts did fine at third as a rookie when Middlebrooks slumped in 13 but he’s always been a shortstop.
Yes, his offensive production went way down at third base. I know that sounds foolish but he wasn’t happy there.
Probably. He might move there eventually speaking that he’s not that great of a defender at SS.
He’s so underrated at SS mostly because of late because Devers is at third and a rotating bunch at second. Anyone who watches him play will state he does just fine although he’ll never be Ozzie Smith. How many Ozzie’s are there?
I mean, he’s last in DRS, 4th to last in range runs, and overall slightly below average in UZR. He’s below average, and I wouldn’t be surprised that he would make the transition in a few years.
And this is why stats aren’t everything
He can make as many flashy defensive plays as he wants. That doesn’t change the fat he’s a slightly below average defender at shortstop
Agreed on both. His bat plays at either position but their defense would improve and he would look better on paper if the team had gold glove caliber players at 2B and 3B. Reminds me of Jeter during his last year’s in reverse. He looked better because he was able to cheat with Tex, Cano and A-Rod playing across the diamond.
BS to that Mike. He’s got no one surrounding him.
F the defensive stats. Watch the kid play…hes more than a solid defensive ss…im sure every GM would love his Glove bat and leadership attitude…lol, hell be at ss for a long time…wow…
He’s a solid defender but he’s definitely not more than solid. I don’t think anyone would consider him an above average defender. He makes all the plays right at him and he’ll come up with a great play here and there but his range is clearly below average. I honestly feel like every time I watch him play there’s a ball I think he should have at least kept in the infield that he doesn’t even get a glove on or a ball that I think should be a DP that he only gets 1 out on. With his bat it more than covers his not awful fielding but calling him anything more than average to slightly below average defender is delusional
As a RS fan, I think that’s about right. He’s solid and makes all the routine plays.
Lol you are incredibly delusional.
Again, who has he had surrounding him since Pedie got hurt? Mainly an out of shape Panda and a fielding disaster in Devers along with a rotational mix of average at best at second,
My argument isn’t that he’s a statue out there. My argument is that he fields his position, but that’s about it.
How would Bogaerts compare to Jose Reyes in his prime defensively?
Bogaerts is a solid fielder at shortstop. Plays the position. Does the work. Reliable. Consistent. He’d probably be a golden glover is put on 3B or 2B but why upset what’s working?
One of Bogaerts and Devers will end up at first base and the other will play third.
If I’m the reds I’m all over Bogaerts give a deal like mahle Garcia and India
I don’t think the Sox would trade Bogaerts for any prospects that aren’t entirely proven. It’d have to be a pretty solid return for Xander to leave Boston.
I agree 100 %, Bogaerts is not going anywhere
No way is he going anywhere. He might actually become the team’s next captain.
they should give a duel C to bogaerts and Vazquez. Both are signed long term and are what is right in baseball and in the organization in particular
Vasquez is only signed for I think two more years and might command a nice return if put on the block.
Xman is going to cost a young MLB proven asset that has 5 more years control, plus at least a prospect in the MLB top 50, and probably 2 more unranked.
You might substitute a pair of MLB top-20s for the proven ability rookie, or something along those lines. What you won’t see is a fire sale on him, even with bloom
At those prices I don’t see him being traded.
The Sox didn’t hire Bloom for him to fully emulate what he did in Tampa. They will spend once the tax is reset although they will not spend on impulse and the spending might wait for the pandemic to subside and/or for the rebuilding to show dividends.
Just remember Tampa and Oakland type models get you beyond expectations and can get a team into the post season but that type of system has not won which is why CB will be working under a hybrid system.
The Sox will understandably ask for a lot on a bogarts deal but that opt out in his contract may lessen the return slightly.
And if im the Red Sox im blocking the Reds phone number with that offer
The Red Sox need starting pitching. They would want Lodolo and Greene in the package.
For the reds the deal would likely involve senzel Tyler Stephenson and lodolo
Basically if it doesn’t hurt you aren’t getting a talent like bogaerts
ROFL@schellis. I use a similar statement to make the point you did so well. If the trade doesn’t hurt your feelings a little, the package isn’t good enough.
Reds have terrible leadership. Last team you want them trading with when it comes to valuable prospects is Boston. Boston will end up w lodolo TySteve senzel and mahle; reds still wont break 500; and bogaerts is gone after 2022.
Reds ever want to win- they have to hire a proven winner. That’s too much pride though for their ownership to swallow though. So they’ll hire losers like David Bell who comes from their own family tree of losers. A hopeless organization regardless of talent they groom or buy via free agency.
rdsfan05, that’s not nearly enough to get Bogaerts. If Bloom took that return he should be fired on the spot. Aside from this shortened season Mahle has been an average to below average pitcher, and as much as I like India he is right now at best a B+ prospect. Minimum you’d need to get Green back or Lodolo
Lodolo probably would be in the trade all four mentioned besides hunter Greene are Mlb ready and I assume that’s what the red Sox’s are looking for if they do go with a trade
Red sox are taking the long term perspective not looking for short term fixes by taking less talent back in the form of 3/4 starters and mid tier prospects for an all star short stop.
What they forgot to mention is that bogarts has an opt out after the 2022 season which he could use as leverage to get a larger contract as they won’t be able to trade him and he could leave for nothing but a compensation pick. I doubt they trade him, but if he continues to play well the contract certainly works in his favor.
God for Xman he deserves it!
Team might be talking now about giving up that opt out for a new extension. A lot of shortstops will have reset the market by then but he’ll also be two years older and showed when he signed this new deal that every last dollar was not a consideration. As long as the team has a long term plan, he seems to love Boston and wants to stay.
I never fault players for getting every last penny, especially when playing for a large market team in a sport with no cap. It is certainly a good co tract for him as it gives him a lot of leverage between a no trade clause and an opt out. He’s also on a pretty friendly contract given his level of play, so I’m sure he gave up some money to get that leverage which he can use, much like Sabathia did with the Yankees, to get a few more years tacked on. I too could see the Sox reworking that deal to get rid of the opt out either by adding years or money to the current deal as they should be looking to build around a player like him.
Agreed xSpecBx except there is a cap although voluntary. The Sox thus season haven chosen to stay under the tax threshold so it resets, they pay nothing next year and don’t get penalized on draft position. How many clubs have to date paid that top threshold penalty? Not one that I recall outside of Boston.
Yeah that opt out kills any substantial package of what Red Sox would want to make a deal work.
Also the redockulous value of prospects right now hampers this deal.
Just trade Barnes and all the other expiring contract explore JD and Nate too.
Trade em all and Bloom and Henry too
Stop with the Bloom and ownership obsession
Yeah because they are doing such a great job right?? Even these 2 pitching prospects project as back of the rotation SP AT BEST. Pretty much all you could expect for the guys we dealt I understand. Our chances to get high end young pitching talent came with Mookie trade and the 1st rd pick and Bloom blew both those. Henry wants him to build this team like TB and what have they ever won?
Yeah because they are doing such a great job right??
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You’re right. Only 4 WSCs in the past 16 years. The horrors!
That part is true but now less than 2 years later they are one of the WORST teams in MLB and with one the weakest farm systems as well.
It’s how sports work. When you’re good you get lower draft positions which impacts your ability to get higher end prospects. They graduated a lot of players and traded players for established players in order to win a championship and it killed their farm system. Now they need to draft well and trade players with value to rebuild the farm. I’m a Yankees fan and this is how they did it.
Relax Randy. Red Sox could be back in contention next year with money coming off the books and Sale returning sometime next year. plus E-Rod. Grab that solid draft position for 2021, draft a stud and you have more weaponry in a couple years. If Bloom plays his cards right the Red Sox could be a force yet again in 2021-22.
I see it taking longer than that. Right now I am hoping the Sox lose every game just to get that high draft pick but is there any guarantee they won’t just draft another guy rated much lower like they did in this yr’s draft?? I have hard there are 2 STUD pitching prospects ranked 1-2. A couple days ago they were slated to draft #2 but now with recent wins we have moved several spots down in the draft.
That’s the issue with going for it. You cannot simultaneously hold the position that the RS should win a lot of WS AND not think that we are not going to pay a price for that.
We won in 2018, but trade Moncada, Kopech, Margot, etc., to get the players we needed to win. And we spent a lot of money on guys like Price, Eovaldi, etc.
You can either choose what’s behind Curtain 1 or Curtain 2, but not both.
I understand re-setting the cap etc but I don’t see any moves by Bloom saving POSSIBLY the recent trade that is going to help turn the ship around. I have said for at least FIVE years that they need to develop some TOP young SP and they have failed to do so. They can not keep going out and spending on FA SP since that is what got them into this mess as it is. IMO they have had 2 shots at adding young top pitching talent and Bloom K’d on both. Our farm system is still one of the lowest ranked in the majors and this is also a weakish FA crop up-coming.
Depends on the money situation Randy. I don’t look at one pick. They lost one pick and had a plan. By going undervalue first, they were able to draft a kid no one saw not going to college. They did just fine this year in my view.
That is what they are saying but if the guy they got in the 3rd round is this good how did he last that long in the draft?? I am about pitching and the Sox have the worst SP in MLB right now. They are trying to sell us on Mata and Houk just like they did with Owens and the like. I am hoping that somehow Groome develops into something and that Mata pans out. Maybe this Song kid can turn into something too but Bloom needs to keep adding SP talent.
He was slated to go to college and for typical third round money, would not have signed.
IMO, it’s like FB, and you always go for the best player available. Like you said, our farm currently sucks. I like pitching too, but we didn’t have anyone coming up to play RF or 2nd for us, and now we have Verdugo & Downs.
so why did we waste our 1st rd pick on a 2B ranked approx #100 if we have Downs for 2B?
So the Sox KNEW that he would be available in the 3rd rd when they made their 1st rd pick?? Man that Mr Bloom really MUST be a genius !!
Regardless of the Sox plans to go younger, they still need warm bodies. Enter Holt.
Forget Holt . Bringing him back would be a step backwards and Henry wants to keep cutting payroll anyway and Holt makes too much $$ for them. BH was GREAT when he was here but times change. No room for in Boston now.
They don’t need a 32 year-old backup second baseman. They’ve got plenty of guys that they should play first ahead of any new incoming guy.
Forget Holt already
The opt out clause puts a damper on Red Sox return. They will rebuild around Bogarts instead of trading him.
I hope to god they do NOT trade Xman!!!!! He n Raffy are a team in many ways, rebuild around them!!!!
I love JDM as I’ve been expressing on this site but I can’t take much more of Devers at third and can see him as the DH if JDM leaves. Long term he’s not the answer at third.
Yeah… but I’d like to see them try him at first some during this lost season before deciding he’s a DH only player. It’s really the throws that drive me nuts.
Imagine if Moreland wasn’t there half the time. Moreland has in many ways been another Holt meaning when he was signed, how many of us realized how good he was? His defense and his clutch hitting.
Dalbec is a better 3B than Devers, so bring up Dalbec and move Devers to 1st when Moreland gets traded.
Forget Holt . Bringing him back would be a step backwards and Henry wants to keep cutting payroll anyway and Holt makes too much $$ for them. BH was GREAT when he was here but times change. No room for in Boston now.
And now Brockstar…….they need to bring him back n replace those inept players at 2nd. Any good rebuilding team needs some vets along with new, like Verdogo, who I really enjoy. Bring the Brockstar hone!!!
Verdugo has been nothing like he was described as in LA and his play would have fit in with the Sox in 18. If he can stay on the field, he alone makes up for Mookie given the control issue of both players. He reminds me of a lefty poor man’s Mookie with a little Trot Nixon. I expect his defense in Fenway to only improve the more he plays there. Finally as to Mookie, he was a rare breed in the field,coming up at 2B and to get on the MLB roster, he mastered two tough outfield positions to be gold glove caliber. I haven’t acknowledged him on this platform since the trade so hat’s off Mookie and good luck in LA. Would love to have a WS 18 rematch in 22.
Verdugo is like Clint Frazier in a way. seemingly not pleased he didnt get the playing time while watching the team add guys like Pollack. hit like crazy in the Minors and was kept down or in a reserve role. fans may not like those guys but end up begging for them back when they inevitably blossom somewhere else.
Darkside, while Frazier seems to have improved, Verdugo seems like the much better fielder and with more power. Good comp though with respect to the immaturity both showed in the past.
It is a no-brainer to bring Holt back to play 2nd.
It will only cost them a prorated amount of the league minimum. But, because of that he will have multiple teams calling his agent.
Holt is a fan favorite in Boston however I personally don’t think it’s logical for the Sox to bring him back as it goes against what Bloom and ownership are trying to do; which is to spend less for now and get younger. Peraza isn’t horrible as people say he is in my opinion and Chavez can also perform at times.
*Chavis
Chavis should be traded in my view because his value will only start yo decrease once everyone realizes he is what he is, a Brian Didier who can’t play second.
*Dozier
I agree with trading Chavis now with Dalbec and Casas behind him anyway plus the scrub we drafted with our 1st rd pick this year.
Scrub? What do you know that CB and most of us fans don’t?
No way on Holt… just stop the silliness please.
What’s the chance of Boston taking on some of Eovaldi’s contract in order to get better prospects??
Unfortunately for the Sox if they trade Eovaldi it will just be for salary reduction purposes. He currently has an ERA just barely under 5.00, he is always injured and he is making $17 million per year for the next 2 years. Nobody will be giving up good prospects for him.
Javia- agree on Eovaldi. The Red Sox would be better off keeping him and get what they get in production when he is not injured.
They should keep Martin Perez too.
Martin Perez pitched well last night. Too bad he didn’t get the win and the Red Sox held on. Pretty decent era now for Martin and perhaps teams will come calling? Imagine getting two nice prospects? Maybe a good double a pitcher and one more single a high-ceiling guy.
SLIM and NIL
I mean if Xander really is available Seattle should throw justiss Sheffield jp Crawford and dan altivilla at them for him doubt they’d ever take it but still worth a try Seattle is no where near a piece or two to compete but you need stars to bring in stars unless your Groom them yourself
None of those players are very desirable. I suggested Seattle offer Noelvi Marte, George Kirby, and Brandon Williamson a few days ago. It would take more significant prospects to pull off, not guys who have struggled to establish themselves.
@seattlesuperfan and xcfan
If you will look near the top of this comment section you will see a comment by AtlSoxFan where he lays out what he thinks it will cost for Xander. He say 2-mlb top 20 prospects, 1-mlb top 50 prospect and 2 more unranked prospects. It just so happens that Seattle is one of only 2 teams with 2-top 20 prospects who can be traded.
So to satisfy AtlSoxFan’s demands it would cost Seattle:
Jarred Kelenic (your first top 20 prospect)
Julio Rodriguez (your second top 20 prospect)
Logan Gilbert (your only tradeable top 50 prospect left)
and 2 more unranked prospects. So, what do you say? Are you willing to pay that price?
It won’t take that to get him. That’s a Sox fans dream, not reality. No team gives that. Kelenic is more valuable by himself. But definitely would take at least 3 guys who would slot atop Boston’s org. rankings and pitching would likely be what Boston desires most.
No way on Holt… just stop the silliness please.
Stop, a non top 10 prospect is def not as valuable as a young shortstop who was just in the top 5 mvp voting this past season, that’s just silly.
Justin Sheffield is terribly overrated. Has done little in Seattle.
It amazes me that everyone this board wants to trade everyone! People unless he gets top talent back which he DID NOT in the trade of Workman and Hembre who is going to play for this team next year? People want to trade Vazquez and again who is going to catch next year? He should have waited to trade Hembre and Workman closer to August 31 when teams are more desperate and give up better talent than the garbage Bloom picked up in the trade.
Workman and Hembree were not going to get us more.
Still wait until teams are more desperate closer to trading deadline then they panic and give up better talent
Philly was desperate NOW !! Why wait?
And if the Phillies went elsewhere, they could have gotten less. This is not a seller’s market in my view.
Because they would be more desperate around August 31st and give up better talent than what we got!
Workman had a great year last, but has never been that good and is under team control for a month. Hembree has a good start to this year, but has never been able to get lefties out. I do not think Bloom could have gotten two starters much better than he got, and with a few more bad outings grow those two may have gotten a lot less.
I agree but I doubt the 2 we got will turn into much. The key for Bloom was moving Workman because we weren’t going to pay him after this yr.
Bloom did a great job with the Workman Hembree trade. Received one starting pitcher which of course is always regarded higher than a reliever.., who can start the rest of this year. His era might be 5.5+ but there’s only a few more weeks to go. Then the second guy the Sox got could be something. Very good trade. Why wait when those two guys were available now?
Bloom struck the deal when the iron was hot. Although I don’t have much expectations for Nick Pivetta, I do see some potential in Conor Seabold. Plus, there isn’t a guarantee that teams would offer that much on the day of the deadline as it could have been a much worse return.
Holt could be brought back with Milwaukee paying most of his salary. Bloom is going to gut this team and turn it into a second rate cheap payroll team
Shut up already just because the rumor is around doesn’t mean he’s trading Xander. You can just cheer for another team if you want.
Nothing personal, but statements like that make you sound like a complete idiot.
He is well on his to doing just that on John Henry’s orders.
Al34@ Going to ?? You’ve had your eyes closed since December?
No I haven’t ! I felt they should have signed Betts and not traded him. They even had an out to cancel the deal but still made it. It is going to comeback and haunt us. He was home grown talent and shouldn’t have been traded.
No he’s not. Is ownership selling the team and NESN? Stars are needed to sell amongst the most expensive seats on average in baseball and for NESN advertisers.
The Sox unfortunately do not have a ton of talent in their minor league system. So how do they rebuild? Free agents? Pitching is what the Sox currently need and it is incredibly expensive in free agency! You also run the risk of having it turn out like Eovaldi. So you basically have to trade talent to get minor league talent and wait and hope they turn out. Meanwhile you field a bad team. It’s called rebuilding and every team does it.
Javia- perfectly stated. Why most other Red Sox fans do not understand the rebuild process is a mystery…..
Why most other Red Sox fans do not understand the rebuild process is a mystery…..
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I’m a RS fanatic living in NY. I find most Yankee fans far more knowledgeable than RS fans. There are maybe 25% of the RS fans that will judge a player on what happened in yesterday’s game. I assume he’s a troll, but AL34 thinks we are going to become a small payroll team.
Joe, most Yankee fans far more knowledgeable? I guess you don’t read daily this site or listen to FAN or EPN. Northeast fans typically are more passionate than other areas and for the prices paid, expect to be in the running to win every year. No significant difference. Many just choose not to open themselves up to the web or media.
I personally don’t think the Red Sox need an entire rebuild. I think a reload or a retool suits them better. We already have Devers, Bogaerts, Benintendi, and Verdugo to build off of.
Who cares where Xander plays on the diamond, is it even relevant? At this point he could be playing goalie…. Henry is a garbage owner and Bloom is just the penny pincher for the job. Gonna be 2 years of mediocre play then they will fully commit to re-build, 2 more years of trash and then maybe they’ll be relevant again.
You forgot when we tried him at third? His Bat went South because he was not comfortable. He’s a shortstop until he gets a little older and his range declines. Then he’ll mentally accept a change of position.
Henry is a garbage owner
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You’re likely a loser Yankee fan, jealous of the fact that the Red Sox have dominated baseball since Henry bought the team.
Your misery lifts the hearts of all Red Sox fans.
Joe – agree 100 percent! Name another living owner who has 4 World Series wins……. Henry has been a great owner !!
The GMs have made some mistakes (Carl Crawford, Pablo Sandoval, Hanley Ramirez, Rusney Castillo,…), but Henry has spent enough to win titles…
Anyone who disagrees do not have the facts….
Would be typical of Boston to trade the guy who wants to stay (XB) as a means of balancing the books. Boston created this mess and they deserve no credit for being supposedly proactive. Enough with Brock Holt, too, the guy is entirely below average.
When anyone uses the word “typical” to describe a single entity, it shows their bias and apathy toward that person or group. Not sure why you comment on the Red Sox so much when all you do is Bash them (that’s “typically” due to jealousy lol.) And you bash them because you don’t understand what’s going on.
Let me try to explain it. Listen carefully or read slowly in this case.
The Red Sox won the World Series in 2018. They tried running it back with the same dudes in 2019 but that didn’t work out. It’s now 2020 and the Red Sox have been major taxpayers for a few years in a row. That text penalty is huge when the years start adding up consecutively. Any smart baseball man, or business owner for that matter, will look at the rules and adjust accordingly.
So you have a guy who’s a superstar but says he wants 400 million for 10 or 15 years. That doesn’t work out very often so let’s trade him away and rebuild this year and get under that tax. That’s the 2020 Boston Red Sox.
Are you understanding any of this? By the way who is your team and what is your team doing? Just curious.
Gary … a remarkably arrogant response. You think too little of others or too much of yourself – likely both. Spare me the passive aggressive olive branch, let’s move on.
Just being myself bro. I don’t give a rip what you think. And besides, move on from what? Can’t remember what you’re even talking about.
Just trying to explain to you what’s going on with my Red Sox. Then asking you about 30 ballparks. As I said just being myself. Sorry it’s so offensive to you to ask questions and defend my team.
LOL is that another way of saying you still don’t get what the Red Sox are trying to accomplish this year ? I can try to explain it again in terms you may understand. Let’s not use baseball terms this time, let’s use something else.., how about sticks and pebbles from the front yard ?
Okay here we go. If I have 10 sticks and you have eight sticks, Dad says it’s not fair because I have two more than you do. Then he comes back outside an hour later and says, why does Gary have 15 sticks and 30farts has only five sticks? Gary you need to give some sticks back because you’re mean.
In fact I’m going to take five of your sticks and distribute them amongst your little brother and your two sisters. And later, when you try trading your rocks and pebbles to 30farts for his jelly beans, I’m going to come out here and take away all your jelly beans and give them to your little brother and his friends. Got it?
That’s what’s going on with the Red Sox and Major League Baseball and the luxury tax. Get it?
May I please also ask about your username? Have you been to all 30 parks? That would actually be a dream of mine. I’m a road trip Junkie and visiting all the parks would be pretty awesome. Thank you.
Bloom gave the right answer because you never know if a team will totally overwhelm you with an offer.
I can’t envision the BoSox trading X or Devers, and from their perspective I don’t know why they would. I think all Bloom is saying here is he’d listen if someone offered in the event they offered something ridiculous.
I mean not saying they would, but say the LAD really wanted X and they offered May, Lux, White and Uceta or something? If you got that type of offer, yeah, then maybe. The LAD aren’t even a fit. They’re just the only team I could think of with such a deep farm that Boston might start to ask are we better moving him and filling 3 or 4 needs, because I believe that’s what it’d take.
Yes for exactly those reasons the Red Sox don’t seem to be interested in trading Xander Bogaerts. Nobody’s going to blow them away with an offer like that. For neither Bogart’s nor Rafael Devers. We’ll be holding on to those two for a little while. There’s lots of other guys that should be in can be traded first.
Bringing Holt back makes a lot of sense, regardless of claims it goes against what Boston is trying to do. He can be paid the league minimum, would be a solid mentor to the young guys, and is a backup at seven positions. I don’t get the dismissive logic based on his age and average ability.
100% THIS!!!!
No way
The best Mentor for young guys is playing time. Holt on the roster takes that away from someone.
Because he plays virtually every position, Holt playing takes one day away from one guy, once a week – like a scheduled off day. The young guys still get playing time and they get a guy who could one day be a coach.
Reds should build a package around Senzel and go get him.
Bloom is destroying that team.
Two trades, two pluses.
Bogaerts should be attractive to a number of clubs. But with Semien and Gregorius hitting free agency this coming offseason, then Story, Seager, Baez, Correa, and Lindor following the 2021 season, a lot of clubs might prefer to buy a SS without sacrificing prospects and/or useful players.
BRING BACK BROCK!!!!!!
WHY DO THAT ??????
We have seven other guys that can play second base?
I like Brock, but his time is over. He’s 32 and we are looking to get younger. I’d prefer to keep Aruaz. He’s got a nice swing and can play all over the infield. And he is young enough that we can expect some development.
Class action discrimination suit coming. 32 is old.
I would hate to see the Sox trade the integrity Xander brings to the Sox. Trading him to the Dodgers for a bunch of nice players wouldbe great for Mookie and the LA community but would be a disaster for the Sox and New England.
You get a half dozen good prospects ‘like Verdugo. I say do a better job of drafting Mr. Bloom.
X, Vaz, Devers, Verdugo, Pillar (extend him). Audition , Darwinzon, Taylor- these 2 as future closer.
Trade/release any of the others on the 30 man roster.
Now rebuild!!!!!
You really can’t blame Chaim Bloom for not being able to pick a superb prospect in this years draft as the Sox only got the 17th overall pick in the first round, with there not being a second round pick for us. I don’t think anyone remembers the last time we had a top 5 draft pick in the draft so I guess tanking for a top spot wouldn’t be as horrible, although I don’t know how the draft will work.
There’s no way management trades both Betts and Xander in one season, they’ve already alienated the fan base enough as it is.